I believe he is the world leader right now and I trust him with government and statesmanship. He is not our Savior, God’s Son, who died on the cross to pay our sin debt.
It won't work without a Trump endorsement. The system, whether purposefully set up that way or not, is 'winner-take-all'. This is why no 3rd party has ever gained any steam in the US. We don't form coalition governments like the Euros; we're not set up that way. One or the other party would have to crash and the American party take its place - like the fall of the Whig party.
Perot had the best shot - I loved that guy - and he was right - there was a giant sucking sound of jobs out of the US - but after some weirdness, he didn't get any states. He got some counties, but that doesn't cut it. And did Perot end Bush and make Clinton by splitting the conservative vote?
This will probably split the Republican party and make it a non-player, so I'm cautious about any enthusiasm for it. We cannot afford to let the communists win by having their opposition split.
I thought Perot had the right idea. I used to wonder if he was put up to split the Rs as you suggest. There's also the possibility he had a real shot at winning, and as an outsider the DS couldn't allow that and Perot was blackmailed into capitulation. Arkancide was quite popular at the time.
This is SO well stated, and perfectly reflects my feelings, HB77...and TY for laying that out. Also like you, I was a tremendous Perot supporter and yes, "threw away my vote" by voting for the man. I was really taken with him, and I think he could've been a Trump-like reformer...though likely not on the scale of what we have now with Trump. ;)
How do you really single out “certain people” in a plan? Start something big and new, and see who rushes to join or fund first to “spotlight” sing its praises, and then who move to “spotlight” attack it first.
Really? What are you basing that on? I’m basing my answer on the Constitution. The requirement that the President must be a natural-born citizen is found in Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of the U.S. Constitution, which states:"No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States."
We already have other parties. Trump was a Democrat, considered a run for POTUS as a Reform Party candidate in 2000, and finally joined the Republican Party.
Then there's the Green Party, the Constitution Party, the Libertarian Party, and for a huge chunk of Congress, the Communist Party.
Also, I don't want to live in a Democracy either. Musk should know that's mob rule, the same as the uni-party.
When you think about it, MAGA no longer works as POTUS is already making it great again with the Golden Age. So what do you call a single party that takes over the Cabal Uniparty. The America Party sounds like something POTUS would create and hopefully do away with the two party system that has failed the American people. I wonder if this is a set up or is Elon really trying to undermine our POTUS? I personally believe it will be a good thing to get rid of Republicans and Democrats and start a new Government run by and for the People, you and me. Who does that sound like? Elon or our GOAT POTUS? or Both? Food for thought.
Sorry fren, not mocking you. I’ve been told that by people in both parties as an [not democrat, but occasionally supportive of them in the past before they went openly insane]. I’m mocking those people.
Nice idea but that never works because we all know that power corrupts people. It may start off with decent people with decent intentions but it won't be long before corruption infiltrates the politicians of the new party.
How about this: Trump is awarded a third term by some kind of legal compensation for the 2020 steal, Trump moves under a new party banner, mass resignations as a result of unsealing (and other reasons) lots of seats are up everywhere, MAGA types appointed or elected to all vacant seats. A kind of instant democratic regime change event. New party, third term, reckoning for monumental crimes, total regime change, new systems everywhere but everything just works as you expect.
Very unlikely. Trump will be 81 or 82 at the end of this current term. He won't live forever but he has 3 sons of only one is needed to continue the family business. Don't be surprised if Eric runs for the next term. Don Jr doesn't said to be interested in politics and Barron is still too young.
If there's any sign of life in the Brunson case, clean all the trash out and put new people in the existing 2 parties, everywhere. A 3 party system would just make the 'new' party the odd man out. If a 3rd party pulls the cream from the other 2 parties, the other 2 parties would just refill their seats with people who (if possible) are even more radical than what's in there now. Not going to do anything except stir up the dregs on the bottom.
WE already have The third party. Trump Made MAGA the third party by Taking the Rep. party from clinton and obama had already destroyed the Dem. party and made it liberal/communism. SO, the Centrist 80% is Now MAGA and that includes 40 million working Democrats. Keep in mind that 'democracy' means NY City, DC. and Cal. OWN and Rule over The Republic, which IS MAGA.
Also keep in mind that the Republican Party started out as the abolitionist (anti-slavery) party. It would be an offense to history if MAGA abandoned this heritage, since it applies so completely to modern times.
In my observation, "democracy" means "rule by Democrats." Every single time a Democrat uses the term, this fully explains their meaning.
I beg to differ. The tax and regulatory burden on the main citizenry qualifies as a kind of slavery, so far as I am concerned. But I don't disagree about Welfare's downside.
And we should all want a world where we can ban guns. Problem is that world does not exist. But post great awakening? Post precipice? Absolutely possible once the plan is complete and cabal is dead.
I seriously doubt he would - even if he could. The only way I could see it is if he ran to win and step down, giving the presidency to JD (or whoever makes it to 2029).
If Trump successfully works the plan to perfection and makes America (and thus everywhere else) great again he deserves a nice retirement. He will be pushing 83 in 2029.
While I absolutely hate our uniparty. I have mixed feelings about this. I feel it has a high probability of taking votes from the Republican party which will help the Democrat party. Even though it's a Uniparty, we saw the puppets on the left hand cause more damage than the puppets on the right hand. Again very mixed feelings about this.
Q post 2635
The [D] party will cease to exist once it's all exposed.
FAKE NEWS can no longer control [dampen] public awareness of the TRUTH.
DARK TO LIGHT.
Q
Elon's move makes sense to me regarding US transformation... if Democrats are gone as a party, there should be a replacement. Setting the stage... and would not have been possible without this fake fight and the work he did for DOGE.
Extremely bad idea, demonstrated over the past several generations. The LIbertarian Party started out with that in mind, but ultimately became the captive of tinpot tyrant radical activists, and degenerated into a small puddle full of internecine power struggles. Ross Perot helped to split the conservative vote and enabled Bill Clinton to become President.
Right now, MAGA has preeminence in the GOP and the objective should be to coax (or force) out the RINO component. Let them form a third party and split the globalist vote. If we can't do that when we have the upper hand, we have no hope of establishing a third party anyway.
It never fails in politics. The amateurs don't want to finish the job ("Kill the RINOs!") because it would be hard work, so they think they can avoid the problem by starting all over again new. Rather than fix the roof on their house, they would prefer to tear it down and start all over fresh?
At this point, the president is the only human being I trust. I would walk behind him through hell and give up my life if he ordered it because I know in the core of my being that he is leading us through to something better.
Hey guys... the two party rope a dope has come under scrutiny...So... We're going to just come up with a new & improved 2 party system and keep the psyop going!!!
Same shitty service...Now under new management!!!
Yeah screw that... means nothing... I'm still not eating there...
He's right of course about bankrupting the country with waste and graft but creating a third party will just be doing the democrats a huge favor. Elon is mad because he didn't get his way.
Oklahoma Election Law defines recognized political parties and establishes the rules for their formation and maintenance of status.
Current Recognized Parties:
As of May 2024, Oklahoma officially recognizes the Democratic, Libertarian, and Republican parties.
Recognized parties include those with candidates on the 1974 General Election ballot or new parties formed via a legal procedure involving signature collection. To maintain recognition, a party's statewide candidate must receive at least 2.5% of the total votes in one of the two preceding general elections. Failure to meet this results in the party becoming a "political organization".
Registered voters of a recognized party typically vote only in that party's primary, while independent voters can participate only if a recognized party allows them, as the Democratic Party has done for 2024 and 2025 primaries. Voters registered with a political organization cannot vote in party primaries, but all voters may participate in non-partisan elections.
Important details include that candidates' names do not show party affiliations on ballots, and party affiliation changes are restricted from April 1 to August 31 in even-numbered years. More information is available on the Oklahoma.gov website.
A group of persons may form a recognized political party at any
time except during the period between March 1 and November 15 of any
even-numbered year if the following procedure is observed:
Notice of intent to form a recognized political party must be
filed in writing with the Secretary of the State Election Board at
any time except during the period between March 1 and November 15 of
any even-numbered year;
After such notice is filed, petitions seeking recognition of
a political party, in a form to be prescribed by the Secretary of the
State Election Board, shall be filed with such Secretary, bearing the
signatures of registered voters equal to at least three percent (3%)
of the total votes cast in the last General Election for Governor.
Each page of such petitions must contain the names of registered
voters from a single county. Petitions may be circulated a maximum
of one (1) year after notice is filed, provided that petitions shall
be filed with the Secretary no later than March 1 of an even-numbered
year. Such petitions shall not be circulated between March 1 and
November 15 of any even-numbered year; and
Within thirty (30) days after receipt of such petitions, the
State Election Board shall determine the sufficiency of such
petitions. If such Board determines there are a sufficient number of
valid signatures of registered voters, the party becomes recognized
under the laws of the State of Oklahoma with all rights and
obligations accruing thereto.
Added by Laws 1974, c. 153, § 1-108, operative Jan. 1, 1975. Amended
by Laws 1985, c. 269, § 1; Laws 2003, c. 485, § 1; Laws 2004, c. 53,
§ 6, emerg. eff. April 1, 2004; Laws 2011, c. 196, § 3, eff. Nov. 1,
2011; Laws 2015, c. 311, § 1, eff. Nov. 1, 2015.
Remember that since Trump v CASA, Trump is no long obliged to act within local, state, or federal laws and cannot be prevented from breaching those laws.
So if he declares the America Party to be a political party, then any law making it not be a political party cannot be enforced against him
The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. He shall hold his Office during the Term of four Years, and, together with the Vice President, chosen for the same Term, be elected, as follows
Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.
The Electors shall meet in their respective States, and vote by Ballot for two Persons, of whom one at least shall not be an Inhabitant of the same State with themselves. And they shall make a List of all the Persons voted for, and of the Number of Votes for each; which List they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the Seat of the Government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate. The President of the Senate shall, in the Presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the Certificates, and the Votes shall then be counted. The Person having the greatest Number of Votes shall be the President, if such Number be a Majority of the whole Number of Electors appointed; and if there be more than one who have such Majority, and have an equal Number of Votes, then the House of Representatives shall immediately chuse by Ballot one of them for President; and if no Person have a Majority, then from the five highest on the List the said House shall in like Manner chuse the President. But in chusing the President, the Votes shall be taken by States, the Representation from each State having one Vote; A quorum for this Purpose shall consist of a Member or Members from two thirds of the States, and a Majority of all the States shall be necessary to a Choice. In every Case, after the Choice of the President, the Person having the greatest Number of Votes of the Electors shall be the Vice President. But if there should remain two or more who have equal Votes, the Senate shall chuse from them by Ballot the Vice President.
The Congress may determine the Time of chusing the Electors, and the Day on which they shall give their Votes; which Day shall be the same throughout the United States.
No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
Article I, Section 4, Clause 1:
The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators.
Trump v. CASA, Inc., 606 U.S. ___, is a United States Supreme Court case addressing whether lower-court judges have the authority to issue "universal injunctions" to block the enforcement of policies nationwide.
This fake fall out is the perfect avenue to break out this concept. It's not Trump pushing it, it's Elon. We can't fix the Democrat or Republican parties. So let's start a new party! I am loving their 5D chess game!
Where have you been? Trump has virtually single-handedly corrected the Republican Party to be the MAGA movement. We are in de facto control. The only problem is the remaining RINO element that needs to be primaried by MAGA congressmen. For God's sake, do not concede a defeat that does not exist.
It shouldn't, but there will always be "parties," call them what you will. And the reason for that is because, on any issue, there will be a rational moral approach and any number of irrational or immoral approaches, and they will have their respective advocacies. It depends on whether your duly elected representative is a rational and moral person. And that depends on you and your fellow citizens. Which is why you cannot afford to be disinterested or uninvolved in the elections. I know: tough work. But you cannot benefit from what you do not invest in. This has been our problem for generations: sloth and complacency.
Given human nature, as you described above, how about dynamic political parties. Each party forms for ONE issue and lasts for one session of congress. No unelected persons may be part of said party.
We can place other restrictions on the party as needed, but the bottom line is that the current system puts unelected persons (party leadership) between me and my duly elected representative.
Single-issue parties are perpetually doomed to irrelevance. You see what happens in the European countries where parliaments comprise multiple parties, and they struggle for dominance. Sometimes, a Hitler results.
It is also contrary to the nature of opposition. The two sides generally represent two major themes of thought, because all the issues are related, e.g., constitutionalism vs. straight democracy.
There is no "system" that puts a party between you and your representative. You should always be able to contact or see your representative. The only problem is if they hold you at a distance, in which case that would have been the wrong man in office. Which comes back to grass-roots politics and how that man was elected at all.
So, who voted these guys into office? There are people who have integrity, or we wouldn't be having the successful Beautiful Big Bill. You have work to do in removing the trash and putting in the right people. It's the old adage: If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem.
You do realize that Elon is pissing off actual MAGA supporters don't? People have turned on him. He's also suspending and demonitizing many larger and small MAGA Trump supporter accounts on TwitterX as well.
The "poll" he took supporting this 3rd party is full of foreigners and bots.
I see no one has mentioned yet that Kim Clement mentioned that a new party would emerge. Looks like he may hit another bullseye with that prophecy. He didn't seem to think it was a negative thing.
By the look of things, this could be a successor to the Democrat Party, but it could well be an overtly Socialist Party. The most of the worst, home to weirdos both philosophical and psychological. The last "respectable" refuge of aberration.
Until there is a thorough sanitizing of the intellectual and mental health of a nation, this disaffected element will associate to have its say.
The creation of a legitimate third party is a positive step, but we can't afford to lose focus or vigilance. The enemy has the country in his grip because of his corruptive influence on mankind. There's a saying I picked up while in the military: "Locks just keep honest people honest." Dishonest people aren't deterred by morality or fairness. Honest, decent people fall victim because they see the good in others and give them the benefit of doubt. We have to keep checks and balances, to look for the sociopaths among us, to preserve our peace and safety.
I'm all for a 4th party (there already is 3, independant) but it would need a better name because "America" includes all of the countries in the American hemisphere. Canada to Peru, are technically Americas. Only people of the USA are so selfish to think only they are AMERICAN. Another reason why the The Gulf of America works but even that should have been The Gulf of the Americas.
You are behind the times. The GOP has morphed into MAGA. We still have an encrustation of RINOs to shed. Please stop giving them the prominence they only had formerly. The more they are rejected, the more they retreat into their pouting and chest-puffing...and ignominity.
Out in flyover country MAGA is former Republicans and Democrats. It's why it reaches where Republicans have never been before and where Democrats are no longer an asset
I will be where President Trump is.
It goes without saying. There may actually be nothing he could do I would not support.
Roger that.
Ditto X 17
That's what the left has been saying about us for years. They are pretty perceptive sometimes.
They really hate that too, that we love him so.🥰
who knew oppositional defiant disorder would be such a loyal and comforting state?
in the end everyone dies! and our god wins! ncswicop
Trump is NOT the antichrist
Didn't say he was but blindly following someone without thinking is exactly how you end up with an antichrist in power.
I believe he is the world leader right now and I trust him with government and statesmanship. He is not our Savior, God’s Son, who died on the cross to pay our sin debt.
Me too! I will be where President Trump is. https://x.com/xalphawarriorx/status/1941659127790579921?s=61
It won't work without a Trump endorsement. The system, whether purposefully set up that way or not, is 'winner-take-all'. This is why no 3rd party has ever gained any steam in the US. We don't form coalition governments like the Euros; we're not set up that way. One or the other party would have to crash and the American party take its place - like the fall of the Whig party.
Perot had the best shot - I loved that guy - and he was right - there was a giant sucking sound of jobs out of the US - but after some weirdness, he didn't get any states. He got some counties, but that doesn't cut it. And did Perot end Bush and make Clinton by splitting the conservative vote?
This will probably split the Republican party and make it a non-player, so I'm cautious about any enthusiasm for it. We cannot afford to let the communists win by having their opposition split.
I thought Perot had the right idea. I used to wonder if he was put up to split the Rs as you suggest. There's also the possibility he had a real shot at winning, and as an outsider the DS couldn't allow that and Perot was blackmailed into capitulation. Arkancide was quite popular at the time.
This is SO well stated, and perfectly reflects my feelings, HB77...and TY for laying that out. Also like you, I was a tremendous Perot supporter and yes, "threw away my vote" by voting for the man. I was really taken with him, and I think he could've been a Trump-like reformer...though likely not on the scale of what we have now with Trump. ;)
I'm fully expecting Trump to endorse, and be the head of, the America Party
How do you really single out “certain people” in a plan? Start something big and new, and see who rushes to join or fund first to “spotlight” sing its praises, and then who move to “spotlight” attack it first.
Art of War “head fake” possibly. 😉
That's it exactly.
Musk is Trump's most loyal supporter and a strong candidate for his appointed successor.
The dispute between them is entirely fake
Since Musk is not a natural born citizen he cannot become POTUS OR VP.
Fortunately. I still don't trust him - the skeletons from his past need to be accounted for.
You really don't know whats going on.
Really? What are you basing that on? I’m basing my answer on the Constitution. The requirement that the President must be a natural-born citizen is found in Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of the U.S. Constitution, which states:"No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States."
we need a leader from another country?
I'm English, and we certainly do- we need Trump
Musk will not be leader of this Party, it will be Trump
South Africa will eventually join America so he will not be from another country
But I don't think we want South Africa.
Large pool of blacks who are ok with chanting death to whites ... no thanks.
We'll take the farmers.
Musk is a naturalized American citizen since 2002.
talm bout after trump. keep up
He won't be from "another country" when Canada is part of the US
Elon is a naturalized citizen - not eligible to be POTUS.
I was hoping the new party would be called, "The Patriot Party"
Wonder who's going to try to infiltrate it
Apparently, Steve Bannon thinks he's the only one who read "The Art Of War"
Struggle sessions and purity tests are the only next step. read up
As Admiral Ackbar famously said, "It's a trap!"
It may well be a trap for the RINOs and PAYtriots. But Musk is loyal to Trump, anything that says otherwise is fake
https://youtu.be/WlPTmXi0pVk?si=yDXBU41yopv6SGoG
u/#trap
We already have other parties. Trump was a Democrat, considered a run for POTUS as a Reform Party candidate in 2000, and finally joined the Republican Party.
Then there's the Green Party, the Constitution Party, the Libertarian Party, and for a huge chunk of Congress, the Communist Party.
Also, I don't want to live in a Democracy either. Musk should know that's mob rule, the same as the uni-party.
As long as is the Party of Trump, I have faith
But what says it will be? Musk is saying here that Trump is part of the Uniparty and we have no freedom.
I don't really do spin and speculation that much. At face value this stinks, IMHO.
It's not that I don't understand your concern, but you can't take anything at face value. Respectfully, I think that is a mistake
As I say- it's a matter of faith for me
Trump was a democrat for less than 10 years, Aug 2001 - Sept 2009. Otherwise, he is basically a lifelong Republican.
When you think about it, MAGA no longer works as POTUS is already making it great again with the Golden Age. So what do you call a single party that takes over the Cabal Uniparty. The America Party sounds like something POTUS would create and hopefully do away with the two party system that has failed the American people. I wonder if this is a set up or is Elon really trying to undermine our POTUS? I personally believe it will be a good thing to get rid of Republicans and Democrats and start a new Government run by and for the People, you and me. Who does that sound like? Elon or our GOAT POTUS? or Both? Food for thought.
I've been Independent since before Bill Clinton, because I think both parties are crooked.
“Hurrr durrr but indubpemdnt just means your realley democrat/repubmigan.”
It's just a way of saying I still vote - against both of you.
Sorry fren, not mocking you. I’ve been told that by people in both parties as an [not democrat, but occasionally supportive of them in the past before they went openly insane]. I’m mocking those people.
Nice idea but that never works because we all know that power corrupts people. It may start off with decent people with decent intentions but it won't be long before corruption infiltrates the politicians of the new party.
How about this: Trump is awarded a third term by some kind of legal compensation for the 2020 steal, Trump moves under a new party banner, mass resignations as a result of unsealing (and other reasons) lots of seats are up everywhere, MAGA types appointed or elected to all vacant seats. A kind of instant democratic regime change event. New party, third term, reckoning for monumental crimes, total regime change, new systems everywhere but everything just works as you expect.
That would be a hell of a third act what?
Very unlikely. Trump will be 81 or 82 at the end of this current term. He won't live forever but he has 3 sons of only one is needed to continue the family business. Don't be surprised if Eric runs for the next term. Don Jr doesn't said to be interested in politics and Barron is still too young.
If there's any sign of life in the Brunson case, clean all the trash out and put new people in the existing 2 parties, everywhere. A 3 party system would just make the 'new' party the odd man out. If a 3rd party pulls the cream from the other 2 parties, the other 2 parties would just refill their seats with people who (if possible) are even more radical than what's in there now. Not going to do anything except stir up the dregs on the bottom.
It would!
It'll split the vote and allow Democrats to take power by plurality.
Anyone else have the PGA/LIV golf parallel vibe going on?
WE already have The third party. Trump Made MAGA the third party by Taking the Rep. party from clinton and obama had already destroyed the Dem. party and made it liberal/communism. SO, the Centrist 80% is Now MAGA and that includes 40 million working Democrats. Keep in mind that 'democracy' means NY City, DC. and Cal. OWN and Rule over The Republic, which IS MAGA.
Also keep in mind that the Republican Party started out as the abolitionist (anti-slavery) party. It would be an offense to history if MAGA abandoned this heritage, since it applies so completely to modern times.
In my observation, "democracy" means "rule by Democrats." Every single time a Democrat uses the term, this fully explains their meaning.
The only 'slavery' in the US. is Welfare ( dems ) Paid for by ( dems/LBJ ) Stealing Social Security.
I beg to differ. The tax and regulatory burden on the main citizenry qualifies as a kind of slavery, so far as I am concerned. But I don't disagree about Welfare's downside.
hmm, not sure if I like it
Trump decided to go with the republican party and take it over, rather than risk going 3rd party and SEVERELY diluting potential votes.
The only thing wrong with the republican party are the RINOs, which as the name implies, they aren't really republicans to begin with.
MAGA is the 3rd party,
Second after the Uniparty
But, yes. I wonder if the America party will be renamed the MAGA party? Or if it's simply a euphemism for it
You mean the India party? Musk wants to ramp up H1B visas, ban guns and give more solar credits. he admits all this in his other tweets
Trump wants more h1b people too.
And we should all want a world where we can ban guns. Problem is that world does not exist. But post great awakening? Post precipice? Absolutely possible once the plan is complete and cabal is dead.
False. We still need to be well armed and the right to bear arms shall not be infringed.
It is THE best deterrent for tyranny
Get in line for that neurolink bud jesus. Did you think before typing this out? Where are you right now lol
You want a world where we can ban guns? Such a communist thing to say Who's doing the banning?
Yeah. I want a new Kingdom without sickness and death where we are always together. That world doesn't need guns. It will be biblical.
That's called a fantasy land, no way your actually this retarded. Go take some pills you'll be there soon
Commie alert 📢
Well, in all honesty, he can’t run for president again, so is it really his party, or is it we the people?
I seriously doubt he would - even if he could. The only way I could see it is if he ran to win and step down, giving the presidency to JD (or whoever makes it to 2029).
If Trump successfully works the plan to perfection and makes America (and thus everywhere else) great again he deserves a nice retirement. He will be pushing 83 in 2029.
While I absolutely hate our uniparty. I have mixed feelings about this. I feel it has a high probability of taking votes from the Republican party which will help the Democrat party. Even though it's a Uniparty, we saw the puppets on the left hand cause more damage than the puppets on the right hand. Again very mixed feelings about this.
Q post 2635 The [D] party will cease to exist once it's all exposed. FAKE NEWS can no longer control [dampen] public awareness of the TRUTH. DARK TO LIGHT. Q
Elon's move makes sense to me regarding US transformation... if Democrats are gone as a party, there should be a replacement. Setting the stage... and would not have been possible without this fake fight and the work he did for DOGE.
We need a HUMAN party that differentiates between the subhuman Republican and Democrat party.
Looks like that's what we're getting
Extremely bad idea, demonstrated over the past several generations. The LIbertarian Party started out with that in mind, but ultimately became the captive of tinpot tyrant radical activists, and degenerated into a small puddle full of internecine power struggles. Ross Perot helped to split the conservative vote and enabled Bill Clinton to become President.
Right now, MAGA has preeminence in the GOP and the objective should be to coax (or force) out the RINO component. Let them form a third party and split the globalist vote. If we can't do that when we have the upper hand, we have no hope of establishing a third party anyway.
It never fails in politics. The amateurs don't want to finish the job ("Kill the RINOs!") because it would be hard work, so they think they can avoid the problem by starting all over again new. Rather than fix the roof on their house, they would prefer to tear it down and start all over fresh?
At this point, the president is the only human being I trust. I would walk behind him through hell and give up my life if he ordered it because I know in the core of my being that he is leading us through to something better.
Calm down, this is going nowhere.
Yeah screw that... means nothing... I'm still not eating there...
He's right of course about bankrupting the country with waste and graft but creating a third party will just be doing the democrats a huge favor. Elon is mad because he didn't get his way.
Kayfabe. Movie.
Who is the head of the Republican Party? Donald John Trump. Do we really want to start over?
No. It is a foolish idea. It would be like establishing a new army in the midst of a mortal war.
OKLAHOMA STATUTES TITLE 26. ELECTIONS
https://oksenate.gov/sites/default/files/2019-12/os26.pdf
Remember that since Trump v CASA, Trump is no long obliged to act within local, state, or federal laws and cannot be prevented from breaching those laws.
So if he declares the America Party to be a political party, then any law making it not be a political party cannot be enforced against him
US CONSTITUTION
Article 2, Section 1:
The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. He shall hold his Office during the Term of four Years, and, together with the Vice President, chosen for the same Term, be elected, as follows
Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.
The Electors shall meet in their respective States, and vote by Ballot for two Persons, of whom one at least shall not be an Inhabitant of the same State with themselves. And they shall make a List of all the Persons voted for, and of the Number of Votes for each; which List they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the Seat of the Government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate. The President of the Senate shall, in the Presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the Certificates, and the Votes shall then be counted. The Person having the greatest Number of Votes shall be the President, if such Number be a Majority of the whole Number of Electors appointed; and if there be more than one who have such Majority, and have an equal Number of Votes, then the House of Representatives shall immediately chuse by Ballot one of them for President; and if no Person have a Majority, then from the five highest on the List the said House shall in like Manner chuse the President. But in chusing the President, the Votes shall be taken by States, the Representation from each State having one Vote; A quorum for this Purpose shall consist of a Member or Members from two thirds of the States, and a Majority of all the States shall be necessary to a Choice. In every Case, after the Choice of the President, the Person having the greatest Number of Votes of the Electors shall be the Vice President. But if there should remain two or more who have equal Votes, the Senate shall chuse from them by Ballot the Vice President.
The Congress may determine the Time of chusing the Electors, and the Day on which they shall give their Votes; which Day shall be the same throughout the United States.
No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
Article I, Section 4, Clause 1:
The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators.
24A884 Trump v. CASA, Inc. (06/27/2025)
I am not a Republican anymore. It’s a filthy cabal same as DemocRat party. They hate America and they hate The People.
As long as there are no free masons or demon worshipers allowed
I expect the whole point will be to expel them from the RINOs
I'm not sure I understand the point you are making - I hope you don't mind clarifying it
This fake fall out is the perfect avenue to break out this concept. It's not Trump pushing it, it's Elon. We can't fix the Democrat or Republican parties. So let's start a new party! I am loving their 5D chess game!
Where have you been? Trump has virtually single-handedly corrected the Republican Party to be the MAGA movement. We are in de facto control. The only problem is the remaining RINO element that needs to be primaried by MAGA congressmen. For God's sake, do not concede a defeat that does not exist.
I've been here all along. I don't see it that way.
I would prefer no political parties at all.
Why should party leadership come between me and my duly elected representative?
It shouldn't, but there will always be "parties," call them what you will. And the reason for that is because, on any issue, there will be a rational moral approach and any number of irrational or immoral approaches, and they will have their respective advocacies. It depends on whether your duly elected representative is a rational and moral person. And that depends on you and your fellow citizens. Which is why you cannot afford to be disinterested or uninvolved in the elections. I know: tough work. But you cannot benefit from what you do not invest in. This has been our problem for generations: sloth and complacency.
Given human nature, as you described above, how about dynamic political parties. Each party forms for ONE issue and lasts for one session of congress. No unelected persons may be part of said party.
We can place other restrictions on the party as needed, but the bottom line is that the current system puts unelected persons (party leadership) between me and my duly elected representative.
The current party system has failed us.
Single-issue parties are perpetually doomed to irrelevance. You see what happens in the European countries where parliaments comprise multiple parties, and they struggle for dominance. Sometimes, a Hitler results.
It is also contrary to the nature of opposition. The two sides generally represent two major themes of thought, because all the issues are related, e.g., constitutionalism vs. straight democracy.
There is no "system" that puts a party between you and your representative. You should always be able to contact or see your representative. The only problem is if they hold you at a distance, in which case that would have been the wrong man in office. Which comes back to grass-roots politics and how that man was elected at all.
Are you serious?? The party members do what the party tells them and get nice, influential committee assignments, potentially with tons of perks.
Or don't do what the party leaders tell them and get doomed to irrelevance by having no political capital (read influence) to get anything done.
So, who voted these guys into office? There are people who have integrity, or we wouldn't be having the successful Beautiful Big Bill. You have work to do in removing the trash and putting in the right people. It's the old adage: If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem.
You do realize that Elon is pissing off actual MAGA supporters don't? People have turned on him. He's also suspending and demonitizing many larger and small MAGA Trump supporter accounts on TwitterX as well.
The "poll" he took supporting this 3rd party is full of foreigners and bots.
I see no one has mentioned yet that Kim Clement mentioned that a new party would emerge. Looks like he may hit another bullseye with that prophecy. He didn't seem to think it was a negative thing.
By the look of things, this could be a successor to the Democrat Party, but it could well be an overtly Socialist Party. The most of the worst, home to weirdos both philosophical and psychological. The last "respectable" refuge of aberration.
Until there is a thorough sanitizing of the intellectual and mental health of a nation, this disaffected element will associate to have its say.
The creation of a legitimate third party is a positive step, but we can't afford to lose focus or vigilance. The enemy has the country in his grip because of his corruptive influence on mankind. There's a saying I picked up while in the military: "Locks just keep honest people honest." Dishonest people aren't deterred by morality or fairness. Honest, decent people fall victim because they see the good in others and give them the benefit of doubt. We have to keep checks and balances, to look for the sociopaths among us, to preserve our peace and safety.
I'm all for a 4th party (there already is 3, independant) but it would need a better name because "America" includes all of the countries in the American hemisphere. Canada to Peru, are technically Americas. Only people of the USA are so selfish to think only they are AMERICAN. Another reason why the The Gulf of America works but even that should have been The Gulf of the Americas.
Republicans have basically morphed into"assistant Democrats"; they all assist one another at looting the American Treasury
You are behind the times. The GOP has morphed into MAGA. We still have an encrustation of RINOs to shed. Please stop giving them the prominence they only had formerly. The more they are rejected, the more they retreat into their pouting and chest-puffing...and ignominity.
Out in flyover country MAGA is former Republicans and Democrats. It's why it reaches where Republicans have never been before and where Democrats are no longer an asset
I do not support the H1B party.