Ok, so the bad actors in the FBI did destroy evidence and then created new false evidence framing Trump and other white hats, white hats recovered actual evidence. Trump is playing the part that he’s in the files acting like he doesn’t want it released so black hats think their plan is still in play. Congress demands the release of what they believe is a fake file that implicates Trump and what is actually released is the real deal?? Down they all go. Did I get this right?
dems have wanted the list since day one, go back and look at twitter when Epstein was killed. They were demanding the release this whole time because they thought Trump was at the top of the list.
I remember leaving a Trump rally in 2019, and as you might expect, there were protesters outside afterwards. One of the things I remember one shouting was “Epstein didn’t kill himself” to which I replied something to the effect of “that’s entirely possible.” The dude kind of backed off and seemed surprised that I’d say something like that.
Yep, democrats have been demanding these files since day one, it's so stupid everyone is suddenly saying Trump is only saying to move on and stop asking about Epstein so democrats start demanding the files.
How is it bullshit, go look at twitter, or the news or press releases made by congress idiots, all those dems wanted the files. Democrats have entered bills into congress almost 40 times to get the files and it always got struck down.
Yeah, there just hasn't been enough time to redact the names of victims ... even though the names were already redacted during the court case when Alan Dershowitz and ... wait a second Pam Bondi argued for the files to be thrown out of court.
Yep Pam Blondi was AG of Florida when the Florida Epstein trial was happening and she OK'd the deal that let him walk away a free dude. She negotiated that deal with Dershowitz, Trump's former personal lawyer and owner of the second largest homes in both Mar-A-Lago AND Trump Tower.
Right - i dont waste an ounce of energy thinking about this situation. Trump is in, he has 3 and a half more years to correct this ship. Everything inbetween is theater.
Though I will say, it has been bad theater. Not unlike 2020. I dont have to love the movie, guys. Stop trying to get me excited for parts of the film I will always hate, even if it has a good ending.
By this point in the movie, I expect nothing less than the bad actors releasing the fake, phony, and false files. Then everyone lets out a big sigh of disappointment (and in some cases, relief). Then who should come forth out of the shadows? Jeffrey Epstein himself! "Hey, those files are totally wrong", he'll say. Then the fireworks begin.
When Elon tweeted that Trump was on the LIST , than deleted it. That got all the DEMS and RINOS screaming for the release of the files. Maybe could of been planned like that. u/#ConductorTrump
This is so dumb. So everyone wants to see a list with high flyers only to have everyone’s hopes dashed when their lawyers get them freed? You think a list is all that’s needed to convict? The real play is to convict based on evidence like what they’re doing with Comey and Co. FORGET EPSTEIN!!
You do realize that Q was a psyop, right? Sure, a psyop with specific objectives, but a psyop nonetheless. Taking Q literally because you think you know exactly what Q meant all the time, that's just willfully ignoring the fact that you simply do not know. Hey, you can believe you know, and that's fine, but its not the same as knowing.
Acknowledging what we do no know here is just as important, if not more important, that recognizing what we do know.
Do you think Q are liars?
What, do you think that Q was there to tell you exactly what is going on? An oracle?
Absolutely no one who followed Q during the drop period thought we would be exactly where we are today. It's about time that smarter folks began recognizing that there's plenty we do not know about the Q operation.
Fundamentally, there is super solid evidence to verify that Q was a military intel operation, and DJT knew all about it (Q+), and that the primary core objective was getting people to wake up and think for themselves. Many people woke up, but then failed to learn to think for themselves. Effectively thinking for yourself demands being honest intellectually and emotionally, and anyone who says that the definitely know what Q meant or said or why is not being honest. In my opinion.
Taking Q literally because you think you know exactly what Q meant all the time
I said, Q said nobody walks from this, and I also said Q has everything.
I never claimed to know what Q meant all the time. But the two statements above are phrased to be taken at face value, there's nothing ambiguous about either statement.
Now how about you?
only to have everyone’s hopes dashed when their lawyers get them freed?
I'm assuming, because you're responding in this subthread, that you are taking the guy's side that I replied to -- that you believe focusing on Epstein is dumb and we should forget about it?
I always found that people who insist the entire Q community only focus on one thing to be odd, as if we all couldn't both focus on Epstein and Comey at the same time.
What, do you think that Q was there to tell you exactly what is going on? An oracle?
No. Not an Oracle. Not at all.
If I tell you that tomorrow, I will wear a blue shirt -- when tomorrow comes and I'm wearing a blue shirt --
Does that make me a prophet?
Does it mean I've built a time machine and saw that I would be wearing a blue shirt?
Have I constructed a super-impressive AI that predicts the future?
Or maybe I know what is happening because I made it happen.
When Q told us that McCain would be "in the news", and he died exactly one month later, to the exact minute and accounting for the complex daylight saving nuances of Arizona ... do I think an Oracle told Q that was going to happen?
No. That was the date they scheduled to kill the traitor, and they controlled the exact time to be fed to the MSM.
Project Looking Glass is a government plan to meticulously orchestrate future events, while "calling the shots" that would happen before hand so accurately that the casual observer would believe it were prophesized by an Oracle. But in reality, they just knew they were going to wear a blue shirt.
I'm assuming, because you're responding in this subthread, that you are taking the guy's side that I replied to -- that you believe focusing on Epstein is dumb and we should forget about it?
No, not really. That's a very bad assumption, and only reinforces to me that your perspective is "me vs him". Either I'm right or he's wrong. And he's wrong. So I'm right.
I think he made some reasonable arguments, highlighting the focus on "The List" and the solidness of what he considers "the real play". These are not unreasonable ideas to consider, even if he expressed them in a rather blunt and polarized way.
But I also think you over-react, and if he is polarized and a bit .... extreme (?) in his view, I think you are too.
In my humble view, its not black or white. I'm not sure I know what DJT is doing here. And, I'm more than willing to consider that there are multiple ways of looking at and understanding the situation.
And frankly, I don't find (what comes across as your ) sense of absolute conviction about your own interpretation and perspective either persuasive or constructive.
These things could be discussed. Instead, we have one guy expressing (curtly, I'll admit) his view, and another just going extreme and coming back with "Do you think that Q are liars????!".
Every time I see people able to actually discuss, consider alternative views and share perspectives (and thereby contribute to the development of the collective thought), I see that approach accompanied by a certain level of humility. A willingness to admit, "hey, maybe I do not know, and maybe what I think is not how it is, etc. I believe this, but...."
That humility and willingness to admit the limitations of personal knowledge seems to be absent in those who come up with extreme reactions that are really only rhetorical attempts to shut down the other viewpoint and claim some sort of dialectical victory.
People with solid grounded views are able to consider others' views, or discuss them, rather than just attempting to shout them down.
But the two statements above are phrased to be taken at face value, there's nothing ambiguous about either statement.
"nothing ambiguous about either statement"
To you. Nothing ambiguous to you. And, you are 100% sure that you know what they mean, even in the context of the whole Q operation. Right?
Q wrote it, so it literally MUST be true. Yeah?
I think your absolutist and excessive confidence in what can only be described as 'your interpretation' smacks of a sort of 'true believer' fundamentalism I've seen plenty of times in our community. And maybe, just maybe, that over confidence makes it impossible for you to even consider certain alternative perspectives.
me? The longer I have been involved in the Great Awakening (going on about 8 years, if you count from Q), the more I realize how much I do not know. At the same time, my conviction that God is working through Donald Trump, and that the Q operation was a military intel operation with certain fundamental objectives I find those convictions only increasing.
Hey, but that's just me. If you don't find anything in my comments here, I mean, feel free to ignore them. But that's what I see.
In closing, I'll say, that the very fact that Q stated "Sometimes disinformation is necessary" opens up all sorts of possibilities, some of which some people are simply unwilling to consider, because it threatens their fervently held beliefs.
If I'm steel-manning your argument properly, you're saying Q is perfectly capable of spreading disinformation to patriots. Specifically in the case of no one walks from this (implying some people who did bad things actually are going to get away with it). Also specifically in "we have everything" (defining everything as being all the info needed to bring the bad guys down, and you're challenging that Q may not actually have this). Not absolutely, but a possibility.
Taking the position that Q could lie to patriots isn't new. I've heard the argument many times -- people calling Q "Operation Trust 2.0". They say Q is nothing more than an operation to lull patriots into doing nothing, when they should have done something -- namely picked up their arms and started a civil war. I can't even count the times I've seen detractors lament the fact that we didn't all pick up our guns and storm the white house.
There's a hard limit of how much you're actually allowed to challenge Q's intentions -- the above example got people deported left and right. The rule of the forum on display in the right column is "Q supporters ONLY" -- emphasis moderators. Challenging the intent behind the Q psyop as being negative will get people deported. Disparaging Q is off-topic for GAW.
That's the extreme. I'm not saying you're challenging Q to that extent, neither is the guy I originally responded to.
Nonetheless, characterizing Q as allowing bad guys to get away with it (as in some will walk away from this), or that Q doesn't have the intel/information necessary to deliver (they don't have it all), likely disparages Q's plan enough to be considered that anyone making these claims is not actually a Q supporter.
There's enough information about Q out there, enough proofs, where someone can make an solid educated guess on whether Q is what they present themselves to be, or whether they are a disinformation psyop with the intent of deceiving patriots.
GAW isn't the place for those who swing toward the latter.
Are you even able to characterize your position in a way that isn't a blackpill? State how Q deceiving patriots into thinking everyone will be held accountable (as a lie) is anything other than a disparagement of the Q plan -- same goes for Q not actually having the info necessary to actually put people away. It all sounds like blackpill to me.
Yep. I get that. Maybe that's just because you are incapable of understanding what I'm saying, and from where I'm saying it.
Perhaps thinking of this as a ven diagram might illustrate what the situation. What I conceive of as the Q operation and what you conceive of as the Q operation, they overlap in some places but they are vastly different in some respects.
But, it really seems you're incapable of looking outside your own perspective, so I won't belabor the discussion much more.
But before I wrap up, I need to refine a bit what I wrote:
The longer I have been involved in the Great Awakening (going on about 8 years, if you count from Q), the more I realize how much I do not know. At the same time, my conviction that God is working through Donald Trump, and that the Q operation was a military intel operation with certain fundamental objectives designed to critically advance Trump's (and God's) agenda for restoring America I find those convictions only increasing.
I've added the italicized part, because it seems that this didn't come across in what I wrote.
And, I'll make one comment:
I'm actually inclined to think that you're the one with the black pill issue. Because, if things do not go the way you think they will, you are likely to think "I've been lied to" instead of actually questioning whether you actually understood what was going on in the first place.
Case in point. There are millions of people turning their backs on President Trump because they do not like what he is saying about Epstein. But, are these people even considering that maybe they do not or have not understood what President Trump is actually trying to do? I doubt it. Instead, they blame Trump because what he is doing conflicts with their concept of who he is or what they thought he was doing.
When someone suggested an alternative perspective on the Epstein situation, you rose up and [projected] the idea that he thinks "Q was lying". Just as you have to me.
Very few frogs here would be able to interpret what I've written over the past few days with you, not to mention every single contribution to this board over the past 4+ years, as me 'disparaging Q', 'disparaging the Q operation', saying that the Q operation is Operation Trust 2.0, or saying that somehow Q is a disinfo op. But you obviously can. Why is that?
Are you even able to characterize your position in a way that isn't a blackpill?
Yes. Q was a military intel operation executed in order to initiate a great awakening, wage psy-war on the Cabal and the Deep state, mobilize hundreds of thousands and millions of digital soldiers, but you are incapable of questioning how you yourself understand it.
Q's not a problem here.
I think the way you understand Q is.
But I won't bother you any more. Thanks for at least replying.
Jesus said "Suffer the little children to come unto me (TRUTH) for of such is the Kingdom of God, and if you are not born again and become as one of these, you will in no wise enter in to the Kingdom of God" Trump knows this and knows NOTHING, NOTHING comes before the kids....TRUST THE PLAN NCSWIC
Yes, the word "suffer" simply means to not prevent, let them know TRUTH as well. Truth is so easy to understand that a child can see before most adults...
Everything being done on the public stage is for normies and lefty loons. That's why I TRY NOT to get to worked up when I see Trump and Musk acting, Blondi and Kash saying what they say, etc.
If you wanna gauge to go by, talk to a few of your local normies. When the average normie is crying to you about Epstein that perhaps means we're, wait for it .... " 2 more weeks " out.
Personally not sure if we will ever see them, and if we do it will be piecemeal and sometime next year to affect midterms more. As always I wanna be wrong.
Q said disclosure, but not something we can't recover from. I don't see an epstein list full of a bunch of HVT's as being nonrecoverable, but w.e.
I'd imagine they will do this carrot stick thing until the very end as to keep salivating with the possibility of Trump being on the list, even tho we know he's not.
So there is a "list" that Epstein and Maxwell got arrested/tried on. Then there is no "list" that he was killed over, and she is still in jail for. Then there is a list, Bondi was putting into a binder. Then there is no list, FBI destroyed it and it doesn't exist. Now there is a list, that CONgress wants released?
First of all, I'm sure most of CONgress is on it. Second, if it's released without Trumps name on it, there will be an uproar that it's a fake list and if he's not on it, or he took his name off first. That invalidates everyone that is on the list. If Trump is on it, they will figure out how to get him out of office, no matter how many times people say it was just him hitching a ride.
None of the options work for me. I want the list, I want the pure list, and I want arrests. Oh, and prosecutions. Quick prosecutions.
Wayne Allen Root put forth a good plan. Special Councel sourced in Florida to investigate the case with the intentions of full disclosure. We do not know what the Deep State / Democrats cooked in the fully corrupted case.
You would be asking questions you don't know the answer to. Law 101
Just like the practical strategy to go about these things with a tact and control, you just cannot open the faucet to see where it goes , thats insane.
Currently the DOJ had NO STRUCTURE to deliver a successful anything.
And the reality is the BAR or the National Law is in complete crisis. Prosecutions are way down, because they are collectively way LEFT.
I don't have the answer, but Wayne Allen Roots plan is awesome. We don't have to let Clapper, Comey and Brennan walk, we can still get them to talk to stay alive in the end.
If we pause for a second and ask ourselves a question . . . Gee . . .
What COULD the Deep State / Demonrats possible install in this file, or what could they have done to alter it, or destroy ?
Now we get to the problem, it can't be trusted,
we have records that need to be curated, before release.
THATS why Kash and Bongino were bug eyed, they saw the pile of shit, They all did and don't know what to do, YET.
14 Terrabites would take you months to go through, not a few weekends and some overtime.
Ok, so the bad actors in the FBI did destroy evidence and then created new false evidence framing Trump and other white hats, white hats recovered actual evidence. Trump is playing the part that he’s in the files acting like he doesn’t want it released so black hats think their plan is still in play. Congress demands the release of what they believe is a fake file that implicates Trump and what is actually released is the real deal?? Down they all go. Did I get this right?
We have heard for years now he caught them all and has it all. We'll see
Why doesn’t he release the “real deal” files at the very outset on day one? Why play a wholly unnecessary and overly complete game?
Cause Dems and the MSM didn't want it then.
It would have not been nearly as big of a deal.
Now they have instructed their sheep that it IS a big deal and it will do more damage and wake more people up.
This sounds more likely, good theory fren.
u/#SmirkingTrump
dems have wanted the list since day one, go back and look at twitter when Epstein was killed. They were demanding the release this whole time because they thought Trump was at the top of the list.
I remember leaving a Trump rally in 2019, and as you might expect, there were protesters outside afterwards. One of the things I remember one shouting was “Epstein didn’t kill himself” to which I replied something to the effect of “that’s entirely possible.” The dude kind of backed off and seemed surprised that I’d say something like that.
Yep, democrats have been demanding these files since day one, it's so stupid everyone is suddenly saying Trump is only saying to move on and stop asking about Epstein so democrats start demanding the files.
That is bullshit and you know it.
How is it bullshit, go look at twitter, or the news or press releases made by congress idiots, all those dems wanted the files. Democrats have entered bills into congress almost 40 times to get the files and it always got struck down.
Why didn't the Biden admin release them if D's have been demanding them??
Maybe the names of innocent people (whose names were put there to control them) will need to be investigated and removed first?
Yeah, there just hasn't been enough time to redact the names of victims ... even though the names were already redacted during the court case when Alan Dershowitz and ... wait a second Pam Bondi argued for the files to be thrown out of court.
Yep Pam Blondi was AG of Florida when the Florida Epstein trial was happening and she OK'd the deal that let him walk away a free dude. She negotiated that deal with Dershowitz, Trump's former personal lawyer and owner of the second largest homes in both Mar-A-Lago AND Trump Tower.
I find that a bit odd.
Only time will tell.
Right - i dont waste an ounce of energy thinking about this situation. Trump is in, he has 3 and a half more years to correct this ship. Everything inbetween is theater.
Though I will say, it has been bad theater. Not unlike 2020. I dont have to love the movie, guys. Stop trying to get me excited for parts of the film I will always hate, even if it has a good ending.
Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak." Sun Tzu, The Art of War
By this point in the movie, I expect nothing less than the bad actors releasing the fake, phony, and false files. Then everyone lets out a big sigh of disappointment (and in some cases, relief). Then who should come forth out of the shadows? Jeffrey Epstein himself! "Hey, those files are totally wrong", he'll say. Then the fireworks begin.
LOL. Suddenly everyone wants to see the files. Not just the burrowing, autistic tinfoil-hat merchants.
Now it's official.
Add to this the polite request for the Kween to come and grace the congress with her presence ....
I could require MOAR popcorn.
When Elon tweeted that Trump was on the LIST , than deleted it. That got all the DEMS and RINOS screaming for the release of the files. Maybe could of been planned like that. u/#ConductorTrump
Can you show me where dems weren't begging for the release of the files they thought Trump was listed in?
🚨 BREAKING: CONGRESS JUST INTRODUCED THE “EPSTEIN FILES TRANSPARENCY ACT” AND IT’S MASSIVE
The bill demands the DOJ release everything:
• Flight logs
• Names of officials
• Internal FBI emails
• Immunity deals
• Epstein’s death records
🧨 No redactions for “reputational harm” or “political sensitivity.”
If passed, this would blow the lid off it all.
https://x.com/HustleBitch_/status/1945280946527432746
How does he do it?!
He's got them begging him to bury the "elites."
Maybe con-gress wants to do a Sampson...
You know that's exactly what's happening. Massie is on this Bill.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hw3CE04LGiA&pp=ygUNbXV0bGV5cyBsYXVnaA%3D%3D
Zion will not be pleased...
FF and (more) flash flood (or even earthquake) BOLO.
Q2626 = [:17] on the clock = July 15.
u/#q2626
Posted about JS on the QClock & 7/15 three days ago.
https://greatawakening.win/p/19BZyyFdZR/john-solomon-there-will-be-massi/
Who needs the news when we have OPs like this on GAW!?
This dude is a genius.
Getting everyone to beg for release, anyone going against this will be known as a pedophile.
What a genius play. Get Bondi to step down and appoint Gaetz to go full hammer on these disgusting filthy Satanic minions.
I wish, but I think that they’re holding Gaetz out to be a Special Counsel on something huge.
Wild prediction. Bondi will NOT step down, and Gaetz will not become AG. But I mean, while we're just 100% speculating, that's my particular one.
I mean, speculation ain't nothing more than theorizing hypotheticals, right?
Not to be a bubble popper but that's not a wild prediction at all
Woohoo! POTUS IS THE GOAT! ✨
Ruh roh.
This is so dumb. So everyone wants to see a list with high flyers only to have everyone’s hopes dashed when their lawyers get them freed? You think a list is all that’s needed to convict? The real play is to convict based on evidence like what they’re doing with Comey and Co. FORGET EPSTEIN!!
Q said nobody walks from this.
Q said they have it all.
Do you think Q are liars?
The plan involves exposing what is going on, which pushes the population to the precipice.
If military is the only way, who cares what muh lawyers think? They going to get them out of a military tribunal?
When Trump said "Nah, don't focus on Epstein" ... did you really believe it? You don't think Trump was baiting?
And do you think people get arrested or not arrested based on what we remember or forget here on GAW?
You do realize that Q was a psyop, right? Sure, a psyop with specific objectives, but a psyop nonetheless. Taking Q literally because you think you know exactly what Q meant all the time, that's just willfully ignoring the fact that you simply do not know. Hey, you can believe you know, and that's fine, but its not the same as knowing.
Acknowledging what we do no know here is just as important, if not more important, that recognizing what we do know.
What, do you think that Q was there to tell you exactly what is going on? An oracle?
Absolutely no one who followed Q during the drop period thought we would be exactly where we are today. It's about time that smarter folks began recognizing that there's plenty we do not know about the Q operation.
Fundamentally, there is super solid evidence to verify that Q was a military intel operation, and DJT knew all about it (Q+), and that the primary core objective was getting people to wake up and think for themselves. Many people woke up, but then failed to learn to think for themselves. Effectively thinking for yourself demands being honest intellectually and emotionally, and anyone who says that the definitely know what Q meant or said or why is not being honest. In my opinion.
I said, Q said nobody walks from this, and I also said Q has everything.
I never claimed to know what Q meant all the time. But the two statements above are phrased to be taken at face value, there's nothing ambiguous about either statement.
Now how about you?
I'm assuming, because you're responding in this subthread, that you are taking the guy's side that I replied to -- that you believe focusing on Epstein is dumb and we should forget about it?
I always found that people who insist the entire Q community only focus on one thing to be odd, as if we all couldn't both focus on Epstein and Comey at the same time.
No. Not an Oracle. Not at all.
If I tell you that tomorrow, I will wear a blue shirt -- when tomorrow comes and I'm wearing a blue shirt --
Does that make me a prophet?
Does it mean I've built a time machine and saw that I would be wearing a blue shirt?
Have I constructed a super-impressive AI that predicts the future?
Or maybe I know what is happening because I made it happen.
When Q told us that McCain would be "in the news", and he died exactly one month later, to the exact minute and accounting for the complex daylight saving nuances of Arizona ... do I think an Oracle told Q that was going to happen?
No. That was the date they scheduled to kill the traitor, and they controlled the exact time to be fed to the MSM.
Project Looking Glass is a government plan to meticulously orchestrate future events, while "calling the shots" that would happen before hand so accurately that the casual observer would believe it were prophesized by an Oracle. But in reality, they just knew they were going to wear a blue shirt.
Thanks for the reply.
No, not really. That's a very bad assumption, and only reinforces to me that your perspective is "me vs him". Either I'm right or he's wrong. And he's wrong. So I'm right.
I think he made some reasonable arguments, highlighting the focus on "The List" and the solidness of what he considers "the real play". These are not unreasonable ideas to consider, even if he expressed them in a rather blunt and polarized way.
But I also think you over-react, and if he is polarized and a bit .... extreme (?) in his view, I think you are too.
In my humble view, its not black or white. I'm not sure I know what DJT is doing here. And, I'm more than willing to consider that there are multiple ways of looking at and understanding the situation.
And frankly, I don't find (what comes across as your ) sense of absolute conviction about your own interpretation and perspective either persuasive or constructive.
These things could be discussed. Instead, we have one guy expressing (curtly, I'll admit) his view, and another just going extreme and coming back with "Do you think that Q are liars????!".
Every time I see people able to actually discuss, consider alternative views and share perspectives (and thereby contribute to the development of the collective thought), I see that approach accompanied by a certain level of humility. A willingness to admit, "hey, maybe I do not know, and maybe what I think is not how it is, etc. I believe this, but...."
That humility and willingness to admit the limitations of personal knowledge seems to be absent in those who come up with extreme reactions that are really only rhetorical attempts to shut down the other viewpoint and claim some sort of dialectical victory.
People with solid grounded views are able to consider others' views, or discuss them, rather than just attempting to shout them down.
"nothing ambiguous about either statement"
To you. Nothing ambiguous to you. And, you are 100% sure that you know what they mean, even in the context of the whole Q operation. Right?
Q wrote it, so it literally MUST be true. Yeah?
I think your absolutist and excessive confidence in what can only be described as 'your interpretation' smacks of a sort of 'true believer' fundamentalism I've seen plenty of times in our community. And maybe, just maybe, that over confidence makes it impossible for you to even consider certain alternative perspectives.
me? The longer I have been involved in the Great Awakening (going on about 8 years, if you count from Q), the more I realize how much I do not know. At the same time, my conviction that God is working through Donald Trump, and that the Q operation was a military intel operation with certain fundamental objectives I find those convictions only increasing.
Hey, but that's just me. If you don't find anything in my comments here, I mean, feel free to ignore them. But that's what I see.
In closing, I'll say, that the very fact that Q stated "Sometimes disinformation is necessary" opens up all sorts of possibilities, some of which some people are simply unwilling to consider, because it threatens their fervently held beliefs.
If I'm steel-manning your argument properly, you're saying Q is perfectly capable of spreading disinformation to patriots. Specifically in the case of no one walks from this (implying some people who did bad things actually are going to get away with it). Also specifically in "we have everything" (defining everything as being all the info needed to bring the bad guys down, and you're challenging that Q may not actually have this). Not absolutely, but a possibility.
Taking the position that Q could lie to patriots isn't new. I've heard the argument many times -- people calling Q "Operation Trust 2.0". They say Q is nothing more than an operation to lull patriots into doing nothing, when they should have done something -- namely picked up their arms and started a civil war. I can't even count the times I've seen detractors lament the fact that we didn't all pick up our guns and storm the white house.
There's a hard limit of how much you're actually allowed to challenge Q's intentions -- the above example got people deported left and right. The rule of the forum on display in the right column is "Q supporters ONLY" -- emphasis moderators. Challenging the intent behind the Q psyop as being negative will get people deported. Disparaging Q is off-topic for GAW.
That's the extreme. I'm not saying you're challenging Q to that extent, neither is the guy I originally responded to.
Nonetheless, characterizing Q as allowing bad guys to get away with it (as in some will walk away from this), or that Q doesn't have the intel/information necessary to deliver (they don't have it all), likely disparages Q's plan enough to be considered that anyone making these claims is not actually a Q supporter.
There's enough information about Q out there, enough proofs, where someone can make an solid educated guess on whether Q is what they present themselves to be, or whether they are a disinformation psyop with the intent of deceiving patriots.
GAW isn't the place for those who swing toward the latter.
Are you even able to characterize your position in a way that isn't a blackpill? State how Q deceiving patriots into thinking everyone will be held accountable (as a lie) is anything other than a disparagement of the Q plan -- same goes for Q not actually having the info necessary to actually put people away. It all sounds like blackpill to me.
Thanks for replying. I think.
Yep. I get that. Maybe that's just because you are incapable of understanding what I'm saying, and from where I'm saying it.
Perhaps thinking of this as a ven diagram might illustrate what the situation. What I conceive of as the Q operation and what you conceive of as the Q operation, they overlap in some places but they are vastly different in some respects.
But, it really seems you're incapable of looking outside your own perspective, so I won't belabor the discussion much more.
But before I wrap up, I need to refine a bit what I wrote:
I've added the italicized part, because it seems that this didn't come across in what I wrote.
And, I'll make one comment:
I'm actually inclined to think that you're the one with the black pill issue. Because, if things do not go the way you think they will, you are likely to think "I've been lied to" instead of actually questioning whether you actually understood what was going on in the first place.
Case in point. There are millions of people turning their backs on President Trump because they do not like what he is saying about Epstein. But, are these people even considering that maybe they do not or have not understood what President Trump is actually trying to do? I doubt it. Instead, they blame Trump because what he is doing conflicts with their concept of who he is or what they thought he was doing.
When someone suggested an alternative perspective on the Epstein situation, you rose up and [projected] the idea that he thinks "Q was lying". Just as you have to me.
Very few frogs here would be able to interpret what I've written over the past few days with you, not to mention every single contribution to this board over the past 4+ years, as me 'disparaging Q', 'disparaging the Q operation', saying that the Q operation is Operation Trust 2.0, or saying that somehow Q is a disinfo op. But you obviously can. Why is that?
Yes. Q was a military intel operation executed in order to initiate a great awakening, wage psy-war on the Cabal and the Deep state, mobilize hundreds of thousands and millions of digital soldiers, but you are incapable of questioning how you yourself understand it.
Q's not a problem here.
I think the way you understand Q is.
But I won't bother you any more. Thanks for at least replying.
Jesus said "Suffer the little children to come unto me (TRUTH) for of such is the Kingdom of God, and if you are not born again and become as one of these, you will in no wise enter in to the Kingdom of God" Trump knows this and knows NOTHING, NOTHING comes before the kids....TRUST THE PLAN NCSWIC
I never understood why Jesus wanted the little children to suffer. I suspect that this is a bad translation like many others.
Yes, the word "suffer" simply means to not prevent, let them know TRUTH as well. Truth is so easy to understand that a child can see before most adults...
Oh man, I’m about to get all glassy eyed about the next rugpull 🥹
Now he can release the real files that military intelligence, the NSA, or space force intercepted?
It will be interesting to see who votes for this in both the House and the Senate.
White hats have the real evidence.
Everything being done on the public stage is for normies and lefty loons. That's why I TRY NOT to get to worked up when I see Trump and Musk acting, Blondi and Kash saying what they say, etc.
If you wanna gauge to go by, talk to a few of your local normies. When the average normie is crying to you about Epstein that perhaps means we're, wait for it .... " 2 more weeks " out.
Personally not sure if we will ever see them, and if we do it will be piecemeal and sometime next year to affect midterms more. As always I wanna be wrong.
Q said disclosure, but not something we can't recover from. I don't see an epstein list full of a bunch of HVT's as being nonrecoverable, but w.e.
I'd imagine they will do this carrot stick thing until the very end as to keep salivating with the possibility of Trump being on the list, even tho we know he's not.
Don't stand on the rug
this.
So there is a "list" that Epstein and Maxwell got arrested/tried on. Then there is no "list" that he was killed over, and she is still in jail for. Then there is a list, Bondi was putting into a binder. Then there is no list, FBI destroyed it and it doesn't exist. Now there is a list, that CONgress wants released?
First of all, I'm sure most of CONgress is on it. Second, if it's released without Trumps name on it, there will be an uproar that it's a fake list and if he's not on it, or he took his name off first. That invalidates everyone that is on the list. If Trump is on it, they will figure out how to get him out of office, no matter how many times people say it was just him hitching a ride.
None of the options work for me. I want the list, I want the pure list, and I want arrests. Oh, and prosecutions. Quick prosecutions.
Doj only has some of the info. The intelligence agencies have the good stuff. Tulsi needs to be in the hot seat with Pam.
I'LL HOLD MY BREATH!
"I can hold my breath for a loooong time!"
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dO7wbszhKnU&t=11s
Republicans voted down the bill. This is getting hard to follow.
https://newrepublic.com/post/197987/house-republicans-vote-block-epstein-files
Ohhh goodie, let's see what happens, July is getting hot!
edit to add this link : https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/07/wayne-root-3-price-1-heres-how-trump/
Wayne Allen Root put forth a good plan. Special Councel sourced in Florida to investigate the case with the intentions of full disclosure. We do not know what the Deep State / Democrats cooked in the fully corrupted case.
You would be asking questions you don't know the answer to. Law 101
Just like the practical strategy to go about these things with a tact and control, you just cannot open the faucet to see where it goes , thats insane.
Currently the DOJ had NO STRUCTURE to deliver a successful anything. And the reality is the BAR or the National Law is in complete crisis. Prosecutions are way down, because they are collectively way LEFT.
I don't have the answer, but Wayne Allen Roots plan is awesome. We don't have to let Clapper, Comey and Brennan walk, we can still get them to talk to stay alive in the end.
If we pause for a second and ask ourselves a question . . . Gee . . .
What COULD the Deep State / Demonrats possible install in this file, or what could they have done to alter it, or destroy ?
Now we get to the problem, it can't be trusted,
we have records that need to be curated, before release.
THATS why Kash and Bongino were bug eyed, they saw the pile of shit, They all did and don't know what to do, YET.
14 Terrabites would take you months to go through, not a few weekends and some overtime.
Its not over ITS IN LIMBO, STAY PATIENT, PRAY.
I'm not going to get tired of news like this, no sir.
Trump said they messed with the files though. So who knows.
Is this the one that they voted to not release the files? Is this the one they voted on? Wasn’t it like 211-210? Or, is this another one?
I'm guessing the voting will tell us exactly who, from Congress, is on the list?