I have a suggestion. If anyone who wished to stay here who's a Muslim will need to work as a delivery person (Amazon, UPS, pizza delivery for 5 years). They don't like dogs so they need to get used to dogs.
By point exactly. 1st define Islam as a political ideology/movement. Otherwise what would stop our government (in the future) from banning Christianity? Which, by the way, was the exact thing being done by the Roman government in the days of the Apostles & early church.
I remember once I was helping my Arab boss apply for membership in an exclusive London private club. There was a seemingly innocuous question, "Do you have any dogs?"
There is value in and of itself in making this an official position under law.
Also makes the flow of international funding between madrasas more viscous and dry.
There is also value in forcing their shit underground.
Many of the "Muslims" I've known drank freely, petted dogs freely, and really only stayed officially muslim because of not wanted to deal with islamists wanting to kill them for apostasy, especially if they ever had to go to a muslim country. Islam is a like a violent street gang, you want out you get beat out, or more likely stabbed. Sending the people who follow fatwas underground will let muslim-plated not bother with ever putting their kids near a mosque or keeping a quran at home. Eventually they'll just forget their muslim roots.
When an immigrant is naturalized, there is an oath to take. This oath clearly binds the immigrant to the Constitution.
An immigrant can only enter the Us based on a contract with the Federal government. This contract stipulates certain matters, like the object of their stay. Even those who travel into the US, can only do this based on a risk of perjury.
So, there is a mechanism to annul citizenship should an immigrant be acting in a way that violates constitutional provisions: i.e. making war on, protecting, upholding and defending the C from all enemies foreign and domestic ... treason ....
I seem to remember Trump dropped a comment on that a few months back ......
From where I sit, it seems to me this bill looks like window dressing, although it does broach a subject that needs public discourse
sure. They can lie all they want, and do the opposite. It does not change the fact that these people often come from areas where they cannot relinquish their citizenship. So, if that is the case, it should be law that you cannot become an American.
But in cases of obvious fraud, and treason .....
Personally, I have no problem in and of itself with the basic tenents of islam. believing that all is as god wills it ... well ... deus vult. Or, praying 7 times a day, no problem. If they need to pay a religious tax, so be it, provided it does not support terrorism, and an all inclusive too Mecca, I see no problem there. In my view such life's choices are perfectly compatible. And if the idea of Jihad is merely internal, I see no issue there, but I guess you'd have to struggle with yourself if you want to take a literal view of the religious texts.
After all, if the basic tenets have no grounding in the base texts then, why call it pillars? So, these pillars need to be viewed through the lense of their own writings and how they want to apply it.
The problem starts with the view of what Quran says, or the Hadith. It basically is promiscuous, pedosexual, homosexual, thievery by conquest and death, is toxic to both women and men, to humanity actually. It fosters a culture of silence, obedience and compliance. In short: the same bullshit one would expect from Talmudic writings. There is no way to make it symbolic.
Convert has bee tried. Why you think expulsion was the preferred method?
Interestingly, banishing people has been done for centuries. It could be applied to those stealing, etc. These people could be banished for a year, or 100 years.
It was an easy solution, and worked well. Better than prisons.
But since it is declared a human right to settle in a different area of the globe, it has tension with the concept of nation state.
We often hear that nation state is a new phenomenon, and in terms of law, that may be the case. In effect, it has always existed, from the village/town/city level to regions and whole continents. This too has been the idea behind "indentured servitude", where prison sentences could be swapped for "working off a debt to society, in some colony. Of course it was abused for commercial profit.
Compared to galley service (Spain/France for instance) or outright slavery in Turkish and Barbary coast areas, it seemed reasonably mild.
But to clean house, and make the country secure, I guess a exit of not only sharia lovers is needed. Their enablers too.
Yes and if the Democratic Party reaches power again they will define Christianity as a political movement. We need a more stable approach. Banning things that are in sharia law to the point sharia law can never be enacted. The constitution pretty much does this but for some reason no one is regarding it. There really isnt much in Christianity that can be banned as its about personal salvation. Not governing of others.
I struggle with this! I know we have freedom of religion, very important. But I also know Islam is a cancer on the earth. I don't want it here, but freedom of religion? Help me understand!
With an extremely divided sess pool in Congress none of these bills gain traction and even if they do it all amounts to grand standing . Or simply trying Garner votes for the next election. They know it, we know it , but they know how soon people forget or simply don't pay attention.
There are very few true statesmen these days, most just ride coat tails and showboat.
Somewhere along the line the notion that lawyers are the only qualified people to run for office or sit in chambers has completely distorted the basis of common law precedent. For decades, and longer the use of legalese by the lawyers has twisted the meanings and purpose of every bill passed. The titles sound great, but the meat and potatoes of the bills mean just the opposite.
I have a proposal. Any Muslims coming into the country get to eat pork chop right away. If refused, they can go.
If they eat, then the next thing they do, is get a puppy. We take the DNA of the puppy and after 5 years, if the puppy is well care for, they can get citizenship.
Senator Tuberville of Alabama did a great speech on the house floor - no shitβs given. It was awesome!!! Clear as a bell - no Sharia law, no taking over our Country. We will not have it. The former Auburn coach was on point! https://youtu.be/u6obfNsGmz8?si=2g8snOrmXpe0mb1S
I have a suggestion. If anyone who wished to stay here who's a Muslim will need to work as a delivery person (Amazon, UPS, pizza delivery for 5 years). They don't like dogs so they need to get used to dogs.
My dog doesn't like them either. I encourage her barking.
A question, if you don't mind:
Is you're dog a Poodle or a Rottweiler???????
Inquiring minds want to know!!!!πππππππππππππππ
Both are equally dangerous. Poodles were used as guard dogs in France before women started poofing them all up and they became laughing stocks. π
Boxer/American Bulldog. 90 pounds of stay off my deck!!
I have a Rotty mix. You can see the Rotty in him.
Nice.
Hi yes, id like to order a bacon lovers pizza please.
Never heard of it b4.
Great idea!
Agree.
We could also institute a "Happy Bacon Day" and have annual parades where packages of pork and pork products are tossed out to passersby.
Hey great idea. They can stay but every quarter, we have a bacon day and we make them eat it. Otherwise, self deport.
A political ideology masquerading as a religion.
If only the Italian Mafia had thought about this.
By point exactly. 1st define Islam as a political ideology/movement. Otherwise what would stop our government (in the future) from banning Christianity? Which, by the way, was the exact thing being done by the Roman government in the days of the Apostles & early church.
Islam is an international terrorist organization. They condone the violent overthrow of any dissenters.
LOL
I remember once I was helping my Arab boss apply for membership in an exclusive London private club. There was a seemingly innocuous question, "Do you have any dogs?"
You know why they don't like dogs, right?
pray tell
Dogs sense evil.
yes they really do. it's actually crazy how good they are at it.
https://greatawakening.win/p/19BtUaQRv7/have-you-ever-wondered-why-musli/c/
why???
Oh. You have not heard the story about a puppy barking at Muhammad having sex underneath the bed?
I should look up that story for you. LOL
https://greatawakening.win/p/19BtUaQRv7/have-you-ever-wondered-why-musli/c/
While I do like this, its gonna be tough to get it around the whole 'freedom of religion' thing.
Its better to clarify that religions cannot establish and enforce laws instead of our nations laws.
Exactly.
I think that's a good idea.
Taquia or whatever tis called. The muslim hoards just lie cuz that dude they follow said to. So this doesnβt do anything. Nothing does. Kek.
There is value in and of itself in making this an official position under law.
Also makes the flow of international funding between madrasas more viscous and dry.
There is also value in forcing their shit underground.
Many of the "Muslims" I've known drank freely, petted dogs freely, and really only stayed officially muslim because of not wanted to deal with islamists wanting to kill them for apostasy, especially if they ever had to go to a muslim country. Islam is a like a violent street gang, you want out you get beat out, or more likely stabbed. Sending the people who follow fatwas underground will let muslim-plated not bother with ever putting their kids near a mosque or keeping a quran at home. Eventually they'll just forget their muslim roots.
Oh right.
It just seems like these dudes in dc just donβt do a whole lot. I mus be dum or somethin
They were paid off for long time.
When an immigrant is naturalized, there is an oath to take. This oath clearly binds the immigrant to the Constitution.
An immigrant can only enter the Us based on a contract with the Federal government. This contract stipulates certain matters, like the object of their stay. Even those who travel into the US, can only do this based on a risk of perjury.
So, there is a mechanism to annul citizenship should an immigrant be acting in a way that violates constitutional provisions: i.e. making war on, protecting, upholding and defending the C from all enemies foreign and domestic ... treason ....
I seem to remember Trump dropped a comment on that a few months back ......
From where I sit, it seems to me this bill looks like window dressing, although it does broach a subject that needs public discourse
Remember, it's in the Koran, they can lie.
sure. They can lie all they want, and do the opposite. It does not change the fact that these people often come from areas where they cannot relinquish their citizenship. So, if that is the case, it should be law that you cannot become an American. But in cases of obvious fraud, and treason .....
Personally, I have no problem in and of itself with the basic tenents of islam. believing that all is as god wills it ... well ... deus vult. Or, praying 7 times a day, no problem. If they need to pay a religious tax, so be it, provided it does not support terrorism, and an all inclusive too Mecca, I see no problem there. In my view such life's choices are perfectly compatible. And if the idea of Jihad is merely internal, I see no issue there, but I guess you'd have to struggle with yourself if you want to take a literal view of the religious texts.
After all, if the basic tenets have no grounding in the base texts then, why call it pillars? So, these pillars need to be viewed through the lense of their own writings and how they want to apply it.
The problem starts with the view of what Quran says, or the Hadith. It basically is promiscuous, pedosexual, homosexual, thievery by conquest and death, is toxic to both women and men, to humanity actually. It fosters a culture of silence, obedience and compliance. In short: the same bullshit one would expect from Talmudic writings. There is no way to make it symbolic.
So, it is not compatible at all.
Convert them or they don't stay.
Convert has bee tried. Why you think expulsion was the preferred method?
Interestingly, banishing people has been done for centuries. It could be applied to those stealing, etc. These people could be banished for a year, or 100 years.
It was an easy solution, and worked well. Better than prisons.
But since it is declared a human right to settle in a different area of the globe, it has tension with the concept of nation state.
We often hear that nation state is a new phenomenon, and in terms of law, that may be the case. In effect, it has always existed, from the village/town/city level to regions and whole continents. This too has been the idea behind "indentured servitude", where prison sentences could be swapped for "working off a debt to society, in some colony. Of course it was abused for commercial profit.
Compared to galley service (Spain/France for instance) or outright slavery in Turkish and Barbary coast areas, it seemed reasonably mild.
But to clean house, and make the country secure, I guess a exit of not only sharia lovers is needed. Their enablers too.
The unfortunate thing is, the enablers are foreign entities. Like the UK situation.
This is good but I think the 1st step would be to define Islam as a political movement and not a religion.
Yes and if the Democratic Party reaches power again they will define Christianity as a political movement. We need a more stable approach. Banning things that are in sharia law to the point sharia law can never be enacted. The constitution pretty much does this but for some reason no one is regarding it. There really isnt much in Christianity that can be banned as its about personal salvation. Not governing of others.
Yes. I hope to see that.
I struggle with this! I know we have freedom of religion, very important. But I also know Islam is a cancer on the earth. I don't want it here, but freedom of religion? Help me understand!
I asked the same question. Islam is not a religion, but it is a political system veiled as a religion.
You do not see the invasion by Wiccan or Buddhism, right?
Thereβs been an increase in Hindu and Buddhist as well. Not as concerned about it, though I donβt like it.
They don't invade.
Interesting take!
Those are not political systems.
If the Democratic Party takes power again what do you think they will do with this new found standard.
With an extremely divided sess pool in Congress none of these bills gain traction and even if they do it all amounts to grand standing . Or simply trying Garner votes for the next election. They know it, we know it , but they know how soon people forget or simply don't pay attention.
There are very few true statesmen these days, most just ride coat tails and showboat.
Somewhere along the line the notion that lawyers are the only qualified people to run for office or sit in chambers has completely distorted the basis of common law precedent. For decades, and longer the use of legalese by the lawyers has twisted the meanings and purpose of every bill passed. The titles sound great, but the meat and potatoes of the bills mean just the opposite.
We hold these truths to be self evident !
To clean the "sess pool" we need a " Gingrich" not a weak "afraid of his own shadow" Johnson.
Preach! Amen
We need to see the common people get into offices so there's some common sense.
You can have AI read the bill and summarize for you now. Better yet, one item bill. No longer than 10 pages.
Can they also boot out the Muslims in Michigan and take their Call to Worship with them? Sickening to know what those citizens are going through.
That's noise pollution and its already illegal. Idk why they haven't gone and shot out all the speakers.
I cannot believe they are that blatant.
They will try to make every country a Muslim country. Look at Europe.
Of course.
Entering or staying. The minite ot is doscovered tjey are forcing people to practice sharia hey get the boot.
I have a proposal. Any Muslims coming into the country get to eat pork chop right away. If refused, they can go.
If they eat, then the next thing they do, is get a puppy. We take the DNA of the puppy and after 5 years, if the puppy is well care for, they can get citizenship.
Yes.
This could result in most Muslims self deporting
Sure hope so.
Will this law prevent Mamdani from using Sharia law? Pray for NYC.
I will pray.
Can we do Satanism next? They have opened abortion clinics and junk like that already. Not to mention lobbyist.
You mean like church of Satan? Unfortunately, if they don't have a church, they go underground.
If enforced, this law would save America!!!
Amen.
Senator Tuberville of Alabama did a great speech on the house floor - no shitβs given. It was awesome!!! Clear as a bell - no Sharia law, no taking over our Country. We will not have it. The former Auburn coach was on point! https://youtu.be/u6obfNsGmz8?si=2g8snOrmXpe0mb1S
He is a good one.
Is this weekend the Democrat retreat?
They should ram this bill right through while all the same are hobnobbing away and the ones that didn't get invited are pissy about it.
https://twitter.com/FFT1776/status/1976958837073887676
Do it while the Demonrats are partying.