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DeathRayDesigner 5 points ago +5 / -0

Atrocities have already been committed...by Hamas. Genocide against the Jews has always been their policy. It would only take contrived images to fan the flames of adverse opinion...and the world has generally been against Israel. There wouldn't have been a fight without the Hamas attack, so where it may go is on their heads.

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DeathRayDesigner 2 points ago +2 / -0

Agreed. Biden is like an incompetent bike rider who is always running into people. Makes the people pissed off and reactive. My impression is that German Shepherds don't take mental stress very well. Very important to provide them a stable and equable psychological environment. Always true of any animal, but German Shepherds are inclined to be at a higher nervous level than, say, a golden retriever. Now, if the Bidens had chihuahuas, there might be hell to pay.

I love dogs, but I've only ever had a half-dachshund (decades ago) and a large Pomeranian (incomparably happy dog). Is what I'm saying sensible?

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DeathRayDesigner 2 points ago +2 / -0

Photographs of the dead in mass graves, with Army and civilian witnesses? Gas chambers, and purchase receipts for Zyklon B? No physical evidence? Don't be absurd.

When people die by droves and are buried within the camp perimeters, yes, they are death camps. What else can you call them? The survivors attest to the systematic executions, of people that they knew.

I'm not interested in any "conversation" that omits or evades the evidence. That is simple dishonesty.

There were no "scenarios." There was only what happened, and it may be that the Nazis were not the worse evil---but bad enough that if our choice was to eliminate it or not, doing so was the right thing to do. The Soviet Union was likely a worse evil, in terms of sheer numbers, but too vast an adversary to fight.

What kind of society was the Nazi Reich and what values were they fighting for? Total conformism, and perfectionist regulation. Individual subordination to "racial" goals and objectives. No action, public or private, that was not under the regime of the Party. Utter disregard and dismissal of "non-Aryan" people. A totally mechanistic view of morality and human life, endorsing sterilization, mercy killing, and arranged marriages. The arrogance, conceit, and racism of being a Master Race. The willingness to die like a fanatic for the furtherance of "lebensraum." I've read a lot about the Third Reich, and I have no sentiment for it at all.

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DeathRayDesigner 2 points ago +2 / -0

No problems with either one. Or do you believe that only the ones in death camps were killed? Millions were executed by special troops in the battlefields of eastern Europe and western Russia. Somehow, during the same period of time, the Axis powers killed over 60 million civilian and military. Seems to have been in the realm of the possible. The Final Solution did indeed compete for resources toward the end of the war, which was a concern for people like Goebbels and Himmler. This was all gone into in detail by the Nuremberg and death camp trials.

Otherwise, what were the death camps for? Tiddlywink competitions?

To answer your rhetorical question, this was the only "good ending" available to us. It came sooner, rather than later. Had it come later, it would have used atom bombs to conclude.

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DeathRayDesigner 3 points ago +3 / -0

Honestly, Billy Bob Thornton is more handsome. I would suggest Brad Dourif after a hangover.

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DeathRayDesigner 3 points ago +3 / -0

Scalise has the distinction of being the survivor of a Democrat assassination attempt. I think he would have proper circumspection dealing with the House minority (and maybe an elephant's memory).

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DeathRayDesigner 2 points ago +2 / -0

Came and went like an electronic fart, about as menacing and about as useful.

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DeathRayDesigner 2 points ago +2 / -0

I agree. Trump has never floated this idea, to my knowledge. It has all been a Fan Favorite Fancy of the Q-followership, which gives it low credibility. Too many of us get addicted to so much hopium, we insist that the world must conform.

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DeathRayDesigner 2 points ago +2 / -0

Roughly speaking, Moscow is about 10 hours ahead of the U.S. west coast, so it could all have happened today.

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DeathRayDesigner 2 points ago +2 / -0

You think in terms of package deals, not event by event. Everything must be explained to your satisfaction. Well, WTC7 caught fire, burned for a prolonged time in the core, which first collapsed, and then the outer walls followed suit. It's explainable, but you seem to think you know better than the experts (if we are to point to experts). And then you get off into fantasy land about non-existent airplanes and unlimited resources. I work in the aerospace industry; there are no "unlimited" resources (as Ukraine is finding out the hard way).

You also have no skills in logic. I've been to Africa. I haven't seen zebras or elephants. By your logic, they don't exist and are only narrative creations. The people who don't see things---haven't seen things. It does not refute the existence of things that are uncovered after the debris is sifted, including such things as you mentioned (specifically an engine turbine disk), which can be easily found after a few minutes of internet searching. The people who see nothing have no evidence of anything. The people who have seen something have evidence. This is a very elementary point about logical proof, yet you seem to be not only ignorant of it, but hostile to it. It is the basis of the scientific method (and yet you call me a fool).

You also seem to think that posing challenge questions are a method of refutation ("How do you explain...?"). Questions are only proof of ignorance. If there is an alternative explanation, you get to come up with the evidence that it is true and credible. If you are so concerned about the answer, ask the government. Maybe they will give you an answer, maybe not. But as someone who worked at a government-certified secure facility, I can tell you with some confidence that the location, nature, and capability of surveillance equipment is not exposed to the public. I would venture to say that ALL video surveillance records are kept as classified material. 9/11 simply fits into this standard.

Your experience flying jet aircraft does not seem to acquaint you with the extremes of aircraft performance. There was, for example, the 1979 flight of TWA Flight 841 over Michigan, which got into a spiral dive that exceeded the Mach limit of the airframe. The aircraft survived, albeit with permanent structural deformation. A 757 at 550 mph is nowhere near the speed of sound at 767 mph. I don't read that image as showing the distance covered in the frame to be much more than the aircraft length of 155 feet. There is every indication it was in a shallow dive, as the wing would have been at least 10 feet above ground level to clip the streetlight. There is also the presence of the ground effect, which becomes stronger as the aircraft nears the ground. (So strong, in fact, the the first flight of the U-2 had an interesting dilemma because it couldn't land. The ground effect prevented the plane from touching ground. They had to kill the lift by manipulating the control surfaces.) If you are flying into a ground effect environment that will buffer the effect of a dive, the event becomes understandable. 550 mph is 897 feet per second, which is 300 yards in one second. If the pilot set up a reasonable glide path (point the nose), he would have had essentially no time to make an error. And we don't know that these terrorists were not ex-military pilots that may have trained in fighters or transport aircraft, and only needed classwork in the U.S. to spruce up their familiarization. But don't lecture me about letting my imagination carry me away---you are the shining example of that. I tell you who I believe...I believe the pilots that fly 757s and the feedback that filters through the manufacturing and ex-military community at Boeing. Since 9/11, I have never heard of the pilots' union saying Flight 77 was impossible, nor have I heard any scuttlebutt within Boeing that it was technically impossible. Not for the 15 years prior to my retirement. So, I think you are talking outside your expertise.

There's more to an airplane than a tube (e.g., the main deck) and more to forcing structure than dimensions alone. The airplane was fully loaded, and amounted to a projectile weighing 84,000 pounds at a speed of 550 mph, with a cross-sectional area of, say, 144 square feet. So imagine a weight having the frontal area of a small kitchen, weighing 42 tons, falling from a height of 2 1/3 miles. Yeah, I think it would smash through concrete curtain walls and some interior columns. Not and stay together, of course, which is where people go wrong in their thinking. High winds or rushing flood currents can rapidly destroy major structure, and there is nothing solid about air or water. It is about momentum, more than about material strength. As for the engines, they were most likely ripped off the wings by the ground and/or the Pentagon foundation in the final approach (they were about 6 feet lower than the ventral line of the fuselage), and then covered and crushed by the building debris. Parts of them were found.

You could go on---but then I would have to go on---and on---clearing up your misunderstandings. If you think an AI/bot could write like me, prove it. Just one more fanciful idea. I "believe" in facts, and so far the facts are clear. You are the one who refuses to accept facts---because they are discordant with your premise that the government only lies. You don't know this at all. You assume it, and you construct fantasies about it. You don't have any positive evidence of an alternative truth, and you ignore the evidence that exists, or misinterpret it in order to have your fantasy. It is tiresome. And bizarre, because it seems you think it is WORSE for the government to have created a hoax in which no one was killed---than there to have been an air piracy that killed 189 people.

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DeathRayDesigner 2 points ago +2 / -0

I can't understand the level of ignorance and denial about simple history. The Jews were dragged off to death camps by the millions, if not executed in the fields of war. To call them "collateral damage" is nothing more than a denial of their humanity.

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DeathRayDesigner 2 points ago +2 / -0

The only German who attained high organizational standing in NASA was von Braun, who was kicked upstairs with nothing to do and eventually resigned for health reasons (cancer). Once he was removed from the Marshall Space Flight Center upon his promotion, his Peenemunde team were all sacked.

I don't have anything to say about the OSS/CIA, but if your image of history is equally reliable, it isn't much to crow about.

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DeathRayDesigner 2 points ago +2 / -0

And what is there to look at, pray tell? I think only one of the Paperclip rocket engineers was an ideological Nazi. The rest were subject to compelled membership, and were originally working for the German Army. Their influence in America was entirely technical, and once von Braun was kicked upstairs, NASA top brass had his entire Peenemunde team sacked. (Too envious of their prestige.)

No "Nazis" in NASA for at least half a century. Just the occasional nitwit or corrupt "climate scientist."

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DeathRayDesigner 3 points ago +3 / -0

To borrow the British phrase, I am "gobsmacked" (sound of mackerel slapped across face). Or, to quote Anthony Hopkins in "Red 2" (2013), "I didn't see that one coming."

Edit: Somehow this teleported from the post that announced McCarthy's removal. I don't know how it ended up here.

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DeathRayDesigner 4 points ago +4 / -0

Either I've seen this before, or he did the same thing in a different deposition. What I admire about Trump is his ability to follow the right strategy with iron discipline. How many other people would eventually be worn down and start to give answers?

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DeathRayDesigner 2 points ago +2 / -0

Just be cautious. There was nothing ideologically that the Nazi Party did to help anything. (Read up on the Sturmabteilung---the SA---which was a gang of Nazi thugs so violent and uncontrollable that Hitler had them all executed in the Night of the Long Knives, turning their functions over to the more discreet SS.) Many of the "good ideas" were sheer opportunism and adoption of ideas from some gifted people (e.g., the autobahn, the volkswagen). The real "economic miracle" was post-war, when Germany---utterly demolished by allied air raids---built itself back up to pre-eminence in Europe in less than 10 years. It was a textbook competition between the free market and FDR's welfare policies.

There were good people in Germany. There were very few "good people" in the Nazi government, in the nature of things. Plenty of functionaries to regulate the actions of others. The case of Albert Speer is illustrative: highly talented as to architecture and project organization, high intellect, but surviving in an environment of dubious morality.

But it is quite seriously mistaken to think that "the ones with most of the power were idiots of some form or another." It is so mistaken, I would deem it a crippling stroke of dishonesty. Read about them, and read what they have to say. To an impressive degree, they were capable of exceedingly clear thought and of solving complex problems. I'm talking about Hitler, Goebbels, Speer, Fritz Todt, Himmler, Goering, and the like. They were capable of exceptional things---including exceptional evil. We pamper our egos by thinking they were all crazy or stupid, but that is because we are afraid to look closely. It is more concerning to me to think that brilliant people could be our enemies, because it is a reproach against intelligence and a reminder that what we do is answerable to God.

In any case, more power to you.

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DeathRayDesigner 7 points ago +7 / -0

Just read. "Mein Kampf" and Hitler's second book seem to be seldom read, but reading them gives interesting insight into his personality and long-term vision. None of which has much to do with Christianity, by the way. His regard for Christianity was strictly as a useful means to condition popular psychology. At one point, he speculated that Islam might have been a better religion for a fighting people. At least Muslims hated the right people (Jews).

The Germany of that day was imbued with Darwinism and the logic of mercy killing and eugenics, which was fully reflected in Nazi policies toward medical care and family life. Not to mention toward the Jews, the Gypsies, and the physically and mentally infirm.

It was also a time when the public was confronted with a choice between international communism (reflected in the Weimar revolution) and national socialism (the Nazi Party). Everyone was afflicted with horror of Boshevism as seen from what happened in Russia, and the Nazis were the only party opposed to it (from considerations purely of power politics).

The picture is clouded by the fact that once the Nazi Party came into power, it essentially made membership mandatory for everyone, through requirements that no one could ply a trade without being a member of the Nazi party. All labor unions were folded into the Party structure. So, everyone became a Party member, and many did so out of survival pragmatism, not conviction. Thus, in post-war times, to call a person a "Nazi" had about as much meaning as calling them a "German," and that seemed to be a comfortable bigotry for scores of years. (I am a quarter German, and I noticed the anti-German bigotry when I was growing up.)

But the Nazi reich also engendered projects and agencies that were unremittingly evil, the Final Solution and the SS. People who volunteered for service in the SS either desired the power to act without hindrance, or were simply moral vacuums (or both). Some people were dragooned into the SS in order to make them subservient to Heinrich Himmler, who had his own ideas about how the world should be arranged. They had no choice in the matter, but no one was stupid enough to think they could resist and live. Everyone around Hitler reacted toward Himmler like he was radioactive and not safe to be around (they were correct).

There is a remarkable history of Hitler's ascent to power by Konrad Heiden, "The Fuhrer" (1944). He documents the chaotic trajectory that was taken and the flukes of fortune that Hitler rode to power.

There was nothing good in the Nazi ideology. Whatever good there was, came from Germans being good Germans---not from Nazis being true Nazis. It swept up some brilliant individuals, but they were still human beings, and mainly reflective of the high intellectual level...and survival psychology...that prevailed in the Germany of the day. Impressive things were done all around. Impressive achievements...and impressive devastation.

Those who want to find something inherently good in Nazism are simply trying to put a dress over their abiding anti-Semitism. If you agree with Hitler about the Jews, then that is all there is for you---and that is all that you are. It is disgusting to see such sympathies in this venue. It finds imaginary ways to deny the mass murders committed, either domestically or through wars of conquest. This is a squeamishness that a true Nazi would scorn. The SS was proud of what it did. Any recanting to post-war tribunals was simple cravenness. The true believers took poison.

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DeathRayDesigner 3 points ago +3 / -0

Correct. It heats up the atmosphere, which then expands to a higher altitude. You seem to be the only one here who is talking sense.

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DeathRayDesigner 3 points ago +3 / -0

At this point, all I can say is "the proof of the pudding is in the eating." Let's see what happens.

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DeathRayDesigner 4 points ago +4 / -0

Very serious. Somewhat difficult to follow, owing to his accent and the characteristic use of church nomenclature (odd to Protestant ears), but he had a telling observation: that the victims of a comprehensive corruption are powerless to rectify that corruption from within. I am not a Catholic, but I do not wish the destruction of the Church of Rome. He points us to Christ as our only guide into the future, which is proper and wise. As "LoveHim" prays so eloquently below, we can only also pray to God that He will intervene to defend a church now in the hands of enemies.

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DeathRayDesigner 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yeah, the photo is a file photo, but the situation is real. According to some Telegram channels, the Russians have advertised a radio frequency on which any Ukrainian unit can surrender, and apparently thousands have taken the option. The main prompting seems to be that they regard it as the only way their wounded will get medical attention and not die on the battlefield, since the Ukrainian forces will not evacuate the wounded.

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