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Dee68 2 points ago +2 / -0

OK. Makes sense.

One of the things that I do with my ultra-lib BIL that I have found kinda works is just asking a question to get him to question like "I wonder why the article didn't mention X". At which point he stops and considers and then admits he doesn't know. At this point I consider it a success.

Or with my liberal SIL, I will say something like "I heard a news report about a school district in So. CA that did not want parents on the zoom calls. I wonder why. Is that happening for your son?" She responds. Then I'd say something like, if it were happening with my kid, I'd be so pissed. There shouldn't be anything said in the classroom I should not hear, etc.

If she tries to defend the school, she will need to back up the defense with research. In my specific case, she had not heard the report AND it wasn't happening in my nephews school district. So, my words/opinions got to be the first imprint on her.

In the example, you mention, is the vaxx tested. Back up one more level where she doesnt have to research - ask her what's the emergency?

EAU (fact) for #of deaths/#of cases (factual calculation). Use Google numbers for this. Say, I don't get it. What's the emergency? I'd take these odds in Vegas.

Then let the subject drop.

She now needs to pick it up (or not) and convince you that it is an emergency. Her walking through the msm narrative should lead her to a point where she begins to realize that the narrative doesn't make sense.

It's kinda like having someone defend the "magic bullet theory". At some point rational thought breaks in and one cannot explain bullet trajectory u-turns and elevation level changes mid-flight.

It's basic level questioning which can be maddening. But, if she has been trusting somewhat, you first need to get her to question. And then explain it to you how what she believes can be so. She will end up teaching herself.

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Dee68 0 points ago +1 / -1

Great point.

Either he was controlled opposition, or acknowledging there was a powerful deep state was just a bridge too far for him.

While I do miss him, I am thankful he does not have to witness what is happening.

I am not sure that his voice during this time would help the awakening. I think it might lull us back to sleep or cause us to fall back into old patterns.

Congrats on you being awake in '97. I had pieces then, but in other areas I was still asleep.

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Dee68 2 points ago +2 / -0

Wife here.

First of all, be thankful for the compatibility in political views.

Secondly, are you trying to "tell" her what to believe or think? In which case, she is left with either having to accept it as truth (which might be too much too soon) or doing the "OK, _______" as a defense.

If this resonates with you, try this. Hey, honey, listen to this. Then relate the news article. Then ask, what do you think? Listen and consider what she is stating. Then, follow it up by asking why. See it from her pov.

Next, you get to share what you think and why. What is your rationale for believing/disbelieving the article? Choose supporting rationale that you both agree upon where ever possible (e.g. corruption in politics) so that she can see your line of thinking.

Bring her into your world of thought.

The important part is you are doing this together.

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Dee68 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yes. Snake oil. This is exactly what I was getting at in one of my posts where I mention that obtaining treatment is like a wild west landscape!

MCAS. I remember a book that talked about a protocol for it for people with sensitivity. It is called Toxic by Dr. Nathan. It deals with mold, Lyme, mcas, etc. It sounds like you have a great doc and something that is working. I only mention it because you might be able to glean a bit from it.

Herxing. That one would always catch me off guard. Always. For what ever reason I would always think that it would react as flu like symptoms. BUT because it had colonized in my CNS, of course I would get brain inflamation, which would in turn manifest itself as servere depression and suicide ideation. Thankfully my husband started to recognize what was happening. CBD oil would help at this point as I would relearn once again.

It sounds like herxing gets life threatening for you. I am sorry.

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Dee68 2 points ago +2 / -0

You are welcome. Healing Lyme, 2nd edition is the book I mainly used. Tons of case studies in the back appendix.

He also addressed Corona virus in one of his other books years before the world freaked out and remarketed (or souped up via gain-of-function) cold/flu as covid.

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Dee68 3 points ago +3 / -0

I am so happy for her. 😊

Astragalus is mentioned in Buhner's Healing Lyme. I think I even have it as a tincture, but I only needed to use it occasionally.

Before I took ivm, I got great relief from gou teng, ashwaganda, Japanese knotweed, and cryptolepus.

Buhner's work has introduced me to a whole new world of tinctures and supplements. Most can be applied across ailments - of which Lyme is only a subset.

I agree with you about the suspicious coincidences.

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Dee68 2 points ago +2 / -0

Thanks. Glad you caught yours early. 🙂

Growing up in northern Wisconsin, it was very common to be bitten by ticks every summer. Not as plentiful as mosquitoes, but very common.

Typically, one would just pick the tick off and burn it with a match to kill it. (Why this treatment idk, it's just what we did.)

Never had a bullseye rash. Never felt I was just going to take my chances and play Russian roulette with my life either.

As an analogy, West Nile and malria supposedly are transmitted by mosquitoes, but I do not run off to the doctor everytime I get a mosquito bite. Just swat/kill it and move on. That's what it's like with ticks.

With Gates' franken-mosquitoes maybe that will need to change.

I'm not sure if I had even heard of Lyme until I was in my thirties - late 90s.

Now I keep a stash of doxy, hcq, and ivermectin in my medicine cabinet.

Take care, fren.

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Dee68 4 points ago +4 / -0

I was thinking the same thing about refreshing infected ticks. Kinda like chemtrails.

Here's the thing, not all Lymies manifest the classic bullseye rash. I did not. In fact, I went in to the doctor in December. I told her that I don't think that the way I am experiencing certain events reflects reality. Her eyes flashed open and she asked, "Do I need to check you for ticks?"

Given that it was December in MN, I knew she wasn't talking about a physical tick check. She asked if I have ever been bit. Yes, multiple times, every year. I don't name the ticks or even remember each and every one, but I have never gotten a bullseye rash. That I would remember.

New thought: Is it possible to spread it without ticks in addition to ticks???

My blood test was positive for antibodies.

Shortly after my first course of antibiotics wore off, the symptoms came back. She said she could not prescribe more antibiotics because it would put her medical license in jeopardy with the cdc!! (WTF?!?! I was a normie in terms of trusting the medical establishment alphabet.) I trusted my doc and she seemed legit scared. Said my best bet was supplements and pointed me to Buhner's work.

Then COVID lockdown hit, but I had already been red-pilled by the Lyme experience. It's the saving grace.

Ivermectin did the trick for me a year later (research lag). Most of the Lyme issues are completely gone, but I think parts of my brain have not fully healed. Word recall and spelling still being affected.

Spanish flu. Doctors in India were treating with the supplement andrographis and having success. Buhner recommends it for Lyme and there was a run on it during initial covid lockdown.

I think experimenting on us has been going on for quite some time. It did not start with COVID vaxx. Biggest hurdle I think is distribution. Vaccine for 1918, covid. Fluoride in the water.

Seige warfare teaches us many techniques. Contaminated water sources, plague infected solders/cattle. I suppose rats, too. Chinese and Indians (feather) would dip arrows in feces of plague victims. Fire.

The change in our perspective is that the government now sees us as the enemy.

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Dee68 11 points ago +11 / -0

Lymie here.

There is a crap-ton of question and confusion surrounding this.

What I know, CDC and IDSA should not be trusted - Tuskegee experiment and COVID should have taught us this. They are incestuous in their "research". See history and the documentary " Under Our Skin".

Many of the scientists involved were Japanese and German WWII. Klaus Traub was operation paperclip. (Bitten, Newby) He hired W. Burgdorferi whose job it was to infect ticks for the U.S.

The Japanese scientists were doing this in WWII. This is covered in the documentary "Under the Eightball".

The question about effectiveness is interesting. These scientists were doing it in WWII and then continued well after (Bitten, Newby). The American government dropped/released boxes of infected ticks from a plane flying over the sugar plantations in Cuba to weaken workers. BUT they (ticks) were already infected!!

Lyme can take on many forms depending where it colonizes in the body. (MN Lyme Association). We have mostly heard about how it colonized so that it mimics rheumatoid arthritis. BUT, it can colonize so that the person gets heart, digestive, or CNS issues among others. (Was actually told by a non-medical family member I did not have lyme because I did not have RA symptoms- this was after a positive test result!!). Clinical diagnosis pointed to my CNS.

The Lyme test will only show positive for antibodies. Where it is colonizing is clinical diagnosis only which depends on symptoms being manifested. No advancement in testing has been done in over 40+ years. My understanding is that the blood test is less effective that the covid PCR (eyeroll) and there are over 50% false negatives. Raises a question for me as to why this poor performance is allowed.

CDC allows multiple refills on antibiotics for acne and lifelong antibiotic treatment for syphilis, but you only get one course of antibiotics for Lyme - supposedly for superbug containment. See "Under Our Skin" and draw your own conclusions.

After the course of antibiotics is complete, Lymies need to seek further treatment through Lyme literate doctors and clinics. It can be a bit of the wild west in this landscape.

Interesting note - My Lyme CNS symptoms resemble covid vaxx symptoms of brain fog, rage, panic attacks, cognitive difficulties, etc. NOT clot however.

Is the transmission narrative about deer and other infected animals just b.s.? IDK. It would not surprise me. It would explain how the infected ticks got all over the US instead of staying localized near Plum Island. Especially since we know the government attacked us with the covid/covid vaxx.

Healing Lyme (Buhner) was helpful for supplements. It is a really good resource for being your own doctor. Ivermectin made the difference for me.

Including u/tweety51A since you have family here.

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Dee68 2 points ago +2 / -0

I'm glad you shared it. Ty.

Something else, and this came from the RFKJ interview on Tucker. (Good interview BTW) They were discussing releasing all the JFK assassination papers. Everybody involved with it is now dead, so what is being protected? An American Institution.

Again, curious.

What did Mike Pompeo say to Trump to get him to back off and not release all papers?

And later, RFKJ just off-handedly mentions he was having dinner with Pompeo 🤯 and that Pompeo told him he regretted not doing MORE when he was at the CIA. That most of the people at the top of the CIA do not believe in America.

Not surprising about the CIA. But, what the heck is going on?

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Dee68 1 point ago +1 / -0

Hold up a second Bigmike.

This is curious.

Was watching a documentary last weekend on Prime about JFK - solving the crime of the century.

In it, they had a Hollywood special effects guy talking about how JFK had faked his death by placing a "squib" (?? special effects device) on the side of his face, Jackie pulled the string for it, and then retrieved part of the device that flew off on to the trunk.

You see something on the Zupruder film, but honestly it could have been just shadows.

In the documentary, Hollywood guy seemed to be an apologist for the Warren commission (they looked at all the evidence, but didn't know about squibs. They did their job). Seemed like b.s. propaganda and I was ticked about time wasted watching this.

Now this document comes out about JFK and suspiciously leads one to conclude that he was faking his death.

Two separate items stating JFK faked his death.

Please don't read this as me casting aspersions on you, I'm not. I've always found you to be a straight shooter.

I find the timing curious. Is the source material being tampered with?

Documentary was released in 2023.

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Dee68 2 points ago +2 / -0

Misguided is right. The demon's are not looking for believers, but places a.k.a. people to inhabit.

They do not even know enough that this is the equivalent of lighting matches around open containers of gasoline.

Frightening.

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Dee68 1 point ago +1 / -0

Your story resonates with me. Thank you for sharing this.

Right before covid, I was diagnosed with Lyme. Took the course of antibiotics, as the half life wore off and the symptoms came back, I thought the doctor would just re-up the prescription.

No. The doctor told me she could lose her med license because of the CDC if she did!! She believed it and I believe her. She told me to research supplements.

Then covid lock down hit.

It was my red pill. It gave me the courage, confidence, and determination to become my own doctor.

FYI. It is well known in the Lyme community that the lymie will end up knowing more than most doctors on this subject.

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Dee68 2 points ago +2 / -0

Who is Q? Got a picture of him or her? What exactly is the plan? How many tasks or objectives have been completed and how many left to go?

The answers to these questions are unknown.

Therefore, why would you quote as a worshipping mantra words like "you and your families are safe" and then sit back and gorge on popcorn?

Common sense should kick in at some point.

YOU need to take responsibility for you and yours. Expecting the government and/or Q and/or Trump to carry the load that is yours to carry is misguided. It is magical thinking.

We are at war.

Willfully ignoring reality. Ignoring what your eyes and ears tell you. Not THINKING and choosing instead to blindly trust and stop up your ears because "Q said we are safe" is just as egregious as freaking out and running around as a chicken with your head chopped off.

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Dee68 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yes. My understanding of the "official" narrative is Obama is their father.

But, given Stanley Ann's reported promiscuity, I think that is a ruse. Who knows who his actual father is. It could go a long way toward explaining Malik's contempt if his family was being used as cover for Barak.

It is just sad and sick.

If BHO wants to have big Mike as his "wife" and doesn't know who his daddy is, just come out and say it.

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Dee68 3 points ago +3 / -0

What makes you think that they are kin?

Frank Marshall Davis and this Subud (?) cult guy are both allegedly daddy candidates along with Obama.

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Dee68 10 points ago +10 / -0

Flustered. Is this because you are realizing you sold your immortal soul for something as common as meaningless money and a little bit of fame?

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Dee68 3 points ago +3 / -0

This is a scene from The Greatest Showman.

The "freaks" in the Barnum circus are expressing through song that they have worth and value despite being born differently. The lead singer in the scene is the "bearded lady".

It's a pretty good movie.

Given today's love of self mutilation, trans, and goofy attention-getting antics, I can see how this scene seems like the latest Macy's advert.

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Dee68 2 points ago +2 / -0

My dentist's office asked for my ssn.

Why do you need that I asked.

Flustered, the receptionist said we need it for the billing.

No, you don't I told her. I will be paying in full before I leave today.

They never asked again.

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Dee68 3 points ago +3 / -0

Why isn't Jill wearing one of her ugly shower-curtian-tablecloth-upholstery trademark dresses? Seems a little uppity.

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Dee68 2 points ago +3 / -1

It's a nothing burger.

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Dee68 2 points ago +2 / -0

Interesting perspective. It's a flip of how I've been seeing this.

Usually in a sexual abuse situation, say the moms boyfriend with the daughter, the daughter will make herself unattractive. Weight gain, unwashed face - pimply and greasy hair, etc.

But there are times where the home life is not sexually but verbally abusive or she is shoved aside due to 2nd marriage & kids from wife #2 being higher in priority. Your take totally fits.

I will ponder. Ty.

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Dee68 2 points ago +2 / -0

No worries, fren.

I agree with you. I see this a lot but kinda in reverse - our guy/gal can do no wrong and a blind eye is turned to what should be called out.

When we do this, we become hypocrites.

I get why you are hesitant.

FWIW, I am trying to move myself into questioning my judgement less. Time and again I have found that my initial call, insight, perception, whatever to be dead on, but I have been cowed by someone(s) making a reasonable call to logic and alternative considerations because no one wants to be unfair and closed minded. I think this very reasonableness is one of the tactics used against us to confuse and slow us down. On a spiritual level, we become so confused that we start calling evil good and good evil or can't call out evil for what it is.

I am working on trusting my first instinct.

Which is probably why I got a bit defensive. Sorry. Please forgive me.

Please don't read any of the above as me thinking I'm never wrong or don't make mistakes. I do. I'm fallible. The above is meant to be more in line with the books - Gift of Fear; or Blink.

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