Before you can know the truth, you have to look at the lies.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009%E2%80%9311_Toyota_vehicle_recalls
From 2007 to now Toyota manufactured vehicles with electronic ignition, electronic brakes, electronic starting, electronic steering and electronic acceleration. In other words, there was no physical, mechanical failsafe for the control of the vehicles.
Time and time again they tried to blame it on something mechanical going on. Floor mats? No. A metal pin missing under the dash? No.
Here's the truth: they turned to a completely electronic control system and the damned things would wig out, the computer would lock all input from the user, and then max out the acceleration (pedal to the floor).
Grandma would be in a ride to hell in 6 seconds flat.
You might think "Oh, I'll just use the brakes!" Nope... They are electronic too.
"I'll just use the emergency brakes!" Nope... Discontinued.
"Oh! I'll take the key out of the ignition! Can't run without the key" Nope... You wanted the push-to-start, it is all electronic. Key in hand, the car is still in a death spiral.
"Well, shit... Here comes a wall..."
And then began the long string of out-of-court settlements paying off families to keep quiet about their loved ones dying in crashes exceeding 120 mph.
Now, what if that was just the trial runs for a new technology? What if they DeepState were simply introducing a new way to cut whistleblower's lives short? It would be quite easy to explain away as an accident. No proof, either, because the computer would most certainly be wrecked beyond function.
More cars than ever are running all-electronic systems. It is cheaper and more corruptible. You want your AI controlled driver? Well, be prepared to go to work every day knowing someone can press your ticket at the push of a button.
Dig deep. People have died. They continue to do so. Nothing new here. Just another distraction from the real news.
Michael Hastings and Paul Walker were both killed this way
They were in a Porsche Carerra GT, a car that was already notoriously difficult to master and easy to screw up with.
The guy driving Paul was a professional driver
I agree. You can add the 80s era Grand National to that list of death traps. Some cars the only skill you need to drive them is knowing not to push them because its just too powerful or too much power for its suspension/brakes etc. I once watched a guy showing off almost wreck a Viper in a parking lot. Although he was an idiot.
Grand Nasty. Those are awesome.
Back in the 80s(well prob early 90s really) I met a guy that owned a GN. He drove me around the block. Basically he just did a 0-80 run to knock the breath out of me for fun. A few months later he rolled it over like 20 times doing 100+ on the interstate and spent months in the hospital, almost died. The friend that I met him through told me all about what happened. He was just showing off. Luckily he didn't have a passenger.
The funny part is they are super rare these days... because they've all been wrecked.
Its also one of the best handling cars ever made.
You’re arguing pretty hard for this. While I’m sure what you’re saying about remote controlling cars to assassinate people is possible, what makes you think it’s likely in this case? Do we know something about Paul Walker that would have made him a target? Are you basing your entire assumption that he was assassinated based off of the fact that the driver at the time was a professional and couldn’t have possibly made that mistake?
Never
It is my understanding that Rodas (the driver) did race in a professional series, but he was an "arrive and drive" driver who paid to be doing it. In other words, no one was praying him for his driving skill. Many racing series have arrive and drive pilots. I'm not saying he was unskilled, but what's that line from Topgun about egos writing checks their body can't cash? I think that might appliy here. I'm not saying it wasn't a setup. But to say this guy could not have screwed up because he was a "pro" is overstating it.
There is video of the car exploding. A black tinted window van shortly arrives on the scene as if it was trailing him. I will link it later.
Fascinating.
yes this and they wanted you to think the MOTOR fell out
Hastings was in a Mercedes I thought
It was the tires. Extremely low mileage car, but old. Well kept. Immaculate. The tires looked amazing. Full tread. But they were 9 years old. That unique compounds in these high performance tires break down. Especially that tire, designed entirely for that car.
Those tires might as well have been cookie cutters off a Prius. That corner was not a problem for that car. The problem was the greasy broken down tires.
Never forget that tread depth is just one piece of tire life.
Did woods piss off the deep state though?
He liked his sex workers over 18.
He is Trump’s friend.
Former Lexus Tech here: Initially there was no override. One of the procedures of the recall, along with modifying the sound deadener/carpet under the pedals, was to go in and program a brake override into each vehicle.
You could press both the brake and gas, and the car would keep going, before this override was programed.
I've heard that certain old trucks made before a certain time are impervious to being remote jacked... can you provide any more details as to what cars are immune from this. Are all modern cars able to be remotely hijacked?
Many components are cheaply mass produced in China and sold to all the manufacturers to be assembled in their line. I have personally experienced the a failure in the same wiring harness for the blower motor resistor on 2 different 2008 Toyota Tacomas, and on a 2012 Ford Expedition. All three failed within a year of each other.
Ford is now making people bring their newer trucks to a technician to change the battery, or at the very least, the average auto parts store is no longer doing the complimentary exchange. Learn to turn a wrench and keep your old vehicles. Before long, you won’t even be able to change your own light bulbs.
First I should clarify that it was a firmware update that was given to us and flashed onto the ECM.
It would stand to reason that any vehicle without electronic assisted steering, braking, etc should be immune. But I couldn't tell you if those still wouldn't be vulnerable to some degree, besides being tracked
My 2010 Chrysler vas has steering and brakes hydraulic, which is great. Throttle is electronic, unfortunately, but I've been considering modding on the old style mechanical wire-driven throttle onto it.
Manual transmissions make remote override impossible. Rev the engine all you want, I can still yank that bitch out of gear.
Don’t worry, Chevy is working hard to even make that a thing of the past, as they implement a dual clutch automated transmission that appears to the user to operate like a manual transmission.
Dual clutch sequentials have been around for a long time.
Depends on the make and model. I have a 2002 Pontiac with EFI and nothing else, the radio has actual buttons. Never going to get anything that's steer by wire, not happening. Or an infotainment system, I have an obdii dongle and an app on the tablet and that's all it needs.
Most vehicles still have a manual method of gear selection. If the accelerator 'sticks', bump it from D to Neutral. Let the engine rev itself to death, but at least you can coast.
Bottom line being, knock it into neutral. And if you have one of the electronic dial gear selectors that wont let you, then, well, hope the air bags do their job.
It's connected to a sensor that's connected to a computer. Cars are not analog anymore. They are meant to 'feel' that way because that feel has value, but they aren't.
David Spade tweets gets a golf lesson from Tiger Feb 22 - someone tweets back - don't get into an SUV with him . . .
not planned
Didn't Tiger have a drunk driving incident some time ago? That tweet may have been referring to that.
LMAO - yeah yeah it was just a coincidence
Plausible deniability.
I thought that tweet was after the accident. Crazy!!
Yeah do you think they’ll be doing an investigation and talking to the guy who made that tweet.? Not!
Not quite. The brakes are still hydraulic, the power assist is electric but the brakes still work without power. The power steering is electric but the steering still is directly linked and works without power but of course a bit harder to turn the wheel. I say this as someone with two Toyotas in that range of years who also does his own work on them.
Some cars have brake by wire. Mine has no hydraulic connection between the brake pedal and the master cylinder - it's all done by computer & actuators (the Continental MKC1 Brake by Wire system). Used by Toyota, Lexus, and Alfa Romeo. Infiniti's Direct Adaptive Steering has no physical connection between the steering wheel and the steering mechanism. Many cars have no physical connection between the accelerator pedal and the engine.
Before you get too wigged out, aircraft have been like this for years. As long as there is enough reliability, redundancy, and fail safe design the tech isn't necessarily bad. But the ability to hijack remotely and make all these systems ignore the driver and do someone else's bidding, that's a bit troubling.
Push the brakes and the gas pedals to the floor, see which one wins out.
Then imagine the power assist cuts out.
Even if you manage to come to a stop, you're spinning rubber.
You have about 3 seconds, foot still on the brake, to open the door and jump out.
Most people this happened to were already going 30mph+. You're not gonna be able to overcome the momentum to come to a stop. The brakes would be/have proven to be useless once the computer wigs out.
It also doesn't help the Toyotas in question didn't have proper reinforcement behind the side doors and failed to meet standards on the roof's frame not caving in when the car flips over. They designed the things to be death traps.
I know all this because my father has a long-seeded hatred of Toyota from the start, he works on cars, and when news of these run-aways started coming out he was furious.
Then a fellow church mate died in a car accident. Sure enough, it was a Toyota. Sure enough he was going way over the limit. Sure enough, he flipped over. Sure enough, it collapsed like a tin box and he died.
I got a dog in this fight. They designed these things to be death traps.
It sounds like you're assuming I meant pushing both pedals to the floor starting from a stop.
Everything works out well in your mind, but the majority of people this happened to were already going 30+.
Everyone thinks they will magically become an action hero when a disaster happens. Little do people understand just how quickly things happen when the shit hits the fan.
Keep in mind, the majority of people don't have a clue how to properly drive to begin with. Introducing a scenario like the Kobayashi Maru to gram gram while she goes to puck up some prunes doesn't suddenly turn her into a Captain Kirk.
Been there and done that, try some different FUD.
In every consumer purchasable production vehicle in the US, the brake pedal contains the master cylinders, so any sort of brake assist can only increase pressure, and perhaps dump a limited amount of pressure into an internal brake ECU reservoir for anti-lock-braking. The brake ECU is also independent from any engine ECU, with any sort of driver pressure assist based on a pressure transducer wired to the brake ECU. There could be some coordination over a comms bus for cruise control, but even as bad as individual firmwares might be, it would be incredibly unlikely for a glitched out engine ECU to cause a brake ECU to fail in a way that makes the brake pedal assist not work.
Also, if the brakes bring the vehicle to a complete stop with the engine at full throttle, they can hold it stopped for an arbitrary amount of time without dissipating any energy. There's no immediate need for the driver to jump out of the vehicle.
Huh, apparently later generation Priuses have two solenoids to completely block the master cylinder from the calipers during normal operation. They claim that those solenoids open if the brake ESC fails. That does seem a little sketchy, since firmware presumably must detect a "failure" to know to de-energize the solenoids, for a certain class of failures. Buggy firmware could therefore seemingly lead to loss of hydraulic brakes. By law, all cars in the US need to have redundant mechanical brakes. That doesn't necessarily mean that they can't be electrically controlled, but doing it all by-wire really drives up the stakes.
If they're smart, those solenoids would have an over-pressure bypass so that really mashing on the master cylinder would hydraulically connect the calipers again. That probably doesn't exist though. A brake failure coinciding with unexpected acceleration on a prius would therefore be rather suspicious. As far as I know, though, the bulk of claims about sudden acceleration in Toyota vehicles were for camrys, with normal redundant hydraulic braking systems.
Are you saying you've witnessed a prius go into service mode unexpectedly, or that you've seen a prius intentionally put into service mode and observed the loss of rear braking?
I'm guessing the rear brakes are disabled in service mode to be compatible with running front wheel drive on a dynamometer or something.
Ever thought of taking it out of gear?
I had a 2005 Tundra and sold it and got a 2019 Tacoma ... for various reasons including all this fly by wire tech, I wish I had just dumped money into the old Tundra and kept that.
Same thing has happened with homes as well. AC/Heat is automated, your fridge is automated, your locks, your smoke alarms/etc. It's all connected to an amazon powered server somewhere.
Yes its easier and more convenient, but you pick your suffering or suffering will pick you.
The worst is when people fall into the trap to allow their electric company to automate their AC/heat. Basically letting the fox into the hen house.
Made the mistake of doing that once. You could save a little on your electric bill if you consented to let them throttle your AC in peak hours. I thought it’d be fine because I had a swamp cooler too that I used most of the time anyway, but the days they throttled it it was too hot and humid for the swamp cooler to work. So basically your AC only works when you don’t need it.
That's a thing?
Yeah exactly. Have to take some responsibility for yourself or they will choose which responsibility you get to have.
We just built a new home, and purposely chose to make it as low-tech as possible. (Appliances included. No BT anywhere!)
Bravo Tango?
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This is reality, mostly. Cars do still have e-brakes, though some are electronically actuated. Best thing in a situation like that is to shoot the fuse box and jam on the ebrake. Or if you're really paranoid, put a kill switch in or an emergency string pull around the ECU fuse/relay. Killing power stops the satjack.
You have to cut power to the computer. If there is a latent pull on the battery, you're still fucked.
Besides, fuses have been harder to get at more than ever before. Even harder when you're going 120mph.
I agree, but killing power from the battery is going to run out the power very quickly. The little bit of capacitors on the PCBs isn't going to hold more than a few milliseconds of juice. That said, you only get one chance to do it right.
Same system as fly-by-wire, drive-by-wire, no physical connection to moving parts beyond electrical cables for inputs. Airbus is completely flybywire without any backups. The 777 was Boeings first flybywire but they left on backup cable control for basic flight. Airbus does not have that option. Not sure if the 787 is completely flybywire or if Boeing stuck with their triple/quadruple redundancy by leaving cables as back flight controls.
What about shifting into neutral? Is that electronic too?
I have 2 90s Land Cruisers. Come at me.
From the-sun.com ; Speaking exclusively to The Sun, one crew member said staffers were left shaken after Woods nearly hit the car being driven by the show's director as he dashed away
"He really did nearly hit the director's car, too, when he left this morning, which shook us up because of Tiger crashing his car before", the source added.
The toxicology report will be enlightening.
How about he was running late and like most impatient drivers, sped off like a lunatic and crashed?
From a design perspective, a Crown Vic is similar to an F150 with a car body rather than a truck body. Things will go a million miles if the cost of replacing the ignition modules doesn't drive you broke.
I agree.
They stopped making Crown Vics because they were basically an economy version of the Lincoln Town & Country. Lincoln T&C's were phased out probably because they lasted too long before falling apart.
It is such a travesty they both have been phased out. It was a near-perfect platform. They are so damn reliable and the only draw-back is that they don't have enough weight in the back for heavy snow conditions.
Lincoln T&C are some of the smoothest riding cars I've ever been in. Basically just a Crown Vic with a pneumatic suspension. You can go over a gravel road and hear a penny drop.
My dad has been through three of them already, and the only reason he traded them wasn't because they petered out, but because he saw another one that was slightly newer and wanted to sell his friends/family his older model because he knew it wouldn't fail them for the rest of their lives.
All of them were great. Cars today are designed like iPhones; with Planned Obsolescence. They plan the cars to start falling apart after the warranty wears off so that no one can afford to buy them used with all the things that need repairs on a warrantless contract. Very pathetic. Ford is rolling in his grave.
Weren't Crown Victorias what a lot of police departments used for their fleets?
You just reinforced my post from last night. You’re right, we have seen it before.
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Would elon mask, I mean musk , comment on this electronic thingyz?
In MA they had us vote on a “Right to Repair” law where they would make it so only manufacturers could do maintenance on your car. Essentially they’d put privately owned repair places out of work.
Their argument was that people who work in mom and pop stores could steal your information from your car and follow you home and rape you (specifically women). They made commercials about it lol
Kinda makes sense they only want the big tech places to work on your car.
HASTINGS
This is why I don't drive.
My goodness they try and control every damn thing!
Just added this comment on another post, hadn't seen yours yet. IntheMatrixGroove radio show was just talking about it and pointed out yesterday was 2/23 which mirrored is 322, skull and bones. When I heard the news yesterday I told my husband, they tried to kill him by remote taking over control of his car. I don't know why but maybe it was just for the sacrifice of 322.
You don’t even need to have it in our car. They can swerve someone else’s car into you.
This is the main reason why all electronic vehicles kinda spook me.. i think it was around 2016 when some guy who i think was gonna bring down some big names, died in his Tesla after the thing just wigged out and accelerated and killed him in a crash, no other vehicles around.
Either Woods was whistleblower or he “timed-out” with Illumisnotty. He only had to refuse to sacrifice some loved-one...or similar scenario. When something like this happens, it’s too suspect IMO. Especially these days. Remember, satan will give you material wealth, or wealth of ability (in this dimension)...but you gotta pay the piper or your time gets cut short.
Walker had been in a movie featuring child predators also...
I got me one of these fancy suvs. And I admit. I think about this happening! It's all electronic!
Hmmmm
Are Tiger's clubs ok?
People buy these rescue tools to keep in their vehicles that break glass, seatbelt cutter etc. to stay safe. They need to be installing race car style kill switches.
If you short out a battery it can be pretty amazing.
Imagine doing that to a battery the size of the ones in an electric vehicle...
My truck has a similar system as this Jeep. Good old u-connect. Always connected, even if you don't pay for the service.
https://youtu.be/MK0SrxBC1xs
Emergency brakes are not discontinued. But I do understand what you’re getting at. Thank God in my vehicle all I Gotta do is push down on it with my foot. Also people panic, you can always shove your vehicle in the park. It would fuck it up completely but you should sure would slow you down
Transmission geek here. If you try to put a modern car in park while moving the computer will not execute the shift. It will give you a "shift denied" or some other message on the driver info center. Even older cars (my knowledge starts with 60's), the parking pawl cannot engage until the car is going less than 2-3 MPH. Above that the parking pawl (the metal device that locks the transmission from rotating) will just bounce off the notches it mates into to lock until the car is stopped or nearly stopped. It will make a very disturbing buzzing sound, but will not even provide much in the way of deceleration.