This site is obviously the only active vibrant Q collective going. If they didn't reach out to clarify any misinterpretations, you know it's bullshit. Also, the tech wouldn't allow for such a disruption without reason. A big reminder to anons to be careful who you follow. WWG1WGA
MAGA_From_Hell voted down with all 9 of his new accounts. ?
Anyways, if we revoke the ban (which I’m personally fine with as I don’t particularly love blanket bans), I hope people can simply use some self-control going forward; I don’t think this issue would have even been an issue if Georgeites hadn’t felt the need to breathlessly report every fart from that site as it it had great significance and predictive value. If George was merely one paytriot site among the rest, nobody would have minded. But the attempt around these parts to imbue it with Q-adjacent status based on the most tenuous of (George-stoked) connections was so transparently desperate and fervent that it was a glorious gift to have critical light shown on it finally.
So however this turns out, people, just chill out a bit on the George “news”. Or, against all odds, prove that George is exactly what you think it is.
So like I said to you before, be consistent and ban all Lindell pillow touting content, ban RSBN streams that ask for donations, ban Trump asking for political donations, ban all patriotic YouTube personalities with ads enabled or sponsors, and ban all patriotic websites linked that have ads or affiliate ads.
Paytriots, and capitalism, drives everything.
Or, oh wait, sorry, I’m so retarded that I don’t understand anything going on around me, right?
You mean like when pre Jan 6 certification and pre fake inauguration, Lindell continued to say with absolute certainty that Trump will win by the 20th, and he knows it because he has access to special information, oh by the way buy my pillows and share this video?
Don’t get me wrong, I love Lindell, he’s a true patriot, but you clearly have not watched much Lindell if that’s what you genuinely think.
First of all, we know who the fuck Lindell is. Lindell had an established company long before Trump even entered politics. He isn’t some mystery dude behind a screen posting stolen images and videos and claiming them as his own to get suckers like you locked in because you’re so desperate to believe something then sneakily throwing around his merch/donation links. Lindell isn’t banning people who question his authenticity. Lindell is using his money to fight. They’re not even in the same ballpark.
I’m almost surprised you’re not a liberal given how easy it is for you to fall for obvious bullshit & make excuses for them when the bullshit comes to light.
A paytriot is a paytriot. The fact that you now need to qualify WHAT TYPE of paytriot someone is because someone’s logical argument caught you in a bind proves your argument’s inadequacy, and it’s called moving the goalpost. And you also then jump to ad hominem style arguments, which proves the point I just made even further.
You are the sheep for jumping on the “YES MASTA PLS CENSOR CONTENT FROM MY WEARY SNOWFLAKE EYES” bullshit. Weak.
I got an email from Trumps new page today saying don't donate to RINOS and to donate to his new Save America PAC... guess we need to ban any trump discussions now that he is a paytriot.... dang, just found out he sells merchandise too :-(
There's a big difference between someone openly and transparently asking for donations to support a cause, subject to strict (as applied to him, anyways) election finance laws, and an entity that has NO legal information available, claims to not take donations, yet does, and sells merch. There are more differences than that, but if you can't see the false dichotomy here I don't think any amount of evidence would get through to you.
Bro just stop. Who gives a fuck if GN is bullshit. You are making excuses as if this invalidates the entire movement. If you want to ignore the glaring red flags, by all means go ahead, but don’t make excuses for them to people who can see through the obvious bullshit.
This is about intention, and it's really obvious. GN is a telegram group dishing out hopium from other websites as though its their own with a website selling stuff patriots would like -- where that money goes, we're not privy to. Not only that, but when Evspra asked they banned him. Yeesh.
Trump, Sydney Powell, Lin Wood? We have a pretty good idea where the money is going. We know who they are and they have official websites. (We ignore the GOP, though. Those guys cucked out).
So there you have it. See the difference? You can argue "muh capitalism" all day, but use your discernment. These are very different things.
They just leave their donation links up and have some cute merch you can buy.
I don’t understand why people are still trying to excuse GN.
This isn’t just some random person with an interesting feed.They’re claiming to be a Trump insider, helping to fight the rampant corruption. Do you think a close Trump insider who ONLY got notoriety because they only posted content that implies they’re helping Trump with a fight that the fate of our country and our future depends, who people have put so much faith into, would set up a fucking merch page to financially benefit off of these people’s emotions?
And when you find out that they’re using pictures/videos that aren’t theirs while claiming them as their own, pinning bullshit locations, selling fucking phone cases and accepting donations, then banning anyone who questions their validity, and you’re STILL this naive?!
I am sorry my friend, nobody gets to claim such nonsense.
Do you think the enemy of the people would allow such an organization to operate if THEY believed George News Was A Trump insider? On Youtube no less? Don't dilute yourself.
As far as I am concerned all organizations are an enemy of the people until they prove otherwise.
And since the People dont even have a functioning court right now, proof is going to be a little illusive, and we will not take anyone's word for it.
There is evidence of the exact opposite of that too. I’d post it for you but every time I’ve seen someone post said proof of GN being legit in the last day, they were shortly thereafter banned from GAW entirely. Open your eyes. Do these tactics of suppression not sound familiar to you?
Firstly, I will say, Evspra’s most damning piece of evidence was that GN had posted one video that was also elsewhere. And yet they posted absolutely no analysis and had no research into whether the two were connected.
Secondly, Evspra’s actions speak. Their actions were to censor content, go on a banning spree of people who disagree with them (many of whom ended up taking screenshots of what happened and relaying that information to other mods, which is why Evspra is gone), and also flame users of GAW.
Third, here is a friend of mine’s comment that compelled Evspra to for some reason ban them. The comment is nothing but their own analysis of why GN may be legit and Evapra was not right to jump the gun. I am not saying anything about GN for sure, but to go on a ban spree and censor content impeding out research and analysis, is NOT the way to go, it’s not parallel to our mission here, it’s not patriotic, and it is not American. Make your own judgement based on what I said. This was my friend’s comment that got him banned by Evspra:
I honestly don't know what I think right now. I'm still skeptically tracking George News. I was really excited about it and it felt really true for a while until today. The fact of the ban has created a rift within this board. I am always one to go with agency first. Talk about truth and lies and allow people to find out for themselves. I saw george as uniting people. I'm kinda just taking time to figure it all out. The world is chaos right now and I'm trying not to lose any hope. I would vote but I don't know.
Evspra...I have been here awhile, seen the work you do.. just to throw my two cents in, you have earned my trust. You presented your evidence, and made your call. You got my Up Vote, and IF you should ever need it, I have your back. Thanks for ALL you do.
If it is justification you need not bother in feeling. Don't forget that sometimes people need the doom bopper 3000 over here as well. As soon as George started talking like Q I knew something was fishy. You were right to do what you did.
I don't agree with their behavior. That's what has me stuck. I don't know why I'm not just angry about it. I think I was hanging on the edge of my seat and now that's gone. That's not right to do to people either. I think I'm just tired. I value all of those who work so hard on this board. This community has become a safe place for me to come. I don't fit In the regular asleep world right now and here I don't feel so tense and In fight or flight all the time. I'm not disagreeing at all. I'm just feeling .... A loss. Processing. ??♀️
Stop talking down to everyone. You made a strong argument but aren't putting faith in the community to decide for itself. Is there ill intent in George's actions? Maybe. I've never seen them provide anything of value and was hoping the constant references to them would die down. Your actions will damage your credibility among some on this forum, which is unnecessary since your information stood alone on merit. I've seen you lament in many comments that people struggle to see what's in front of them. A lot of people have jumped on the bandwagon and are shitting on GeorgeNews now. I don't think they are all thinking for themselves. Recognize that you are at the center of this controversy. Do you think that GeorgeNews is made of bad actors? or greedy opportunists? Could they ever provide something valuable? These are questions we could be discussing, and you are in the best position to pose them. Let logical and reasoned arguments open eyes and change minds. I believe this will make the community stronger. Do you? If we are a collection of people ready for the GA, what does it say when we don't trust our fellow anons to ultimately make the right decision? You are in a position of influence here. I hope you use it to end this emotionality and cultivate unity. Freethinkers don't like being told what to do. Without knowing how many shills are trying to pump up GeorgeNews in our community, I am guessing this is the reason for the backlash
It is moot to reverse what feels like a necessary ban (their refusal to address the criticism was damning). I think you took my point about how some in the community viewed the ban, and I know you heard from them. This is what I am trying to address. Unity amongst ourselves is important, not unity with this dishonest entity. These are tough times for most. I appreciate the time and effort you put toward uncovering their disingenuous actions. I won't miss scrolling past their junk-food level hopium that was devoid of any content. There are plenty of real developments to get excited about. At the very least, thanks for cleaning up the site. Increasing the visibility for quality info and good ideas is what matters most
Now are you sure you’re being fully honest here, E? I believe (and correct me of I’m wrong here, of course) precise quote from Q was “No outside comms except for George, because JFK Jr. and space planes.”
Hey Evspra, I know you're really damn busy dismantling the retards left and right here. Any chance I can get in on the train for getting an icon and title next to my name?
There's a pepe with his hands up by his cheeks as he looks up dreamy eyed and blushed cheeks ((if this is possible, I'm not quite sure how this works if I'm 100% honest.)) and for the title bright green [Pepe's World] please. And seriously while Ive got your attention. Thank you for everything you're doing. You seriously have carrying an enormous amount of weight here and doing God's work for this amazing site.
Many things we will never be 100% on in this war. But we must depend on our discernment and sometimes have a little faith. Sometimes we even need to have a little faith in each other.
We must be very cautious we do not become what we profess to despise. Censorship and banning of certain books or materials... well.... that’s what we are fighting against. We are fighting to protect our constitutional freedoms of speech. How is banning George news not the same as shutting down the president on Twitter or destroying Parler? We are ALL sharing info someone else attained when we research. Not much shared is original thought so don’t get to haughty folks or else you’re no better that those trying to destroy Dr Suess. I’ll say it again for those in the back...
Be very careful not to become what you profess to despise. Hypocrisy doesn’t look good on anyone.
Fuck that we don’t have to tiptoe around anymore. This is what got us into this position in the first fucking place. This is how we lose. We have to be as ruthless as the left in rooting evil out of our spaces. Im tired of the bow tie adjusting conservatives telling us to be careful. We are at war with evil, does not everyone understand this by now?
It would have been that much better with it. People have to start learning that any community based on virtue and morality that wants to stay on the side of good MUST censor or evil will encroach on and ultimately destroy them. Just like with your own soul. Put on the armor of God and hold the fucking line.
I would ask anyone advocating for a "platform without censorship" if they think people should be allowed to post/share CP on it. If their answer is yes, then I reckon they're a pedo. If their answer is no, then they're pro-censorship.
You banned GN content posts, not discussion iirc. We still have the ability to go there and follow them, etc. We spent the whole day today arguing about this decision -- if this isn't an example of free speech, I dunno what is! Why folks are getting worked up is beyond me. This is a website with moderators who moderate. This is part of the job description.
I want to know when we can move on and get back to name-calling Blue Anons.
Lul everytime this happens someone will without fail try the mUh CeNsOrShIp strawman. Fact is Trump’s twitter was banned without cause, GeorgeNews is banned because they are lying pieces of shit
If you’re so principled and against censorship then why not argue against censorship of child porn?
All these "mah censorship" freaks should have a damn good answer about CP. If they're okay with it, they're most likely pedos. If they aren't, guess what? They're pro censorship! Woah!
You know nothing of my principles nor my fight to save the voiceless children from the horrors placed upon them. My boots on the ground efforts certainly outweigh your efforts to shun those who are rallying for freedoms of every American under the constitution. “By their fruits ye shall know them” your replies are rotten, worm infested fruit indeed. God bless America where you have the right to be a closed minded, arrogant asshole too prideful to see that your hypocrisy is showing and that your ability to draw equal examples sorely diminished. Get some rest love. You’ll feel better tomorrow. .
This forum was better when there was a maximum of 4 posts a day.....well written and thought-out discussion material. Now it is all x22, george, blah fuckity blah blah blah spam.
I feel like the suppression of information, and in turn the freedom to discuss, analyze, and debate said information is shortsighted. While you have made an extremely compelling argument against GN, to which I have yet to see a coherent counter, I feel it is still a source of thought provoking ideas and concepts when viewed in the proper context. Especially if you read some of the threads in the chat. While I am inclined to agree with your assessment of the source, I feel we will be marginalizing a large segment of posters here, some of whom are solid and informative contributors. Also, if GN is controlled opposition or even plain old paytriot shills, it might be worth keeping track of both them, and their followers. I feel allowing links to be shared would be conducive to this exercise. Just one mans humble opinion.
What information is being suppressed? People can still talk about George, it's just not linking to it because the mods don't want people pointing each other to a scam.
I read everything Evspra posted on the discoveries made. I honestly believe the research done and the following results of said research were adequate enough to prove that something fishy is going. As i said in another post bashing this decision, the nice thing about this country isnthat you arebfreebto choosebwherenyou go, browse and even support a site run by liars. No one is telling you you can't go there so by all means go.
Read more into what I said. It's all about opsec. This doesn't have to be all aired out all in public, it's a bad look to anyone who observes it. I'm sorry; but as presented to the general public, this looks like some teenager drama type crap. Don't be reactionary. You have millions of people reading this forum and the game must be stepped up. One should not act in such a way that anyone can create a narrative from it.
I was always suspicious of GeorgeNews since the first posts. I said in another thread, I believe it's a thinly veiled attempt to get cash off the Great Awakening.
Look at the big picture. The enemy is trying to look for any way to divide us, any opportunity possible. We must think intelligently and any decisions or actions we make or take, must be done with stealth and precision to avoid any detection of internal division by outside sources.
On the flipside, not cutting out the cancers before they stick isn't exactly a good look, either. When you have a lot of shills and infiltrators and all sorts of nonsense going on, you have to cut out the tumors before they grow. We need to be able to trust what we know. We need to counteract any enemy psyops, including through direct confrontation if necessary. Even if the mods don't start something like this, given the drama has come out of what is in reality a very small number of people, it could be started even if the mods did nothing. Better to work em out of the woodwork sooner rather than later imo.
Honestly, this whole George ban makes me want to quit coming here. I don’t trust anyone, really. Thanks for the dig, but every other thread is about this. It’s has hijacked the whole board. From my understanding, many people were banned from George over the course of several hours and not just people who asked questions about where they get their content. George claims it was a bot malfunction. Other big accounts on Telegram have said theyve had problems previously with their bots too. There’s been attacks all over in the past 24 hrs, hitting Gab, 8Kun, and others. Perhaps it was bad timing? Or they’re using it as excuse. Hard to prove that though. Either way, I used to think GAW was a cool community. Now? I feel like I might get banned for maybe not seeing the big deal. Like they sell merch so they’re paytriots? Would that make X22 a paytriot because he has sponsors? Redpill too? Also Praying Medic wrote books. Anyway, I appreciate the dig on them and what you found, but I come here to escape the authoritarian scape I see everywhere else.
The slippery slope argument is so close to the truth, yet it is inherently illogical. Realistically, what we consider "a slippery slope" is more often related to an Overton window. In a world where rules are made, understood, and followed, no one action is a slippery slope for others. Nothing is as black and white as "either you do it all or do none, because if you do some you'll slippery slope to all"; there is a middle ground that is correct, even if blurry, and that middle ground is the rule; it is just as strong a rule as any other.
Judge on a case-by-case basis. Don't condemn people for present actions because of possible future actions; that's something the left loves to do. We're better than that, I hope.
Remember when us Voat refugees came over and complained that any censorship is a slippery slope and opens the door for anything to be censored?
But in any case..."How do you know they ever would?" Well how do you know they wouldn't? Nobody can predict the future, I'm sure you agree. Even if it were done on a case-by-case basis, what's the criteria to merit the censorship? "No Paytriots." Ok sure...except you don't have to pay anything to access any George's stuff. As far as I've experienced, even back when they showed Trump's White House corona briefings, they never pressured their audience to donate or buy merch. Further more, what about 8kun, the home of Q? 8kun has a news aggregate(the notables) and has merch too. Similar situation...they gonna get banned too?
The truly pressing issue isn't George's validity, it's how our mod took it upon himself to play daddy and ban links to George. If people think George should be placed in the same bin as Charlie Ward, so be it, they can skip the content if they don't want to see it. But banning places IS a slippery slope, regardless of how you want to rationalize it.
It's all about motive. When you have an organization that is being deceptive and has been caught lying multiple times now, you have a major red flag on your hands. If it's a transparent situation where people are asking for money to continue operating, that's something entirely different. Mike Lindell, for example, is not the same as George News because he is totally transparent about who he is, what he is using the money for, what he does, and what he is trying to do. I can explain it in more detail if you'd like, but I don't want to ramble without need. Does that make sense?
It isn't a slippery slope because the Mod took extensive actions prior to attempt to verify George's validity. Upon posting his findings, he went on to ask George about it. George responded by banning him for simply asking; and doing the same to most of the others that have asked. There was thorough process involved in this verification, and it's all publicly documented.
The only things that are banned are the links, and only under conditions of blind promotion. Discussion about George News is still totally allowed.
In short, there is no slippery slope here because it is simply enforcement of the rules as they always have existed. Nothing has changed; no slipping, and no slope.
Yeah. I realize that. Still don’t like the vibe. Just my opinion, man. See all the downvotes I got because my opinion differs? I don’t trust anyone, except Trump and Q drops. Also Flynn. Ok I trust a few. I take all info, sources with a grain of salt. I myself am not a frontline researcher like many here. I’m a sponge or absorber of info. I read their research, and if they cite decent sources I pass it along. I’m not a die hard George fan but they link to military footage I otherwise would never have seen. That to me is still somewhat valuable as it’s real footage and not fake. I’ve never thought them as insiders although maybe I did find it interesting they were pinging their location so close to Trump tower, but even then I had an inkling that could be manipulated somehow. I always have thought they were military patriots that followed Q. And if I’m wrong and they are a Pysop I wouldn’t be surprised. Because being awake, many people I once admired or thought cool, I’ve found out are sick and twisted and absolutely nothing surprises me anymore.
I feel that, but the biggest thing is just trying to prevent others from falling for a probable scam or psyop. How much you wanna bet we see a CNN presents about how they infiltrated to the "core of Qanon and managed to get thousands of dollars off of them. Look how gullible the Qanon is!"?
Understandable. But they’ve already done that and will continue to do that. The whole JFK Jr thing, lizard people, clones, etc. This is information warfare and it’s good to be skeptical. I just don’t like how I feel we’ve introduced cancel culture to this community. If you’re like me and are open to everything and attached to nothing, the George dig was very eye opening and I will now be leery of them. But as someone who is also open to everything and attached to nothing I will continue to monitor them time and again just to see what they post. Not because I think they’re insiders but because I’m curious. And it seems this community is “canceling” or attacking those who are like me. I understand where you’re coming from, but when the whole board is inundated with anti George posts, the real news is getting buried and we’re caught in fighting, creating a vibe I don’t very much jive with. And like I’ve said before, the donation thing is weird, yes. But Amazing Polly also takes donations, so has Redpill during his live streams, I’ve paid before just so he’d do a shoutout for me. Does that make them paytriots? I suppose so. Anyway Evspra is a way better researcher than me and I’m thankful for patriots like this!
The distinction between folks like them and GN is in the intent and the transparency. If GN just owned up to accepting donations and gave a clear and understandable reason for taking them, i think most people would be fine with that. When they don't, and they've been caught lying and in general being deceptive, that's a huge red flag.
I get what you're saying about the flood of anti-GN posts. A lot of that comes from people who were receiving that same kind of cancellation for calling out it's risks in the beginning, and now feel vindicated for their concerns and are making it brutally clear to anyone they can. A lot of it is also likely bots and shills of all kinds from all origins amplifying things.
Just don't forget you can keep talking about them, and even posting about stuff they post. The only thing banned is linking to them directly, and even then, only under certain circumstances. If you're linking to discuss, it is acceptable, by my understanding. If you're linking to promote them, like "look at george news!!!!", that's when it's not allowed.
Fair. No comments discussing George are being banned. Everyone is welcome to post new info or possible proof that they are legit. We are all waiting for a response from them that would vindicate them.
Loads of shills quacking about hive minds and group think. Lol. This forum is literally the antithesis of that.
Love this community. Screw confirmation bias. We aren’t hapless hopium addicts. My confidence in Q is totally unaffected.
Thank you Evspra and mods. And every other thoughtful member on here. ^_^b
This is getting frustrating, i have always been skeptical why they sell merch and take donations. Why haven’t we heard anything from Q? You think there would be something. Doesn’t even have to do with the plan. Q clearly sees us question everything to the point of us fighting about this
I’m aware it’s not, I’m just making a point. Obviously you have upset a huge percentage of this community. You’re literally ruining the GAW movement as it exists here by pushing people OUT. Literally dude wtf are you doing we like this place but you are ruining it
...i think youve mistaken me for the mod who made this post?
people have been debunking george news all day. the counterpoints are seriously lacking. the community will be better if we just admit they played us and move on.
Who the fuck said it was a large majority? I've been arguing 'bout it on and off all day and it's usually the same 3-6 sad fucks that are probably in on the scam.
The idea of "outrage" over this is just as fake as social media outrage; it does not represent even a large portion of the platform, let alone the population.
You make it obvious this site is comped fuck off you guys banned me three times for practicing my 1st A I am done with this shit hole! GAB here I come!
GeorgeNews peeps need a place to go to discuss and share content. They don’t want us here. Somebody I know was even banned from here for making a post earlier that lended unarguable credibility to GN. I mean wtf...
What if the government outlaws "Q discussion"? Isn't that illegal content, then, too? Isn't that content someone has subjectively decided isn't safe for you (or others)?
What about in the context of sharing the proof of Joe or Hunter Biden's depravity? I'm not saying I want to see it, but hypothetically speaking, shouldn't the same argument apply? Just because someone else has decided it isn't safe for me to see I shouldn't be able to see it?
Do you get what I'm saying? It's not as black and white as you're making it out to be. There isn't censorship or non-censorship. There's nuance. This forum was created with a purpose; the moderators are attempting to ensure that the forum remains focused to that purpose. If you doubt it, you can look back at their previous statements and/or the publicly available moderator logs.
Links are the only thing that are against the current rules. You are still allowed to talk about GN all you'd like.
Nobody has decided you can't go look at George News... not even Google, oddly enough. If you apply the rules of this forum to your life you have a lot of issues; if you don't, you'll realize that the rules of this forum and their enforcement do not at all hinder your freedom of speech or freedom of expression as constitutionally outlined. This forum isn't your property; if you want to have a forum where everything is allowed go to a different one, or make your own.
Are you even American? Your first point cannot be made to be illegal because it is a violation of freedom of speech and is therefore unconstitutional.
Censorship is censorship brotha, especially when it’s done in the same vein that MSM does it.
If I am reading your point correctly, what you’re basically saying, this forum is the same as every other big tech social media company, so if you don’t like it, go make your own. Right? “So what? We censor the content you post, but you can still visit it off site!” Lmao.
Yes, I will go to better platforms. Evaporated has ruined this place but also pulled back the veil on the commies that exist here.
Yes. Do you even understand that the government no longer gives a shit about the constitution? Legality isn't so simple as "I believe the constitution guarantees me the right to talk about it, so it's legal". We had a process for addressing the finer points of the law, and the legality of new laws, but that process has completely broken down. Therefore, the argument that "Illegal content is differentiated from content SOMEONE has subjectively decided isn't safe for me to see" falls apart. Define illegal content?!
This "censorship" isn't even remotely close to the same vein as the MSM. The MSM will ban DISCUSSION on top of links, and they won't stop there. They will hunt you down and ban you from literally everything they can. This forum will do no such thing.
There are "jurisdictions" to this all. There were laws before it became apparent that they would not be applied equally. Companies have the right to restrict your access to their platform, IF it is a private platform, NOT receiving the respective government benefits and protections of a sanctioned open-forum. Big tech claims to be an open forum, meaning they receive government benefits, but they are also supposed to be subject to the constitution rigidly. If they ceased receiving those government benefits, and actually followed their user contract instead of banning people for things that are not violations of that contract, they would have every right to censor you, on their platform, as communities.win in general does. They do not do this; they illegally censor, and they go well beyond their own jurisdiction to get you fired from any job, to dox you, and to, in general, ruin and unperson you. Unlike with this website, they will not just stop you from linking to the content, they will seek to destroy the content entirely as well, to prevent anyone from accessing it in any way.
To compare the actions of the moderators on this website to the actions of big tech is, frankly, absurd.
Not all censorship is bad. I, for one, support the censorship of child pornography. I support dedicated forums censoring to maintain the purpose of their forum. There is a time and a place for everything, and there are more rights than simply the right to freedom of expression. In some instances, these other rights supersede the freedom of expression. If they did not, there could be no justice.
I disagree with banning things. I think we need to keep an eye on things as anons. Regardless of if we believe it to be true or not. We keep an eye on many things we KNOaw not to be true, like CNN and all the bullshit out in the world right now. George News should not be outlawed because someone on here decided to deem themselves the leader. No offense Evspra, but you are just another anon. We all contribute here.
Honestly, I didn't follow them super close, but when I saw the sudden ban, i thought it was a bit much. However, after seeing actual research done into them, I see why it was done.
Now, I still have no personal opinion on whether or not to withhold the ban, but at the very least, we all need to hold a skeptical eye on GN
Evspra a question. So they are thieves for posting others content? Does everyone who post here ask and get permission to link or use their content?
Wouldnt your time be better spent at the front gate fending off the obvious shills and trolls? Is Dave @X22 next? How about Patriot Streetfighter? Ive wasted enough time on this subject. Just keep in mind (some) trolls are now voting to get rid of Georgenews.
Lift the ban but delete all links and low effort posts related to George. Allow any constructive, rational and sceptical discussion about their content and its authenticity (or lack there of).
As others have noted, I think the evidence that has been presented should be of great concern to anyone who followed their channel. However, I don't believe it's necessarily damning... Yet. I think they will be forced to show their hand very soon either way.
Another way it could be handled is by having a bot that automatically comments with the arguments against them when someone posts about George. I know that's possible on reddit but can it be done on win too?
Newbie here but figured I would chime in. Keep the ban but give them a chance to explain themselves should they want to do that. Have someone, like a moderator, privately reach out to them for comment like reporters used to do before they became sell-outs.
If they don't want, or care, to defend themselves then they've effectively plead "no contest" and the damning information stands as should the ban. It's exactly how the legal system in this country is supposed to work, seems fitting.
Well that makes that decision an easy one. That genuinely bothers me they would do that, though it isn't unexpected. It's a shame Evspra got attacked so bad for trying to minimize the intrusion of what equates to a false prophet for the Q movement. This is an information war and we can't allow bad actors any quarter on our side of the battlefield.
Just an example of how such efforts were to establish credibility here (aside from spam-like daily posts establishing GN chat connections to Q crumbs).
Arguing with folks on and off all day about this (in support of your actions). It seems like it's just a few, and, much like GN did themselves, after some mild pressing they rapidly degrade to personal attacks instead of debate.
I think they might be associated/affiliated with whatever entity has been running GN, and they're so upset because their sweet gravy train is coming to an end.
I wonder how long it will be until "insiders" at CNN speak up about how they infiltrated and played the Q community, and gloat about "how gullible they are".
Makes me sick.
Stay strong out there, keep fighting for what's right regardless of what the morons say. At the end of the day, remember that a good lot of them might not even be real (or at least, distinct/individuals, you know what I mean).
This site is obviously the only active vibrant Q collective going. If they didn't reach out to clarify any misinterpretations, you know it's bullshit. Also, the tech wouldn't allow for such a disruption without reason. A big reminder to anons to be careful who you follow. WWG1WGA
Great work discovering the dvidshub connection.
The fact they are banning anyone for asking about dvidshub shows they are not trustworthy.
If they were legit they would address the obvious plagiarism and provide an explanation.
Good to see mods doing real research.
The OP of those photos on dvidshub should be notified. They could even take legal action
MAGA_From_Hell voted down with all 9 of his new accounts. ?
Anyways, if we revoke the ban (which I’m personally fine with as I don’t particularly love blanket bans), I hope people can simply use some self-control going forward; I don’t think this issue would have even been an issue if Georgeites hadn’t felt the need to breathlessly report every fart from that site as it it had great significance and predictive value. If George was merely one paytriot site among the rest, nobody would have minded. But the attempt around these parts to imbue it with Q-adjacent status based on the most tenuous of (George-stoked) connections was so transparently desperate and fervent that it was a glorious gift to have critical light shown on it finally.
So however this turns out, people, just chill out a bit on the George “news”. Or, against all odds, prove that George is exactly what you think it is.
it kinda seems like they have 10 people who keep making accounts to cry about the ban. Low effort operations.
Reasons why GeorgeNews is bad;
So like I said to you before, be consistent and ban all Lindell pillow touting content, ban RSBN streams that ask for donations, ban Trump asking for political donations, ban all patriotic YouTube personalities with ads enabled or sponsors, and ban all patriotic websites linked that have ads or affiliate ads.
Paytriots, and capitalism, drives everything.
Or, oh wait, sorry, I’m so retarded that I don’t understand anything going on around me, right?
george news sells hopium to q followers, lindell puts his money where his mouth is with the election stuff. how can you not see the difference.
You mean like when pre Jan 6 certification and pre fake inauguration, Lindell continued to say with absolute certainty that Trump will win by the 20th, and he knows it because he has access to special information, oh by the way buy my pillows and share this video?
Don’t get me wrong, I love Lindell, he’s a true patriot, but you clearly have not watched much Lindell if that’s what you genuinely think.
Atleast Lindell produced the content himself and didnt steal it from somewhere else and claim it as original insider info. Do you see the difference?
A lie is a lie.
To be fair, Flynn said the exact same thing...
Imagine being this naive.
First of all, we know who the fuck Lindell is. Lindell had an established company long before Trump even entered politics. He isn’t some mystery dude behind a screen posting stolen images and videos and claiming them as his own to get suckers like you locked in because you’re so desperate to believe something then sneakily throwing around his merch/donation links. Lindell isn’t banning people who question his authenticity. Lindell is using his money to fight. They’re not even in the same ballpark.
I’m almost surprised you’re not a liberal given how easy it is for you to fall for obvious bullshit & make excuses for them when the bullshit comes to light.
A paytriot is a paytriot. The fact that you now need to qualify WHAT TYPE of paytriot someone is because someone’s logical argument caught you in a bind proves your argument’s inadequacy, and it’s called moving the goalpost. And you also then jump to ad hominem style arguments, which proves the point I just made even further.
You are the sheep for jumping on the “YES MASTA PLS CENSOR CONTENT FROM MY WEARY SNOWFLAKE EYES” bullshit. Weak.
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I got an email from Trumps new page today saying don't donate to RINOS and to donate to his new Save America PAC... guess we need to ban any trump discussions now that he is a paytriot.... dang, just found out he sells merchandise too :-(
Were you born in a barn?
There's a big difference between someone openly and transparently asking for donations to support a cause, subject to strict (as applied to him, anyways) election finance laws, and an entity that has NO legal information available, claims to not take donations, yet does, and sells merch. There are more differences than that, but if you can't see the false dichotomy here I don't think any amount of evidence would get through to you.
I was born in a kitchen
I'm tired and blurred your name and message and read "I was just born in a kitchen" lmao.
Quit being fucking dense parlevoo.
Bro just stop. Who gives a fuck if GN is bullshit. You are making excuses as if this invalidates the entire movement. If you want to ignore the glaring red flags, by all means go ahead, but don’t make excuses for them to people who can see through the obvious bullshit.
George also said to donate to that same super Pac
I’ve seen screenshots where they stated they did not want donations. What paytriot would do that?
They're taking donations right now, I can see it live in the chat.
Screenshot George asking for donations.
What's the problem anyways. People donate to RSBN live stream too. Does that make RSBN a fraud too?
They don't want donations, but they do sell merchandise. They said buy it or don't...
I dont see how it's any different to buying MAGA hats ect from 45's merch store...
This is about intention, and it's really obvious. GN is a telegram group dishing out hopium from other websites as though its their own with a website selling stuff patriots would like -- where that money goes, we're not privy to. Not only that, but when Evspra asked they banned him. Yeesh.
Trump, Sydney Powell, Lin Wood? We have a pretty good idea where the money is going. We know who they are and they have official websites. (We ignore the GOP, though. Those guys cucked out).
So there you have it. See the difference? You can argue "muh capitalism" all day, but use your discernment. These are very different things.
They just leave their donation links up and have some cute merch you can buy.
I don’t understand why people are still trying to excuse GN.
This isn’t just some random person with an interesting feed.They’re claiming to be a Trump insider, helping to fight the rampant corruption. Do you think a close Trump insider who ONLY got notoriety because they only posted content that implies they’re helping Trump with a fight that the fate of our country and our future depends, who people have put so much faith into, would set up a fucking merch page to financially benefit off of these people’s emotions?
And when you find out that they’re using pictures/videos that aren’t theirs while claiming them as their own, pinning bullshit locations, selling fucking phone cases and accepting donations, then banning anyone who questions their validity, and you’re STILL this naive?!
Jesus. GN is bullshit. Let it go. Move on.
<They’re claiming to be a Trump insider
I am sorry my friend, nobody gets to claim such nonsense.
Do you think the enemy of the people would allow such an organization to operate if THEY believed George News Was A Trump insider? On Youtube no less? Don't dilute yourself.
As far as I am concerned all organizations are an enemy of the people until they prove otherwise.
And since the People dont even have a functioning court right now, proof is going to be a little illusive, and we will not take anyone's word for it.
There is evidence of the exact opposite of that too. I’d post it for you but every time I’ve seen someone post said proof of GN being legit in the last day, they were shortly thereafter banned from GAW entirely. Open your eyes. Do these tactics of suppression not sound familiar to you?
If you have the proof then DM them to me, I’m happy to change my mind if I’m wrong
Now that Evapra is gone I am free to post it.
Firstly, I will say, Evspra’s most damning piece of evidence was that GN had posted one video that was also elsewhere. And yet they posted absolutely no analysis and had no research into whether the two were connected.
Secondly, Evspra’s actions speak. Their actions were to censor content, go on a banning spree of people who disagree with them (many of whom ended up taking screenshots of what happened and relaying that information to other mods, which is why Evspra is gone), and also flame users of GAW.
Third, here is a friend of mine’s comment that compelled Evspra to for some reason ban them. The comment is nothing but their own analysis of why GN may be legit and Evapra was not right to jump the gun. I am not saying anything about GN for sure, but to go on a ban spree and censor content impeding out research and analysis, is NOT the way to go, it’s not parallel to our mission here, it’s not patriotic, and it is not American. Make your own judgement based on what I said. This was my friend’s comment that got him banned by Evspra:
They're not grifters. For those who don't have telegram I've taken a few screenshots from their telegram regarding donations and merch. You can read through them and decide for yourself if this seems like a con. https://i.maga.host/M37DBV9.png https://i.maga.host/jjz4wnH.png https://i.maga.host/SFxeaHI.png https://i.maga.host/e7M7xzR.png https://i.maga.host/kJ3piGr.png https://i.maga.host/tSySWRE.png https://i.maga.host/jVYqsL0.png https://i.maga.host/cLXI5lF.png https://i.maga.host/rqJjkCn.png https://i.maga.host/QZzEAPT.png So there's also this journalist Liz Crokin, you might remember she was the one who broke pizza gate wide open. She's been working with GeorgeNews and participating in their livestream since the middle of January. Liz is an accomplished and trusted Journalist, a real journalist. She would have done her due diligence before throwing in with George. https://i.maga.host/RwSDC29.png https://i.maga.host/Nvy64Ku.png https://i.maga.host/7mqcZPb.png https://i.maga.host/Z4qc2gp.png https://i.maga.host/lnfruKq.png Dan Scavino and George Posted at the same time? https://i.maga.host/Hxkm61m.png I'm sure there is more we could find on George news to prove my point. I'm tired of Patriots being called paytriots just because they sell t-shirts. It's called capitalism. That argument is completely void. We will all know soon enough who is real and who isn't. Don't ban speech. Don't ban conversation. I can't believe we're even discussing a ban.
The fact that you don’t know who Liz Crokin is tells me everything I need to know.
Liz Crokin worked in the WH and is a well known public figure. Yes, you’re right, you are not legit.
I honestly don't know what I think right now. I'm still skeptically tracking George News. I was really excited about it and it felt really true for a while until today. The fact of the ban has created a rift within this board. I am always one to go with agency first. Talk about truth and lies and allow people to find out for themselves. I saw george as uniting people. I'm kinda just taking time to figure it all out. The world is chaos right now and I'm trying not to lose any hope. I would vote but I don't know.
This justifies the ban. If they cannot be transparent and appear to be milking the movement or controlled psy ops-- out they go.
Someone else in GAW did an analysis of their code -- as Happy Quinn would say, "not good."
Evspra...I have been here awhile, seen the work you do.. just to throw my two cents in, you have earned my trust. You presented your evidence, and made your call. You got my Up Vote, and IF you should ever need it, I have your back. Thanks for ALL you do.
Your Welcome Friend...The Community knows that you put them first as well.
If it is justification you need not bother in feeling. Don't forget that sometimes people need the doom bopper 3000 over here as well. As soon as George started talking like Q I knew something was fishy. You were right to do what you did.
And you also have my keks
I wouldn't be surprised if they are cointelpro tbh. The whole George News thing reminds me of the Corsi/Infowars infiltration on reddit.
You are the reason I am going to George News NOW! I trust dog shit more than you
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Here here!
I don't agree with their behavior. That's what has me stuck. I don't know why I'm not just angry about it. I think I was hanging on the edge of my seat and now that's gone. That's not right to do to people either. I think I'm just tired. I value all of those who work so hard on this board. This community has become a safe place for me to come. I don't fit In the regular asleep world right now and here I don't feel so tense and In fight or flight all the time. I'm not disagreeing at all. I'm just feeling .... A loss. Processing. ??♀️
Well we have Lin Wood, ghost Ezra (so far) and that’s about it in terms of regular posters.
I don’t think there is any rift on this board except by shills attempting to artificially engineer one :)
Stop talking down to everyone. You made a strong argument but aren't putting faith in the community to decide for itself. Is there ill intent in George's actions? Maybe. I've never seen them provide anything of value and was hoping the constant references to them would die down. Your actions will damage your credibility among some on this forum, which is unnecessary since your information stood alone on merit. I've seen you lament in many comments that people struggle to see what's in front of them. A lot of people have jumped on the bandwagon and are shitting on GeorgeNews now. I don't think they are all thinking for themselves. Recognize that you are at the center of this controversy. Do you think that GeorgeNews is made of bad actors? or greedy opportunists? Could they ever provide something valuable? These are questions we could be discussing, and you are in the best position to pose them. Let logical and reasoned arguments open eyes and change minds. I believe this will make the community stronger. Do you? If we are a collection of people ready for the GA, what does it say when we don't trust our fellow anons to ultimately make the right decision? You are in a position of influence here. I hope you use it to end this emotionality and cultivate unity. Freethinkers don't like being told what to do. Without knowing how many shills are trying to pump up GeorgeNews in our community, I am guessing this is the reason for the backlash
It is moot to reverse what feels like a necessary ban (their refusal to address the criticism was damning). I think you took my point about how some in the community viewed the ban, and I know you heard from them. This is what I am trying to address. Unity amongst ourselves is important, not unity with this dishonest entity. These are tough times for most. I appreciate the time and effort you put toward uncovering their disingenuous actions. I won't miss scrolling past their junk-food level hopium that was devoid of any content. There are plenty of real developments to get excited about. At the very least, thanks for cleaning up the site. Increasing the visibility for quality info and good ideas is what matters most
God bless you evspra your in my prayers.
Now are you sure you’re being fully honest here, E? I believe (and correct me of I’m wrong here, of course) precise quote from Q was “No outside comms except for George, because JFK Jr. and space planes.”
Hey Evspra, I know you're really damn busy dismantling the retards left and right here. Any chance I can get in on the train for getting an icon and title next to my name?
Hey u/Evspra is there one available of the Pepe from the ‘C’mon do a terror’ meme?
Damn, I cannot find it anywhere now.
How about this one instead: https://www.memeatlas.com/images/pepes/pepe-lights-cigar.jpg
There's a pepe with his hands up by his cheeks as he looks up dreamy eyed and blushed cheeks ((if this is possible, I'm not quite sure how this works if I'm 100% honest.)) and for the title bright green [Pepe's World] please. And seriously while Ive got your attention. Thank you for everything you're doing. You seriously have carrying an enormous amount of weight here and doing God's work for this amazing site.
same... i feel naked w/o a pepe and some flash..
Many things we will never be 100% on in this war. But we must depend on our discernment and sometimes have a little faith. Sometimes we even need to have a little faith in each other.
I sense good intentions are prevailing.
We must be very cautious we do not become what we profess to despise. Censorship and banning of certain books or materials... well.... that’s what we are fighting against. We are fighting to protect our constitutional freedoms of speech. How is banning George news not the same as shutting down the president on Twitter or destroying Parler? We are ALL sharing info someone else attained when we research. Not much shared is original thought so don’t get to haughty folks or else you’re no better that those trying to destroy Dr Suess. I’ll say it again for those in the back... Be very careful not to become what you profess to despise. Hypocrisy doesn’t look good on anyone.
Fuck that we don’t have to tiptoe around anymore. This is what got us into this position in the first fucking place. This is how we lose. We have to be as ruthless as the left in rooting evil out of our spaces. Im tired of the bow tie adjusting conservatives telling us to be careful. We are at war with evil, does not everyone understand this by now?
I don’t think so. The true followers of Q are grounded. We don’t need hopium peddlers.
AMEN
It would have been that much better with it. People have to start learning that any community based on virtue and morality that wants to stay on the side of good MUST censor or evil will encroach on and ultimately destroy them. Just like with your own soul. Put on the armor of God and hold the fucking line.
This, everyone draws a censorship line somewhere.
I would ask anyone advocating for a "platform without censorship" if they think people should be allowed to post/share CP on it. If their answer is yes, then I reckon they're a pedo. If their answer is no, then they're pro-censorship.
You banned GN content posts, not discussion iirc. We still have the ability to go there and follow them, etc. We spent the whole day today arguing about this decision -- if this isn't an example of free speech, I dunno what is! Why folks are getting worked up is beyond me. This is a website with moderators who moderate. This is part of the job description.
I want to know when we can move on and get back to name-calling Blue Anons.
I agree that the banning is an issue. If they were legit they should have had an answer.
Lul everytime this happens someone will without fail try the mUh CeNsOrShIp strawman. Fact is Trump’s twitter was banned without cause, GeorgeNews is banned because they are lying pieces of shit
If you’re so principled and against censorship then why not argue against censorship of child porn?
Exact-o-fuckingly.
All these "mah censorship" freaks should have a damn good answer about CP. If they're okay with it, they're most likely pedos. If they aren't, guess what? They're pro censorship! Woah!
You know nothing of my principles nor my fight to save the voiceless children from the horrors placed upon them. My boots on the ground efforts certainly outweigh your efforts to shun those who are rallying for freedoms of every American under the constitution. “By their fruits ye shall know them” your replies are rotten, worm infested fruit indeed. God bless America where you have the right to be a closed minded, arrogant asshole too prideful to see that your hypocrisy is showing and that your ability to draw equal examples sorely diminished. Get some rest love. You’ll feel better tomorrow. .
Fuck off cuck
The award for most educated and unique come back goes to you for sure. You’re one Class act.
And they became what they professed to hate....
[They] want us divided. Be strong guys. Expand your thinking. We are fighting an information war and it’s pretty foggy out.
The truth is there and we will find it together. WWG1WGA.
No, I would say the last thing we want is for lies to prevail. A community is worthless if it has no integrity.
This forum was better when there was a maximum of 4 posts a day.....well written and thought-out discussion material. Now it is all x22, george, blah fuckity blah blah blah spam.
I got sick of george simply bc of all the posts on here about what they post there lol.
"GUYS LOOK AT THIS, GEORGE JUST QUOTED Q!"
like seriously? If I cared about george I'd know that already.
I feel like the suppression of information, and in turn the freedom to discuss, analyze, and debate said information is shortsighted. While you have made an extremely compelling argument against GN, to which I have yet to see a coherent counter, I feel it is still a source of thought provoking ideas and concepts when viewed in the proper context. Especially if you read some of the threads in the chat. While I am inclined to agree with your assessment of the source, I feel we will be marginalizing a large segment of posters here, some of whom are solid and informative contributors. Also, if GN is controlled opposition or even plain old paytriot shills, it might be worth keeping track of both them, and their followers. I feel allowing links to be shared would be conducive to this exercise. Just one mans humble opinion.
What information is being suppressed? People can still talk about George, it's just not linking to it because the mods don't want people pointing each other to a scam.
I'm referring to future videos/ chats. I personally think people should be allowed to share it for discussion and debate.
If it's just the contents and not links I believe they can.
I read everything Evspra posted on the discoveries made. I honestly believe the research done and the following results of said research were adequate enough to prove that something fishy is going. As i said in another post bashing this decision, the nice thing about this country isnthat you arebfreebto choosebwherenyou go, browse and even support a site run by liars. No one is telling you you can't go there so by all means go.
I don't know what to think yet, so for now I'll just upvote for "upsetti spaghetti."
Agreed! Lol
I like the flair idea. Give them the same flair you'd give any of these other PAYtriots like infowars, McKay, Parkes, Ward, IntheMatrix, et al
Ban supported.
I suspect George may been a honeypot this entire time.
George News does not produce content. They post links to others, or steal their images and watermark them as though they came from them originally.
Ban them forever.
Way to go trying to start drama where there was zero, everyone involved. Emotional...
Read more into what I said. It's all about opsec. This doesn't have to be all aired out all in public, it's a bad look to anyone who observes it. I'm sorry; but as presented to the general public, this looks like some teenager drama type crap. Don't be reactionary. You have millions of people reading this forum and the game must be stepped up. One should not act in such a way that anyone can create a narrative from it.
I was always suspicious of GeorgeNews since the first posts. I said in another thread, I believe it's a thinly veiled attempt to get cash off the Great Awakening.
Look at the big picture. The enemy is trying to look for any way to divide us, any opportunity possible. We must think intelligently and any decisions or actions we make or take, must be done with stealth and precision to avoid any detection of internal division by outside sources.
(And yes I believe Q; no outside comms.)
On the flipside, not cutting out the cancers before they stick isn't exactly a good look, either. When you have a lot of shills and infiltrators and all sorts of nonsense going on, you have to cut out the tumors before they grow. We need to be able to trust what we know. We need to counteract any enemy psyops, including through direct confrontation if necessary. Even if the mods don't start something like this, given the drama has come out of what is in reality a very small number of people, it could be started even if the mods did nothing. Better to work em out of the woodwork sooner rather than later imo.
Honestly, this whole George ban makes me want to quit coming here. I don’t trust anyone, really. Thanks for the dig, but every other thread is about this. It’s has hijacked the whole board. From my understanding, many people were banned from George over the course of several hours and not just people who asked questions about where they get their content. George claims it was a bot malfunction. Other big accounts on Telegram have said theyve had problems previously with their bots too. There’s been attacks all over in the past 24 hrs, hitting Gab, 8Kun, and others. Perhaps it was bad timing? Or they’re using it as excuse. Hard to prove that though. Either way, I used to think GAW was a cool community. Now? I feel like I might get banned for maybe not seeing the big deal. Like they sell merch so they’re paytriots? Would that make X22 a paytriot because he has sponsors? Redpill too? Also Praying Medic wrote books. Anyway, I appreciate the dig on them and what you found, but I come here to escape the authoritarian scape I see everywhere else.
The only bans are on links to GN. You can talk about it and damn near everything else related to Q freely.
While this is true, how long until mods decide to ban other sources? Why do CNN links get a free pass? inb4 "yOu DiDn'T rEaD hIs PoSts"
How do you know they ever would?
The slippery slope argument is so close to the truth, yet it is inherently illogical. Realistically, what we consider "a slippery slope" is more often related to an Overton window. In a world where rules are made, understood, and followed, no one action is a slippery slope for others. Nothing is as black and white as "either you do it all or do none, because if you do some you'll slippery slope to all"; there is a middle ground that is correct, even if blurry, and that middle ground is the rule; it is just as strong a rule as any other.
Judge on a case-by-case basis. Don't condemn people for present actions because of possible future actions; that's something the left loves to do. We're better than that, I hope.
Remember when us Voat refugees came over and complained that any censorship is a slippery slope and opens the door for anything to be censored?
But in any case..."How do you know they ever would?" Well how do you know they wouldn't? Nobody can predict the future, I'm sure you agree. Even if it were done on a case-by-case basis, what's the criteria to merit the censorship? "No Paytriots." Ok sure...except you don't have to pay anything to access any George's stuff. As far as I've experienced, even back when they showed Trump's White House corona briefings, they never pressured their audience to donate or buy merch. Further more, what about 8kun, the home of Q? 8kun has a news aggregate(the notables) and has merch too. Similar situation...they gonna get banned too?
The truly pressing issue isn't George's validity, it's how our mod took it upon himself to play daddy and ban links to George. If people think George should be placed in the same bin as Charlie Ward, so be it, they can skip the content if they don't want to see it. But banning places IS a slippery slope, regardless of how you want to rationalize it.
It's all about motive. When you have an organization that is being deceptive and has been caught lying multiple times now, you have a major red flag on your hands. If it's a transparent situation where people are asking for money to continue operating, that's something entirely different. Mike Lindell, for example, is not the same as George News because he is totally transparent about who he is, what he is using the money for, what he does, and what he is trying to do. I can explain it in more detail if you'd like, but I don't want to ramble without need. Does that make sense?
It isn't a slippery slope because the Mod took extensive actions prior to attempt to verify George's validity. Upon posting his findings, he went on to ask George about it. George responded by banning him for simply asking; and doing the same to most of the others that have asked. There was thorough process involved in this verification, and it's all publicly documented.
The only things that are banned are the links, and only under conditions of blind promotion. Discussion about George News is still totally allowed.
In short, there is no slippery slope here because it is simply enforcement of the rules as they always have existed. Nothing has changed; no slipping, and no slope.
Yeah. I realize that. Still don’t like the vibe. Just my opinion, man. See all the downvotes I got because my opinion differs? I don’t trust anyone, except Trump and Q drops. Also Flynn. Ok I trust a few. I take all info, sources with a grain of salt. I myself am not a frontline researcher like many here. I’m a sponge or absorber of info. I read their research, and if they cite decent sources I pass it along. I’m not a die hard George fan but they link to military footage I otherwise would never have seen. That to me is still somewhat valuable as it’s real footage and not fake. I’ve never thought them as insiders although maybe I did find it interesting they were pinging their location so close to Trump tower, but even then I had an inkling that could be manipulated somehow. I always have thought they were military patriots that followed Q. And if I’m wrong and they are a Pysop I wouldn’t be surprised. Because being awake, many people I once admired or thought cool, I’ve found out are sick and twisted and absolutely nothing surprises me anymore.
I feel that, but the biggest thing is just trying to prevent others from falling for a probable scam or psyop. How much you wanna bet we see a CNN presents about how they infiltrated to the "core of Qanon and managed to get thousands of dollars off of them. Look how gullible the Qanon is!"?
Understandable. But they’ve already done that and will continue to do that. The whole JFK Jr thing, lizard people, clones, etc. This is information warfare and it’s good to be skeptical. I just don’t like how I feel we’ve introduced cancel culture to this community. If you’re like me and are open to everything and attached to nothing, the George dig was very eye opening and I will now be leery of them. But as someone who is also open to everything and attached to nothing I will continue to monitor them time and again just to see what they post. Not because I think they’re insiders but because I’m curious. And it seems this community is “canceling” or attacking those who are like me. I understand where you’re coming from, but when the whole board is inundated with anti George posts, the real news is getting buried and we’re caught in fighting, creating a vibe I don’t very much jive with. And like I’ve said before, the donation thing is weird, yes. But Amazing Polly also takes donations, so has Redpill during his live streams, I’ve paid before just so he’d do a shoutout for me. Does that make them paytriots? I suppose so. Anyway Evspra is a way better researcher than me and I’m thankful for patriots like this!
The distinction between folks like them and GN is in the intent and the transparency. If GN just owned up to accepting donations and gave a clear and understandable reason for taking them, i think most people would be fine with that. When they don't, and they've been caught lying and in general being deceptive, that's a huge red flag.
I get what you're saying about the flood of anti-GN posts. A lot of that comes from people who were receiving that same kind of cancellation for calling out it's risks in the beginning, and now feel vindicated for their concerns and are making it brutally clear to anyone they can. A lot of it is also likely bots and shills of all kinds from all origins amplifying things.
Just don't forget you can keep talking about them, and even posting about stuff they post. The only thing banned is linking to them directly, and even then, only under certain circumstances. If you're linking to discuss, it is acceptable, by my understanding. If you're linking to promote them, like "look at george news!!!!", that's when it's not allowed.
This banning does not sit right with me. Much too hasty.
I still haven't been banned for asking about dvidshub
They're not grifters.
For those who don't have telegram I've taken a few screenshots from their telegram regarding donations and merch. You can read through them and decide for yourself if this seems like a con. https://i.maga.host/M37DBV9.png https://i.maga.host/jjz4wnH.png https://i.maga.host/SFxeaHI.png https://i.maga.host/e7M7xzR.png https://i.maga.host/kJ3piGr.png https://i.maga.host/tSySWRE.png https://i.maga.host/jVYqsL0.png https://i.maga.host/cLXI5lF.png https://i.maga.host/rqJjkCn.png https://i.maga.host/QZzEAPT.png
So there's also this journalist Liz Crokin, you might remember she was the one who broke pizza gate wide open. She's been working with GeorgeNews and participating in their livestream since the middle of January. Liz is an accomplished and trusted Journalist, a real journalist. She would have done her due diligence before throwing in with George. https://i.maga.host/RwSDC29.png https://i.maga.host/Nvy64Ku.png https://i.maga.host/7mqcZPb.png https://i.maga.host/Z4qc2gp.png https://i.maga.host/lnfruKq.png
Dan Scavino and George Posted at the same time? https://i.maga.host/Hxkm61m.png
I'm sure there is more we could find on George news to prove my point.
I'm tired of Patriots being called paytriots just because they sell t-shirts. It's called capitalism. That argument is completely void.
We will all know soon enough who is real and who isn't. Don't ban speech. Don't ban conversation. I can't believe we're even discussing a ban.
This ought to be the stickied post.
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paytriot is when they force you to turn off adblock or sign up to hear what they have to say or if they really pushed their merch/talcum powder hard
Don't give in to the whiners.
Just like we don't link Alex Mossad Jones here, George is persona non grata, as well until the story clears up.
That's my vote, anyway.
Fair. No comments discussing George are being banned. Everyone is welcome to post new info or possible proof that they are legit. We are all waiting for a response from them that would vindicate them.
Loads of shills quacking about hive minds and group think. Lol. This forum is literally the antithesis of that.
Love this community. Screw confirmation bias. We aren’t hapless hopium addicts. My confidence in Q is totally unaffected.
Thank you Evspra and mods. And every other thoughtful member on here. ^_^b
This is getting frustrating, i have always been skeptical why they sell merch and take donations. Why haven’t we heard anything from Q? You think there would be something. Doesn’t even have to do with the plan. Q clearly sees us question everything to the point of us fighting about this
Q was to wake us up, not make us dependent on him right?
what you discovered is solid, and their defense of it was a joke. how about "banned until further notice"?
YEA, AND SCREW DUE PROCESS! STRAIGHT TO THE FIRING SQUAD AMIRITE??!!
this isnt a fucking courtroom. besides they already gave their defense, it was retarded.
I’m aware it’s not, I’m just making a point. Obviously you have upset a huge percentage of this community. You’re literally ruining the GAW movement as it exists here by pushing people OUT. Literally dude wtf are you doing we like this place but you are ruining it
...i think youve mistaken me for the mod who made this post?
people have been debunking george news all day. the counterpoints are seriously lacking. the community will be better if we just admit they played us and move on.
Yes you’re right I did mistake you for them
Who the fuck said it was a large majority? I've been arguing 'bout it on and off all day and it's usually the same 3-6 sad fucks that are probably in on the scam.
The idea of "outrage" over this is just as fake as social media outrage; it does not represent even a large portion of the platform, let alone the population.
Who said you were?
Huh???
You make it obvious this site is comped fuck off you guys banned me three times for practicing my 1st A I am done with this shit hole! GAB here I come!
You’ve made it more than clear you do not care about this community. You could fix it in an instant, in various different ways, and yet you don’t.
for example
you can request Doggos for a georgenews.win ? might actually work
u/Doggos This please :)
GeorgeNews peeps need a place to go to discuss and share content. They don’t want us here. Somebody I know was even banned from here for making a post earlier that lended unarguable credibility to GN. I mean wtf...
Do you think child porn shouldn't be allowed on these forums?
If so, "You fascist censoring pig violating my constitutional rights1!!11!!"
If not, I see that we have a pedo in our midst.
Censorship isn't black and white. Freedom of speech isn't, either. Construct a more nuanced argument with a more nuanced position.
Wtf? I’m a patriot you retard, illegal content is differentiated from content SOMEONE has subjectively decided isn’t safe for me to see.
Construct a logical argument with a more patriotic position.
If not, I see that we have a commie in our midst.
What if the government outlaws "Q discussion"? Isn't that illegal content, then, too? Isn't that content someone has subjectively decided isn't safe for you (or others)?
What about in the context of sharing the proof of Joe or Hunter Biden's depravity? I'm not saying I want to see it, but hypothetically speaking, shouldn't the same argument apply? Just because someone else has decided it isn't safe for me to see I shouldn't be able to see it?
Do you get what I'm saying? It's not as black and white as you're making it out to be. There isn't censorship or non-censorship. There's nuance. This forum was created with a purpose; the moderators are attempting to ensure that the forum remains focused to that purpose. If you doubt it, you can look back at their previous statements and/or the publicly available moderator logs.
Links are the only thing that are against the current rules. You are still allowed to talk about GN all you'd like.
Nobody has decided you can't go look at George News... not even Google, oddly enough. If you apply the rules of this forum to your life you have a lot of issues; if you don't, you'll realize that the rules of this forum and their enforcement do not at all hinder your freedom of speech or freedom of expression as constitutionally outlined. This forum isn't your property; if you want to have a forum where everything is allowed go to a different one, or make your own.
Are you even American? Your first point cannot be made to be illegal because it is a violation of freedom of speech and is therefore unconstitutional.
Censorship is censorship brotha, especially when it’s done in the same vein that MSM does it.
If I am reading your point correctly, what you’re basically saying, this forum is the same as every other big tech social media company, so if you don’t like it, go make your own. Right? “So what? We censor the content you post, but you can still visit it off site!” Lmao.
Yes, I will go to better platforms. Evaporated has ruined this place but also pulled back the veil on the commies that exist here.
Yes. Do you even understand that the government no longer gives a shit about the constitution? Legality isn't so simple as "I believe the constitution guarantees me the right to talk about it, so it's legal". We had a process for addressing the finer points of the law, and the legality of new laws, but that process has completely broken down. Therefore, the argument that "Illegal content is differentiated from content SOMEONE has subjectively decided isn't safe for me to see" falls apart. Define illegal content?!
This "censorship" isn't even remotely close to the same vein as the MSM. The MSM will ban DISCUSSION on top of links, and they won't stop there. They will hunt you down and ban you from literally everything they can. This forum will do no such thing.
There are "jurisdictions" to this all. There were laws before it became apparent that they would not be applied equally. Companies have the right to restrict your access to their platform, IF it is a private platform, NOT receiving the respective government benefits and protections of a sanctioned open-forum. Big tech claims to be an open forum, meaning they receive government benefits, but they are also supposed to be subject to the constitution rigidly. If they ceased receiving those government benefits, and actually followed their user contract instead of banning people for things that are not violations of that contract, they would have every right to censor you, on their platform, as communities.win in general does. They do not do this; they illegally censor, and they go well beyond their own jurisdiction to get you fired from any job, to dox you, and to, in general, ruin and unperson you. Unlike with this website, they will not just stop you from linking to the content, they will seek to destroy the content entirely as well, to prevent anyone from accessing it in any way.
To compare the actions of the moderators on this website to the actions of big tech is, frankly, absurd.
Not all censorship is bad. I, for one, support the censorship of child pornography. I support dedicated forums censoring to maintain the purpose of their forum. There is a time and a place for everything, and there are more rights than simply the right to freedom of expression. In some instances, these other rights supersede the freedom of expression. If they did not, there could be no justice.
I disagree with banning things. I think we need to keep an eye on things as anons. Regardless of if we believe it to be true or not. We keep an eye on many things we KNOaw not to be true, like CNN and all the bullshit out in the world right now. George News should not be outlawed because someone on here decided to deem themselves the leader. No offense Evspra, but you are just another anon. We all contribute here.
Honestly, I didn't follow them super close, but when I saw the sudden ban, i thought it was a bit much. However, after seeing actual research done into them, I see why it was done. Now, I still have no personal opinion on whether or not to withhold the ban, but at the very least, we all need to hold a skeptical eye on GN
Evspra a question. So they are thieves for posting others content? Does everyone who post here ask and get permission to link or use their content?
Wouldnt your time be better spent at the front gate fending off the obvious shills and trolls? Is Dave @X22 next? How about Patriot Streetfighter? Ive wasted enough time on this subject. Just keep in mind (some) trolls are now voting to get rid of Georgenews.
It's almost Stolen Valor
Ive been on there a long while, Farming money? You're shitlist? I believe the picture is getting clearer, now and the smoke is clearing.
Lift the ban but delete all links and low effort posts related to George. Allow any constructive, rational and sceptical discussion about their content and its authenticity (or lack there of).
As others have noted, I think the evidence that has been presented should be of great concern to anyone who followed their channel. However, I don't believe it's necessarily damning... Yet. I think they will be forced to show their hand very soon either way.
Another way it could be handled is by having a bot that automatically comments with the arguments against them when someone posts about George. I know that's possible on reddit but can it be done on win too?
George Soros?
Newbie here but figured I would chime in. Keep the ban but give them a chance to explain themselves should they want to do that. Have someone, like a moderator, privately reach out to them for comment like reporters used to do before they became sell-outs.
If they don't want, or care, to defend themselves then they've effectively plead "no contest" and the damning information stands as should the ban. It's exactly how the legal system in this country is supposed to work, seems fitting.
Mods already reached out, promptly got banned for asking.
Well that makes that decision an easy one. That genuinely bothers me they would do that, though it isn't unexpected. It's a shame Evspra got attacked so bad for trying to minimize the intrusion of what equates to a false prophet for the Q movement. This is an information war and we can't allow bad actors any quarter on our side of the battlefield.
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Just an example of how such efforts were to establish credibility here (aside from spam-like daily posts establishing GN chat connections to Q crumbs).
Arguing with folks on and off all day about this (in support of your actions). It seems like it's just a few, and, much like GN did themselves, after some mild pressing they rapidly degrade to personal attacks instead of debate.
I think they might be associated/affiliated with whatever entity has been running GN, and they're so upset because their sweet gravy train is coming to an end.
I wonder how long it will be until "insiders" at CNN speak up about how they infiltrated and played the Q community, and gloat about "how gullible they are".
Makes me sick.
Stay strong out there, keep fighting for what's right regardless of what the morons say. At the end of the day, remember that a good lot of them might not even be real (or at least, distinct/individuals, you know what I mean).
God bless!