On this specific issue I would LOVE to see the sheriff meet the feds at the county line. Afraid there aren't enough deputies? Deputize the population. I guarantee there are enough people to push back.
The governor can call out the national guard. I want to see the feds met by guys in Humvees with 50 cals mounted to them. A solid fuck you and the horse you road in on.
Arpaio. I would say he defeated himself by being proud and stubborn. He was not by any means a universal hero around here, and all the things he did that worked, like Tent City and looking for illegals in the places they hang out, were areas that could be attacked by "advocates." The newspaper did so incessantly, especially after years of Joe being sued over everything, which cost the county over $1 million and no end in sight. Eventually Soros came along and mounted a version of BLM called Basta Ya! (enough already). That was before the machines and Joe lost to Penzone, Soros candidate. I think Arpaio was effective at rounding up bad guys and reducing recidivism, but he couldn't navigate the politics.
Always did wonder about the Q post - "why are trips allowed? Whitelist"
And then the delta, and then FakeBiden trips. 3 times. 3 "Bidens"? Real (dead), Fake 1 - whitelist (DC Woods), and Fake 2 - whitelist (Tyler Perry studios)
I think they have pretty much proven they are above the law. They do what they want, when they want, to whomever they want. Regardless of the law. Until someone stops them. This is our reality.
I've come to the conclusion that the Texas case last fall was designed to be thrown out for this exact reason (also to prove Gorsuch, Kav and ACB's independence from Trump). It was a preemptive move in the event that Cali+NY or the Feds try to interfere with the other states as this process unfolds.
Could you kindly go further into detail? How will it turn out in our favor? I do understand that if the feds intervene this may violate the constitution, but I miss the bigger picture. Do you mean AZ can have a case before SCOTUS?
I would also love to hear more about your conclusion, u/quai24.
I'm not a lawfag by any means, but I think I understand game theory well enough at this point.
I don't believe that the plan was ever to have SCOTUS single handedly fix the election. It may have been the right thing to do, given the degree of fraud, but the precedent it would set would could very easily spiral out of control in the future. The Constitution is very clear, the state legislatures have sole jurisdiction over how elections are conducted in their respective states, so it would make sense that they would be the ones to uncover and act on the fraud.
It is important to note, the Texas case was dismissed based on standing, not on its merits. We may not have been thrilled at the time, but that dismissal in itself set a sort of precedent, namely that states, even multiple states, do not have the standing to interfere in the way in which elections are conducted in other states. Can you imagine if they had taken it and ruled for Texas? We would have states suing each other every time they had an election with whose results another state government was less than pleased. It may have even opened the way for the Feds to start doing the same. A true Pandora's box.
Another side effect of the dismissal is that no one can argue at this point that Gorsuch, Kavanaugh and Barrett are Trump lackeys, since they all voted to dismiss. Alot of us are pissed at them still, but looking back, it was the correct decision, constitutionally. The left will still try, but we have a simple response now to shut them up. They could have given Trump his 2nd term single handedly, and they chose not to.
So we have now Arizona. Let's say the audit is completed, fraud is proven in sufficient amounts to swing the state. The state legislature votes to declare fraud and revokes its electors from Biden. Under the precedent set by the dismissal of Texas v. PA, deep blue states like CA and NY cannot do anything to intervene, as they have no standing to interfere in another state's electoral processes. Even if they did try to sue, their case could be thrown out in the same way, and no one could claim that SCOTUS was biased, as they threw out the Texas case for the same reason.
I think the Swamp knows this too, as pretty much every move they are making at this point with regards to the audit is geared towards muddying the waters and preparing their talking points for when this shit inevitably hits the fan. Any legal avenue they may have had to stop this thing has been exhausted, and had SCOTUS taken the Texas case, opening the way for states to interfere in one another's elections, we might be in a very different situation.
Given the above, I do believe that the Texas case was pre-emptive, made with the intention of having it thrown out. By suing to overturn other states' elections, however fraudulent they may have been, and getting it dismissed, they actually ended up taking a massive number of moves off the board for the enemy, and gave cover for Republican legislatures in AZ, MI, GA, etc. to do their part, without CA+NY or DC interfering.
Thank you very much for your detailed response. Yes, I had the same feeling about the Texas case. (Although I did love the lawsuit, it was so well written and full of facts!) Your input re: examples of game theory were really interesting. Especially when one considers that Trump just now returns to the public with his "almost Twitter feed" (feels like back in the old days). I'm looking forward to see what happens!
To anyone that has been asleep for the past year, the DOJ and FBI do no work for "the people". They work for the left and DS. The people pay their salaries and their offices and staff but they don't work for them. So, who can the people turn to when they are victims of crime? Think maybe we need a major house cleaning in this country? Maybe it's time for the Military to do it's thing and re-install Trump to get things back on track?
As we've seen in recent times... Emotions hold more weight these days over boring technical "Law". We need to replace these cowardly prosecutors and judges, put in people who don't cave to public pressure, and actually DO THEIR JOB to UPHOLD THE LAW!
DC is nothing but a cesspool of corruption.....even if DJT does get back in office I vote that we find him another place to set up camp.....anywhere but DC!!!!!!!
As if our current federal government cares about laws. They think they're above the laws.
On this specific issue I would LOVE to see the sheriff meet the feds at the county line. Afraid there aren't enough deputies? Deputize the population. I guarantee there are enough people to push back.
Too bad our sheriff in Maricopa is another Soros stooge. He also was re-elected this time and may have his own butt to consider.
State police then?
The governor can call out the national guard. I want to see the feds met by guys in Humvees with 50 cals mounted to them. A solid fuck you and the horse you road in on.
That would be DPS. I have no info pro or con about them.
LOL so he's in on it. LOL
These people are stupid.
I believe it was those damn machines that defeated Ahpiro(spelling?)
Arpaio. I would say he defeated himself by being proud and stubborn. He was not by any means a universal hero around here, and all the things he did that worked, like Tent City and looking for illegals in the places they hang out, were areas that could be attacked by "advocates." The newspaper did so incessantly, especially after years of Joe being sued over everything, which cost the county over $1 million and no end in sight. Eventually Soros came along and mounted a version of BLM called Basta Ya! (enough already). That was before the machines and Joe lost to Penzone, Soros candidate. I think Arpaio was effective at rounding up bad guys and reducing recidivism, but he couldn't navigate the politics.
Fair enough, you would definitely know more than me on this?? Thanks for the update.
Y'all shoulda kept sheriff Joe and his pink jumpsuits lmao. That boy don't play
Don't really need to. Want to make it a Constitutional discussion? This is the reason there's a 2 A. It was never about sport or hunters.
This. 10000x this.
Oooh…. I like you!
Nope. Not a smidgen of military. But I heard Katy Perry says to get vaxxed, so there's CA's contribution I guess
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We don't have a current government... impostrrs playing their parts is all.
My favorite speculation is James Woods as Biden.
Always did wonder about the Q post - "why are trips allowed? Whitelist"
And then the delta, and then FakeBiden trips. 3 times. 3 "Bidens"? Real (dead), Fake 1 - whitelist (DC Woods), and Fake 2 - whitelist (Tyler Perry studios)
No but Arizona does.
I think they have pretty much proven they are above the law. They do what they want, when they want, to whomever they want. Regardless of the law. Until someone stops them. This is our reality.
I've come to the conclusion that the Texas case last fall was designed to be thrown out for this exact reason (also to prove Gorsuch, Kav and ACB's independence from Trump). It was a preemptive move in the event that Cali+NY or the Feds try to interfere with the other states as this process unfolds.
Good point on "no standing".
Could you kindly go further into detail? How will it turn out in our favor? I do understand that if the feds intervene this may violate the constitution, but I miss the bigger picture. Do you mean AZ can have a case before SCOTUS?
I would also love to hear more about your conclusion, u/quai24.
Thank you very much in advance!
I'm not a lawfag by any means, but I think I understand game theory well enough at this point.
I don't believe that the plan was ever to have SCOTUS single handedly fix the election. It may have been the right thing to do, given the degree of fraud, but the precedent it would set would could very easily spiral out of control in the future. The Constitution is very clear, the state legislatures have sole jurisdiction over how elections are conducted in their respective states, so it would make sense that they would be the ones to uncover and act on the fraud.
It is important to note, the Texas case was dismissed based on standing, not on its merits. We may not have been thrilled at the time, but that dismissal in itself set a sort of precedent, namely that states, even multiple states, do not have the standing to interfere in the way in which elections are conducted in other states. Can you imagine if they had taken it and ruled for Texas? We would have states suing each other every time they had an election with whose results another state government was less than pleased. It may have even opened the way for the Feds to start doing the same. A true Pandora's box.
Another side effect of the dismissal is that no one can argue at this point that Gorsuch, Kavanaugh and Barrett are Trump lackeys, since they all voted to dismiss. Alot of us are pissed at them still, but looking back, it was the correct decision, constitutionally. The left will still try, but we have a simple response now to shut them up. They could have given Trump his 2nd term single handedly, and they chose not to.
So we have now Arizona. Let's say the audit is completed, fraud is proven in sufficient amounts to swing the state. The state legislature votes to declare fraud and revokes its electors from Biden. Under the precedent set by the dismissal of Texas v. PA, deep blue states like CA and NY cannot do anything to intervene, as they have no standing to interfere in another state's electoral processes. Even if they did try to sue, their case could be thrown out in the same way, and no one could claim that SCOTUS was biased, as they threw out the Texas case for the same reason.
I think the Swamp knows this too, as pretty much every move they are making at this point with regards to the audit is geared towards muddying the waters and preparing their talking points for when this shit inevitably hits the fan. Any legal avenue they may have had to stop this thing has been exhausted, and had SCOTUS taken the Texas case, opening the way for states to interfere in one another's elections, we might be in a very different situation.
Given the above, I do believe that the Texas case was pre-emptive, made with the intention of having it thrown out. By suing to overturn other states' elections, however fraudulent they may have been, and getting it dismissed, they actually ended up taking a massive number of moves off the board for the enemy, and gave cover for Republican legislatures in AZ, MI, GA, etc. to do their part, without CA+NY or DC interfering.
Thank you very much for your detailed response. Yes, I had the same feeling about the Texas case. (Although I did love the lawsuit, it was so well written and full of facts!) Your input re: examples of game theory were really interesting. Especially when one considers that Trump just now returns to the public with his "almost Twitter feed" (feels like back in the old days). I'm looking forward to see what happens!
TwoBearArms is the same. Deport these cunts.
Orchestrated, or accounted for? That's the question here. I would hope SCOTUS is not following orders of anyone. But who knows?
Something in the rights about forming militias, bear arms, infringing stuff or not. Cant quite remember...
To anyone that has been asleep for the past year, the DOJ and FBI do no work for "the people". They work for the left and DS. The people pay their salaries and their offices and staff but they don't work for them. So, who can the people turn to when they are victims of crime? Think maybe we need a major house cleaning in this country? Maybe it's time for the Military to do it's thing and re-install Trump to get things back on track?
As we've seen in recent times... Emotions hold more weight these days over boring technical "Law". We need to replace these cowardly prosecutors and judges, put in people who don't cave to public pressure, and actually DO THEIR JOB to UPHOLD THE LAW!
The gov did not mind having the election stolen through an in your face fraud. You think they give a shit about laws?
Precisely, my dear Watson. Precisely.
IMPEACH
They are overreaching and waking up more people by doing so.
Which anons are lost or confused?
The FEDS have no jurisdiction here. NONE!
What's so hard to figure out about that?
DC is nothing but a cesspool of corruption.....even if DJT does get back in office I vote that we find him another place to set up camp.....anywhere but DC!!!!!!!
Am I feeling more hopium? Should I be?
indeed
That wasn’t a military court though
It matters to me!