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Giuliani’s Law License Suspension Is Unconstitutional, Dershowitz Says... (www.theepochtimes.com)
posted 4 years ago by purkiss80 (context) 4 years ago by purkiss80 +577 / -0
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– inspoken 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

The guy is an amazing true patriot. You see someone's colors when the swamp literally deals damage. Yes he took on the mafia & he's gonna win this battle too.

Let me tell you something, I asked my liberal NYC friends, how did New York go from one of the most dangerous cities in the word to one of the safest places to be & they begrudgingly point to Giuliani! Credit from your foe counts very very high. That guy is the real deal

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– 45WonMinnesota 21 points 4 years ago +21 / -0

The corruption in New York is really something else. No wonder Trump left there for Florida when he could.

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– AmazingFlightLizard 17 points 4 years ago +17 / -0

Florida has its weirdos, but they’re mostly honest weirdos. Except for the sections of New York that were transplanted here, like Broward County

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– Mavdick96 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

Bunch of fucking carpet baggers, am I right?

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– MordenGeist 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Pretty much. I wish they'd be Gone with the Wind.

I'd take a pack of Snow Mexicans over them any day.

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– Phishhed44 11 points 4 years ago +11 / -0

Well Alan, then fight for Rudy?!!

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– basilpesto 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

^^^ indeed

It’s all commentary, talk.

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– Phishhed44 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Truth.

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– russiah 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

He fucking should, then he would earn some real respect.

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– Phishhed44 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Zackly that.

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– AngelCole 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

Half the shit they do is unconstitutional but that doesn't stop these demons. The Constitution is only as good as those who stand behind it kind of like a warrantee.

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– charleySmith 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

says pedophile island visitor, alan 'underwear' dershowitz

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– NobodyLikesSplatter 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

They wouldn’t look at a single one of his thousands of affidavits regarding election fraud. It’s all over him saying the presidential election was fraudulent. Of course, they said that very thing in 2016 about Pres Trump.

This stinks worse than most things they’ve done.

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– Icepck 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

I hope I live until the year 2916 then!

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– NobodyLikesSplatter 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Lol

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– FreedomFan1975 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Full text of article: Harvard Law professor emeritus Alan Dershowitz argued that the recent decision by a New York court to suspend former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani’s law license is flawed and unconstitutional.

“The courts have long held that a lawyer is not entitled to the full protection of the First Amendment for statements made in court. That may be understandable because a lawyer has a special obligation to be candid with judges and jurors,” he wrote in an opinion article published June 28, days after the state Supreme Court suspended Giuliani’s license over statements he made following the 2020 election.

Dershowitz, however, said he’s not aware of any compelling arguments for denying anyone, including a lawyer, of the First Amendment’s protection “when he or she participates in the marketplace of ideas on television, podcasts, or other media, even when representing a client.

“Any statements made in such a public context can be rebutted in the marketplace of ideas, and so the public needs no special protection from statements made by lawyers,” he contends. “This is especially true when the statements concern important and controversial political events like an election.”

The court on June 24 ruled that because Giuliani made “false and misleading” comments while he represented former President Donald Trump’s campaign, it concluded that the “respondent’s conduct immediately threatens the public interest and warrants interim suspension from the practice of law, pending further proceedings before the Attorney Grievance Committee.”

The court order stipulated that the former mayor’s suspension is temporary and is dependent on the outcoming of a pending hearing.

But Dershowitz, who also is a high-profile criminal lawyer, said that the court’s decision was based on vague reasoning.

“The rules under which Giuliani has been suspended are so vague that they cannot possibly satisfy the standards of due process, especially where public speech is concerned and clarity is required before it is suppressed,” he wrote in his opinion, published by The Hill. “If these rules were applied across the board fairly, and equitably, thousands of lawyers would be disbarred every year.

“I personally know of dozens of lawyers who seemingly have violated these rules. Lying and exaggeration are all too common in plea-bargaining, negotiations and soliciting clients. And yet these sins are never the basis for discipline against recidivating lawyers,” Dershowitz argued, claiming that the New York Supreme Court made Giuliani the “victim of selective suspension based on the political content of his public speech.”

Aside from the state Supreme Court’s ruling, Giuliani also could face a potential criminal investigation, after a federal judge appointed a special watchdog to review material that was recently seized from him. The watchdog, former federal Judge Barbara Jones, will determine what electronic files can be seen by prosecutors and what material should be exempt.****

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– Darwyn 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

So by this standard that means if Shifty Schiff or Eric Nuke'um Swallowswell are lawyers they should both be disbarred immediately right? I mean those two have been caught in so many public lies I would have trouble making a complete list. Is Pelosi a lawyer? I know Kamala is... DISBARRED. She lies constantly. Who else?

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– russiah 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

NY is not constitutional.

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– Island_Photo 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Toss the NY AG for corruption. Undo all her actions.

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– WinningAnyway 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

It's very obviously a crooked decision by criminals.

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– Gnometard 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Doesn't matter if nobody is going to fight it, right now.

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– Cat_Anon 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Even Epstein Island guest gets it.

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– unruly 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Does Michael Avenatti still have his license? Or the Tomey freak from CNN?

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– inspoken 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Dersh has some very deep connections with many swamplings but he does seem to be on our side. I'm glad he's speaking out. Bless him

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– pcpoet 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

the Epstein claims I wonder about....it stands to reason that some of the girls making claims are also active participants in making false claims. this is a black mail operation and if you dont have some one doing controlled releases of info why would those being blackmailed fear there black mail.....not saying he is not a pedo just that everything needs to be examined, most likely he is guilty.

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– inspoken 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Look Dersh was Epsteins Lawyer. This is common knowledge. Yeah a client can do stuff his lawyer doesn't know about but that was ALL THAT EPSTEIN DID, 24/7. Even when he was in prison the 1st time he was somehow able to arrange female minors to see him for something. I mean while serving a sentence! Dersh would have to be pretty stupid not to have a clue

Then again, that's a lawyers job. idk what do say about it. Q seems to say that Dersh is on our side & it does seem to be the case. That's a good thing, we need people knowledgeable of the swamp

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– _thorn_ 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

''...Giuliani also could face a potential criminal investigation, after a federal judge appointed a special watchdog to review material that was recently seized from him. The watchdog, former federal Judge Barbara Jones, will determine what electronic files can be seen by prosecutors and what material should be exempt.''

Here, remember Giuliani's got some damning evidence on the biden administration, if I recall correctly. However, this statement makes me wonder if this judge Jones can exempt it from discovery?

Didn't the computer repairman deliver a mirror of Hunter's laptop's harddrive to Giuliani?

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– AmberWins 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Dersh of the Epstein plane fame? I can't figure out which way he goes.

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– inspoken 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

I think he goes both ways but he seems to be on our side so that's good

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– Anon6992374 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I'm always surprised to see Dershowitz stick up for anyone on this side given how many times his name is on Epstein's flight logs. (Spoiler: it's a LOT).

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– Boozy_McFuckFace 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

He may not be a child fucker. The blackmail didn’t have to be exclusively for pedophiles, that wouldn’t be practical at all. What if you wanted to corrupt people that were relatively normal? Not just pedophiles?

Not saying the guy is innocent, but think of the kind of business deals you could make by being in that circle? His corruption may have been directly business and finance related.

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– Anon6992374 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

He was Epstein's personal lawyer for years. Attorney client privilege doesn't apply to future crimes, and I find it hard to believe he didn't know about the trafficking.

He may not have engaged in the crimes, but if he knew about them and said nothing, he's just as guilty.

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– suave200 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

he said he left his undershorts on for his massages.

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– ImaSueDeNym 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Eh, guilt by association isn't really a good tactic. Hell, Trump has been listed on Epstein's flight logs. Dershowitz just bends whichever way the wind is currently blowing.

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– Anon6992374 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

So then, same benefit of doubt goes to everyone else on his flight logs?

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– ImaSueDeNym 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I simply think it's important to be objective and to not have double standards. I tell liberals I argue with that guilt by association isn't valid when they bring up all the stuff about President Trump and Epstein being friends for a long time. And yes, I know that President Trump long ago denounced Epstein and helped the DA prosecute him. But does that matter to liberals? Nope.

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– Anon6992374 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I also don't recall seeing Trump on any of the flight logs. Can you point to one where he was?

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– ImaSueDeNym 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Some time in January of 1997. Epstein's flight logs were unsealed by the court a couple of years ago. There are several places where you can download the flight logs.

I use the one on Scribd, just because I already have a subscription to them.

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– FourRosesBourbonV2 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

This is another political ploy to frighten anyone who supports Trump into submission and silence.

It won’t work...

We are all aware Biden is targeting Christians, Jews, Trump supporters, Pro-family, Pro-Life, Pro-Republic, Pro-Business groups in order to turn the United States into a servant of Communism and China.

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– Bedminster 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Zero hearing and they do this. This is nothing more than stazi style that is wholly unconstitutional. Rudy needs to file suite.

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– inspoken 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Before you know it they will be begging him to be mayor again.

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– magachudd 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Is this the same Dershowitz who allegedly said that vaccines should be mandatory? And was buddies with Jeffrey Epstein? Is this the same one?

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– inspoken 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Correct

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