I've been trying to spread the red love. I have a co-worker, army vet, who I've been philosophizing with. I mean hours of discussion where I've shown him videos of Dr. Malone and the front line doctors, the studies coming out from countries with high vax rates and now high breakout cases, where the Pfizer exec admitted to the Texas Senate about the outcome of animal trials, etc.
This morning he sent me this email:
Good morning,
Sharing
I'm vaccinated and, no, I don't know what's in it - neither this vaccine, the ones I had as a child, nor in the Big Mac, or in hot dogs, or in other treatments…whether it's for cancer, AIDS, the one for polyarthritis, or vaccines for infants or children. I trust my doctor when he says it’s needed.
I also don't know what's in Ibuprofen, Tylenol, or other meds, it just cures my headaches & my pains ... I don't know what's in the ink for tattoos, vaping, or every ingredient in my soap or shampoo or even deodorants. I don’t know the long-term effect of cell phone use or whether or not that restaurant I just ate at REALLY used clean foods and washed their hands.
In short ... There's a lot of things I don't know and never will… I just know one thing: life is short, very short, and I still want to do something other than just going to work every day or staying locked in my home. I still want to travel and hug people without fear and find a little feeling of life "before".
As a child and as an adult I've been vaccinated for mumps, measles, rubella, polio, chicken pox, and quite a few others; my parents and I trusted the science and never had to suffer through or transmit any of said diseases ... just saying.
And for international travel, I got a ton more immunizations
If you are not vaccinated, I respect your choice, I am vaccinated, please respect mine ...
I got vaccinated, not to please the government but:
- To reduce the chance of dying from Covid-19 without my loved ones at my side.
- To NOT require a hospital bed if I get sick.
- To hug my loved ones
- To Not have to do PCR or antigenic tests to go out dancing, go to a restaurant, go on holidays and many more things to come ...
- To live my life.
- For Covid-19 to be an old memory.
- To protect us.
I’m weary of seeing people dying to this disease.
I've typed up the following response but haven't sent it yet. At this point, it's too late so should I even bother sending?
There is a HUGE difference between the vaccines and a newly developed, dna-altering technology. There is also a difference between something that has been approved and around for years v. something with less than 1 year's worth of human trial studies for a product that had a 100% fatality rate within 3 years of animal studies. That being said, it is absolutely your choice to willfully and ignorantly put anything in you if you aren’t sure of the ingredients, especially if the effects can’t be reversed. Prayers for you that your doctor knows better than the specialists who have come out against this, especially Dr. Malone, the inventor of this mRNA delivery method. :(
UPDATE: I decided to not send anything. I've seen multiple people reply this is floating around the interzones and he may not have actually written this. Sorry, my twatter/FB accounts have long been nuked so I'm not seeing those platforms. Really aside from here and Telegram, I'm off social media.
I want to say the reason I tried to reason with him specifically was because he is a Vet. We are going to need all the help we can get on our side. Every day I hear shit about UN troops on our soil, illegals flooding our borders, Chinese troops on the northern border, subs off our coast and now Potatus has made us look like weak, spinless pussies to the rest of the world.
I keep hearing "the military is the only way." But if my co-worker feels like this, you have to wonder how many other former and especially active-duty people feel like this? Would the military really not turn against the American people? What if they honestly believe the unvaxxed are the enemy?
my younger brother and I tried for 2 hours to stop our older brother from getting the vax. He got it. Once they have taken it arguing is futile. He said he respected your opinion, you need to let it go. In fact, you should send him a reply saying simply, "while I disagree with your decision, it is your body and your life, it is your decision. Thank you for respecting my decision."
that makes sense, hopefully OP follows, I agree with your thoughts.
I do not agree. The people going along with this are enabling the destruction of society.
We don't necessarily have to get into full-blown arguments with them, but respecting their decision is off the table, IMO.
Honored? Not with all the shitty reasons he listed for getting it.
Fuck that.
You tell them they have consciously made a choice to ignore evil and by doing so are complicit. They have consciously chosen to ignore tyranny. They do so for nothing more than a little comfort in the short term. But their chains are forged.
Will they accept a third dose of a "vaccine" that still requires you to wear a mask and social distance? A vaccine that on the label says it does not make you immune? A vaccine for a disease that has a 99.98 percent chance of survival? Will you accept the fourth dose? The fifth and sixth?
Because that is where this is headed. The goalposts will never stop moving because as the tyrants move them they move us closer to slavery. That is their goal. That is why they created kungflu.
You will never be free. Your fear will only grow worse because they want you scared so you accept their vaxx cards and eventually chip you like chattel.
Your decision is yours but I can no longer be associated with a person who is so willfully ignorant. If you begin to see the light and want to talk I am here but until that point, Goodbye.
Id say this to anyone in my life including family. I will not abide the destruction of the human race through medical or other tyranny.
Hard truths need to be said no matter the personal consequences. Telling them the shit people in this thread suggest is enabling pure stupidity by the people and pure evil by the cabal.
Once again, Fuck that.
With all due respect, this approach is no different than what the authoritarian vaxx cult takes when they constantly scream, "just get the shot, you don't know better than the experts"
It doesn't work and convinces no one to change their position.
If all we want is to be left alone, we have take a 'live and let live' attitude as well.
So your answer is to coddle them and say no worries itll all be ok.
If that's seriously what you got from my response, nothing I say is going to register in your head.
I will continue to try and broadcast the truth, I will welcome back and comfort those who have seen the light, but I will no longer provide succor to those who are willfully ignorant.
We all have the same resources to educate ourselves. We all have close personal relationships with people who are awake to the truth and can provide us additional resources. Those who refuse to see truth do so willingly. And in my mind that is complicity.
I respect the fight in you. After 25 years of getting crushed by cognitive dissonance and government, I'm...I don't know...fucked up?
A gentle push in the right direction is all I can manage when talking with people. I've never given up, but the slightest nudge is the best I've accomplished here and there.
How long have you been in the war?
At first, I was on board with the responses crafted to preserve the relationship. Reading your response, i thought well yea, what if we substituted vaccine with the open use of heroine? With the wearing of satanic costumes?
I tried to think of a my body my choice position that obviously impacts the surrounding milieu in a negative way.
While we can endorse personal freedom, we need not enable with a kumbaya attitude that preserves a friendship with someone so willing to serve evil. For any reason.
100% -- this is the least confrontational response and doesn't try to antagonize the person (which never works).
Even that is too much. It sounds like a desperate attempt to get the last word in.
I think you have to say something so the friend doesn't think he doesn't want to speak to him again. But you are right, less is more in this case.
Say something to the effect that “it is refreshing to have communication with reasoned adults who respect each other’s opinions and are willing to listen”... you’d have to massage that more, but you get the drift.
Maybe just a - I'm here for you if you ever want to talk
that works too.
I agree with this comment. I am starting to see that this is the latest hot topic on this board - vaccine red pill conversations.
They are circular and futile unless the other person wants to know more. It becomes a thorn in a relationship. Their minds are made up. Our minds are made up. Information itself will not make a difference, only physical reality.
This doesn't mean you stop spreading red pills, but you cannot make them agree and the act of trying to make them agree is just as bad as what they try to do to us. Its almost another form of shaming and it only causes problems.
OP should let this go and focus on prepping for the GA and sharing info to those who will listen, but without force. NCSWIC and we have to start making difficult choices about how to address the change. It is unfortunate, but the state of things.
I was wondering what the precipice would look like and it is now becoming much clearer.
What do you think it will be? Mass casualties?
This. You should do what you ask he give you. Some things can't be resolved in this life.
reads like copypasta black pill
sorry "i want to hug people without fear"
fucking grow up.
😂
Eh, The man is a vet, while yes, many seem not to want to get this gene therapy shot they are passing off as a vaccine others will just follow along with it. As was stated in the email, he was military and in the military they mandate shots of all types before you deploy to other countries. Running dark-joke is "I am surprised I do not glow in the dark by now." Makes you realize, active duty military self sacrifice in more ways that you think out there so that citizens at the homeland don't have to.
Exactly, I tried to reason specifically because he was a Vet. We are going to need all the help we can get on our side. Every day I hear shit about UN troops on our soil, illegals flooding our borders, Chinese troops on the northern borders. I keep hearing the military is the only way. But if he feels like this, you have to wonder how many other former and especially active-duty people feel like this. Would the military really not turn against the American people? What if they honestly believe the unvaxxed are the enemy?
on your face!
This absolutely is a copy paste job. I've seen the same bullshit posted over the past few days on other boards. Someone likely fed this response to him. Sad.
NPC's...
I've seen it around as well
Yup! Few of my FB friends have posted this.
It is a copy/paste propaganda. A friend posted the exact same, word for word, today.
Same here. I saw it on, of course, Facebook.
My grandmother literally just pasted this as her FB status. So either this person that OP was talking to wrote something thats now circulating like crazy with the FB crowd or, more than likely, this person that OP was talking to is still a sheep and doesn't know how to think for themselves and just copy pasta sent him this.
I️ have seen this text a couple times already. It's making it's rounds in the blue-pilled communities
That’s a copypasta going around social media.
Know what’s funny?
YOU CAN LOOK UP ALL THE INGREDIENTS OF ALL OF THESE THINGS EXCEPT FOR THE VAX YOU FUCKING SMOOTH BRAINS
Seriously and who the hell stickied this doomer post in the first place?!
Stupid shit always gets stickied in GA
Ya this kind of take is so dumb when you have all of this information right in your pocket. You're just either too stupid to understand or too lazy to bother looking.
I've seen a lot of this lately, claiming we don't know what's in certain foods, but we still eat them...which is true, but those certain foods have been around for decades, etc. etc.
idiots.
these people refuse to learn.
If i were you, I wouldn't even try to explain, just tell him you're sorry he can't see what you see, as you feel it's important, and leave it at that.
If he even has the capability to learn, he'll find out shortly that you were right and all will be forgiven.
Actually, we DO know what's in foods if we just look at the ingredients. They don't list the ingredients of the death VAX. Because some blue haired liberal POS is too lazy to look it up is not the same as the ingredients being secret.
The difference between known unknowns, and the unknown unknowns.
Shouldn't you be in Iraq?
I wish I knew. Which means, of course, that I'm actually in the state of IWIK.
good point. but then I'd also have to say, do we 'really' know what's in the foods? we shouldn't be trusting anything 'they' tell us.
I dont eat Big Macs precisely cause I don’t know what’s in them so the points this is making is fucking stupid
Eating foods is now the same as injecting IM/IV according to "science" followers. What happens if I swallow a large air bubble? What happens if I inject a large air bubble?
Retards.
Maybe they have a point. We do not know what's in many processed foods at all, or how our food is prepared at a restaurant. Maybe we should strive to only eat what we have prepared ourselves, at home, with the freshest ingredients possible. Maybe we should switch off fluoride based toothpaste. Maybe our shampoos, creams, etc are full of toxins and we should research natural soaps. Maybe drinking Only water is the way to go, and anything you can buy bottled at the supermarket isn't good for our health. Just because we have been doing something ignorantly for most of our lives doesn't mean it has been positive or healthy for us.
I quit 95% of processed foods a few years ago. Fresh veggies and organic meats as best I can. I tell you what, a lot of my health issues subsided.
My next step is going to farmers markets and local butchers and farms for everything.
I truly believe the USDA and the FDA do not care about Americans, only the money they can make for themselves and their cronies. Make us sicker with processed food so we need to get pills from Big Pharma to fix it.
I can imagine how much good you did for your health. I will buy as fresh as I can. Also gotta drop the energy drinks. Much work!
Why not quit that other 5%.. sounds weak
Right? I mean, what’s wrong with me? 🤣
it's a false equivalency. and of course we're not saying processed foods are good for you, but we're able to see their consequences through our own experiences. the same can't be said with the experimental shot, so it's not a good comparison.
Yes, exactly. This is our opportunity to realize and break free of the shit, not to say "Well, you can't be sure of anything, so why try? Just dive in and take ALL OF IT!"
Agreed! Well said.
The fuck are you still eating processed foods for?
Laziness, unfortunately. I want to change, though.
Don't eat processed foods! Do not use fluoride toothpaste. Do not use chemical household or beauty products. I have not done any of these things in 20 years. It is NOT THAT HARD. I have scrutinized everything I take in, and it makes all the difference in the world.
It may be hard, but you're right, it's worth giving them up. I will work towards achieving what you have in this respect. Do you perhaps have any resource where all natural alternatives are explained or did you just individually search online for each product?
Well Eve tempted Adam with an Apple,
But i ain’t falling for that!
I'm falling for your pink Cadillac
Well, it should make some people think about what is in the food, if they have not bothered.. The more I know, the more I dont eat the shit. heh
I wouldn't reply.
Your silence will appear deafening.
This is the correct answer. If you keep pushing you’ll just make your friend mad.
Agree. More facts will not change his mind. And then you will not hear back from him anyway. I suggest leaving it alone and respecting his willful ignorance.
My attempt: "No, you're right. You should get out there and LIVE, dammit! Because you are right: your life is now very short."
Leave off willfully and ignorantly. If he had put in something similar I would say use that language because it sure as hell is accurate. If you don't antagonize him he may actually pay attention to what you say. Doubt it though.
I agree. The key phrase is 'I'm weary.' Empathize with that - remember this is a tactic. It is why they gaslight so much. To wear you down. You might say something like "We are all weary. I get it. I want to do all if those things too. I don't like to see people die. But this isn't the answer."
Don't make him feel stupid - he will just balk. There was either a Q post or a meme, I can't remember (coffee still kicking in) where people were rock climbing and lending hands to pull one another up. It may have been one of the early WWG1WGA posts. Anyway, you might have a better chance of pulling him up - even if he does not respond right away. As FLOTUS says- Be best.
Brain-washed (like so many)
It's called cognitive dissonance. You cannot win, your friend's reality is cracking. Just send a note back telling your friend you love them and all your info comes from a place of love. Then, subject change to something you both agree about...
lol, yeah.. I have a long term (bout 8yrs) "lefty" gaming friend and gal pal, we have had tons of fun over the years pranking each other in games, at one point were both admin on an MC server, people thought I was the angel and she was the dark one.. but, we where actually both just having a blast pranking each other and often the players but, not in a disruptive way. But, when the shit hit the fan last year, eh.. just say, I am all for freedom. she is a double jab double masker, Anti Trump type... have gotten into some pretty bad arguments because, it is really like we live in two different realities.. so we haven't talked much and when we do, we have to change the subject often .. cuz through it all.. we both feel like respecting each others choices even if those choices are a hot zone. I think we will survive this in the end, just need to keep the tone mellow fellow between each other or something.. She can not change my mind and I can not change hers.
A simple “lol k” will suffice
This 👆
My 2 cents.
I would not send it.
It is clear he does not want to hear anymore. Likely he has taken all you have said to heart and is probably afraid, but it is too late. He is vaxxinated. There is nothing he or you can do about it. Let him just live with his decision. It is a BIG thing to realize that you may have taken something into your body that will hasten your death. He did what he was programmed to do. To find out that everything you have relied on as true your entire life is a complete lie, is one BIG PILL to swallow. Hearing about it over and over is not going to make it any better.
I have refrained from telling people I care for about the vaxx details. There is nothing they can do. Maybe there is some mediation steps they can take but what is done is done.
It is sad to know that these people may soon suffer but who knows. We could be completely wrong and they are right. Unless someone showed up with some irrefutable cosmic book that tells us the meaning of life, we won't know...
These NPCs no longer care if they live or die as long as they follow the other sheep. My own friends told me this. They took the shot because at this point theh don’t care if it kills them.
Yes exactly! I do not consent!
There’s no need to respond. He told you he knows he’s in the matrix and he wants to stay that way. No red pill for him.
Damn. Astute observation.
Personally, I wouldn't follow through. Just leave him alone and move on to someone who is on the fence and more receptive.
NPCs are de-moralized. This doesn't mean they are sad, it means they have been de-personed de-humanised, had their individual moral agency removed, that is the nuance of "Demoralisation".
When you are demoralised in this sense you get your morals from the artificer of the new morals, in this case it is the state and MSM and whatever else. You think you are showing them evidence and they will look at it, you are using rational argumentation against someone who is looking at everything as an ethical value.
Their brain uses the state as a surrogate brain and nothing else will go in. They have been de-moralised, they no longer have moral agency. Look, watch this.
Aborting kids is fine Circumcisions/genital mutilation is fine Fucking kids is (semi) fine Transvestite kids is fine Queer kids is fine Hormone therapy on kids is fine Sending kids to war is fine Smacking kids is not fine
You're wasting your breath on these "people", they have been brainwashed by better people at it than you and deprogramming someone takes basically a long time and a psychologist, you aren't qualified to do that nor are most people and the time it needs is prohibitive. Get your supplies in, take care of your own.
The problem with the “justification” for getting the jab expressed above is the fact that because you consent, we will eventually “get back to normal” is the furthest thing from the truth! Because you consent, this tyranny will never end. You think you’ll be able to travel freely, or that you’ll be able to freely eat in any restaurant you want, or to “live your live normally” (pre-covid), etc., you are dead wrong. You will become more and more enslaved. The deep state/cabal/NWO elitist consider 99% of the human population “useless eaters” and cattle. People need to wake up and realize that fact!
You have a friend you can talk to for hours about things. It doesn’t matter what you say, he got the vax so there is no point in arguing. Let him have the last word. Be gracious, be kind, be humble. Something like, “Love you, brother” will give him comfort and feel respected. Yeah, the dribble he sent was copy pasted—he knows it and you know it (we can read the ingredients list in everything), but who cares? Friendship is precious.
You made your choice, he's made his. It is what it is. Hopefully we're all totally wrong about this vaccine, and it ends up being safer than we think.
u/#q4115
If I were you, I would not send that message. The more you push, the more he'll resist. It's human nature. He will know the truth soon enough. They all will.
Yep last I tried that line they just doubled down on their retardation.
And that's why you (email sender, not OP) are part of the problem
He wants to hug his loved ones and live his life? I already do those things without the shot. I'm going to a huge family reunion soon, and I will be hugging people I haven't seen in a couple of years. We will be eating and talking, sitting close together.
I haven't got shot or tested, and refuse both.
He claims he's "weary of seeing people dying to this disease." I haven't seen that.
As hard as it can be, we have to let people make their own decisions.
If you impress your will upon another you're inviting the same to be done to you via the universal laws.
You don't have to be indifferent, but you must stay calm and allow others to make their mistakes in this life. There is no growth without the freedom to choose.
Maybe just let him know that you value your friendship with him and there is no love lost between you guys. You respect his decision and that needs to be mutual.
And most importantly, tell him he needs to pray to God!!
I think Mark Twain said it best:
“Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.”
His decision is made and he has already jumped off the cliff.
There is no need to shout and call him a loser as he falls.
Be kind. Save your powder for the booster shot. Now that he knows what he knows let’s hope he doesn’t keep on going and become a junkie.
Your co-worker won't be doing any of the things he wants to do if he's vaccine-injured or dead.
I don’t care that they get the shot.
STOP TRYING TO FORCE ME TO GET IT!
This is the same bull$hit me and all my smoker buddies used to tell ourselves and others. We’d say, “eating at McDonalds was probably worse than smoking”, we’d say it kept us thin, we’d say that if it shortened our lives who cares? Those are the years we’d be in a nursing home anyway- no thanks! It’s just coping with a decision that you KNOW it wrong/bad but really not wanting to admit it and also not wanting to stop it. There were a lot of really scary possibilities to deal with if we admitted smoking was bad/wrong and we just didn’t want to deal. It’s definitely a coping mechanism. I thank the Lord that I found Allen Carr’s Easy Way to Stop Smoking over 14 years ago and actually listened to what he had to say- the truth! I’ve never looked back never been tempted to smoke another cigarette (praise God!). I was freed from that death sentence. I just had to be brave and face the truth and the truth was astonishing, that was the beginning of waking up for me, I realized that a lot of people (most people) could really be fooled by some very evil people.
Don't bother. Their minds are made, along with their choices. As ours are also made. The line has been drawn in the sand. It's now time to fight for what we believe in, what we KNOW to be true, and for the very souls of humanity. The time for talk is over.
A friend of mine posted the same thing.
My point to her is that needing a vaxx to go dancing, shopping, etc. is tyranny, not freedom.
With a virus that has a 99.997 survival rate, you could still do those things! SMH
Sometimes a short response is called for. Problem with the vaccinated is that the confirmation bias is SO OVERWHELMING. It's just how we are wired. I don't bring up the issue with the vaccinated unless they say anything to me about it... or try to pressure me to get vaccinated. Then it's war.
I don't think there is a helpful way to respond. He pulled the trigger and he may end up paying the price this winter. Once the virus fully escapes the vaccine -- probably weeks to months away at this point as antibody levels wane globally -- those antibodies can only do him harm.
I'm sure you have already made the point that this shot is brand-new, lightly tested technology and only lasts 4-6 months. (I'm assuming they knew it only lasted 6 months and just didn't mention it - or else they had no idea how it worked).
I think some of your response is not technically correct though.
It's not really DNA altering. Reverse transcription is possible and has been observed to happen rarely but it's not known to be a big problem, and this can happen anyway with the RNA virus itself. The base mechanism does not modify DNA.
I'm not sure about the animal studies thing. I believe the 100% animal death was from vaccine research on SARS-1, using more traditional strategies. I've heard they skipped animal trials but I don't know for sure. Actually, the good news on these jabs is that the antibodies go away rapidly (which is one reason you need boosters). This suggests that long term B cell memory is not achieved, so if you just wait 6-8 months you should be in a lot less danger of ADE, OAS, or other problems.
He's right that we don't really know what's in most things we ingest, but we do know something about the outcomes, and VAERS data suggests there are problems. VAERS data for all those other vaccines... not so much. Claiming equivalency there is loopy.
IMO there are 2 major risks.
One is the problems caused by the spike proteins - clotting, strokes, heart attacks, brain fog, etc. This may be a short term risk, and that's what's causing all the VAERS reports. There may also be long term risks with microclotting and with the LNP (lipid nano particles) which maybe cause cancer or other problems.
The other is the danger to the immune system caused by the antibodies created. This probably goes away (since the antibodies seem to), but here the risk is of a mutation that induces ADE from vaccine antibodies. If that were to happen it would impact those most recently vaccinated or boosted, and could be devastating.
This article seems to suggest that this isn't that far from happening. It is an in-vitro study measuring antibody reactions to a delta virus with 4 added mutations, all of which are observed separately in the wild. They demonstrate total escape and enhancement from "Delta4+"
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.22.457114v1.full.pdf
Maybe this doesn't happen in real life, but I would not bet my life on it.
Anyway, sorry your friend is a fool but not sure what can be done.