I know some people keep asking for any verse in the bible that may support a religious exemption. Well this popped up on my app this morning and for some of you it may fit the bill. It's not about a vaccine, but it is about your freedom of will.
"Each of you should give what you have decided in your heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver." 2 Cor 9:7
Society is telling us that we should give our bodies to this massive science experiment for the "greater good" and is using various forms of force or pressure in the form of some kind of punishment to encourage compliance from those who are reluctant to give their bodies to science. However, God wants us only to give from our hearts, and we are instructed never to give under compulsion, this is a warning sign. If you are reluctant in any way, God says not to give. Remember, God gave us free will, God gave us our freedom to choose. To be pressured by any entity to do something against your will under the threat of punishment is a violation of your religious freedom and can and should be viewed as religious discrimination.
I just say I believe it's the mark of the beast
I believe so as well. I believe the global passport system is the mark, and in order for it to exist, the people have to cooperate right now at it's beginning stages, and to cooperate right now, with the vaccine mandate, is to be complicit in the rolling out of the beast system, the mark that is to come.
This is not the mark of the beast, which requires that you choose evil. It manifests itself in your forehead and right hand, which signifies your thoughts and actions.
Revelation 13 KJV 15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed. 16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
To fulfill this scripture they would have to kill all who do not worship the image. Considering that, when they begin this task, they will have given us a good reason to kill all of them instead, this is either in the future or has already passed. I tend to believe that it has already passed because this, and many, many other scriptures depict the harlot roman catholic church and it's godless papacy to a tee. These deviants from God most certainly did kill those who didn't worship the beast, where ever they could find them. Read about the Dark Ages for details. The official title of this pope abomination, translated in roman numerals, equals 666.
This vaccine is nothing more than the Mark of the Deluded.
It is the system that begins the path to the mark of the beast. Thinking otherwise is foolish. To think that this won't lead to the mark of the beast is insane. Sure, other events have to happen first but where does it say in the Bible that the system doesn't start at this point?
Why are you spouting off eschatology that the Godless roman catholics have contrived? I suppose you think Christ rose from the dead on Sunday too, don't you? They are full of lies, like their father, and you are passing them off as the truth.
Seek His infinite wisdom and learn.
where do i go to seek this? meditation?
Such charity for your fellow brothers and sisters in Christ.
Tell me - have you ever spoken with an actual catholic?
Tell me - have you ever spoken with an actual catholic?
Other than my son in law and a couple hundred others, no.
Your own daughter married a catholic . Sorry, Andy.
That explains why you come across often as angry, bitter & sorta pissed off.
so is daughter going to Confessions, too? - I can't even imagine.
That's a lot of assumptions. Go ahead and teach me, wise one.
Matthew 24 KJV 34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
Luke 21 KJV 24 “And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.”
Don't look now but the Hebrews are back in ole JS.
If you think the people in Israel right now are the real Hebrews, you're not paying attention.
That was written before revelation
So, there are a few arguments I feel.
Starting with yours; that this is not the mark of the beast.
Another argument that holds water is that you can reason that the people who are advocating for the evil (in this case, the vaccine) especially those that have seen the evil itself (damaging children, including their family) are the ones receiving it, and you choose to side with evil if you see these things and still advocate for the compulsion to get it.
The argument I would be choosing if I were a more religious person is that this is not the mark of the beast, but rather a trial run to test the population's progress towards it or the implementation of the infrastructure so that when it comes, people will more readily accept it.
I agree. Scriptural illiteracy is rampant I'm afraid. There will be "types" of things before the real ones appear.
Passport will be the mark of the beast injected, electronic in your right hand. Period.
THIS 👆
Bill Gates has already planned to chip us. We won't let him. God wins. 🙏
False
The roman catholic church never required a mark that you must get to buy or sell
We should compile all of these religious arguments into one big super-argument.
Or why not just say “its against my religion, and you aren’t qualified to question my religion or my sincerity, you godless heathen”
Seriously, who is qualified to question your faith?
Anyone who claims they are qualified to question my faith... suddenly i feel qualified to question their faith.
Why are we legitimizing their narrative that they are in any position to question us, by going along with it?
"Who is qualified"?
Well, at this point we are the peasantry who can't and won't stand up with force, so those who lord over us have taken it upon themselves to assert themselves as the only authority who is uniquely qualified to question your beliefs.
I'm with you. I am in the process of being hired full time by a place for which I've worked as a contractor for the past 20 years. They require the vaccine and I've already stated that I won't get it, period. If they insist, I can either continue working as a contractor (offsite, and the FT position will also be offsite) or I will find employment elsewhere.
They have requested a letter from my "religious leader." Since all of the churches seem to be paid off by the evil NWO overlords to support the death jab, that is nearly impossible to get (and I don't do organized religion, anyway). My mother suggested, over the weekend, that I tell them I believe it's the mark of the beast. I told her that's exactly what I believe and it spawned a conversation between me, her, and my husband about it. We all believe it's the mark of the beast. My brother is starting to believe it as well, and wishes he hadn't gotten it.
Well either way you can argue as much as you want whether its the mark of the beast, but it is not generally recommended that your exemption request depicts your employer as being in coordination with the forces of ultimate evil. No employer actually wants people thinking like that working for them, so that perspective will work against those who use it.
Then what's the mark of God that is talked about throughout the Bible???
What?
Claiming an exemption is implicitly agreeing that govt has the RIGHT to require an exemption in the first place, or else you have to do whatever they say.
Govt never had any right to pay for a vaccine to be created for an illness with a 99+% recovery rate and two cheap, widely available, highly effective CURES. Hundreds of M.D.s call them CURES. They hold medical authority. So, HCQ and IVM are CURES.
As such, govt never had any right to create any "mandate" for their phony "vaccine". I need no waiver or exemption from that which is illicit on its face from the moment of its creation.
If 100% of the populace held this view, govt would have 0% success in oppressing society with this fake covid bullshit.
I agree that the government has no right to require an exemption or to demand you have to take the death jab.
However, businesses can pretty much demand whatever they want, provided they don't discriminate against people That's why they can make you take a drug test before hiring you, why certain businesses have dress codes, and crap like that.
To circumvent their idiocy requires exemptions--I remember a few years back a Muslim woman complaining about The Gap or whatever the store was, because they had a rule where employees had to wear their clothes (advertise the merchandise, obviously), but she sued because she wanted to wear her head to toe bubble covering. She won, I believe, because they discriminated against her religious beliefs.
That's all the religious exemption is to me--something to keep me from having to get the mark of the beast to get or keep a job. If it works, fine. If it doesn't, I'll figure something out. I'm not selling my damned soul for a job.
How is this not discrimination?
It is, but most people don't see it as such.
I mean, if you want to get technical about it, hiring quotas are also discrimination. As the guy up above said, drug testing is discrimination. Hiring H1B workers over Americans is discrimination (when our unemployment rate is this high, there's no excuse for hiring foreigners over Americans, but that's what they do).
The problem is that the government supports this crap and won't put a stop to it because you have businesses lining politicians' pockets. Until the government starts doing what it's there to do--and NOTHING else--this stuff will continue and we just have to find ways to work around it.
That said, I've always been one who supported the idea that, as long as businesses follow the law (like not hiring illegal aliens), then let them do as they please. If they don't want drug users, fine. If they insist on having drug users, fine. Let people choose whether to support them or not. A truly free market would end up guiding business practices. Unfortunately, we've never had a truly free market.
IMHO this is only because it's never been fought in in the right court before the right judge, by a sufficiently canny lawyer.
Drug testing is outright invasion of privacy on the face of it, by definition. It also is highly unreliable, with a legendary percentage of false positives.
Agree with all that. I wonder why no one has ever tried suing over it.
That said, I am in a right-to-work state, so I'm used to employers demanding all kinds of bullshit to hire anyone.
I don’t need to ask for permission / beg to not be injected.
Don't you know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you and whom you have received from God? You are not your own owners; they were bought for a price. Therefore honor God with your body. 1 Corinthians 6: 19-20
Oooo that's a great one!
Here's my initial draft answer along your same lines,but I emphasize more about the warnings of acting against conscience:
Exemption Form Q: Please briefly explain how your sincerely held religious belief, practice, or observance conflicts with employer's COVID-19 vaccination requirement.
Answer:
The bible passages quoted above establish my obligations to tend my own self, as my soul and as well as my body being a divine vessel and respected as such. I am obligated to care for my body freely and thoughtfully in accordance with my own conscience and in accordance with the moral obligations of my belief system. I cannot in good conscience and in consistency with my sincerely held beliefs participate in a policy that bypasses Informed Consent with regards to medical treatment to my body with the specific Covid-19 vaccines. This is especially the case while there are various paths and measures available to contribute to and achieve public health.
Exemption Form Q: Please provide any additional information that you think may be helpful in processing your religious accommodation request
Answer: The following link is to a statement by an ordained pastor and spiritual teaching authority in the denomination of which I am a member, wherein he explains how a Christian member acting against one’s own conscience in cases of morally questionable actions, is equivalent to showing contempt for the moral commandments of God.
https://www.ligonier.org/learn/devotionals/faith-and-acting-against-conscience/
Excellent verse and explanation. I’ve always loved this verse to guide me on my “financial” giving as to what feels right, but have never thought of the spiritual and physical ways of giving as well. Thanks!!
God gave me a very strong immune system, who am I to presume to "improve" His handiwork???
https://biblehub.com/genesis/1-27.htm
I didn't use a verse in my exemption request. I said we are created in the image of God and in eyes I am perfect the way I am, if I take a "vaccine" I am saying God made a mistake when he created me and that's offensive to me.
great and to the point!
That is about TITHING not compulsory vacvination.
Don't take it out of context.
Not taking it out of context, this is a lesson to be learned in a broader way as well. That's why I provided an example, the giving of yourself to science for the "greater good".
In other words: "Fuck off. I'm not taking that shit. And Jesus approves my decision."
Galatians 5:20 - the word for witchcraft has the same root as the word for pharmacy.
true, but be prepared to discuss why Ivermectin or HCQ is not also witchcraft if you should have need to take it.
Totally valid- I would say (not that I’m right, just spitballing) that there is a guiding principal in the gifts of the Holy Spirit that allow us to discern the line we draw. The list includes drunkenness, disobeying parents, etc. there are grey areas and nuance for all of them, but we learn to learn discern those areas through spiritual discipline based on Christ’s example and teachings, and Gods wisdom granted to us by the Holy Spirit. So it is my faith in the Holy Spirit, through an understanding of God’s word, that I follow the example of Christ. Therefore, my reading of the scripture, after prayer and fellowship with fellow believers, requires that I have nothing to do with something that I believe violates God’s command to keep my body as the holy spirits temple clean. I won’t put anything named after Lucifer in me. I won’t put anything in me that hurts or compromises the beautiful healing system God designed. I will not use a product that was made with any kind of human sacrifice. I will not use anything that was produced by way of harming innocent children. Just thinking out loud.
"Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves." - Matthew 7:15
Excellent thank you
The mark of the beast prevents one from buying or selling unless they have the mark.
That is exactly the vaccine. Do you need me to explain how?
If you think you know when the tribulation is you have some more reading to do. You can start with Matthew 24:36.
Literally the only thing you've said about scriptures is forcing a preconception.
When you accept the mark of the beast you are required to renounce Christ and follow a new one world religion and people will worship the man of lawlessness. To this point no one has been forced to renounce Christ when taking the jab. This IS NOT the mark of the beast. Enough with this bullshit.
Hold one moment.
I am not the one who downvoted you so don't bite my head off for asking you to see my point.
They are actively murdering and persecuting Christians in various places of the world.
They are treating Christians as mean bible thumpers that won't let them have their Constitutional freedoms.
They are vilifying Christians to make it unpopular to be a Christian.
Where has that led? Atheism. Where has atheism led? A blind trust in "The Science".
"The Science" which is an undisputed fact of our universe, discovered -- and invented -- by humans, who are susceptible to evil. Those humans provide their discoveries or inventions, and other humans -- who are susceptible to the same -- review and choose to state that it is real or it is flawed or fake.
We trust the scientific method, but when that scientific method is fudged or obfuscated -- or withheld entirely -- then we end up with something entirely different.
Without rambling more on that point, these have led us to a medical tyranny backed by figures in trusted positions that has become global.
Atheism -- or "The Science" -- could absolutely be a mischievously crafted one world religion.
When I think about religion, I think about holy books -- think Bible, Koran, etc., a la science and medical journals -- and I think about priests -- Fauci and other positions in charge of spreading the gospel -- I think of missionaries spreading and informing of the religion -- the propaganda in the media -- and I think of large swaths of people accepting it as the only way.
All of that is present for atheism / "The Science"
I am not a very religious person but when you are dealing with a smart and ancient evil, and you are in the religion that believes in that evil's existence, it would be naive to think that said evil wouldn't find a way to trick people into believing in something that turns out to be him.
I think science has been repulsively perverted and we have seen an increase in the rate of that perversion in a time that lines up with a lot of other prophetic stuff.
I suppose we’re not actually told to physically renounce Christ. However if you decide to take this vaccine even though evidence shows that the virus is 99.9 survivable, aren’t you in essence not trusting the immune system God gave you and picking something man made up in two months? Would that be considered renouncing Christ?
It doesn't make chronological sense either. The antichrist introduces the mark halfway through a 7-year reign. If the antichrist takes power tomorrow, we're still 3.5 years off.
This is the setting up of the beast system. To recognize this now is to see it early, before it becomes obvious. The order of events could look something like this:
1 Vaccine Mandates pushed on entire population of earth
2 "Vaccine Passports" are created to enforce mandates on population
3 Full systematic infrastructure is then created for the Vaccine Passports as a more effective means of control.
4 Vaccine Passports are the path to a more wide reaching social credit system like China has.
5 No longer just Vaccine Passport, now a full Social Credit system that judges you based on your social media accounts, purchases, everything about you. Full thought police structure in place to control the populace. Punishment can include loss of job, kicked out of school, bank blocking your account cutting you off from getting resources.
6 Once it's gotten this far, you can bet most of the population have complied and those who haven't are likely having to live 100% self sufficient and possibly in hiding, because they can no longer buy sell or trade without being part of the system. Now that the beast system is set up, they know who the Christians are, they know who didn't get their vaccines, and they know who spoke out against the government at any time past or present. Let the Christian persecution and the tribulation begin.
7 Antichist can now emerge, announces himself as God, all who don't have the mark (which was the system rolled out in the previous steps) are to have their heads cut off. Whether they give us a physical mark to replace the digital one is up for question, but the symbolic meaning of the forehead and right hand are already fulfilled at this point anyway. And revelations is full of symbolism.
This is how I see it. A man isn't going to rise up one day and start cattle-branding people overnight. It's a process that will take place over time. People need to be deceived, this takes time. I believe the beast system that is responsible for the "mark" begins with the vaccine passport. And I believe to comply with this, is to comply with the beast. Once you are in the system, you can not leave. Therefore once it becomes obvious that you entered the system with this vaccine at step one, you will now be trapped in this system by the time it gets to step 7 and finally becomes obvious. Plus there is the question of what this vaccine is doing to you and why it is the catalyst for the beast system. How is the vaccine supporting the antichrist's plans? Besides laying the foundation for the mark, it is modifying your body, it's playing God with your genes. Did you also know that they were working on a vaccine to make people non-religious? A vaccine that rips away your desire to have a spiritual life? It may as well kill your soul if that's the case. How do we know that's not in this vaccine too? It's not like they tell us what's in it. They are modifying God's creation and by the time people realize this was all part of the "mark of the beast" it will already be too late, they were already deceived into taking it.
This vaccine is an abomination. It gives permission for the antichrist to implement his his beast system that marks everyone on earth to be controlled.
This is a sound plausibility structure, and overall in my opinion the most believable(there are elements I don't agree with). The one issue I have is that the antichrist will be worshipped, and Satan is a master deceiver. The Bible also says God will send a strong delusion on the world, causing everyone to believe the lie.
Another issue is that even nonbelievers can see through the deception now. Perhaps God's strong delusion causes everyone to fall the seduction, but it's almost like it's too late for people to fall for the cabal's tricks now. Plus, the world will be unified under the beast system, where here it seems the world's population is split in two.
Antichrist doesn't mean against Christ, it means in place of Christ. Another idea I've started entertaining is perhaps the truth comes out, the world's populations shed their corrupt governments, and suddenly the world is united without a leader. They're all still unbelievers mind you, and the antichrist can slide right in as the man with all the answers. From a religious standpoint, the mark would be a pledge to the divinity humanity of sorts, basically a repeat of the lie in the garden of Eden, and we'd have a Christ substitute leading a false global peace. When the judgments in Revelation come, it'd make sense that the world would hate God for it too.
I think this is beginning too. Look at how upside down the world it right now. It's widespread madness out there. Give it more time and maybe it could get that far. Covid itself is a strong delusion. Even though it has a more than 99% survival rate, people are acting like it's the black plague. And Christianity is in the process of turning upside down too. We have this progressive Christian movement that distorts the teachings of Christ. Churches and religious leaders are giving into the madness of covid and government overreach. Things are in the process of crumbling, clown world is in full effect now. Either we somehow put an end to it before it's too late, or we are in fact in the end days and more and more people will become deceived. Who knows how bad things may get between sickness (everyone dropping dead from the vax but thinking it's the virus), natural disasters, civil unrest, it could become hell on earth just before the antichrist rises up and "unites the planet". The desperate and deceived people of earth who have been suffering from mass phycosis for years at this point, will celebrate him as a hero for ending their suffering and will worship him as God because they'll feel abandoned anyway. Yes, I can definitely see this happening and I can see us already on our way to this outcome.
Does the bible state that it has to happen in precise chronological order in order to be biblically valid?
Reminds me of the movie Noah where Noah was actually set in the future after the fall of industrialization and machines.
I do find the concept of time being circular fascinating.
The Bible doesn't really spend time explaining or defending itself. God simply speaks and the hearts of the hearers dictate the interpretation.
It's a dangerous book in that regard. It's written in such a way so that a soft heart will become softer and receive the gospel, yet a proud heart will find criticism and grow harder.
We like to think our intellect dictates our thoughts and opinions, but really our brains simply justify our hearts. Kind of explains how a math genius can be a baby-murdering Moloch-worshipping Biden voter. They're wrong, but not because they're stupid.
Have you read all of the scriptures yourself? Because are reciting the interpretations of the beast, which are incorrect.
Every scripture, many times, yes. I disagree with you.
Based on the scriptures, which day of the week did Christ rise from the dead?
By that thinking, any medical intervention we receive would violate our relationship with Christ, would it not? Look, I'm not saying the vax is good, quite the opposite. But when the mark of the beast is pushed upon us, we'll know for sure. There won't be any question. Those who won't know are those that never truly knew Christ. And what about our immune system? There are plenty of people in this world with compromised immune systems. We're born into a broken, sinful, evil world and sickness is just one result of that. You can't expect a 90 year old person to have the same immune system as a healthy 20 year old. 3 1/2 years into the tribulation when the man of lawlessness (anti-christ) becomes known, then whoever is left will have to make a decision...take the mark or not. That will be the last chance for those who are left to make themselves right with God. We're not there yet. That's my argument against the vax being the mark. This vax bullshit is just that, vile, oppressive bullshit, but it's not the mark of the beast. Blessings fren.
You aren't seeing the full picture.
You don't see how vaxx passports & such qualify as this?
These are the days leading up to tribulation, the vax passport its the beta test for the mark of the beast, which imo makes it the same thing. Give it just a little more time and I bet it will start to resemble your vision of events more and more.
It doesnt say it need be religious when satanic is w o religion. It's the chip they want to implant. So you can go to the store get food shop anywhere..it I'd's you. you're affiliation....virus is just an excuse to jab you w the mark of the beast passport chip...this is it deal with it. Never ever has it been foretold to be religious in nature...its always about IDENTIFYING YOU AND IF YOUVE BEEN ASSIMILATED YET OR NOT
Secular humanism is a form of religion, and what is taking place in our society IS a form of religious worship. That said, I don't believe that chips or implants are the Mark of the Beast. I'm post-mil, so my view of the "end of the world" is quite different than mainstream Christianity.
Thank you for this. This sums up exactly what we’re feeling, and will be very helpful.
Verses like this are great. Does anyone have an collection of bible verses supporting not getting vexed? I need to write a letter to my employer citing religious exemption.
Can't I just say I'm part of the Universal Life Church (anyone can sign up to be a reverend there) and say anything I want?
They say you only need to do what you believe to be right, by your own definition.
So, since I believe that these vaccines are bad, I cannot participate according to my religion.
I mean if you can show bible verses that's fine, but my point is why do we need to prove our beliefs according to existing scripture?
I think there are better ways to defend a biblical objection as the basis of religious exemption from any vaccine.
1 Corinthians 6:19 Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; 20 you were bought at a price. Therefore glorify God with your body.
The presence of the genetic modifier mRNA, spike proteins, aborted fetal tissue, and heavy metals (aluminum adjutant & mercury preservative), in this and other vaccines is reason enough to claim that vaccines defile the temple for which God bought me, body and soul, at the price of the blood of His own Son Jesus Christ. This one could differentiate from Quinine or HCQ originally derived from plants or Ivermectin originally derived from soil as not being defiling agents.
We as Christians do not need to hold 'membership' in any local congregation to be Christ followers. However, I would think this would be a very good time to know what the Bible really says about your life. The original context of the above verse is sexual immorality. If one would use this as a legal argument for religious exemption, would they not also need to be prepared to defend any other lifestyle choices as wholly consistent with New Testament biblical standards?
I have not yet been challenged by my employer to get the vaxx, but these are some thoughts I have on these questions. I am inclined to pursue a medical exemption as I believe that several providers whom I have seen as a patient might offer me the option as they have NOT recommended flu shots for many years. A consistent track record is helpful if an exemption- religious or medical- is to hold up to challenges.
Lord - reveal my compulsions at all times so that I may acknowledge them instead of hiding from them. Father I ask that you cast me with providence and your strength so that I may face my compulsions and overcome them in Jesus' Name!!!!!
I respect what you're doing OP but I wouldn't even dignify them with a response of why .... I did a very lengthy post on this when the COVID hysteria was just setting in and I feel this is an area where you don't have to explain why.
When I did the research on it, come to find out, there is no burden of proof for religious exemptions. You don't have to explain anything.
That's a ruling made by the United Nations and upheld in every country that is a member.
Say nothing of why and they have no rebuttal ....
Oh I completely agree, but I've noticed the people who have been asking for something like this, so when it popped up this morning on my notifications, I thought I'd share in case it may help someone. While I share your belief on this matter, there are still people out there who are being put on the spot and about to lose it all, and this is just their last resort. In the end, if this continues, we will all have to take a stand and risk it all anyway.
That’s talking about giving to the church. Don’t misuse the bible. Plenty of legit reasons without obvious misinterpretation.
So you think the advise isn't universal? You think the context of this message can't be applied to all aspects of life? There is an open context to learn and a deeper meaning to gain wisdom, that is the beauty of scripture.
The apostle Paul was teaching on a specific topic. Taking scripture out of context to make it mean whatever you would like it to mean is stupid.It’s not as if it was a parable.
You don't know the concept of the old saying "the moral of the story" do you?
Yes. The moral of the story has nothing to do with taking one sentence from the story out of context to mean something completely unrelated.
Paul’s statement was a specific teaching on a specific topic in plain language. It has absolutely nothing to do with anything else and does not hold up as a solid argument when attempting a religious exemption.
I think that just depends on a person's perspective. I don't believe God wants you to be pressured to doing anything that is not in your heart. He gave us free will after-all. This passage is just one example of that philosophy which can be applied in all areas. People like you make Christianity look so distasteful with your rigid judgmental attitude, constantly insisting you're right and everyone else is wrong. This is exactly what drives people away from it.
And you, judging me as the reason people turn from Christ, what do you call that?
Using the bible as a magic book where you can use the words however you want to interpret them even though it is obviously not the topic bring discussed is your prerogative, but it is dangerous for you, because it is false and falsehood is dangerous.