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Are They Using Different Vaccine Batches For Different Groups? (seemorerocks.is)
posted 4 years ago by Reassess_Reevaluate 4 years ago by Reassess_Reevaluate +338 / -0
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– Reassess_Reevaluate [S] 63 points 4 years ago +63 / -0

I know this isn't really an article, it's just a stub of an article reporting on something that someone said on some random forums.

However, I work at the Defense Intelligence Agency. At a bare minimum, 90% of the people that I work with have all been vaccinated. None, and I mean none, of the people that I know at these agencies have had any adverse reactions to these shots. Not only that, but I know lots of people from my former places of employment with other intelligence agencies and they are also reporting the same thing.

No one at the NSA is getting sick from the shot, No one at the FBI is getting sick from the shot, No one that anyone knows in the intelligence community is getting sick from this thing.

Meanwhile, I know dozens of people with no relation to the IC which are all having adverse reactions to the shot. Dozens of high school friends, of people that I game with in various online video games, of people I interact with in my hobby group... are having, or know people who are having, adverse reactions.

I'm almost entirely sure that no one I work with was given the actual vaccine. I think they are protecting certain groups and classes of people from this thing.

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– retardmonkey 23 points 4 years ago +23 / -0

This is the biggest thing for me. It's too easy for politicians and journalists to say, "hey look, i'm getting my shot". But there's no guarantee that what you're getting is what they're getting.

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– Reassess_Reevaluate [S] 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Yes, I agree. I think everyone in my office got saline.

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– Kamalas_a_Bitch 19 points 4 years ago +19 / -0

This article proves there is a saline only version, so then the question is why. You have some good answers to that question.

https://www.wtoc.com/2021/06/28/very-limited-number-saline-only-covid-vaccines-accidentally-given-sc-health-dept-says/

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– scoripowarrior 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

They need a "control" group to compare.

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– RedditAsylumSeeker 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Phase 3 study comes to a close in a couple years or whenever and the data is just in the billions in control and test groups...

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– getkek 16 points 4 years ago +16 / -0

I have long since suspected trial groups were created and not administered randomly.

Taking what you say at face value, I am not surprised at all.

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– Humbled1 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

My state just changed MJ laws, and as such the company I work for has stopped their random tests. Now they will only test you if they have good reason, and MJ positive is not grounds for firing.

I hope the same comes to your state!

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– SneakyWino 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Fuck you. Idiot.

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– Kamalas-Snatch 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Or just grow it yourself...

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– SneakyWino 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Go pop a pill from big pharma. You're actually against a fucking plant? Idiot.

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– FreeMainiac 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Shit, every time I fly I get randomly selected to get the sensual search. And it's never that random sneaky hot chick agent doing it either. It's invariably John Candy from National Lampoons Vacation, but sweatier and with a Farva mustache

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– Takebackourplanet 13 points 4 years ago +13 / -0

Are all those guys getting the jab at work?

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– blacksmith21 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

How would that work? Civilian GS employees would just go get vaxxed at whatever randomized location near their home? Same for contractors.

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– Buildtheadytum 21 points 4 years ago +21 / -0

Makes me recall the recent truck accident where a vaccine delivery was on board and the DOD and HAZMAT teams were brought in, reportedly. Kinda makes you wonder if the reaction was due to being a delivery of a particular batch.

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– Whirlybot 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0

How is this info not leaking out from the people giving the shots? Surely, someone that has to look up and identify batch numbers, etc., would have put 2 and 2 together and told their family, friends.

On another note, friend of mine got the jab as soon as it came to our area (May, I believe) and had immediate blood pressure issues (had to adjust BP meds for the next 4 months to compensate) and also recurring styes, continuing thru today. She's never had a stye before getting the jabs.

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– sidhe007 15 points 4 years ago +15 / -0

People giving the shots would not know. Vaccine lot numbers mean nothing to them. The knowledge of what is in each lot would be at the top...not the nurses & pharmacy techs etc.

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– WildWestWarrior 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

Blood pressure issues, you say? My brother had some of that recently and he’s had the two Moderna shots, first from April and the second one in May. Doctors told him it was from taking Zyrtec-D and he has had blood pressure trouble before but not in a very long time, way before this Covid nonsense started. I thought it was from the vaccines but I can’t tell him that cause he doesn’t believe they’re harmful and that the government would lie to us 🙄. If you have a friend that’s had BP issues then there’s a chance his is vaccine related too..

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– swimkin 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

A neighbor of mine just took his shot about 3 weeks ago. His doctor talked him into it. Tomorrow is his birthday. He will be 78. It could just be a coincidence but he is going in tomorrow to have a cardiac catherization to see why he is having angina.

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– SOTUisFUBAR 14 points 4 years ago +14 / -0

I believe this to be true, or something similar. My thinking is anyone not having side effects as of yet, especially those months after the jab, have gotten the placebo.

Which may even tie in with Trumps OWS and replacing dangerous vaccines with "placebos" but running out. I saw this somewhere here, but my theory in line 1 has stood since seeing adverse reactions but not knowing anyone myself having them. Everyone I know that's gotten it, got it early on.

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– PaNix 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

The real questions are who what where when and why. This is why you can't give a corrupt company like Pfizer 0 fucking liability. They will balk at QC

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– PaNix 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

you got me there :p

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– WildWestWarrior 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

I know of several people who got J&J and felt perfectly fine. But a Trump-supporting family member working in the big hospital in my area said J&J vaccine is very dangerous from things she’s seen, and she recommends Pfizer. But I don’t trust Pfizer cause that’s the one Dr Fauci is associated with I believe. And Moderna is Bill Gates, another elitist maniac.

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– shoafville819 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Neighbor got J & J and has neuropathy

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– WildWestWarrior 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Dang. Did it happen over time or was it shortly after receiving the shot?

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– Mrs.Frostbite 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

My fil also got the jandj and 24 hrs later had a heart attack. My mil seems fine so far.

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– BatteryBaron 14 points 4 years ago +14 / -0

Its a fucking clinical trial so of course they are doing all kinds of loony shit.

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– AlecLeamas 13 points 4 years ago +13 / -0

Big Pharma has a chance to do Mengele-type human experimentation on millions of people without their knowledge or consent, and has been granted total immunity for any adverse effects to these people. You think they're not exploiting this opportunity by trying all sorts of different ingredients in different amounts and combinations to see who dies and who doesn't and how fast? As far as they're concerned, the people getting jabs are free lab rats.

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– Murphy71 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

It is also a placebo-controlled trial.

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– Loquitur_Veritatem 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Yep, this recipe in that part of the country, that recipe in the other part ... see which recipe is the most deadly and against what group of people.

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– Choctaw 11 points 4 years ago +11 / -0

Based on what is happening I would agree that there is a percentage of people not getting the real payload. There are a number of reasons why they wouldn't try to dose everyone at once. I've put together a few possibilities.

A.) From people I know, churning out the amount of "vaccine" required at this scale in this time table is impossible. Unless they had it already fabricated there simply isn't a way to have the number they are pushing or claimed to have injected.

B.) It doesn't make tactical sense to kill off the targeted 50% right from the start for obvious reasons, if you say have 20% of your targeted group get the real payload, and take that same 20% and spread out globally, then the kill/maim rate would be so spread out as to not to be noticeable to the general public in that area. Adverse reactions and death could be excused as anomalies. And the long term effects will probably never be blamed on the vaxx.

C.) Coupling in with B. Considering what the Japanese have found with differences in 3 different Moderna lots. It would be assumable that the payloads cause specific different reactions. Again, by having different payloads, they can distribute those over a wider area as well. And again assuming a 20% number, they can hide those 3 different versions worldwide and expect the effects to have little public visibility, and Covid can always be blamed instead of the vaccine. If the plan to eliminate half the population is done in stages, with the distractions that are going on in this world, massive amounts of people could be slated for death via vaxx under the radar.

D.) Having the other 80% of injectees given saline works well for the cabal. They now have many many people that can attest to being vaccinated with no ill effects, who will now gladly get re-vaxxed, boostered, whatever without question and who will eventually wind up getting the real payload. Free PR that does nothing but say good things, and get others to lower their guard and get vaxxed or get a booster if they were worried.

Given that no one aside from the cabal knows that the long term effects will be on those who are fully dosed. This entire event serves to pick half the population off one by one via "vaccine" attrition using the media and the saline vaxxed public to help.

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– PaNix 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

These is a theory that has been trying really hard lately to pop its head out. I would love to see the information thats been compiled because honestly it makes a lot of sense if true.

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– Gato925 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

Still ain't worth risking my life for. If they're waiting for me to line up, it's a waste of time and money. I have better things to do with my time. Like, live!

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– Kavvfefe 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

Sounds like working w/ govt is like working for the ccp in that the ccp member employees get good perks, benefits, etc., whilst the peons get the dregs...eg classed society is unavoidable even in commie utopia...

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– ThankGod 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

possible different batches for different countries

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– Kavvfefe 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

And different ingrediants in each batch...

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– TheRoyalRob 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

I was wondering if they are going to give saline to the military, if the "vaccine" is killing people like we all think it is, would be very hard for them to hide that in the military.

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– fastwalker 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

Military family member held out till last week. Jabbed him with MODERNA, not fda approved Comirnaty. Luckily 0 effects. Praying he got saline.

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– Whirlybot 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

They might still have given him saline with GO in it, for possible future 5G testing.

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– fastwalker 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

For sure it's unsure what his dose got. I've offered him NAC and help detoxing.

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– INK10 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

Unless they are really trying hard to weaken our military. Wouldn't put it past them.

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– MisprisionIsEvil 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

I'm going to say yes, they are using different batches. It's a massive operation. Pure evil.

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– 17CallingGloria 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

Wouldn’t surprise me in the least. Probably something along the lines of anyone under 40 is getting a batch that has a high probability to sterilize, anyone over 65 is getting a batch that causes mortality when coupled with certain comorbidities, and the rest are getting a spin the wheel of other random things Big Pharma is wanting to test. Throw in some saline batches for elites, random control groups, and also to make it so as not to arouse suspicion right away.

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– Whirlybot 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

My friend went to the local health department as soon as the shots came to our area. I asked her if they just lined people up assembly-line style, and she said they were all seated in chairs about 6 feet apart and a clerk went thru first and did the paperwork, then a nurse came through and administered the shot, with each fresh syringe pulling the 'jab serum' from the same bottle until they ran out, then went and got a new bottle from the refrigeration. Afterwards, a third person was responsible for timing the wait period of 15 minutes before each 'recipient' could leave, and after the 15 minutes, that 3rd person handed out the jab card with the manufacturer and lot number written on the card.

Another person in my (really small) town, a very slim middle aged person, only made it about 7 minutes after the shot before he passed out and actually hit the floor - was then transported by ambulance to the local hospital and was in a coma for 2 weeks, and then awoke. Was able to be discharged a couple days later. That was his first (and only) dose of the jab (Moderna was all that was available to the area at the time). Their story to him was that he 'must have been allergic to something in the delivery (carrier) substances in the vaccine, not the vaccine itself.' This guy was known to formerly be a pretty heavy-duty illegal drug user, so his body had already seen some stuff, and 'needle-fright' was definitely not an issue with him. Unbelievable.

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– 17CallingGloria 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

That’s interesting that they all definitely got administered from the same bottle, and now supposedly something has changed and they are selecting batches (if the latter is even true). I do remember at the beginning of this all, they were all really paranoid about the vaccines being kept at very cold temperatures, the kind of temperatures that would require specialized industrial freezers. Yet now somehow it is ok for people to drive around with them in their car and go door to door.

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– Whirlybot 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Remember when the vaccines first rolled out in early 21? There was a lot of extra activity showing up on military flight radar during that time and the speculation was that it was military helping with the distribution of the vaccines in an orderly fashion around the country. Back then it was thought that it was the best way to distribute the vaccine because of the special refrigeration needs of the stuff. Wonder if the batches were assigned at that point. The general 'active ingredient' stuff sent to the general public facilities (health departments, hospitals/clinics, pharmacies, etc.) and control group batches with the saline only directed to military, elected federal offices, etc.

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– numina18 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

I think so. After all, there are elites and there are sheep. Why waste money on the sheep when you want them dead?? Give 'em the kill shot A friend of mine is a high up military man, very high up, and he is also an elite, according to his lineage. He said he was in the trials for the vax. He is still fine, as far as i know. He's not having clotting problems or a heart atttack or anything. So, yeah, I think there were different strokes for different folks.

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– Deplorable69 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Maybe, based on your occupation, your social media score, your finances, your age.

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– WomanInTheRedDress 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

These people are sick.

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– Jokeruh1n 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Why else to have they come up with a test rapid test for antibodies?

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– Merkava_4 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Are all Home Depot employees on the list for the saline batch?

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– A_Lost_Fact 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Yes, of course. This is a yuge vaccine trial.

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– MudDog 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

yes

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– montanapede 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

How do they even manufacture one dose let along hundreds of millions?

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– BatteryBaron 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

TRUMP

Edit: POTUS paid for (up front) enough doses so that every American who wanted a shot could get one. Thats it. And look what these crazy fucks are doing w it.

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– Joshheretohelp 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

you know...they could be just swapping out the ones Trump gave...idk

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– swimkin 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

So it is a lot like Russian Roulette? NO thanks. I am just fine without the shot.

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– LetsGoFishing 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Yes, the vax takers are the human trial subjects so some were getting saline ( the parasite class still are). However, they decided it was too important that any person get exposed to a pathogen with a 99.98 recovery rate overall and gave their control (saline/placebo) group the shot, destroying their trial (intentionally, no doubt).

There was a scientist on twitter who explained in a short message how they sabotaged this to prevent any real data. Post if I can find.

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– TitoshandmadePatriot 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Japan has reported they've found 3 different types of contamination in the vaccines

https://archive.is/KvVeo

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/what-we-know-about-japans-contaminated-moderna-covid-19-vaccine-supplies-2021-08-30/

A tiny black substance was found in a Moderna vaccine vial in Gunma, an official from the prefecture said, while in Okinawa, black substances were spotted in syringes and a vial, and pink material was found in a different syringe.

pretty sure there was a yellow substance found as well, was either in another article or this was edited.

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– Moose_Antlers 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Answer:

Probably yes in a sense. The nurse was correct in describing how the blinding process typically works. When you're in a study, as the patient, you don't get to know what's being given. The same is true of the caregivers, like the nurse. A proper study "blinds" the patient and the doctors/caregivers from knowing whether the experimental drug or the placebo is being given to the patient. This is done to remove the possibility that we might change our care if we knew. We avoid biasing the results this way.

In practice, the nurse feeds the patient's name into a computer which manages the blinding process, then she gets a dose of "study drug" (again, she doesn't know whether it's drug or placebo) and gives it. Her impression of that is that the pharmacy is selecting from a batch of placebo or a batch of drug when they give her the drug to administer.

A more important question is whether the same lot number from the manufacturer is being used for all patients at a site. I have read reports of different lots being potentially contaminated or producing different results coming from Pfizer, and of course with J&J, they had a manufacturer in Baltimore (IIRC?) that was shut down for poor manufacturing processes resulting in bad lots that had to be recalled from the market. Ideally, we'd want to have the same lot number for any biologic drug for continuity's sake, but is that actually how it works? Do they have large enough batches and small enough volume to do that? I don't know. I'd assume it was tracked by the study's authors.


Regarding what you're suggesting in your first post about government people getting different drugs than the rest of us. 1) They're almost certainly getting different lots due to the sheer volume of demand, 2) We have an observer bias here. Your friends might tell you about medical conditions, but would some random analyst at the DIA or NSA tell you? We'd need to see actual population-level data. I wouldn't say it's impossible after watching this administration deliberately destroy this country for the past year, but I also have no evidence whatsoever that they would or are doing it. I don't believe they are doing this and I'd want to see convincing evidence to believe such a thing were happening.

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– JackieDaytona74 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

So in my opinion, the BIG question then is:

If this is indeed happening, for the average person off the street going into a clinic to get the jab, what criteria is being used to determine which shot they receive?

Political donations or affiliation? Occupation? Income?

We need to watch this one closely and track the research.

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