My employer has finally said we either get vaxxed by December 8th or be terminated.
I have tried reaching out to Americas Frontline Doctors legal group for help but have not received any replies.
Does anyone here have any suggestions or advice on what I can do? I am thinking of the religious exemption, and I actually do object to the use of human and fetal tissue, but I doubt they will accept that.
The company says this is because we have federal contracts so we have to do it no matter what.
Any ideas guys?
Ask them for a copy of the new OSHA guidelines mandating it. There are none.
They are using the "Federal mandate" as a guideline.
So the OSHA part about 100 e.ployees.or larger does not even come into play.
Apparently there isn’t even an Executive Order issued by FJB to actually enforce the mandate - it’s just press briefings: https://thefederalist.com/2021/10/07/joe-bidens-vaccine-mandate-doesnt-exist-its-just-a-press-release/
Which means, employers can't legally point to the feds as the ones mandating it. THEY ARE. Which means THEY ARE LIABLE for any side effects!
"FBJ".... THAT. IS. AWESOME! He has a new name..... 😂😂😂
The EO is on the books.... EO 14042 and 14043
https://www.federalregister.gov/presidential-documents/executive-orders/joe-biden/2021
14042 is directed at Fed contractors - and directs the Safer Federal Workforce Task Force to establish jab requirements, which they did. Fed contractors have until Dec 8 to be fully vaccinated.
I thought there was for the Mandate for Federal Employees.
Mandate Shmandate, but enough about the Obamas...
Kek! u/#spitcoffee
Same as before, have them cough up the federal mandate that says they have to comply.
Yep.
BINGO!
See Rappoport's excellent article on this.
There is only Biden on tv telling folks it is mandated. No law, no EO, nada. Tell your employer a verbal doesn’t cut it.
Well that gives you 2 months, so at the minimum you can wait it out (and obviously don't comply and don't quit), a LOT can change in 2 months.
Prepare your resume and begin searching for jobs with Patriot employers immediately.
I am not long behind you. My district will likely be mandating the vaccine soon as well. I am fully prepared to walk away. My plan is to freelance. I work in education, and I can very easily set up my own work hours and contract with parents who need teachers for their children.
Look for ways in which you can freelance with your skills as well.
Oh goodness...
Yeah. We may need to create a workshop post for how to write a resume.
That is actually one of my favorite lessons to teach in my Careers class.
Im saying this as a guy who lost his entire career in April 2020, because I refused to wear a subjugation mask in the office.
I now know for certain that my integrity is worth more than their dollars.
You are being given an opportunity to test yourself on the same question, fren. Choose well.
Why were they making you wear a mask in 2000?
fixed, thx
Ahhh ok, that makes way more sense now!
Anyway, once you lose your integrity you can never really get it back, a lost job however is easily replaceable. Good on you.
SARS Cov 1 bruh
The EO is on the books.... EO 14042 and 14043
https://www.federalregister.gov/presidential-documents/executive-orders/joe-biden/2021
14042 is directed at Fed contractors - and directs the Safer Federal Workforce Task Force to establish jab requirements, which they did. Fed contractors have until Dec 8 to be fully vaccinated. Gonna be a bleak Christmas for many of us, me included.
This is designed to expand the vaccination requirements as far and wide as possible. ANY company contracted with the Federal Govt is required to have 100% vaxxed employees according to their rules.
By chance did your employer recently require everyone to provide their vax status or be terminated?
Just wondering as it seems that a LOT of employers are doing this in coordinated fashion Or there are many of us here who work at the same place.
Mine just required that we submit vaccine status. Can they do that? I didn’t and I’m bracing myself for termination.
I am not sure if this differes from state to state and Im no lawyer, but that should be private information that they have no right to.
Infact, they are attempting(most likely) to use that information against you. Which is even more of a reason to not share.
Mine did as well today. But there using a third party service called CareVaildate. We have the choice to either get the vax are take 2 test a week. And if we still are not vaxed by 12/1. We have to pay $50 more a month on our insurance “to offset the medical cost of covid”. All bullshit.
But do they have the right to require that we disclose our personal medical information? What if there is a fake EO issued by the fake president that requires these companies hand over their lists of vaccinated and non vaccinated?
Yes they did. That had a page put up where we have to specify our vax status.
I put "choose not to say"
Yes!
hahajaj, you still havent pinged me
I am still not sure if I have the right person. Hahaha! I will eventually.
Religeous exemption
I'm out at the end of month. I'm praying to God, it's been a tough week.
https://thefederalist.com/2021/10/07/joe-bidens-vaccine-mandate-doesnt-exist-its-just-a-press-release/
Ask them to prove it.
Supposably there is not even a signed EO regarding the mandate.
Hopefully you saved (or will save) money. You got another 6 weeks.
He is not a licensed or insured medical practitioner.
This is also coercion and harassment, which is again unlawful.
This happened to an acquaintance of ours; he was lucky to have a better offer come up before the ultimatum date came up, and let them fire him. I hope this is your situation, because our friend has a future lawsuit in his hip pocket.
Make them fire you, and do not sign anything.
https://greatawakening.win/p/13zg50o0E5/vaccine-information-request-form/c/
I loved this idea of sending a written letter to your employer asking them to put in writing some answers to your questions before you can make an INFORMED decision. I would send it your boss and CC the HR dept. There is a template letter that you can download and just customize it the way you want. Good luck and god bless!
Love the username! Idea is great, as well.
Thank you so much, fren!
Exemption, new job, fake-comply, allow them and then sue their ass if they terminate.....
So many options!
Just don't get the juice, the only non-option!!!
"I don't believe you" is a good one. I use it whenever someone claims to be offended and it really puts people in a spin.
There is no executive order on the books. Your company is choosing to do this when there is literally no enforcement. Make them fire you.
🙏 Pray and stand strong! I keep waiting for the day it all comes to a head and all this nonsense is gone . Perhaps that will be within the next 2 months. My company is heading there soon , I'm sure. They just put out a notice that you have to be Vax to come to the office. Currently we are all still mainly working from home ( except some) since March 2020, They have mentioned that maybe in January we will see about RTO so, so far I have till then ,maybe , if they implement it mandatory to RTO. My husband is freaking out about it, but I take it day by day praying. Keep trying to contact Frontline Doctors and use their documents and read all their info they have on their website. Praying for you!
It's basically this: Keep your job and KILL yourself VS Leave your job and LIVE.
I'm in the same predicament (well, my spouse is). I don't know what to do. We live in Canada and I'm really scared. He has a specialized job and can't just quit and I don't make enough to cover all our bills. His union says no exemptions at all and we both worry that if he makes a scene about it, he will lose any future promotions.
religious exemption and look for another job
Start naming companies. We can boycott as many as possible
I agree, wait it out. More evidence will probably come out. Have faith, it is not over until it's over. God Wins :)
Get a lawyer right now.
Working on that. I have sent to Americas Frontline but no response. I will have to just start calling around I guess.
I submitted the form to them for legal help months ago and never got a response...
IF YOUR BOSS THREATENS YOU WITH FIRING IF NOT VACCINATED DON'T REFUSE:
The secret is NOT to refuse the jab and do not sign anything!
From a lawyer:
If you are being forced to Vax in order to keep your job, here s a great way to handle it. (Conditional acceptance)
The secret is NOT to refuse it.
"I write with regard to the matter of potential covid vaccine and my desire to be fully informed and appraised of ALL facts before going ahead. I d be most grateful if you could please provide the following information, in accordance with statutory legal requirements.":
Can you please advise the approved legal status of any vaccine and if it is experimental?
Can you please provide details and assurances that the vaccine has been fully, independently and rigorously tested against control groups and the subsequent outcomes of those tests?
Can you please advise the entire list of contents of the vaccine I am to receive and if any are toxic to the body?
Can you please fully advise of all the adverse reactions associated with this vaccine since it s introduction?
Can you please confirm that the vaccine you are advocating is NOT experimental mRNA gene altering therapy?
Can you please confirm that I will not be under any duress from yourselves as my employers, in compliance with the Nuremberg Code?
Can you please advise me of the likely risk of fatality, should I be unfortunate to contract Covid 19 and the likelihood of recovery?
Can you please advise me if I were to experience any adverse reactions is the manufacturer of the vaccine liable? If the manufacturer isn t liable will the company I m currently employed with with be responsible & liable as it is their request that I have the vaccine in order to carry on my employment?
Once I have received the above information in full and I am satisfied that there is NO threat to my health, I will be happy to accept your offer to receive the treatment, but with certain conditions - namely that:
You confirm in writing that I will suffer no harm.
Following acceptance of this, the offer must be signed by a fully qualified doctor who will take full legal and financial responsibility for any injuries occurring to myself, and/or from any interactions by authorized personnel regarding these procedures.
In the event that I should have to decline the offer of vaccination, please confirm that it will not compromise my position and that I will not suffer prejudice and discrimination as a result?
I would also advise that my inalienable rights are reserved.
The point is that if they CANNOT provide that information you ve NOT refused.
Best reply I have seen. Thank you brother.
I will try this. I will send to my boss and to the HR department.
Walk into your bosses office and take a piss on his desk.
link arms and stand strong? make them terminate you? get everyone else not wanting the jab to circle wagons and talk about it at work.
Does the first letter of the first name of the CEO at your employer start with "B"?
yes but I take care to keep the name of company out of it.
I listened to that cringy webcast also. In the same boat as you. WWG1WGA
Or, you could just tell these faggots to piss off and take a stand. Where’s your line in the sand? Mine is well before being dragged off to the covid gulags
Absolutely! I would take a stand. But TBH if I got fired I wouldn't starve. Some people might be in pretty dire circumstances if they lose their job. Obviously it is better for all of us if everybody takes a stand, so I definitely encourage making them back down or fire you.
I've seen people discuss whether or not the vaccine is The Mark of the Beast. If it is, then there is no in between or getting close to the enemy.
I agree with that. With Project Veritas verifying that they are actually putting fetal tissue in every shot, that is pretty sick, and probably not put in there for scientific reasons.