My son married a lovely, smart girl who was raised in a liberal midwestern family that by all appearances are typical upper middle class. Father is CEO of a foundation, the mother an RN that works with a local family practice. Wonderful people. Charming, bright, educated, hard working and love the good life. Oh, and are liberals, important point.
The mother is convinced that Covid is truely a deadly disease because she has seen so many people die from it. Her husband, a big strapping guy spent over a month in the hospital from it. So, to her everything in life is Covid. It's the central focus of every discussion. Because she's a nurse, she feels she's the one with the most knowledge about this deadly disease and at liberty to set some standards when it comes to any get togethers.
This weekend my son and wife were planning a birthday party for their only child. The wife miscarried 2 months ago after being fully vaxed. But no problem because her mother said the two aren't related because she's the nurse and knows. My wife and I were planning on attending the party until my son called this morning and said, "Dad, don't shoot the messenger". You can guess what was coming. His mother-in-law was requesting all that attend the party be Covid tested first. I thought for a moment and said that we wouldn't be coming then. He said, but Dad you can get one of those quickie tests at CVS no problem. I said why would I, I'm not sick?
Then I said, listen son. My life doesn't revolve around Covid. I asked, when were you last tested for smallpox? polio? You do realize that people who think everyone needs to test when they are not sick are suffering from a mental illness? The science shows that the people who carry the highest Covid viral load are those fully vaccinated, not those unvaccinated. My wife and I are not vaccinated nor will we be. We will not be pushed into getting a test that isn't accurate when we don't feel sick either. It's a matter of principle. We had no problem being there because we don't care if they're vaccinated or not. It's a personal matter and that's it.
I said we will see our grand daughter some other time when they're not around to get our imaginary cootie bugs. Sorry, but I will not be bullied, pressured or anything else to satisfy someone else's insecurity and need for control. We don't roll like that. We love you, your wife and our grand daughter so we'll see you some other time.
"But Dad, Betty (not her real name) is concerned because she has seen so many friends die." Son, that's because her friends were never given a script for HCQ or Ivermectin early when they first got sick. Their doctors never told them to take Vit D, C, and zinc. Then, when they got to the local hospital they were given Remdesivir like her husband. Probably, one of the worst things they could have been given. It destroys kidneys. Betty thinks she knows what's best but I assure you, she knows nothing of the science. She follows protocols which are wrong. Exasperated, he says I hope this doesn't destroy my daughter's relationship with you and mom. It won't but we draw the line now because I don't set conditions for them nor should they for us.
Covid destroys minds more than any other part of the body. I won't be bullied regardless, nor will I or my wife give in to pressure. Starting down that road then leads to show your vax card to enter. No thanks. We're just a couple of loving grandparents who have their standards, their morals and their common sense. I won't give them up even if it means I'll miss seeing my lovely grand daughter. Sorry, I don't drink Kool Aid. Never liked the stuff nor will I in the future.
I agree with you. It's not like the party is being held at the mother-in-laws house where they can make whatever decision they want. It's her dictating terms at my son's house that's wrong. My refusal to come is pointed more toward him. Grow a pair, son. Time to assert your authority and say it's my home, my child and my parents and I want them to come without conditions. He has to choose if he's a man or wimp. I could crash the party and say no I didn't take the test and cause a scene but why? I want to see my granddaughter without pretext, conditions or pretending. I don't want to play games. I won't force myself on them either. They know I don't have conditions for them to visit me so maybe that's how it's done from here on out?
You are based. God smiles upon you.
You have another party.
You invite everyone.
You stipulate that there will be no mask and no "vaccination" requirements.
Come at your own risk.
Basically that is what is happening. My son called again to ask if we could get together on Sunday and have a separate party for their daughter. I said sure as there are no conditions. Fine with me and it's actually better because only my wife and I, my daughter and her husband both unvaxxed will come too. More time with their 2 kids as well. My son confided that he loves his wife but this has really divided them. He got both of Pfizer shots but no boosters yet. His wife got everything. She also lost the baby 2 months into pregnancy but her mother and doctor assured her the miscarriage has nothing to do with the shots. Right. Too bad they don't follow the science like they profess. I know they're trying again for a second child and all I can do is hope and pray for the best. If the best doesn't happen it won't be a shocker to me.
I have been praying hard for Gods protection over my adult kids. I fear that they will eventually be forced to get the shot because of some mandate or other. I found out over Christmas that the girl my son is seeing got the shot one hour before they paused the mandate. She works in health care. Now I’m concerned as to whether sex can some how impact my son. He is the last male to carry on his late fathers name and I really want grands. My daughter says she isn’t sure she wants any kids.pressure from her guy. Many of us are sick of this fake crap ruing our family’s lives. Bless you and your family as you find your way through this.
Fuck how many kids have been aborted by vaccines?! Infuriating!
I hope your son hasn't had his child vaxxed:
Miscarriage post Vax: https://www.bitchute.com/video/lhHU3naCGMFU/
Stillbirths exploding across Canada after vaccine: https://www.bitchute.com/video/oT9kgc1610CN/
3 yo Argentinian girl has heart attack and dies day after Covid vaccine: https://thecovidworld.com/ambar-suarez-3-year-old-girl-dies-1-day-after-receiving-covid-19-vaccine-investigation-launched
Newborn shaking: https://www.bitchute.com/video/ZrYoJmKVrPgO/
Baby paralyzed after Covid shot: https://www.bitchute.com/video/C9clTiuGzyFO/
Breast fed baby dies when mom vaccinated: https://www.citizensjournal.us/nursing-baby-died-with-blood-clots-inflamed-arteries-following-mothers-pfizer-shot-vaers-report-says/
Boy shaking: https://www.bitchute.com/video/mEEJYaU6Vrtd/
Boy dies seconds after Covid shot: https://www.bitchute.com/video/mEAzGK8batJe/
I've actually shown him so much info that he swears he won't let his daughter get vaccinated. Progress comes little by little.
Kinda like life requires you to show up. At your own risk always...
What this whole thing has done to families and friendships is what I find reprehensible and unforgivable. It's criminal!
Did your daughter in law really have friends that died…that weren’t obese?
You know what? You’re an ass!
Just saying…a lot of people exaggerate to manipulate you…esp if they’re liberals. And you just coming in hot calling people asses …well you got your first amendment. But doesn’t make you holier than thou…god bless
You don’t “God bless me”! You don’t love God! Anyone that discriminates is an ass. Weight or anything else. You want to say something? Say co-mobility’s. So yeah, I am holier than YOU.
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Like that Seinfeld episode w the valet. I think Jerry bought a new car.
My man dropping that red pill knowledge.
Edit: Also, thanks covid for making it a bit easier to find based women. I already have a good intuition as it is.
Just quoting this because it is 1,000,000% factually, irrefutably true and deserves to be repeated & re-read a TON.
I've got an amazing woman of a wife - absolutely amazing - but I find myself still getting little "shit tests" from her periodically.
Same with my 4 year old daughter; It's just how it is with women.
Men have our wonderful little traits too, so this isn't a judgement; just an objective fact about the nature of women.
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Oh absolutely! I get it..... I totally understand WHY women are the way they are & what you said is definitely a big part of it. Basic biology & physics.
Men are physically larger & stronger & can generally take what we want.
Women don't have that advantage, so how does evolution ensure THEIR survival?
Make them extremely adept at emotional & mental manipulation; at getting what they want non-physically.
It really is fascinating..... again; zero judgement; fuck all these queers who think that merely pointing out obvious, factual differences between men & women is passing judgement and expressing superiority of one over the other...... I know you know that......
And yes; the secret is to find a woman who isn't malicious; who hasn't taken a mile of dick so her soul has been fucked out of her.
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Good for you! Your story is, unfortunately, more common than it should be. What horrible times we are living in, when sticking to principles is intended to isolate and shame. My husband and I went through a similar scenario at my mother-in-law’s funeral last week. We refused to be excluded because we were healthy. I thank you for your conviction, and pray for your son and his family to awaken to reason and not be bullied by the fearful. Blessings to you and your wife.
You sir, are a well-informed critical thinker and I admire and respect you. You done good.
I know this might sound harsh.
But what COVID is already doing. It's showing everyone out in the open who really cares for who.
For Example:
My family for the most part are super Anti-Trumpers and Liberals. They know I am unvaxxed and supports Trump.
They had no problem inviting me for Christmas dinner. In fact...they drove out of their way 50+ miles or so to come closer to me.
My nephew wanted to be close to me.
So even though we all have difference views. We still love each other.
A vaccine mandate isn't going to come between that.
Keep this in mind.
What we are experiencing is a bunch of viture signallers!!!
Who only care about making themselves seem like a saint and a good person.
You don't need them in your lives.
I think that's why my Liberal family don't have a problem with me.
None of them are virtue signallers.
So your family is not being ruined in my eyes. COVID is exposing who you should probably cut ties with.
You do tacos Tuesdays with your family? That is awesome. Is it like every Tuesday is a taco Tuesday?
It does sound sweet.
I saw a sermon recently that said if you accept changing times and you follow Gods lead, God will scatter your enemies. I think many of us are standing true in this changing season and God is scattering our enemies and making them known.
No cap
Yep, very true.
Honestly; I'm not so sure that things would be all that different if we went thru any other sort of SHTF scenario; serious economic collapse (not just a recession), actual shooting war, further domestic violence, etc. etc.
People show their true colors when times are tough.
We should all be grateful that we now know beyond a doubt who we can truly count on; who's TRUE family and friends; and who's not.
Who's a coward, who listens to and does exactly what their TV says, etc.
Now we all get to rebuild our families & social circles with people who we KNOW are truly on our time & cut from the same cloth....
I had a similar situation last spring with a bridal shower. The bride and her family (the grandfather is a doctor) wanted everyone, including the children, to wear masks. But the parents (form the groom’s side)would not allow them to wear masks, and so they declined the invitation. But the bride wanted the kids there so my son (the groom) came to me and tried to shame me into demanding the masks be worn, and shaming the aunties for not masking their kids, and I told him that you cannot force people to do things they believe are wrong. I said, “If you want people to come, stop forcing everyone else to comply with your rules. We all believe masking children is abuse, so why would you make them abuse their children in order to bring you a gift?” He agreed, and mask rule was relaxed, so the aunties brought their kids and didn’t mask. Granted, it was at first uncomfortable for the fearful, but guess what? No one got sick. So it was a win.
I had some family issues over Christmas.
My mom called a week prior to let me know that the family gathering at her place was cancelled because of the coof.
I was fine. It's her house. Her decision. She accidentally rang my number and hung up the day before Christmas. I called right back to ask if she was ok. She said all was good and we ended up talking about the weather. There are some coastal mountains between where us kids live and where mom lives on the coast. She mentioned that my sister had to cancel her Christmas visit because of the expected snow.
I was confused. I was under the impression that it was cancelled because of coof. She slipped up it seems. When she called to tell me it was cancelled it was ACTUALLY me getting uninvited because I am the only one left in the family that has not bowed to the state.
The ONLY one going who had a problem with me being pure blood was my dear sister. All others in attendance didn't give two shits.
I told her that it was wrong to un-invite me. She should have left the invite open to ALL and let those who felt uncomfortable make their own choice.
She started crying and hung up. We spoke again on Christmas day and it was as if the previous days conversation never existed. Since it was Christmas I didn't bring it up but I certainly will again.
People have gone absolutely insane.
My sister and I have been in some barn burner arguments for sure. She is family but GAAAAA!
I just want to commend you for being such a polite and assertive person. The boundaries you are setting are so important and you are setting them so gracefully. There is no malice or anger in your tone. Obviously there is a sadness but you have managed to set aside your feelings in order to stand by your convictions ever so professionally. Your actions and words should be the model gold standard for how we should all act around these indoctrinated folks. Bravo and thank you for posting. You obviously have my prayers. I hope to see a very happy update to this story.
I bet that mother-in-law will also request that the granddaughter be tested to attend her own birthday. She sounds like the type. Either that or if the child is old enough she'll request the girl be vaxxed too to stroke her own ego and sense of power in that family.
Take it from personal experience that conservative MILs can be just as deadly. Political leanings are just the flavor of the icing on the cake. They themselves are the cherry.
I can relate to your situation. Thank you for posting as it helps to know we are not alone. Your strength is commendable!
Next time have the gathering at your place and make them the guilty party for not coming. The old switcharoo
Good on you for sticking to your guns.
My parents are 70 and also scared to death of covid. My mom recently said if that if my partner and I got vaxxed she would come visit us.
I said she was free to come visit us vax or no vax but that our vax status will not change, unlike hers which will change every 6 months or so.
The battle for the soul shouldn't be easy. It should test us all, pushing, pulling and bending us but hopefully not breaking.
Very well articulated! I typically get enraged and have a hard time making a point because people’s inability to see the truth is so damn frustrating.
Several weeks ago I took husband to a specialist for some neurological symptoms that weren't diagnosed by other doctors, other than it could be a TIA or dementia. I work as a medical coder so I read charts all day. I was not convinced it's either. The other worthless doctors had put him on statins though his cholesterol was very low and all other lipids were normal. I told husband not to start them and wait until we saw the specialist. The specialist told us it would be DANGEROUS to start those as his lipids were already low. The medical establishment is going down. I'm not worried about my job. I'll find something else to do.
fuck statins
Check out Dr. Berg on YT?
The son should have put his foot down and said that it was their child and their birthday party. He would not exclude anyone due to vax status. Those who want to come can come, those who don’t won’t. The mother-in-law has no right to dictate his and his wife’s household.
So let me make this perfectly clear.
Anyone willing to shit on a child who only has one shot at making memories - is a child abuser.
I don’t mean this lightly.
They get one chance at making these core memories and denying them that is denying them priceless life experiences.
Anyone willing to do that is choosing something other than what is best for that child.
It’s disgusting and i am done with it.
You scared? Stay home. You’re not going to instill fear into my kids or any other kids with me around.
Generations before us dealt with FAR MORE DANGER and yet they STILL MANAGED TO THRIVE.
My grandmother told me about how her happiest memories were during the Great Depression. She went through some SERIOUS ADVERSITY with people dying all around her.
A good parent knows to make these memories. Not doing so is, like I said, grotesque and selfish.
There isn’t enough love in this world to permit giving any away to imaginary things & we are all on borrowed time.
Shame on anyone who would deny a child.
Godspeed.
Denying children these nebulous "memories," if not inflicting physical or emotional harm, is not abuse. Not every life can be perfect, not every life is constantly full of picnics and rainbows. Not every parent is the best parent they could be. But that doesn't mean such situations are literal child abuse, and far from it. By calling your idea of certain memories missing from a kid as child abuse greatly insults literal physical and emotional harm and abuse real children to actually suffer. But what your described certainly is not literal child abuse. Sure, it's not ideal and you'd hope all kids have terrific memories to look back on fondly, but it's not abuse. Don't throw around that word so freely, it is a heavy and serious accusation.
I see your want to deny the reality of what this is.
Research the outcome.
Children are being denied emotional, cognitive, and behavioral experiences that would otherwise be naturally a part of every day life for fear of Covid.
https://www.bmj.com/content/374/bmj.n2031
Many other studies have this drop at over 30 IQ points.
The cause? Purely denying the child typical developmental spatial experiences. Abuse.
Or do you have another way you would phrase this?
I tend to go with Child Abuse when a child is denied the ability to actually cognitively thrive.
Keep in mind the long-term effects of lockdowns are in the air and the spike of adolescent depression and suicides has almost tripled over the past 2 years.
If I was in your position, I would go anyway. That is your son, that is your granddaughter. That lady has no authority to demand testing, or to tell you that you can't go. I would most definitely go without being contentious, and I would leave it up to her if she wants to stay or leave.
My 84 year old FIL is terrified of Covid. He has an auto-immune lung disease that appeared after the 2nd vaccine. Covid will likely kill him especially as he is terrified of taking any horse paste. I was visiting my daughter last summer and Covid was spiking in TX. I was planning on visiting them one weekend and he said I could come over if I wore a mask. I said, no thanks, as politely as I could. He caved and didn’t say a word when I visited a couple of weeks later. I called his bluff and he was scared that it would affect future visits from our very thoughtful daughter.
They thoroughly enjoy our unvaccinated daughters’ weekend visits but he was becoming a tyrant about them proving they didn’t have Covid. One got it (recovered easily.) He was so badgering to her that she is in no rush to make up their missed Christmas. But now she has the best immunity of anyone In the family!
But yes, setting boundaries when tested is key to not having to play any future games.
Well all I can say is I'm proud of you for sticking to your guns. My brother and his wife are both doctors, they have definitely drank the koolaid. Xmas was here and they and their daughter wore masks, none of the rest of us did and there were probably 20 total. We had no problems and that is how it should be. Let the ones who are afraid do what they will and leave the rest of us alone to do what we will.
Thanks for sharing your story❤️. You both are an inspiration. I just was told by my daughter that if I am going to take the kids out, they have to wear masks. I said, what are you afraid of...she replied, the virus and germs. The flu is back on top of new Covid variants. [Big Sign].
Of course at Christmas, the kids wore masks to sing in the “church” choir while the “priest” didn’t wear a mask, nor did the deacon.
And a sick sister to my son-in-law, came over to visit at said daughter’s and didn’t wear a mask...nor did she ask anyone if it was okay that she came around our new grandson. They said, it’s okay cause she is vaxxed...ugh. Months ago, said aunt, was dictating who could see who, while she went to lunch with whomever she wanted.
So frustrating waiting for people to wake up.
Good news:
Good on you for not bowing down. It’s an absolute shame your son isn’t displaying the same stalwart attitude. I’ll pray for you, goodluck and God bless.
Covid is not responsible for hurting your family.
The psychopaths who are running the psyop are the ones responsible.
that's the truth
Entire families bowing to one person's desires. I'm sorry you had to deal with this.
Honestly, you should just go. You are in fact letting her control you by allowing her to prevent you from going.
Go. Let her be the one who is making the scene. When she gets hysterical, you stay calm and let her look like the crazy person.
eta: not a criticism as obviously you know the situation better than I, and seem perfectly competent. Just my opinion on the data presented.
Read my comment above. My son called to ask if we could come the following day and have a separate party for this daughter with no conditions. Sure, we'll come and the handful of people will allow more quality time with her and my daughter's 2 kids too. She and her husband are unvaxxed and that's fine with me.
Good for you for standing up to extended liberal family that thinks they know everything.
People who stand their ground firmly are always an inspiration!
I call bullshit on Betty seeing all these people die of COVID unless they are over the age of 75. My wife is an operating room nurse at the best hospital in the midwest and hasn't seen shit.
You and your wife are gonna be just fine. Your stance is exactly how I will act if, or when, this happens. No fear. No complying. I hope you two have Jesus Christ in your life. For strength and answered prayers. You two are what is keep civility in this world. Me and my wife are the same. We don’t bend, or break...only to God will I do so. Amen brother. Love you and your wife. Your son will see this eventually, and he will need to be the man of the house, for his daughter, eventually. Like his dad.
Awesome job. Keep it up! 👍❤️💯🙏
I'm so sorry. Your son's mother-in-law is a cunt.
I hope your son gets seriously based before the MIL insists the baby be vaxxed. That would be the line in the sand for me.
I'm sure it's on her mind. In fact my son said the preschool they want to send her to is saying she needs to be vaxxed. I told him to find another school or get ready for homeschooling. We will see. I can only tell them my position and give the reasons. I can show them the studies and incidence of Covid among kids, I can do what I can but I can't change the school or mother-in-law or his wife.
I do not envy your situation...just your civility and tolerance.
You forgot to mention that you can't change your son either along with the rest of the people you listed. It's his life, his family, his child. It's his and his wife's positions to decide choices for their family, and you have to let him life his own life too.
Well, I've been sending a ton of info to my son regarding the vax in kids. The last was the video Dr. Malone put out very straight to the point...don't vax your kids with this mRNA vaccine. He sends back a "fact check" link trashing Malone. So, I send him 3 recent links about Facebook admitting in court their so called fact checks were only opinions. Later that night I spoke to him and he swore he'd never let his daughter get the C19 vax. Maybe some progress being made? Hope so.
Godspeed patriot. Give that son of yours a kick in the ass.
We crossed this bridge very early with my family. Fortunately everyone is redpilled in general - but a few took the blue pill early on with covid.
I had to put my foot down with my dad pretty early on. We're not wearing masks. The non-elderly are not getting vaccinated. We're not canceling family events. Period.
Fortunately outside of covid he is extremely based so it was an easy conversation. The whole family are members of that fundamentalist denomination your news service warned you about. So we know that death is gain. Even should it come to that.
Simply tell your son, "Our rights do not end where your mother-in-law's fears begin. We love you all very much, but if you cannot find it within you to stand up for our rights then we will arrange another time to spend time with our wonderful granddaughter and with you and your wife.".
Hell, throw your granddaughter a second birthday party where everybody invited is free to make their own decisions. She'll have twice the wonderful memories.
My son called back later in the day and did that without us having to ask. He wanted to see us and for us to she his daughter but didn't want to cross swords with the mother in law. So he threaded the needle and invited us to come the next day. I would have preferred him standing his ground with the MIL but this actually works better since less people means more time with the girl and and my 2 granddaughters from my unvaxxed daughter and husband who are coming to be with us.
Yeah it’s pretty miserable. My 90 year old grandpa is so terrified of COVID that he is triple vaxxed and will be getting every future booster until he dies. He still will not let me come to his house without testing first. I just do it because I want to have him in my life for his final years. He is borderline dementia, so he really can’t think logically for himself anyway.
I think you did the right thing. I would have done the same. I'm ready for life to go back to normal. I wish more people would put their foot down & say, I'm not going to go along with this nonsense.