Thread: http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/359533002/im-a-biologist-and-virologist-i-think-i-know-what
I work in a private hospital in europe, I'm rarely in contact with patients and mostly work on sample analysis and data review, I have the equivalent of 2 Phds and an MD in virology, I never worked on cutting edge genetic research but I am very knowledgeable on the subject Basically a host of things that happened in the last 2 years don't make any sense as far disease containment and "normal" medical procedures go, this is not a secret and is not controversial, indeed right now many of the standards and protocols valid up to 2020 are being entirely rewritten, and to say that not everyone is on board is an understatement. I'm being silent personally because I wouldn't even know where to start, but not a single doctor I know thinks that it's all perfectly organic, scientific and genuine. Something very funky is going on relating to vaccinations, hospital protocols regarding respiratory diseases and basic principles of disease control, something extremely coordinated and not "doctor-lead", this is entirely coming down to us and we don't have a choice in the matter, these decisions are made at the administrative level and forced on all of us
The biggest red flag is the change in narrative related to vaccination induced mutation, basically the ability of viruses to evolve when in contact with ever changing antibodies, it's a recognized and fairly logic risk that was completely uncontroversial up to 2 years ago, bringing up this matter now is an immediate risk as the "consensus" now is that it's GOOD for the virus to mutate, for some reason that changes every 2 days
100% vaccination in the population has never been a feasible nor reasonable nor effective means of preventing disease, yet right now this is ignored (it's the crux of the matter), and I think I know why
I've seen too many unreasonable decisions taken and too many changes in protocol that make a mockery of my field, as such I've gotten extremely cynical on this whole matter, so let me state this clearly:
I genuinely believe a group of disgusting people working in the highest insitutions of medicine and the richest pharmaceutical companies are DELIBERATELY trying to prolong covid as much as possible, destroying everyone and everything in their path to achieve this, for money. They basically want to buy new houses and yachts (that's literally it) and have found an exceptional way to do so, while at the same time patting themselves on the back that they're "saving humanity" so they must deserve these riches, that's what they tell themselves so they can sleep peacefully, they think they are great businessmen/philantropists. They are deliberately trying to make covid mutate, they KEEP running experiments on it trying to force a mutation (for research) and I periodically see articles of these animal test subjects suffering "incidents" where they are freed/lost and a risk arises of further mutation, sooner or later this is going to actually happen. These experiments keep going on all the time and not just on covid, gain of function research is EVERYWHERE and nobody seems to have the courage to say "why are we doing this?", you're told this is the frontier of science and doubting it makes you a target for sticking your nose in a trillion dollar industry and ruin their little scheme. Most politicians from most countries in the world have open ties to this industry, and the arrangements and contracts between governments and vaccine manifacturers are public, they don't even need to hide.
We had been waiting for a pandemic to come, we were ready and able to contain and resolve it, but AS SOON as covid came all power was removed from the hands of physicians and entirely placed into those of management, they set the new standards and forced everybody to comply, the result is that right now the medical profession is being "purged", look at how many medical licenses were removed in the last 2 years, what's going on is terrifying and disgusting. I wanted to get this off my chest, I don't have a lot of proof for this but now I'm 100% convinced that this is what's going on. Just know that most doctors are simply scared to death of even using their brain, they follow protocol and don't question anything. Among those who think, 99% keep it private. The 1% who speaks out are silently removed and their contribution erased, making their sacrifice pointless. I may be one of these in the near future, I may snap and get my license revoked as well and maybe that would be for the best.
Love some of these comments:
I didn’t really learn anything that I didn’t already know, except how many people did you stick with the jab?
It’s actually shocking that with that much indoctrination he can still manage an original thought.
Despite substantial flaws, our system of education, i.e. what is taught in the sciences is actually pretty good. There are I believe many things left out, and a few falsities added in, but the actual stuff taught is fairly solid. In fact, by the time you reach graduate school you begin to be taught critical thinking (note that this does not include M.D. degrees, but Masters/Ph.Ds). By critical thinking I mean, being critical about what is being taught.
In other words, around about graduate school you are taught to question the narrative. HOWEVER (big caveat), we are also taught to not challenge that which is dogma. So we can question other people's work (thinking critically), we just can't question the "laws" of science.
It is a double edged sword. We are taught our whole lives to not think critically, but you can't have PhDs not thinking critically; it makes no sense. You would never get anywhere. So within a persons specialization people are taught to think critically, up to the point where it challenges The Matrix. Then the walls are put up, the self-correcting mechanisms kick in, and people remain contained within those boundaries.
But, PhDs are absolutely taught to question the narrative, and that's an important consideration when talking about "indoctrination." They don't receive more indoctrination than the general populace. In a way they are the only ones to receive direct training in how to escape The Matrix.
They may receive an extra dose of dogma at the highest level, and they are taught to not use that training anywhere but within their specialty, but they receive these extra lessons because their training is the most likely to show the glitches in The Matrix.
No they aren’t. Been there. Done that.
In the sciences, they absolutely are. In "political science" or "social science" or "gender studies" etc. maybe you are right. I have no idea, but in biology, physics, chemistry, computer science, etc. we are taught to be skeptical of other people's work.
We are taught to trust the overarching narrative; thus my statements on adherence to dogma, but thinking critically about other people's work in that field is absolutely part of what is taught in graduate school.
You said:
Then you said:
You contradict yourself. Not sure what you mean by “the narrative” in science. Yes, we critique other’s work. Usually that means refusing to publish anything that doesn’t agree with the current paradigm (dogma). So, being critical of the work of others is not the same as questioning the narrative, whatever that means.
It is not a contradiction in context.
We are taught to question the narrative in the minutia.
We are taught to trust the overarching narrative.
Because we are taught to question the narrative in the minutia, this leads to all the same skills required to question the larger narrative (the dogma). It is because we receive years of training to question the ongoing narrative, and taught to use genuine critical thinking within that scope, that we require extra training to not question the dogma.
For the most part this extra training is just an extra dose of the same mind control techniques that control the larger population. For example, no one wants to be a conspiracy theorist. It's the worst thing a person can be. If you are one, you will be hated by all. In science, in addition to that motivation, you also don't want to be a crackpot, or a quack, etc. You also won't receive funding for "fringe" science, and thus won't "waste your time" looking into those ideas that others have bravely investigated on their own dime (or DARPA's).
The thoughts are controlled so strictly, with multiple layers of Matrix self-correction (economic, social, moral, etc.) that the path of least resistance is to adhere strictly to the dogma.
But the training we receive is exactly the training to see outside of The Matrix, thus the requirement for extra controls, and the constant pushing of the dogma from cradle to grave for those in the sciences.
Only dim witted little shits can withstand the leadducation's attacks on the mind, last that long be called Doctored.
Imagine sitting in a classroom knowing the guy talking to you is 1) talking about 30 yrs outdated shit 2) not talking about all the relevant classified / NDA shits 3) Telling you subliminally you are gonna be ripped off and to go do business instead.
You: Derp Derp, I'm a sponge, Bob keep teaching me.
Him: No you aren't getting it, I'm here to warn you all CHINA STOLE EVERYTHING.
You: Derp Derp, you funny.
If not a larp he's mid 30s with 12-16 years of "higher learning" programming to overcome. He's also still digging out from loan hell and not free of it for years. So by his own hand he's committed himself to playing along to get along. All the preceding has been preventing him from wrongthink.
TL;DR, I agee.
I agree. " Just doing my job", " just following orders" will not be good enugh.
pretty much.
"trying to prolong covid"
This was obvious with the lockdowns and masks. Which was in early 2020.
"for money"
It always has been.
Trying to prolong the covid narrative, by trying to inject everyone with poison, and then using that as an excuse to manufacture more headlines.
There was a British study, I think Oxford University, very early on that said that if you let COVID-19 rip through the population it creates a firewall of immunity and dies out, but if you keep locking down again and again you're timing it perfectly to do a slow burn that kills the maximum number of people possible over time. We've known.
Yep. Got emergency surgery in a red state a few months ago. Was worried they'd try to pressure me into taking the jab in order to get said surgery. The one person who asked me was relived to see me say fuck no and agreed with me when I denied them. The only mask enforcer I dealt with was the woman who ran the triage unit and felt satisfaction when she bullied a homeless man into cucking themselves so he could get himself a new manual wheel chair from their social worker. Evil does not only exist in the policy makers. They also exist in the policy enforcers.
Authority without accountability always attracts evil. Bottom feeders will take ANY level of power over people when they can, no matter how petty.
Perfectly stated. I cannot stand those types. Satan’s brown shirts.
The money angle is so the politicians can save face.
As bad as the greed motive sounds, depopulation is far worse in the public eye. They will try to throw a few low tier physicians and politicians under the bus and call it a day, hoping that such actions appease the masses. They may even throw Fauci to the wolves. What ever they can do to stop people from catching on to the depopulation agenda, they will do. Once the public is fully awakened to the evil taking place, their game will be over, and their necks in the noose.
Yeah this not about money, they have plenty of that.
Their power and ability to control us has been crumbling and they're desperate to keep it. They have a mission (one world gov, reign of the antichrist etc) that they've been collectively working on for a long time, and they're not about to see it go down the drain without a fight.
It is depopulation. I got Covid in June 2020 and I have not been well since then. I have problems with my immune system (mitochondrial antibodies) according to my doctor which I suspected it because I can’t breath right or smell, I get sick every month and feel weak and my heart and liver are not functioning well plus I am very slim can’t gain weight. I do not drink or smoke and try to eat as healthy as I can, but I took azithromycin and didn’t know it will made more sick. Do not take any medications. They are killing us.
Yeah I take issue with the "Covid isn't real" crowd because no cold or fly ever has such prolonged effects and what my family and I came down with was unlike anything I've ever felt before. It was like the equivalent of a more potent synthetic version of a drug.
I didn't have it too bad, but the demolishing of my short term memory, rapid fatigue, along with other symptoms lead me to conclude this is not your common cold/flu.
The communists' made-up threat about the worst disease ever is what is not real. It's not a species-ender or planet buster. People are getting sick and dying, but the already sick are the ones dying.
I'm aware, but that is different from people saying the disease or virus isn't real. Of course it's overblown and the measures taken were erratic and more damaging than the disease itself by a long shot.
But I'm referring by people who literally deny it, while wanting Fauci to hang for being responsible for funding it. How do those people reconcile those 2?
Have you tried anything?
Just curious if the "kitchen sink" treatment could be of use to help with this or godisglory's issue?
For me it wasn't too long lived, a couple of weeks with a concentration of about 5 days of the most foggy-minded state of being where I couldn't even finish my sentences because I forgot what I was saying. And absolute lethargy and lack of will to do anything
My family was the same way, we all got together for my mother's birthday and my brother brought it to us.
I had IVM on hand and got us all on it promptly along with zinc, vit D and multivitamins.
We were all on quercetin and zinc supplements for weeks/months prior as well.
I believe it was radiation of 5 G’s towers the cabal installed while we were in lockdowns. I do not believe it was a flu or a cold it was more than that. I used to have a very good inmune system until 2020. Plus people has more cancer now after this “Covid thing”
Vaccines suppress the immune system and killer t cells.
But I do believe there is something to 5g towers as well. That type and intensity of radiation on a consistent stream is bound to cause issues.
But why wouldn't we have covid consistently if it is the 5g or at the same time?
I do not know the answer maybe our bodies are adjusting, maybe it is something they throw in the wind. Just can tell you it was something bad that affected me in a way I have never felt.
I’m wondering if Dr Zev’s protocol would help. There has got to be something that can reverse the on going symptoms. Also, look up Dr Tenpenny - she has discussed natural remedies to reverse symptoms. Contact America’s Frontline Doctors too. Sorry, no links! There are resources out there—you just have to dig. Take Vit C, D, Zinc, and quercetin. Try L-Lysine too! Good luck! Ps - I’m unvaxed and got COVID last April. My smell has not fully returned either….but seems to get better as time passes!
I didn’t get the jab either and I have Vitamin c, d zinc and quercetin + ivermectin in pills and horse paste just in case. In my case, it has been almost 2 years and getting worse. This thing was bad for me, but my mom and sister got lucky (no after symptoms)😞
You need to find a based doctor. Or, go on telegram — I don’t have an account but my sister does. There are tons of videos about natural remedies that can help with COVID symptoms and vax spike proteins. It’s a good thing you didn’t get the vax though! Good luck! I wish you better health in 2022!
It is almost more of about draining society of its resources than making an extra buck the higher up you go.
The objective isn't population control so much as total control of the population. They don't just want to kill a bunch of us off. They want the survivors enslaved too.
I saw the Steve Bannon interview posted last night with the former financial insider.
His take was that this is all to help cover up fraudulent financials at the highest levels of government and corporations, AND to keep everyone under tight control when everything does fall apart.
That makes sense to me. It’s not just control because they want to control us (although they do), but also control because they know they’re committing unsustainable fraud and the best way to avoid consequences AND be able to continue that fraud is to ensure that you’re always in control of those who could hold you accountable.
That’s why it’s not just the vaccine and what it’s doing to people. It’s about normalizing putting conditions on our freedom. It’s about being able to suppress our ability to gather amongst each other.
It’s about introducing means of digitizing our currency. And locking our money, our jobs and our ability to be part of society behind tightly controlled gates that they can close on us anytime we threaten them.
So, no, it’s not just about “buying yachts”. It’s that a lot of corrupt people have snowballed increasingly fraudulent behavior that could collapse at any moment, and this (combined with depopulation) is the only way to cover it up.
Yes, I believe you are correct. They want to enslave us by social credit/digital currency where they can turn off our electricity, etc. These people are so demented.
I agree. The political and financial elite have been crying about overpopulation for decades. And also, interestingly, about the demographic crisis, meaning too many old people and not enough young people to support them.
Who does covid mostly kill? What age group are most of the immigrants they're shuffling everywhere? Makes you think doesn't it. Almost like it's the simplest, dumbest and most heavy handed solution you could apply to the problem. Kill the old people and import a bunch of young ones.
Watch house sales like book deals. Easy to hide a payoff when you add a little icing to the asking price
"They just want yacths and money. That's it!". This guy is an agent or a troll. We all know exactly what is going on here. As if big pharma wasn't big enough and they don't already have all the money in the world lmao.
Bullshit.
I think its a normie having hard time realising the truth and trying to make sense of events, money is an easy explanation and his mind is not yet open enough to see it is much darker. It's not easy for non conspiracy folk to grasp the reality of things.
A normie going to 4chan and knowing how to use it? I dunno.
Imagine if you went to the doc and found 4chan memes all over his wall in the surgery.. lol
Lmao
You'd be surprised actually. Plenty of 4chan users are no better than normies when it comes to alleged 'conspiracies'.
Yeah the money angle is bullshit. Even if "money" is just his smooth brain term for the more accurate "wealth" it's still bullshit because depopulating the world and enslaving the remaining population nets you less wealth in the long run.
My money is on any of the following:
Not the people giving the ‘boosters’ and forcing masks. They were just tricked, the coordination and over-arching hand in this are the depopulationists. The doctors are just sheep with a god complex and large mortgages.
I think it is number 3. The greatest evils in this world have always been done by people who thought they were the good guys. Hitler truly believed he was trying to save the world from the inevitable collapse of capitalism as Marx foretold. The road to hell is paved with good intentions. Evil for the sake of evil is a rare thing.
Soros is basically a Bond villain, or the emperor from Star Wars, in real life, but even he probably twists it that he’s doing something good in his own mind.
theres a group of people who run the federal reserve. money is however much they need to accomplish this mission. the same group people who run the banks run the pharms and the media ill let you figure it out.
Easy there, goyim!
mordechai! I never fancied running into you here! shalom.
Thats even hard for me to believe and I think it's true. You don't get to that point without a lot of red pills first. Money is the easy explanation. Mass murder is too terrible to be true they think.
Fake and gay.
Now they trynna say they were just greedy instead of psychotic. Sad thing is, you may get off on that some of you. But I'm optimistic each one of y'all are swingin'.
If he believes this is true and is seeing things happening to prove it, and he and others in his field and place of employment are not standing up against it, especially as a group who seems to be larger in knowing something is wrong than group who doesnt, they are fucking complicit. THEY are ALLOWING the evil to continue. They are playing a part in allowing evil to be done to their fellowman.
Fuck them, too
Ironically, they remain silent to hold onto their jobs. Which is of course about money.
So what is new about this or even remotely controversial? Not hating, but what is written above is as clear as day to anyone just following it slightly besides what the TV is telling them. What he his writing above is best case scenario. That pharma corrupted things just to make a buck. I'm of the opinion that it's way worse then that, but any way.
I suppose the only thing in the message is there's a silent (cowardly) majority amongst medical professionals that think they know the misdeeds going on. In any case he can go fuck himself for being such a spineless coward.
This is just common sense at this point. The only way to win is for each and every one of us to remain as independent of the government beast system as possible.
We have to learn new skills, develop self reliance, live simply, and reduce our lives to the key essentials until we migrate to our parallel economy.
If we all started gardening, edible landscaping, farming, building our own homes and structures, maintained our own vehicles etc etc we would not only lead healthier lives but we would make the beast system that much weaker.
If we plan to win, it will be through many generations of “economic protest/boycotting” and relearning the skills of old and transferring those skills to our offspring. Which we all would need many of lol
It's not about money. They can print themselves new houses and yachts whenever they like. The ultimate 3d printer is the printer of money. It's about control, compliance, and subjugation.
We're coming up on the 16-24 month period where the vaxxed are supposed to start dying en mass...
I don't think it's going to be as bad as predicted, but obviously it's not going to be great either... we'll see.
Please don't forget that the "vaxxes" are not all equal. There are bad batches and not-so-bad batches. So if some people get fucked by the vax, that doesn't mean everyone gets fucked. Think of it as Russian Roulette. A game no one should play.
My feelings exactly. But we just won't know until we have data.
We will have to keep our eyes on countries like Israel where the boosters were given to most. Here in the US I dont think people are lining up for the boosters. Anecdotally, I know a dozen or two vaxxed individuals and not one of them will admit to getting the booster. Not even my uncle who is caregiver for an endstage MS wife and a stage 4 cancer son and was gung ho on the death serum when they first came out. (BTW he is not a lefty, he voted Trump and is MAGA on everything else)
And now Fauci is whining because he cant understand why the US is lagging on the boosters.
I think the boosters were always set up to be the real kill shot. The original 2 doses were many different formulations used as clinical trials to see what the effects of certain ingredients and in what combinations best killed the recipient.
I do believe this person even though he does seem to miss the depopulation aspect. But then when you think about it the depopulation agenda may be largely rooted in money. Useless feeders, as they like to call people, cost money. The perfect fix for our bleeding Social Security racket is to eliminate those set to receive it. All retirements for that matter. They keep extending the age to be eligible for retirement in hopes of you being dead or nearly dead before it is time for you to collect what you paid into the system. When you die your hard assets live on. Money is certainly a huge part of all of this. If it were possible to do a worldwide financial audit of everyone who has profited off of the last two years it would smoke our brains. Remember, war is a racket. Wars are an evil put upon us by the puppet masters to keep the big money coming their way. Depopulation is a very profitable business. We are in the midst of a World War for sure. The same ones who profited from previous hot wars are profiting even more off of this silent and for the most part invisible war. Because the sheep weren’t as complicit as they had hoped they will have to eventually move on to a hot war to finish with the extermination agenda.
Don’t be hard on the author of this post for not standing up against the system. Unless there is a coordinated massive group standing up in unison there is no power. One person speaking up is easily silenced. This is why there is a massive coordinated censorship campaign going on to silence all who speak out. We were under the impression that Canadians in general were just happy to be sheep. Well we were wrong on that. They just had no power as individuals and had no idea how to unite themselves and be heard. The Canadian Freedom Convoy was the very thing they needed to empower them to stand up. Trucks are big! Their horns are loud! They give visibility and voice to the masses who have been suffering under increasing tyrannical rule. This has given them and the world hope. Their light was dim and weak but now it burns brightly. The whole world needs to join this movement all at once. There are more of us then there are of them. We need an avenue to speak out. The visibility of this movement has disturbed the bad guys because it unites and brings hope to the silent majority. It gives people the courage to stand up when they can see they are not alone. We must be silent no more! Thank you Canadian Truckers for this movement. You have given hope to the world. They have breached the dam that had been holding humanity back. Once a dam is breached there is no holding the water back. Only a worldwide concerted effort is going to put an end to this evil they have put upon us.
This is a bunch of nothing
"I figured it out you guise! They're trying to prolong it instead of cure it! OMG I'm so smart!"
Oh wow, did you figure that all by yourself? And it only took you 3 degrees and a couple years huh?
Get this guy a Nobel prize.
2 PhDs, yet uses run-on sentences in every paragraph. Nah, bro. Fake
It's odd to me ... they're on those boards and are just NOW thinking that?
It's either a old old post or a fed
The author doesn't sound like a larp, but more of a normie that's waking up.
And in response to all that, i say NSS. (Respectfully)
But it goes deeper too.
At some point this individual will realize its not just about yachts or mansions. Those at just perks.
I believe the puppets are buying the yachts, the puppet masters seek more power and control. It’s not all about yachts.
This is what the push for socialized medicine was for. The beginning of the end for heathcare in America was Obamacare
all he said is true but I knew this a year ago and I am not a virologist or MD.....when a directive can go out in a country instructing every lab to run a certain test in a certain way that goes against common practices and knowledge, you know its a planned scamdemic.......
Well, I should say, history teaches an important lesson. If you leave it to the book-keepers, you will be very safe, but without a pulse.
works in a lab.
posts no data or analysis about the jab.
Who does this licensing? If the administrative agencies that control licensing are totally corrupt, is any medical license even valid? Do they have the authority to license?
Fraud vitiates everything. Renders things void ab initio - from the outset. Sounds good but usually not adhered to when doing so would have a "too big to fail" result. But I would love to see the fraudulent elections dating back decades exposed, and be able to argue that the administrative state(s) that our fraudulently elected officials have put on steroids since the 1990's, and all the rules and regulations they have crafted, thrown out the window. No more HHS, FDA, EPA, DOL or any of their respective state agencies. The whole rotten thing needs to be torn down.
Yep
" this is entirely coming down to us and we don't have a choice in the matter," I beg to disagree with that statement. Saying I was just doing what I was told isn;t going to save anyone!
He has about 40% of the story. Money is short term. But this is preaching to the choir here. We all know long term is depop. Short term is vax passports, social credit, compliance, chips, disease, more medication...... Why can't people see the next steps coming down the line?
Soo... Gitmo?
Maybe this guy will start using his brain soon and actually question what they taught him. https://greatawakening.win/p/141EwP3XhD/x/c/4JKyu3Dv2ph
Many comments so I’ll just say this person should come out asap. If it’s 1% of the physicians that have come forward and we know what we know, every additional one adds safety and confirmation. What career will those who fail to speak the truth have going forward anyway?
Larp or not, it's useless info that doesn't help anyone.
Doesn't read like it was written by an intellect that has 'accouple of PhD's and an MD in Virology' by the way is that even a thing.
Viruses aren't real.
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