"WWIII" is happening and this is what the US Senate is worried about....
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Actually, this is the first useful thing that they have passed in a long time. I actually support this. I appreciate having more daylight hours. I know that the timing is bad, but hey, at least they’re not passing more spending bills, gun control, or federal election laws.
You can't "have more daylight hours".. they are taking away a daylight hour in the winter time so it's a wash. I'd rather not have the sun set at 5pm, personally.
DST is another control mechanism of the elites. Most plebs suffer weight gain and sleep loss around DST. They're fucking with us. It does not "benefit farmers" which is the official narrative, since they have to get up when the animals get up anyway.
Sure, but it allows people to get more done later in the day when they're off work.
I’m happy if they just leave the time at where it is now. I could live with them fixing it at the earlier hour too. I just want them to pick one and keep it.
Yes DST never made sense it’s not like the sun has a clock. Depending on latitude so amount of sun hours.
And the farmers can farm 24x7. Even without it they would work dawn to dusk. Didn't matter what time it was.
Truth. Most farmers in my area harvest and plant well after dark as long as the conditions are good. DST I always thought was smooth brain bullshit
What's the difference. Dark is dark
The timing matters, particularly up north here in Canada. Last week I would get home from work at 5:30 and the sun would set at 6:30. Not really much time to do stuff. Now with this time it’s light until 7:30. I can take my kids out and actually do stuff in daylight. It makes a meaningful difference as to when you get off work relative to the suns schedule.
what else is in the bill
This
Agree 10 x 100
The language is convoluted though, as is the tradition.. "daylight savings time" infers by definition a polarity... Can't really call it that right? Like that's the name for the thing they just abolished.... Right?
I didnt read the bill and yes the “savings time” wording is bogus it should be “Adjustment” time since we save nothing but have to adjust our clocks both chrono and body.
I wish they would have split the difference and made it a 30 minutes offset.
Fall back 30 minutes this fall and be done.
Then we'd consistently be 30 minutes out of sync with the entire rest of the world, as time zones are divided into different full hour segments. You can't just move 30 minutes back and still work with the time zones around the world.
https://www.timeanddate.com/time/time-zones-interesting.html
Several regions are 30 and 45 minutes off.
https://theinfinitekitchen.com/advices/readers-ask-do-all-time-zones-have-the-same-minutes/
YES the kids are what this is about now, hobby gardeners after work should not factor into the decision making when kids are so disproportionately affected. My thought is a half hour compromise, take us back a half hour in the fall and leave it. Otherwise we should look at creating another timezone or two and reconfiguring timezones so the west portions of timezones arent so out of whack
I thought the same thing. I haven't seen congress do anything that would actually affect my life in a way that I agree with for a long time... but this will.
Dark to Light
hmmmmmm
Yes seems like comms of some sort.
That's interesting.... Never thought about it like that.... 🤔
These bastards I swear to God. Why on earth would you do this instead of keeping standard time? Russia already tried this, come winter it leads to massive psychological damage due to lack of sunlight outside work hours. Smh
In this case, I think it's to give us more daylight. The plan is to Spring forward permanently March 2024 giving us those extra hours of light each day, never having to "fall back".
How is there “extra hours” of daylight? The sun doesn’t have a clock.
The purpose used to be for people to have more daylight in the early hours because we were an agrarian society. As the seasons shifted in order to maintain regular hours, the clocks shifted to provide an hour more daylight in the morning and an hour less in the evening. Now we are mostly 8am to 5pm workers. We want daylight in the evenings, not the mornings. Who cares if you drive to work in the dark? We want an hour of daylight when we get home at night to spend with our kids outside.
Kids getting on the bus at 7 am, would you rather their be some light for them or no light at all for about 2 months. We need to keep standard time NOT daylight savings
Jeezus just start school later. Pussified reasons.
Making schools start later results in work starting later for the vast majority of 8 to 5's, with us winding up at standard time.
I agree, DST permanent means the sun doesn't rise until 9:45am where I am.
Ahh another who understands the pain of being on the westside of their time zone!
Farmers don't even use clocks where I'm from. When the sun rises you go tonwork.. when it sets you go home. Winter is no problem because we don't farm in the winter. Not a good explanation.
That's correct I think. I hate the "fall back." It's dark at 4:30 pm in December.
On December 21st the sun rises at 8:44AM and sets at 3:07PM where I am at. If they make daylight savings time permanent it will be dark until 9:44am when the sun rises. They need to keep normal time not daylight savings time.
It is about the kids getting on the bus in the morning, if we dont fall back then it is dark in the mornings for them for about 2 months depending on where you live, whereas if we keep the standard time then they have some light. I think we should get rid of daylight savings time and keep standard time year round. Everybody is looking at this through the lens of themselves after work, we need to think about the kids!!
No! You can't legislate in extra sunlight!
All this does is move an hour of sunlight from the morning to the evening. This makes little difference in the summer when sunlight is plentiful, but come wintertime you're going to see parents complain that their children are either waiting for the bus in the dark, or worse that all the 16-18 year old high schoolers driving to school in the dark are causing an uptic in accidents.
Apparently, I'd just looked it up earlier today, Congress went to full DST in 1973, and predictably the fake news NY Times shilled for the change prior and called it "stupid" after, and the whole thing was a complete disaster and was swiftly repealed after 8 months.
I'm telling you now, it was a bad idea then, and it is a bad idea now!
Standard time year round is what we need, thank you for sharing your take!
If you lock into daylight savings time, that would become standard time. By keeping this DST as normal time, there would be more light at the end of the work day.
Which is not good for kids getting on the bus in winter time, we need to keep standard time year round!
Go to school later.
Making schools start later results in work starting later for the vast majority of 8 to 5's, with us winding up at standard time.
Kids have always already stood in the dark for the bus or drove to school in the dark. I did for basically all of my high school years for sure. It's realistically not going to change anything in regards to that.
Right but the difference is whether it is 2 months or 4 months. Unnecessary increased risk for our kids.
Maybe that’s the point
Then change the work hours in the winter. We act so stupid sometimes.
Couldn't have said it better!
This is more important than it seems. This Daylight Savings Time permanent thing was tried in the 1970s, and led to small children waiting outside in the dark for school buses. Who, exactly, wants small children waiting by themselves in the dark?
Install more light poles or adjust school hours.
School hours are where they are because of parents' working hours. If we have to change all this too isnt it easier to just keep standard time which provides more light for winter mornings??
If their parents are fine with leaving them alone in the dark to wait for the bus why should I have a problem with it? If it's a problem I nominate their parents or guardians deal with the issue as they're not my kids. When my parents were children they walked to school, so if they managed to not die crossing multiple streets I think today's kids will be OK standing on the sidewalk.
A disappointingly low number, which makes Darwinian selection all the more important.
So, I had to come home in the dark at night. Sonwhats the difference?
When I played sports it was always dark by the rime we finished. We sound so weak with this shit.
We're talking about little children, not teenagers and not adults.
Yeah, throughout all my high school years, I went to school when it was still dark cuz I had morning sports workouts and started school at 7AM for extra classes, and then I came home in the dark after sports in the afternoon every day. I did this every winter all winter long throughout highschool. It seriously doesn't matter and I never really gave it a second thought. Sure it was depressing to sometimes be in school all the time that sunlight was out during the week, but that's winter for ya. People here can be such outrage junkies, it's not a trait reserved for the left and their fear porn, that's for sure...
Human traffickers of course! Congress is throwing a bone to who they really represent....
It’s probably full of laundered money schemes and gives Israel another few million for no reason at fucking all
That’s nothing. Last week the First Minister of Scotland pardoned some witches who had been drowned or burnt at the stake - I forget exactly - 400 years ago. This is prioritisation!
Actually yeah I think this is actually useful. Don't get me wrong ww3 is a prob, but changing the clocks is so outdated
It's only a World War if enough countries don't mind their own damn business. At the moment it's a small regional conflict, and not even a particularly bad one.
I know it's not ww3, just making a quick statement about the current state of affairs as it stands rn
Got to earn their 21% raise somehow, so make it appear like they are “working”. But the can’t read 2000 page “bills” spending more money in a country known for money laundering back to politicians and the powerful. Bet it takes less than 24 hours to print and send the money too, just like government handouts to illegals. U.S. citizens can wait months and years for stimulus checks and empty promises re. student loan forgiveness. I know, student loans were of their own decisions, but I am just using this as an example of non-sensical decisions based on corruption and party affiliation.
i've been waiting for this for YEARS ... congress never 'has time' to look at it though, so it probably won't happen again this year ... its stupid to keep changing clocks 2x's a year
Something about this is more comms than reality. But if it's real, that's a strange unanimous consent regardless
I actually like the time change. It's purpose is useful. In summer it makes for longer days. Later sunsets. The fall back moves the mornings with more light when kids are getting on school busses and we're not going to work in the dark. It's also beneficial to all the farmers around me.
The farmers were the ones who argued against it when it was first implemented in 1918. It was repealed 7 months later and not fully brought back till the 60s.
I dont know about farmers thoughts 100+ years ago. I am stating personal experience with my neighbors. Actual dairy and corn farmers.
In my opinion this might be because they have no power to do anything right now. Yes, they supposedly passed a spending bill with billions of dollars to Ukraine but how do we know that money will actually be sent there, how do we know it's legal? If the government is truly under COG, will these spending bills be legal? I don't know the answer to that and not sure if anyone here really does either. We can theorize all we want but we really don't know.
Did anyone check to see if amnesty was slipped in?
dark to light?
Standard time is the one to keep, daylight savings time will have the unintended effect of more kids getting kidnapped at bus stops since it will be dark in the mornings for them, I cannot help but think this is a bone being thrown at the human trafficking industry because how else can you explain anything getting passed in congress?? The dems won't even legalize pot that they have campaigned on for the last decade.
Pretty sure all the leftists are lauding over this, "YAAAAS! I don't lose my sleeping hour!"
I’m sure they have an evil agenda for this & might sneak something in the wording that benefits them. However, I’m all for it! I am a different person from March to mid October. The only reason I didn’t have SAD, seasonal affective disorder, is because we really didn’t have a winter until January here in North Carolina. Temps stayed from 60-75 until January I don’t understand it but I have trouble functioning and my mind isn’t as sharp in the winter. It’s probably from multiple pain conditions, IDK.
Interestingly some states or areas don’t participate in Daylight Savings. Hawaii is on regular time & there’s a small part of Indiana that doesn’t change time. Maybe more places, those are the only ones I know of. I wonder if they will fight it.
Isn’t it up to the individual states?
Yes that’s what I thought as I know AZ doesn’t change clocks.
This is a huge deal. It has everything to do with the Satanic timeline, and their witchcraft.
I would love to stop the time resetting BS myself.
Daylight savings time is stupid, they can't even do that right. 12 noon should be the middle of the day.
No solar noon is only a few minutes off.
Currently (flipping dst):
Solar Noon Dec 21: 11:56AM
Solar Noon June 21: 12:59PM
Permanent DST (this bill):
Solar Noon Dec 21: 12:56PM
Solar Noon June 21: 12:59PM
Permanent Standard Time (Which is what they should do):
Solar Noon Dec 21:11:56AM
Solar Noon June 21: 11:59AM
I'm actually on board with this
fuck daylight savings time. fucking around with peoples circadian rhythms twice a year is absolute bullshit. there is ZERO need for this. there was never a need for this.
the sun is going to be up x hours per day every day. it doesn't matter what the clocks say.
i prefer standard time but i guess i dont care if you go for standard time, daylight savings time, or split the difference. just pick one and stick with it.
How about as a citizenry we simply keep our clocks where they are. We keep obeying then like retards.
LAUGH OUT LOUD
SUNLIGHT PROTECTION?
Perhaps stop BLANKETING the sky w verify cal and horizontal clouds at the high points in early morning and late evening causing the sky to be darkened hours before it should and causing cloudy dark days and days on end….