How well you remember also depends on your age. Did you dial via rotary or keypad? Rotary you really have it baked in, how many mis-spins to get a number dialed on rotary. π€£π΅βπ«
Rage-dialing a rotary phone just didn't have the same satisfaction of banging those old-school industrial-strength (indestructible short of a ball peen hammer) phone buttons....
So, Big bell had to supply the phones. Free then rent or something weird like that. They did not want have to replace broken equipment. Hence the indestructible phone that Nokia took to an art form.
Yep, I knew about this. I remember when it became a Thing that you could actually buy the phones, and that's when the great cheapening/loss of indestructibility occurred. I want to say this was mid to late 80s?
Nah, mid-late 80s I remember we got new phones and they weren't so solid. The push buttons then went to ones that only pushed a little ways next. Sucked.
I had rotary, and then push button rotary. Parents bought a new phone but didnt want to pay for dial tone. LMAO!
My kids always asked "why do you say hello when you can see who it is on your phone?' - Had to tell them in the old days there were party lines and no way of knowing who was calling until you said "Hello" to know the connection went through. I follow that up with "I had to travel through snow and bad weather to a place called a library and use something called the Dewey Decimal system to do homework. Now you can ask Siri to find anything (entirety of human knowledge) and do yours!"
Whaaat? (Did you really downvote me instead of just disagreeing btw? Not that I care, just curious.)
Anyway, did you not comprehend the comic? Making a password hard to remember/type by requiring stuff like weird combinations leads to one thing - people writing their passwords down.
Whereas a long easy-to-remember passphrase is a) almost impossible to guess, b) doesn't need written down, and c) has a far longer time for a computer (which you claim has "nothing to do with it") to crack by brute force.
Edit: Well it can lead to other things. Like using "use securely generated password" and letting the browser remember it so if you let someone use your computer (assuming you don't set up their own account etc) they can get into everything....
Edit 2: Basically a really secure password strategy would be no restrictions on characters etc but a minimum length. Then users could do something like use a standard phrase or three (say, one they use for only most-secure sites like their banking, another for the next tier, and a third for whatever garbage/everything else) and substitute something like the site name in one spot in the phrase. No-one would ever have to write anything down, just remember their few key phrases. If one happened to leak, then change that relevant batch of passwords with a new phrase just in case someone sees what they are doing.
Jumped out at me because 2 days ago my wife asked how she could get the number of someone I hadnβt had much of any contact with for 40 yearsβ¦.. I was able to just tell her the #β¦ and that same day someone asked for my wifeβs numberβ¦ π€π€π΅βπ«π€π₯΄
Like a year ago I was thinking about an old friend I used to play AD&D with in the 90s. No idea why but his house phone number just popped into my head. The number had an easy to remember cadence to it.
Moi. Rotary and then push button wall phone. We even shared a party line when we first got it when we moved in to save money. As kids we used to listen in to the other person who spent hours on there.
Also had a party line when I was about five. My mom hated it because she could almost never use it. I might be mis-remembering this, but I believe she'd dial O and ask the operator to tell the other party to get off. Not sure about this one though.
My grandma lived in the country, compared to our small town of 300 just 5 miles away, and had a party line, vaguely remember there being others on the line at the same time when she would pick up the phone.
My best friend in HS had a party line. The people they shared it with were Jehovah's Witnesses, and they have to "witness" so many people a day, so getting thru was often problematic. Fucking ridiculous
My fax is my childhood phone number, still going since 1950 or thereabouts. It was our house phone all that time. Started as a party line, but then my mother got secret clearance, and she was given a private phone number. So our neighbors couldn't listen in, I guess.
I remember the first phone call I ever made. I called my friend Dan in kindergarten. His mom kept saying hello and I stood there completely silent. My mom was standing next to me and kept asking if anyone had answered. I said yes, but I still just stood there.
mid 60s in northern WI we didn't even have a rotary yet. operator would ask....number please (yes she really said this). the only # i remember is my friend's #18
I can remember mine because the last four are the same digits as the last four of my SS #, but in a different order. It was a real bitch trying to my SS vs my phone number.
And passwords? I just add an extra character. What that was, I dunno.
Rotary dialer here - can remember the ph number my grandparents had and can also remember the phone numbers of 2 of our childhood homes. These days I keep all of my passwords in my notes app, in a desktop folder, and in an email document. π€£ π€ͺ
How well you remember also depends on your age. Did you dial via rotary or keypad? Rotary you really have it baked in, how many mis-spins to get a number dialed on rotary. π€£π΅βπ«
Haha so true hated that π€£ - rotary here then we upgraded to push button - wohoo good ole days (:
Louis if you have 7, 8, 9, or 0 in your phone; I ain't dialing. Ain't no body got time for spinning a 9!
HAHAHAHA - SO true. I can remember all kinds of stuff from 50 years ago, but if you ask my why I walked into the kitchen 5 minute ago, I'm at a loss.
β¦ππ on the daily
I'm like that but I've always been like that so....
π but can u spin a 0 ha!
Rage-dialing a rotary phone just didn't have the same satisfaction of banging those old-school industrial-strength (indestructible short of a ball peen hammer) phone buttons....
So, Big bell had to supply the phones. Free then rent or something weird like that. They did not want have to replace broken equipment. Hence the indestructible phone that Nokia took to an art form.
Yep, I knew about this. I remember when it became a Thing that you could actually buy the phones, and that's when the great cheapening/loss of indestructibility occurred. I want to say this was mid to late 80s?
Cordless kind of made it happen. Oh, 800 Hmz but the 2.4 Ghz could walk half way down the block. So cool.
Nah, mid-late 80s I remember we got new phones and they weren't so solid. The push buttons then went to ones that only pushed a little ways next. Sucked.
I had rotary, and then push button rotary. Parents bought a new phone but didnt want to pay for dial tone. LMAO!
My kids always asked "why do you say hello when you can see who it is on your phone?' - Had to tell them in the old days there were party lines and no way of knowing who was calling until you said "Hello" to know the connection went through. I follow that up with "I had to travel through snow and bad weather to a place called a library and use something called the Dewey Decimal system to do homework. Now you can ask Siri to find anything (entirety of human knowledge) and do yours!"
"didn't want to pay for dial tone"
That is PEAK "ok boomer"
Well, a password you can remember is a security risk anyway
Nope. Computers don't care about stupid stuff like capital/lowercase/symbols etc.
https://xkcd.com/936/
Has nothing to do with "computers".
Whaaat? (Did you really downvote me instead of just disagreeing btw? Not that I care, just curious.)
Anyway, did you not comprehend the comic? Making a password hard to remember/type by requiring stuff like weird combinations leads to one thing - people writing their passwords down.
Whereas a long easy-to-remember passphrase is a) almost impossible to guess, b) doesn't need written down, and c) has a far longer time for a computer (which you claim has "nothing to do with it") to crack by brute force.
Edit: Well it can lead to other things. Like using "use securely generated password" and letting the browser remember it so if you let someone use your computer (assuming you don't set up their own account etc) they can get into everything....
Edit 2: Basically a really secure password strategy would be no restrictions on characters etc but a minimum length. Then users could do something like use a standard phrase or three (say, one they use for only most-secure sites like their banking, another for the next tier, and a third for whatever garbage/everything else) and substitute something like the site name in one spot in the phrase. No-one would ever have to write anything down, just remember their few key phrases. If one happened to leak, then change that relevant batch of passwords with a new phrase just in case someone sees what they are doing.
Jumped out at me because 2 days ago my wife asked how she could get the number of someone I hadnβt had much of any contact with for 40 yearsβ¦.. I was able to just tell her the #β¦ and that same day someone asked for my wifeβs numberβ¦ π€π€π΅βπ«π€π₯΄
Like a year ago I was thinking about an old friend I used to play AD&D with in the 90s. No idea why but his house phone number just popped into my head. The number had an easy to remember cadence to it.
Moi. Rotary and then push button wall phone. We even shared a party line when we first got it when we moved in to save money. As kids we used to listen in to the other person who spent hours on there.
Also had a party line when I was about five. My mom hated it because she could almost never use it. I might be mis-remembering this, but I believe she'd dial O and ask the operator to tell the other party to get off. Not sure about this one though.
Same memory - or you could angrily tap the phone til they got off...or interrupt...or listen in...kids had fun in the olden days!
My grandma lived in the country, compared to our small town of 300 just 5 miles away, and had a party line, vaguely remember there being others on the line at the same time when she would pick up the phone.
My best friend in HS had a party line. The people they shared it with were Jehovah's Witnesses, and they have to "witness" so many people a day, so getting thru was often problematic. Fucking ridiculous
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How is this q related???
Just take a second to relax. Remember, this community is spread between older and younger. It kinda fun to laugh and here and there.
Amen kek plus Seniority rules (:
It is but the focus is Q/related not general fun/games....
You're right. This should go on Truth Social.
Done πΈπ (:
Because Queers ask how this is Q related. :)
We got pranked a lot when I was a kid as my house phone was 452 SHIT. hard to forget. And no, that number is no longer in the family π
We have a ignorant picture of my Grandfathers first company truck. 2 digit phone number.
Rotary & those 15' slinky cords kek !
Yes ! Ha ours we figured w 5 kids stretched all way down basement stairs - until Dad pushed click bar from kitchen - we had time limits π
The ones that always got coiled up the wrong way and you could never figure out how to uncoil it. Could have used some Internet tips back then.
Yep ! π¬
I had little rotating things on the handset that the cord plugged into. Ahhhh, technology.
I remember those. Always seemed like they would break though.
My fax is my childhood phone number, still going since 1950 or thereabouts. It was our house phone all that time. Started as a party line, but then my mother got secret clearance, and she was given a private phone number. So our neighbors couldn't listen in, I guess.
I can't remember my passwords OR my phone number LOLOLOL
Le sigh
If that's the case then they should probably just use their childhood phone number for their password.
Yep.
Yep address and phone number. I moved a gazillion times in my 20βs but still remember π
I remember the first phone call I ever made. I called my friend Dan in kindergarten. His mom kept saying hello and I stood there completely silent. My mom was standing next to me and kept asking if anyone had answered. I said yes, but I still just stood there.
I can identify but canβt figure out what this is doing on this board.
mid 60s in northern WI we didn't even have a rotary yet. operator would ask....number please (yes she really said this). the only # i remember is my friend's #18
Facebook level meme. I mean⦠OMG LOL THAT IS SO ME!!!
Also, shout out if the number 867-5309 means anything to you.
404-474.....
I can remember mine because the last four are the same digits as the last four of my SS #, but in a different order. It was a real bitch trying to my SS vs my phone number.
And passwords? I just add an extra character. What that was, I dunno.
Numbers were easier back then. The number of my local police station was 1 and my grandmother's number was 87.
Also also, like Ma Bell I got ill communication
I don't remember my childhood number but I do still remember my middle school friend's number lol.
Rotary dialer here - can remember the ph number my grandparents had and can also remember the phone numbers of 2 of our childhood homes. These days I keep all of my passwords in my notes app, in a desktop folder, and in an email document. π€£ π€ͺ
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