Seriously guys, I'm really getting sick of this. Yes, it's important to learn how to research, but remember when they invented the calculator and the teacher kept telling you how important it was to learn to do it on paper, and yet...there's a fucking calculator?
This place is our calculator. Nobody is going to take anyone else's words at face value, true. And we shouldn't. But the truth is not everyone knows what everyone else knows and we're not going to learn what everyone knows if we keep sticking our noses in the air and saying "look it up yourself."
You looked it up apparently, do us all a favor and show us where you looked. It will help get us all where we need to be a hell of a lot faster.
Yeah, sauce required.
But there are a lot who come in and ask for all kind.of details. In turn they should go research it themselves rather than badger the person who posted or anyone else.
Most of the time someone gets that reply for that reason. They ask for detaisl that have not been found/researched. And instead of contributing they get pussy at the thought of habing to do.it themselves.
I understand we all place our feet on the road at different times and places.
I'm extremely tolerant of beginners....but for those who say
"what does it say" because they're too lazy to read an article I will refer them to the article.
2 hour video?...I want a time marker for the spot the relevant info is at in the video.
24 page document? Point to the page[s] the info can be found on.
Agreed wholeheartedly that people need to actually USE the info people have, and get to work if someone doesn't know the answer to something, but when someone claims they DO have the answer to something, and refuses to provide a fellow pede with the info, give me a break. We can do better than that.
Oooooh look some newfag trying to tell me how to Q.
Fuck off. You're apparently too fucking new to KNOW that the WHOLE Q THING IS...
SPECIFICALLY...
RESEARCH IT YOURSELF!
That is why Q posts are CODED...
FOR ABSOLUTE FUCK SAKE YOU POSEUR.
The ENTIRE FUCKING POINT IS... YOU DO NOT GET FED ONE PERSON'S PROPAGANDA WHEN YOU RESEARCH IT YOUR FUCKING SELF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bruh,
Chill
You aren't getting fed 1 person's propaganda. They ask you for proof of X and you provide that proof. Sometimes you could find a great article that summarizes your research in a dig. The point of research it yourself is not to hide that article (or rather, leave it hidden), but to bring it to people's attention.
If people decide to believe it at face value, that's their own choice, if they decide they want to dig more into it, that is also their choice. Without knowledge of its existence, how could they dig. Must they dig for evidence in the same way you did to find it? Maybe you do it one way and they do it another way.
Maybe they're just lazy. In the end, it's not man's job to judge the heart, it is God's.
P.S. I neither updooted, nor downdooted (for reference), just trying to give you my .02
Reading the comments below, a lot of people are blaming laziness as the reason for people not wanting to do their own research.
I think the biggest issue is a lot of people are simply too busy and wore out by the end of the day. For myself, after I finish a long day at work, spend time with my family, do chores and so on. Most evenings I only get 15 -30mins max screen time. I sometimes only want a brief overview of the days happenings. I have no interest in watching a 2 hour video, no matter what the topic
And I have no interest in rolling it all up for you. Maybe hire a personal assistant, if you're so pre-occupied. Operative word being, "hire".
How you ask goes a long way. A polite request gets sauce from me way more than an impatient, ignorantly worded demand.
Or, as I recently encountered, someone making an authoritative statement that was completely wrong, got called on it, then get indignant that their ignorance was noticed and demanded proof they were wrong.
It's like WTF, man. This is basic shit you should know and NOT have to be this dumb over. Don't speak about shit unless your argument is watertight.
Right. If you end up being wrong about something, be an adult and happy you're enlightened now. I actually see quite a bit of contrition in this community in those circumstances. As well, there are some egotists who refuse to be wrong and hopefully they grow out of that someday. The most important things are getting the facts straight and getting it out there in a constructive way, IMO
agreed. makes a big difference.
Yeah but seriously some people are too fucking lazy to do the most basic search. Talked about a video by an English Guy about 9/11 and 7/7 say his name the name of the video still get loads of requests for 'the link' Even fucking google brings it up on its first page.
Yup, this is big pet peeve of mine too. If I can spend 10 seconds on a Google search, then so the fuck can you.
also true.
I have no problem helping new pedes out. However, when that same pede continually wants information handed to them because they're too lazy to do any of their own legwork, it gets old fast...
Seriously. I don't get bent out of shape about much, but I get so damn tired of a FEW folks coming on this board and demanding to know the difference between "democracy" and a "Constitutional Republic." A simple search and scan of literally ANY search engine's results will provide you (within 30-60 seconds) a summary of that difference that's easy enough for any 6th grader to understand.
Then again, that's a big part of the problem -- few 6th graders, and middle/high schoolers, and even college students, have been deprived of a decent social studies/civics foundation of knowledge in their K-16 academic lives.
Absolutely. Just like looking up a word. These people today have never been told to look up definitions or meanings of words. My daughter in middle school no longer asks me what a word means because she knows I'll tell her to look it up. So now, she just looks it up. The educational system today is geared to dumb our children down and to teach them wokeness. All my daughter's teachers have been told flat out that she is there for a real education and not some diversity bs or crt or wokeness... So far so good...
You are so spot-on....and an awesome, hold-the-line parent, to boot! Our sons are 27 and 25 now, and while they weren't indoctrinated quite as "hard" as what you and your family are facing these days...it was bad enough 10-15 years ago, and we still worry about who "gets to them" out in the real world. My wife and I tried our best, and prayed our way through those developmental years....we have to leave 'em both in God's hands now. :)
Thank you... Cheers Anon... ☕☕☕
How about posters who openly state I'm too lazy to look it up? I've seen that, too.
KEKEK...
I always think, "Who chews your food for you?" but then i try to be nice.
Keking my as off... 🤣🤣🤣
Honesty isn't a bad thing
if too lazy, understandable. What if they don't know?
Maybe if you recognize the name asking over and over, have a discussion with them, teaching the man to fish, so he's not continuously begging you for fish.
As I said, I have no problem helping new pedes out and have done so quite recently... Cheers Anon... ☕☕☕
Right on Brother/Sister. Agreed 💯
I don't always take the time to source my comments, but when it's important enough, I strive to at least give something. The sources are the information. Me saying shit is just me saying shit. No one should believe me. I can't possibly tell anyone the Truth, because I have no idea what it is. "Believing" someone is foolish, and no one should ever expect someone to believe them.
All I ask of other people is what I demand of myself. That is to really listen, and engage in debate for the purpose of finding the Truth, and not for proving ourselves "right".
This is a search for the path out of The Matrix, while living inside it. It is no mean endeavor. The more people we can take along that path out, the better off We The People will be. Sources are what will accomplish that task. Keeping in mind our real purpose helps me to be patient, and provide sources when asked. YMMV, but I suggest it is a good thing to keep in mind.
This deserves waaaaaay more updoots.
"This is a search for the path out of The Matrix,"
That's a good analogy, almost like some people are saying, research your own red pill. I've spent a good part of the last 8+ years doing much of my own research. It would definitely be difficult to find everything I've seen over that period of time, but I know where I've looked, someone else would not know. Probably better if I were to assist in the search to some extent. Plus a lot of my searching came from someone else saying look over here.
I agree with all of your post except this:
It was a statement of exactly what we are doing, it wasn't an analogy.
We live in a world were what we see, what we think, what we feel, our very beliefs are created for us. We each get our beliefs from different sources, but all of those sources have the same controller. We fight each other because we believe we are at odds, but those odds are purposefully created to be at odds, sent to different sub-populations. Everyone is Controlled Opposition.
All of our schools have been run by the same source for over a century (really much longer, but its easy to start there). All of our books have been published by the same source. All of the people "exposing the truth" that are popular (Alex Jones, etc.) are also, controlled by the same source. All of our formal religions all have the same source, even if they didn't necessarily start that way. All science is controlled, funded, taught and published by the same source. All controlled, all at odds, all run by the same puppeteers.
One of our primary beliefs (programs) is that "there's no such thing as a conspiracy." 99% of the population (pre-Q) believes it. The 1% that don't are "conspiracy theorists," bottom feeders, the worst sort of person that exists. When someone tries to expose the truth, that program comes out (Agent Smith) and forces the exposure into submission with shame and loathing for both the evidence and the presenter. "Conspiracy Theorist" is a self correcting mechanism of The Matrix, put into place to keep the population from seeing the walls that contain them,
There are many other such programs and mechanism ("heretic", "anti-Semitic", e.g.) that prevent people from seeing the Glitches in The Matrix, all designed to control what we see and believe, control what we tell each other, keeping it all running smoothly.
There are multiple levels of The Matrix, and many of those that believe they are "awake" have only moved past the first veil, still not ready to see the next one.
All sides get their beliefs from the same source. The entire planet is nothing but a group of programmed puppets, dancing to a single tune.
Q has shifted the 1% to the.... I have no idea, 50% by now? But like I said, most of those are still completely oblivious to the larger scope of The Matrix. They are only seeing that there is fuckery at the top, the extent in both the mindspace and temporal dimension (going back eons), is still completely obscured.
I agree with OP to an extent. The other side of the argument is that the person posting things should provide a link to their sources. If it is just their opinion or theory, they should also clearly state that.
Flairs are great for just that!
There are numerous reasons for someone giving the above statement as a response. My best advice to you for when you receive that "look it up yourself" response is this: Do not judge the intentions of the person giving that response.
Couple of examples:
Some topics are complex, nuanced, vague, and subjective, and are clouded by conflicting information from various sources. Sometimes, it truly is better to research on your own, and judge numerous sources for yourself.
Some topics are very time consuming to research, and sources are not always readily available- or worse, no longer available.
Other times, a topic may be common knowledge to most people, and information readily available to explain the subject matter is easily obtained with little effort. A simple "look it up yourself" response can sometimes be given in hopes that the recipient will look it up, and perhaps learn details that are significant, but simply too time consuming to post in a reply. People have different amounts of time to spend conversing on the internet, and real life can interrupt conversations at any time.
And sometimes people just give a "look it up yourself" response to be an ass- for whatever reason suits them, sometimes justified, sometimes not.
But please, never assume that a "look it up yourself" response is always intended in a negative, or demeaning way.
More often than not, the person giving that response has a perfectly valid, and benign reason for requesting that you "look it up yourself." Don't be afraid to do the math by hand, instead of using the calculator.
Yes, 100%. All of this.
"Look it up" is THE MOST NOBLE thing you can say to someone.
You are saying you value their own mind and critical thinking skills.
Instead of filling their mind with YOUR opinions, you are allowing them the opportunity to research the subject for themselves without tainting it. Such wonder! Then we can reconvene and have a discussion that will truly allow for a difference of opinion and hopefully better understandings for both as we now uncover the truth, probably somewhere in the middle, from our different angles.
Amen brother!
False. "This is what I think and this is why I think so, here's what I read that made me think this way. Don't take my word for it" is the most noble thing you can say to someone.
Ask yourself honestly, why are you even on this site? To gossip? I hope not. To brag that you know more than others and scoff at their ignorance? Again, I hope not. Hopefully the reason you're here is the reason most of us are here: to save humanity.
For example: do you think for a second that if I wanted to know the truth about vaccine injuries and everyone on here just said "look it up" that I would have known that the VAERS site even existed? Fuck no. But once I knew it did, did I go there and consume what it had? Yeah. I did. So thank you to whomever it was who brought up VAERS because if not, I would have been relying on bogus communist search engines to help me and I would have been just as lost as all the normies out there.
Tell people what you've learned, tell them where you learned it. It's fucking simple.
Yeah if I was on Facebook arguing with a lib (it’s been years) I would tell them to look it up because they aren’t worth my time. Fellow people looking for the truth is a different story. If you don’t feel like showing a fellow pede where to go to find something STFU
This raises a good point. Some people like to be contrarians, or like a kid who just asks why to ask why (or glowies/paid shills could be doing it). If so, ignore their question.
If they are sincere, they should ask with humility and sincerity. We should help those people.
It’s like an etiquette
This. I help if it's a genuine need/question. Problem is you get some talking out their ass and then get indignantly butthurt when corrected and demand, not ask, that you give proof. Fuck those people. I self educated and so can they.
What you said!!!
I love people who love sharing their knowledge and sending me links to articles!!! Thank you all so much!
One Anon just pointed me in direction of Aaron Swartz documentary. I so appreciated that. Also sometimes I don’t know acronyms that Anons use.
I highly value the work ethic and determination shown by those who do the deep digging and I'm so grateful for their shared bounty (the results of those deep digs).
I also know there are some lazy folks out there who want things handed to them on a platter.
BUT...
I think often times what some are requesting is not to be spoon fed, but rather to be given some direction in terms of reliable source material for mining their own research and perhaps some sensible, relevant search terms to begin the process.
I've been here for bit now and I still encounter new research/topics posted every day that I had no idea about. Sometimes if there isn't enough context around the post, it's tough to know where to dig for the best introductory results. It's hard not to get sucked in by misinformation in these cases.
For those willing to really get their hands dirty while digging, the rewards are beyond valuable (freedom & power)! Big thanks to all who help out along the journey to knowing.
I understand both sides of this. I fully admit I am not a professional digger. I greatly respect and appreciate those who can and are kind enough to provide some sources to point me in the right direction.
As I have been trying to red pill my normie friends, family, and just about anyone I run into, the most common response after not seeing that on MSM, is that they don't see that on Google. Most people just don't know how or where to look. Perhaps we should have another permanent sidebar sticky "for newbies " giving suggestions on how / where to begin. Even something as simple as telling the people I've spoken to not to use Google but to try a different search engine, like Brave, for example, has really opened their eyes and made them more curious.
Just my two cents worth. WWG1WGA
Because then we end up right back where we are again, too many people rely on others for answers.
The whole teach a man to fish story.
Many answers are readily available with little searching, meaning effort.
How many people even take the time to learn he basics for the subject of this site, Q/Great Awakening? How many know there's resource links on the sidebar?
Stop depending on others to provide answers and seek your own, many times the answers given may not be correct. Even if they are, you should still verify they are correct before taking them as truth.
No man is an island. All the research you think you've done on your own was done by someone else and you just accessed it. There's nothing wrong with showing people where you found things. It's true that you can lead a horse to water but can't make it drink, but so many of us complain so much about how hard it is to get through to the normies, and here we have copious amounts of people willing to learn, but you're too busy or stuck up to show them where the water is. I believe it's your duty to show people where the water is. Why the hell else would you be on a site like this if not to learn and/or teach? Why have a site like this at all if not for that? Have you even thought about that?
Of all the times Q posted “We are here to Help”, do you think he meant just the Q team or all digital solders? I get the attitude of look it up yourself, but also remember that a lot of people here are still waking up from a slumber of being spoon fed information by all means of communication.
Give a man a fish / Teach a man to fish….. If they want to cut bait, let them and ignore.
For the consumers a good place to start is by searching for
Q alerts
Should come up on most search engines
Search this board (works on pc). You will find most answers you seek with these 2 tools.
Next try and find good search engine that will dig deep. If you truly want to know,
Start your journey, help someone else.
Agreed let the rope great again
I think the "don't be lazy, look it up yourself" is passive-aggression. Or maybe just snotty.
100%
The only problem I see with this is we NEED people to do their research. They NEED to learn critical thinking and research skills. If not what difference ate we than the CNN calcilulattor?
IMO the " look it up yourself " responses are used to encourage people to fill in for the deficiencies they see themselves, and encourage people not to be so entitled and shift burden etc.
BUT it seems to often be misused as a lazy way of posting things people haven't researched or dug into themselves at all ( imo - a shill tactic for sidetracking )
don't fall into the same lazy habits the mainstream media has, simply trying to promote anything that supports your own views without information behind it.
IMO the " look it up yourself " responses are used to encourage people to fill in for the deficiencies they see themselves, and encourage people not to be so entitled and shift burden etc.
BUT it seems to often be misused as a lazy way of posting things people haven't researched or dug into themselves at all ( imo - a shill tactic for sidetracking )
don't fall into the same lazy habits the mainstream media has, simply trying to promote anything that supports your own views without information behind it.
Cheers, agreed
Amen. Sometimes I have no idea where to look and do not have hours to look anyway. I still want the truth though.
10 updoots!
100% accurate.
Exactly, don't make me recreate the wheel just to get up to speed with YOUR research so I can then take the ball and run with it. Because ain't nobody got time for that!
Also, if we are the news ... then act like it. Report and source.
I fully agree. The emphasis on the board should be information sharing, not proctoring. The learning of research skills should occur at home. Nothing more frustrating than an exchange that consists of
"Do you mind explaining what you mean?"
"Go sit in front of this 2-hour video."
Any point can be explained in a few sentences. If you can't do this, you are not in command of the subject. If they need more information, they can ask, and you can mention what subjects to look up. I've never had a problem being generous with information. What would be the point of being miserly? Johannes Kepler turns to Tycho Brahe and asks "Do you mind if I consult your observational data on the motion of the planets?" And Brahe (in the spirit of some on this page) replies, "Screw you. Make your own measurements."
To me, you give someone the TL;DR but you show them where you got your info so they can get into it more heavily on their own should they desire. Again, this place is like a calculator. We can use it to get going in the right directions faster and arrive at solid conclusions sooner, which helps everyone.
I agree, we need to be responsible/able to back up our research. can tell many we're brought up on common core, aren't used to dealing in facts.
What authority? One random guy posting on GAW owns another's view?
What the OP is asking about is not a difficult request. State your sources if you have intel. When someone asks how you know X, you know X already, so of course it's obvious to you. They don't know X, and maybe because they don't know X, they don't what questions they need answer to learn what X really is, especially with fake news EVERYWHERE.
I feel as if that was unclear, let me elaborate. I work in a job with certain "mundane" tasks, but they aren't readily available to a new worker. The senior workers (if they want good new people) have to train them what to look for continuously. It's not because the new people are dumb. It is because the process is almost always the same, yet always small changes. So you can't repeat exactly each job. You have to know the inner workings.
The same is true here. Many of us (myself included) are not "professional" diggers. I personally try to read a lot of stuff before coming to a conclusion, but I usually track with a good gut feeling on most things. I felt the RU UA conflict was BS day 1, COVID after the 1st week, etc. I try not to ask "stupid" questions, but many people are not trusting of their gut, they don't have time at work to read a bunch of random articles while raising a family or whatever.
Like Steven Crowder's rant at UMass (found on YT), if there's one thing we should all take away from his rant at the SJW, is that we shouldn't be an asshole our whole life.
Learn to help. As my chief in the Navy once said, "if you can't explain it to a 5 year old, you don't know what you're talking about." Words of wisdom.