Why does an infant with no teeth need fluoride?
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I've been calling out fluoride contaminated infant water from the rooftops for YEARS. How the fuck any parent would buy this for their child and not ask this question is fucking beyond me!
PS: This ALONE could explain the insanity of the modern world. Add to that overprescribing of drugs to children, gmo foods, 70-something vaccines before adulthood.... honestly it's a fucking miracle any of us managed to escape this shit and are still fairly normal.
Go directly to Gulag. Do not pass frens. Do not collect stimulus.
I'm so glad people are awake to this these days. 15 years ago, normie-ass conservatives scoffed at anyone making a stand against GMO, fluoride, etc. They still do, with Dennis Prager doing videos by that former Greenpeace guy extolling GMOs. He's a meteorologist, not a bioengineer. Just because he says global warming is a fraud doesn't make him an expert on GMOs.
Natural will hopefully become the new normal. Hope and pray.
"You're better than normal, you're abnormal!"
I was telling my son's dentist that if fluoride works at all to harden teeth, it only works topically, ie. in toothpaste on the tooth surface.
Systemic fluoride in drinking water only does harm.
She couldn't really argue with that.
I think fluoride may damage teeth in any case.
When I was a kid the dentist told my parents that the fluorosis on my teeth was "cavities" and had them filled. I only learned later in life what fluorosis looks like.
all healthcare is a racket
Most things "modern" are a total money grubbing grifts. College, degrees, "certificates", licenses for trade, "masters" of trades, etc....
Severe fluorosis can pit teeth and totally jack up the enamel to the point that some teeth have to be restored. In addition, it can make them very brittle. One of the things I am concerned with patients that have fluorosis is the state of their bone health. If it makes teeth brittle, it can make bones brittle.
Since I have stopped using fluoride toothpastes my teeth have improved.
Wow that's interesting! What do you use instead?
I'm guessing baking soda or non-fluoride toothpaste.
I use Tom's and only buy it when it's on sale.
Tom's of Maine was bought out by Colgate over 20 years ago. They slowly have cheapened the raw ingredients in their products. It is not the same company. You are basically paying for a name.
Baking soda is great. It is very low on the abrasion scale and it neutralizes acids - which are the problem. doTerra essential oils makes a toothpaste that is awesome. It has a calcium mineral complex that is closely related to natural tooth minerals in addition to some essential oils formulated for oral health - not toxic fluoride. The key to using a product like this is to clean teeth first with baking soda and then apply a very small amount to the teeth and spit out the excess. Do not rinse the toothpaste off the teeth - good to do at bedtime. It takes about 20 - 30 minutes for teeth to take up minerals. So it does no good to rinse the stuff down the drain. Using just a tiny amount like medicine for your teeth will go a long way.
I'm basically paying for a non-fluoride toothpaste made without artificial colors, flavors, and preservatives.
Colgate bought them so they could stop Tom's from lobbying against their production methods, petrochemicals, etc. They also have the side benefit of using the name to sell fluoride toothpastes to people who forgot why they originally chose the brand in the first place. The original owners still work there and the factory in Sanford, Maine still produces the products it did before the acquisition.
Canadian plant produces the fluoride toothpaste and some of the newer product lines, and their toothbrushes are made in Switzerland.
I just checked the ingredients of doTERRA On Guard Natural Whitening Toothpaste-
Glycerin, Water (Aqua), Hydrated Silica, Calcium Carbonate, Xylitol, Hydroxyapatite, Cellulose Gum, Mentha piperita (Peppermint) Oil, Citrus sinensis (Wild Orange) Peel Oil, Eugenia caryophyllus (Clove) Bud Oil, Cinnamomum zeylanicum (Cinnamon) Leaf Oil, Cinnamomum zeylanicum (Cinnamon) Bark Oil, Eucalyptus globulus (Eucalyptus) Leaf Oil, Rosmarinus officinalis (Rosemary) Leaf Oil, Stevia rebaudiana (Stevia) Leaf Extract, Gaultheria procumbens (Wintergreen) Leaf Oil, Commiphora myrrha (Myrrh) Oil, Sodium Lauroyl Sarcosinate, Xanthan Gum.
Doesn't look much different than Tom's, but Tom's wouldn't use the Sodium Lauroyl Sarcosinate and it's much more expensive. $12.67 a tube is too much for me.
https://www.doterra.com/US/en/p/doterra-on-guard-natural-whitening-toothpaste
I get Tom's when it's on sale at Bed Bath and Beyond. I'll buy 2-3 tubes and get an additional $5 off with one of my wife's coupons. Ends up being as cheap as regular toothpaste for me.
What the big draw in favor of the doTerra product is the hydroxyapatite. That is a calcium mineral compound similar to what is found in the body's calcified structures - like a tooth. This is important for tooth remineralization if used properly. This is why I recommend not spitting the product out, but using it as a treatment after brushing with baking soda. So, for people that may need a little help in this area due to enamel demineralization already on their teeth, this product could be helpful. There is research data in this area.
DoTerra's process for deriving this compound is patented and not the same as other more industrialized producers. I have done some study in this area due to the effects of this compound on dental structures versus fluoride. There are very few products available for consumers to purchase that have this compound and especially in a more biofriendly form. Arm and Hammer used to sell a toothpaste with this compound and stopped selling it after two rollouts. Part of the problem was that consumers just didn't understand the difference between the "liquid calcium" product and the rest of the toothpaste offerings available at the store. They did not really market the product very well and it did not sell. The General Chemical Company produces a product called MI Paste that has this compound in it - but it is only available through dental offices if I remember correctly and it is about $30 for a small tube. However, for people with serious demineralized enamel, it can do some amazing things if used as a treatment. But, I would not recommend this for the average person just wanting to protect their teeth and it is not a product derived from more natural sourcing like doTerra or the Tom's. Calcium hydroxyapatite is something Tom's does not have.
The Sarcosinate is a more natural detergent and foaming agent. Beyond that attribute, that is where the similarity to SLS ends. It is derived from natural sources like coconut and is a milder and non toxic cleanser. As far as the rest of the ingredients, the essential oils are the difference. DoTerra is one of the best, if not the best, producers of essential oils in the world. So, continue to use the Tom's if you prefer and if you like it. But, know the differences between the two products. In this case, you get what you pay for.
You sound like a DoTerra salesperson. Kek.
I buy Tom's of Maine toothpaste too. I live in Japan and up until 20 years ago, Japan used to not allow fluoride in toothpaste, but now it all has it. I order Thom's online. I used to really like the Infowars Super Blue toothpaste with colloidal silver, but that's gone.
They have lots of fluoride free toothpastes.
Natural toothpaste with xylitol, baking soda and plant extracts.
Mine too! I switched to Jason's Whitening Paste. My teeth have never looked better!
And even if it is beneficial to teeth, there wouldn't be any real benefits until the child starts getting permanent teeth.
The permanent teeth are presumably present in the jaw and face bones as tooth buds before they grow, but I think fluoride just harms them if it's taken systemically, just as it weakens bones.
If fluoride hardens permanent teeth then it will be only as a topical application and as you say, only any use after those teeth appear.
If fluoride is penetrating the gums to impact teeth that have not broken through the surface, that inherently shows a potentially negative impact in any amount.
I'm not all on board with the fluoride bad discussion, but it is bad to consume and that's not contested.
There are two ways in which fluoride impacts a tooth - before it erupts, and after. During tooth development, rather than a calcium ion being incorporated into the mineralization of dental structures, a fluoride ion replaces it instead. Fluorine is a very greedy element and it is taken up more readily than the calcium. Therefore, the fluoride becomes part of the actual tooth structure and is intrinsic to the tooth. This is where fluorosis takes place and it is permanent.
The formation of dental structures takes place inside the actual jaw bone and the fluoride gets there systemically. The whole process actually starts before birth - so what a mother takes in also has an impact on this process for a developing baby. Tooth development continues after birth till around the average age of 12. After the tooth structure is complete and a tooth erupts, the only impact fluoride can have on a tooth is topically in the mouth as the enamel is exposed to the oral environment. The fluoride is only able to interact with the enamel surface and not internally within the tooth. Whatever mineralization a tooth possesses before it erupts, is the maximum mineralization the tooth with have. This is why most of the damage that people deal with on their teeth was a process that started in childhood when they could care less about taking care of them. It is basically a downhill process.
Fluoride also is taken up into the bones as well - but no one wants to talk about that. I heard from some older orthopedic surgeons that had been around long enough to notice the changes in their patients that may or may not have been exposed to all the water fluoridation when younger. They told me that they did notice the difference in bone structure and that it was more brittle. They said they had to adjust their techniques to account for these changes when doing procedures like hip and knee replacements. This is an area that some of the younger surgeons may not be as acutely aware of since the bulk of their patients now have all been exposed to fluoridated water. In addition, fluoride does some really nasty things to thyroid function and is not good for gut or brain health. Overall, fluoride is a poison and should not be taken internally.
When I was in grade school in the 80s we did a thing called swish once a week. We had to swish with fluoride for 30 seconds and don’t swallow it!! So I think your theory makes sense. I was raised on well water so I didn’t grow up drinking the city water.
I hated that so much. In the little white cup. So messed up.
The study that they use to prove fluoride efficacy goes something like this:
Select a poverty-stricken community. Introduce a dental hygiene and supply program alonside fluoride treatments.
100% credit fluoride for the reduction in cavities.
Wish that I were kidding about this being the way that they pushed industrial waste into our water supply.
I never considered epidemiological studies as being real science. It is basically someone's opinion as to why one group is different from another with no hard data to back up the assumptions. You are correct in that an entire public health policy that has led to the poisoning of millions of people was based upon these type of assumptions and was motivated by huge financial interests. It was all a lie.
Fuck their brains ASAP, make more libtards.
It stunts pineal gland development. It works when the mom is dosed during pregnancy as well. Folks never go down a spiritual path so don't require such effort to remediate later in life. And,...it's really really cheep!
Why does an Infant need "special spring water"?
Now with 100% more adjectives.
In the movie 'Solyent Green' the plankton from which this 'manna' was said to be made from, was also sold to the public as being 'good' for everyone. Not told to the public was that Solyent Green was also produced from the remains of the dead and the imprisoned.
The Cabal is actually doing this now. There's no way of determining what is in the food bought from a grocery store. This is the risk taken when trusting a 'stranger'. What did your parents teach about this when you were a child?
Fluoride is considered poisonous to infants.
Correction: All humans
Fluoride is a neurotoxin
Gotta get that damn pineal gland under control before it causes problems!
The chief chemist U S national Cancer institute says.. fluoride causes more human cancer death and causes it faster than any other chemical.
Former president union of govt scientists at U S EPA says water fluoridation is the greatest case of scientific fraud this century if not all time.....
But...that was beforecovid and Pfizer posting over nine billion profit
In UK they NHS tell mums to feed newborns tap water in formulae but spring water...I wrote to them...still happening
Childhood cancers soaring
Nazis loved Flouride on the water.
They got it from the US.
I never understood this either. The pediatricians even prescribe fluoride when they find out you have reverse-osmosis filtered water. And this is before the babies even have teeth. They claim it's so that the teeth grows stronger, but flouride actually makes bones brittle. So i dont understand this either
Well we have reverse osmosis water and it doesn't remove fluoride, at least our filters don't. We thought they did for years until 2019. Now we use a gravity Fed filter to get rid of the fluoride after RO.
I was told RO removes flouride. It doesnt?
Yes, it does, but you need to change your filters as scheduled. Worst systems I've seen remove 93.5% of fluoride.
Oh interesting. So gravity filters don't require changing filters?
They do need changing. The main selling point of gravity filters is they don't require electricity.
Gravity filters have different properties. It depends on the manufacturer and what they're designed for.
Ah ok. So basically, something like a brita filter, but can be much larger for better filtering.
RO doesnt use power either but it wastes a lot of water, and yea, looks like it still leaves some fluoride in the water
Fluoride was a byproduct of atomic bomb production that leaked into the surrounding environment, which I believe killed a lot of livestock and caused a lot of other problems. It ended up in the water supply so the government brought in an “expert” to say it was safe to consume (sound familiar?). That’s pretty much where the lie started. Search for “The Manhattan Project” + “Fluoride” and research for yourselves.
Something else to point out is that many people flush pharmaceutical drugs down the toilet, either unused pills or through feces/urine. Water treatment facilities do not filter out any of them and they are in your water, albeit in very small quantities. I’m not claiming this is in any way detrimental to your health, but why risk it when you can easily filter it all out with a reverse osmosis system.
Not that what you are saying is not true, but the bulk of fluoride contaminating the environment came about much earlier than the atom bomb. Fluoride started out as an industrial byproduct of aluminum manufacturing in the early twentieth century. It was correctly classified as a toxic compound and pressure was being exerted on aluminum companies in the 1920s and 1930's to clean up the water supplies. These companies were dumping fluoride into the water by the tons unrestricted. Magically, through some bribed bogus epidemiological studies, arm twisting at the AMA, and the newly created department of US Public Health Service formed under FDR's new deal, almost overnight fluoride went from being a toxin slated to be removed from our nation's waterways to something good for health - all with no real scientific data to back it up. The toxic waste was now sold to the public as a means to prevent tooth decay. The cover story surrounding fluoride was already well under way by the time Manhattan took its turn at polluting the environment.
Look up the links concerning Alcoa Aluminum and its connections to FDR's administration. It the same old corruption dance we still see concerning corporate oligarchy. Most of the sodium fluoride sourcing today comes from fertilizer manufacturing. It was sold as a new and improved fluoride versus the older version derived from aluminum manufacturing - although the earlier form it is still available in some toothpastes like the original Crest.
Excellent post…thank you for clarifying.
You are most welcome fren. We all help each other better understand this crazy world we live in.
Since this thread has people asking about alternatives, I'll share what I use, and coincidentally, it was recommended by somebody on VOAT QRV.
I've been using it for years now, and it remineralizes bone as well as naturally whitens teeth. Very nice folks,too.
https://orawellness.com/shine/
Excellent product. Thanks for the link. Another company that uses a similar apatite compound is doTerra in their toothpaste. The key is allow enough time for the process. It takes about 20 to 30 minutes for enamel to take up minerals. A good time to use any product like this is before bed so it is less likely to be disturbed.
Auromere sells ayurvedic toothpastes, that work very well.
Gotta keep the pineal gland small and under developed.
What fucking springs have fluoride in them?
Injested Flouride, the artificial kind found in water, causes weakened bones and teeth known as "Flourosis". It also calcifies the Pineal Gland.
Both of these things are highly undesirable. You should begin by cutting out ALL Flouride: Toothpaste, ANY dental flouride at the dentist, use a filter on your drinking water that removes all toxins.
Flouride is a KNOWN poison. Quiz: Why do you think they put the warning on the toothpaste tubes to seek immediate medical attention if ingested?
...the more you know.
To dumb them down. Low IQ people are more easily led!
I grew up in a rural area... everyone had their own wells and natural springs... nobody within 50 miles had fluoride dumped in their water... there was never an epidemic of toothless people around... only city dwellers are stupid enough to pay their overlords to slowly poison them whilst being convinced that fluoride is good for them. sad... because their gubmint and their tv told them so....
Even regular “spring water” has it. They don’t have to say on the label.
Dam, I read all these comments and am surprised. I filter all my water but I am probably still getting fluoride. I heard tell that municipalities were getting their water treatment chemicals from China and THAT scared the tar out of me! Easy warfare.
But I hear tell that distilled water is Very bad for one's health. ?
It's...uhh....good for the uhhh...covid19...ya...covid19
Without taking a stand on fluoride, I must advise you that infants do have teeth, they simply have not yet erupted. Children are also given fluoride during their growing years to incorporate fluoride into the enamel of their not yet erupted adult teeth. Adults do not take systemic fluoride supplements for their teeth, as their teeth have already developed and erupted. Topical fluorides are used in adults (and children). It is proven that there is significantly less dental caries disease in children and adults that have had systemic fluoride supplements. Too much fluoride during tooth development will cause dental fluorosis, leaving teeth a mottled and ugly appearance, but caries resistant.
One may expect increased dental bills if you do not give your child fluoride, and dental abcesses can be life threatening. I have seen many of them requiring hospitalization and drainage.
You must be medical? Only someone brainwashed into the Rockefeller system would be so insane as to say the contents of the scrubbers from the phosphate aluminium and nuclear industries can do a body or teeth good. I have quoted elsewhere what sane people have said about this cancer causing useless evil shit being given to our children. No wonder one in two get cancer
Practiced Oral/Maxillofacial Surgery over 30 years. I prefaced my statement as not taking a stand of Flouride, but I wanted to let to poster know that babies to have teeth developing prior to eruption, hence the rationale for giving fluoride to infants. My observations were based on clinical experience having worked in the trenches during my career. These observations are on teeth, not other effects of fluoride in the body. That being said I was also indoctrinated into the vaccines are good group. I have an entire different view of vaccines now with the fake vax of mRNA, and no longer trust the vaccine makers. (unjabbed here, will never take another vax, and hope my grandkids don't either) I hadn't researched the antiflouridationist stuff, just the few things I have read on here. I do believe that adding fluoride to community drinking water is akin to forcing vaccines on people. They should be able to make their own choice, and today my thoughts are that adding flouride to drinking water takes that choice away and should not be done. And yes, full informed consent should be given for fluoride as apparently there are other issues with it other that it's effect on teeth. As for the pineal gland stuff, I do believe more research is needed as the pineal gland is poorly understood. I try to be open minded and realize bias may be at work. Always willing to change my perspective.
I searched fluoride in the forums and I just found this post from it looks like a month ago. I searched for it here because I am kinda torn on this fluoride thing. My 2 year old pediatric dentist says she doesn't need fluoride because her teeth are perfect.. the dentist also told me he didn't supplement his children with it either.. but today my daughter saw her Dr for her 2 year checkup and without asking me, she said " I am going to go ahead and prescribe her a multivitamin with fluoride in it. I told her that her dentist said that she didn't need it.. she was kinda floored because she also asked if he was pediatric, I said yeah, he is in the same building as you.. she just couldn't believe it. I guess I just didn't like the was she told me she was gonna prescribe it without asking.. but at the end of the check up she said that if we don't supplement it in the vitamin that she recommends that my daughter drink some tap water daily to get the fluoride. Just seems so odd to me that we can get the prescription she wanted to prescribe straight from the Tap... but maybe my daughter will have horrible teeth when she is older because of not supplementing now.
retard.
Please tell me how Africans or Native Indians, etc have great teeth without all their glorious fluoride treatments. You must work in the dental industry and suffering from some good ol' cognitive dissonance.
This^
Not all of them. We have a young Zambian relative whose teeth are in terrible shape from lack of care. Pretty much everyone drinks poorly filtered and untreated well water. There are no municipal water systems. Don't get the idea that this is a good thing. Aquifers can get polluted.
I must advise you to quit copying and pasting globohomo shit without posting sources.
https://www.ada.org/resources/research/science-and-research-institute/oral-health-topics/fluoride-topical-and-systemic-supplements
You state that it is proven that there are less caries in children and adults that use fluoride. Speaking as someone that was involved in medical and dental research for years, I was exposed to those same epidemiological studies in college. Dig deeper. Epidemiological studies are flawed and are not based on true clinical science. They are at their basically nothing more than statistical opinion. This is especially true concerning the whole premise underpinning the systemic use of fluoride in children. Gee, where have we heard safe and effective before? It is a common line used when trying to sell their own brand of snake oil.
From the very beginning, that entire public health policy surrounding fluoride was based on financial interests of commercial oligarchy - namely aluminum manufactures that were faced with the prospect of a huge financial burden to remove their toxic byproducts from the nation's water systems that they had been polluting. FDR created the US Public Health Service, and with the help of his corporate buddies at Alcoa Aluminum and the corrupt AMA, the US was given our current narrative about fluoride. Professional cancel culture was alive and well long before Covid in this arena concerning fluoride for anyone that dared to challenge the narrative. The same attitude holds true for vaxxines - but that is a conversation for another thread.
As far as real clinical science goes, it was stated in the ADA's own journal in either 2000 or 2002 that systemic use of fluoride did nothing to reduce acid solubility of dental structures. This does not even take into account the problems caused by dental fluorosis - and teeth are not the only calcified structures in the body. But yet we continue to poison millions of people by exposing them to fluoride that in actually has no nutritional purpose in human health. However, the ADA also concluded in that same paper that topical use of fluoride did help remineralize enamel. But keep in mind that in order for enamel to mineralize, that process takes approximately 20 to 30 minutes. Which is not long enough considering how most fluoride is used - either by water or toothpastes. Therefore, topical use of fluoride for purposes of remineralization are all but useless. There are safer alternatives to fluoride if topical remineralization is the goal - ACP and MCHA - that do not have the toxic effects associated with fluoride.
The bottom line is that fluoride is a toxic compound and should not be used under any circumstances. The list of its deleterious effects on the human body continue to grow and continue to be ignored. I have been on the front lines of this issue for years and have professionally taken the heat for exposing the ugly truth. I realized in college that it was all BS and tried to challenge the narratives even then. We must research for ourselves and be critical thinkers. What health care professionals claim as proof often is based on circular reasoning birthed from purely financial, and in some cases political, motivations. The American public has been sold a bill of goods on fluoride and professionals tasked with the responsibility of caring for patients continue to propagate the lie.