Regardless of if these allegations are true or not (all the evidence suggests that they are), the reality is, that the People of the Eastern world are being normalized to believe that Biden and the US were creating bioweapons in Ukraine, and the Western People are largely oblivious to the allegations as a whole.
Also, keep in mind that the Russian Foreign Ministry and Russian Legislators expect a conclusion to their final report to the UN in the “fall”. It’s fall. The timing of this video suggests that things may be coming that the broader public need to be introduced to.
Also, be sure to recognize that Trump has not appeared anywhere near any of the allegations or reports. Russia continue to direct the activity at Biden and the DNC specifically. Russia went out of their way to make sure the word knows Trump is excluded from these allegations. Which, whether these allegations are true or not, proves there is some level of alliance, truce, or agreement of some kind, between Trump and Putin.
last part......This video also proves that the allegations are not going away. Russian MIL have been pushing this heavily for approximately 7 months now. Providing consistent evidence to the UN. This isn’t a conspiracy theory. This isn’t a baseless disinformation campaign. Putin and Russia are serious about this, they were willing to go to war over it, and now Putin claims they are willing to use his entire arsenal to neutralize this global threat.
This problem isn’t going away. If Russia continue to be ignored, they will resort to alternative solutions if diplomacy fails. The world teeters on the brink of nuclear destruction.
Unfortunately some really great conservatives are in that bunch too. I have friends that have married Ukrainians & they are clearly in two camps. Either Putin is the Savior of their families back home, or Putin is horrible & destroying their old churches & towns.
There hasn't been any middle ground in their opinions from my limited discussions.
That said, my US citizen friends who have lived in the US for over 25+ years have a hard time trusting Putin because Russia was so atrocious to live in during the cold War Era.
I trust Putin more than Zelensky, though Putin was an amazing infowar/psyop guy before he became president IIRC.
Proving to your Ukranian friends that the Azov Battalion bombed their own cities (other than Putin's strategic targets) and then blamed Putin may turn their opinions around.
Also, do you think there is a possibility that Putin was replaced about 10 years ago? I would have never entertained that idea in the past...but these days, it is at least worth asking. His behavior and concepts changed for the better, right? Or, maybe the media had always portrayed him incorrectly, and he is the same now as then.
I am 40% decided that Biden isn't Biden. I am 80% sure Hillary has doubles. (They are different heights, even.) Doubles have been around for centuries.. only now we have better technology for masks and CGI.
You can show them the countless interviews of citizens saying it was the Azov nazi psychos who destroyed their cities not the russians. Check out Patrick Lancaster or Graham Phillips youtube channels. Here are a few links.
I saw videos of it, but I didn't save them. There are also interviews with witnesses. I will see if I can find them again.
Then, showing proof of all the fake news reporting (like when they used footage from a video game and from movies) will make our friends a little more willing to accept the proof we do show them.
There is also a picture of a scene (that has been obviously staged)...with cars turned over...but the windows in the building are all perfectly intact. Proof of media lies can make them more willing to believe the interviews of Ukranians blaming Azov Battalians for the explosions in their cities.
Putin being replaced would be an interesting turn of events, though I consistently see a narrative is spun in our media to give globalists/federal government more power.
If putin was espousing the similar messages in the 90s-today, if it didn't benefit those trying to centralize power, then it would not be broadcast to us IMO.
Ok I like what Bioclandestine is putting out about the US Bio Labs in Ukraine but WHY DOES HE KEEP RELEASING POTATO IMAGES OF THE PAPERS?! I can't see any of the letters in text documents that he takes a picture of and scans. WTF does it take to scan documents with a phone camera that's not pre-2009 tech?!
All it does is make others more skeptical when you try to show them Bioclandestine. He should be uploading full document files on his website and sourcing them in his images (along with actual CLEAR photos).
They know they have quite a mountain to climb to convince the public of the world of atrocities going on in US Bio Labs in Ukraine so WHY do they release this kind of shit?
Extraordinary claims, extraordinary proof. GenZ has low standards. We should not. We're talking about the US violating international treaties banning the development of biological weapons. We're talking about using black budgets and a bullshit cover operation (the DTRA) to do the work in foreign countries, and actively releasing the agents on local populations killing hundreds over the course of many years, and doing that work in a foreign country in order to try and cover up their own involvement. Remember how COVID got blamed on the Chinese, but it was Fauci who commissioned the work? The Chinese said it was the US Army and of course no one believed them. Now we've got evidence that the DoD was indeed doing this shit in 340 labs in countries all over Eastern Europe and Africa.
Extraordinary claims. Extraordinary proof. If this stuff is true, there are a lot of powerful people who need to be tried for crimes against humanity over this - and it would be our country's job to clean that mess up.
If you want to get it in the minds of the people release actual CLEAR photographs. How fucking hard is it for the average Joe, let alone the RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT to do this?
It may not be new to us, but it’s new to a whole bunch of people. This rudimentary slide show proves the Russian MIL have passed into the next phase in their dissemination campaign. Targeting a broader audience with small, digestible, visual aides. The Russian MIL are simplifying their discoveries from the Special Military Operation in Ukraine for more effective dissemination to the masses....i think he nailed it here.
Far too much of this stuff is piece meal and published with grainy, impossible to read images. I'd very much like to have a "literature review" that actually links to real data. Over the last hour (I may expand this if I get ambitious), I've tried to at least get some of the story in sequence and with appropriate sourcing, as often as possible to primary data. This program has been going on for decades and accelerated sharply under Obama/Biden.
When this initially hit in late Feb, early March, there was paperwork that was pulled from the US embassy website's files. Those were verifiable, and naturally, gone within 24 hours of exposure. I know someone's archived them, but I don't have the link. Other documents have allegedly come from Ukrainian regulators. Russia has gone several times to the UN attempting to show the evidence it has found, and no one seems to be interested in listening. Trying to even get reporting about what was accused is a nightmare with the MSM running 24/7 cover for them. SCMP at least lists the accusations here. Russia claims it captured these documents in the initial days of the war as Ukraine was trying to destroy evidence of the labs. Try and dig on any of this and all you'll get is links to the denials.
I believed those documents were genuine. They were consistent with the American documents, confirmed the working relationship, and seemed designed knowing what was going on, since they made strenuous demands for security and safety of the facilities to protect local populations. Further, I could go to the Dept of Defense's website and find details of the DTRA and its publicly acknowledged activities. Victoria Nuland testified that there were 11 labs under oath at a Senate hearing (Link to write-up at The Federalist). A month or two later, DoD confirmed in a press release there were actually 46 labs. Link here to a Yahoo "fact check" explaining the official cover story, extensively linked, you read and decide for yourself.
We know Hunter Biden was involved in financing the labs. DoD funds went to a contractor called Black & Veatch to build the labs. A company called Metabiota ran them. Funding was funneled through Hunter Biden's Rosement Seneca accounting firm. (Source: NYPost citing the HB laptop emails, link)
The list of agents is troubling and I'd like to have confirmation of this list. Best I can do is this Bulgarian journalist's (Dilyana Gaytandzhieva)exceptional work from 2018 documenting these outbreaks at a local level. She expands upon that work in a March 2022 piece that outlines how the DoD used civilian contractors to get around the appearance of direct handling of the program (which is consistent with the cover story they used for the 46 labs - that they're all civilian owned and run). This woman is a ferocious voice for truth and very much worth following.
Now, if this is true, the world would be right to scream their heads off. It is our sovereign duty to clean this mess up and seek justice. This is Anthony Fauci commissioning COVID-level stuff we're dealing with. If true, it represents crimes against humanity by people all the way to the tippy top. Extraordinary evidence requires extraordinary proof. We'll see what Russia can produce or if some very brave independent wants to try and unravel this mess.
He said he would put the link below, but didn't put it in his first reply where it should have been. He just started talking about it and got a bunch of replies that pushed his link reply way down the page.
Not gonna lie... when I scrolled through the slides in the context link I saw a big green pepe frog in slide #7. That could be some great meme material right there. Just add some more green and some eyes and we have pepe in the lab.
Regardless of if these allegations are true or not (all the evidence suggests that they are), the reality is, that the People of the Eastern world are being normalized to believe that Biden and the US were creating bioweapons in Ukraine, and the Western People are largely oblivious to the allegations as a whole.
Also, keep in mind that the Russian Foreign Ministry and Russian Legislators expect a conclusion to their final report to the UN in the “fall”. It’s fall. The timing of this video suggests that things may be coming that the broader public need to be introduced to.
Also, be sure to recognize that Trump has not appeared anywhere near any of the allegations or reports. Russia continue to direct the activity at Biden and the DNC specifically. Russia went out of their way to make sure the word knows Trump is excluded from these allegations. Which, whether these allegations are true or not, proves there is some level of alliance, truce, or agreement of some kind, between Trump and Putin.
last part......This video also proves that the allegations are not going away. Russian MIL have been pushing this heavily for approximately 7 months now. Providing consistent evidence to the UN. This isn’t a conspiracy theory. This isn’t a baseless disinformation campaign. Putin and Russia are serious about this, they were willing to go to war over it, and now Putin claims they are willing to use his entire arsenal to neutralize this global threat.
This problem isn’t going away. If Russia continue to be ignored, they will resort to alternative solutions if diplomacy fails. The world teeters on the brink of nuclear destruction.
Enter Trump stage left
-Clandestine
Thank you, u/mmtwo, you are approaching Mach 10 super frog status. We appreciate your heavy lifting. 🐸🐸🐸
thank you catsfive...high-hyper speed bound..
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thats what the very fake news will say for sure
Won't normies dismiss it no matter what if it's from Russia?
4-6% i'm guessing. I happen to know a few..
Unfortunately some really great conservatives are in that bunch too. I have friends that have married Ukrainians & they are clearly in two camps. Either Putin is the Savior of their families back home, or Putin is horrible & destroying their old churches & towns.
There hasn't been any middle ground in their opinions from my limited discussions.
That said, my US citizen friends who have lived in the US for over 25+ years have a hard time trusting Putin because Russia was so atrocious to live in during the cold War Era.
I trust Putin more than Zelensky, though Putin was an amazing infowar/psyop guy before he became president IIRC.
Proving to your Ukranian friends that the Azov Battalion bombed their own cities (other than Putin's strategic targets) and then blamed Putin may turn their opinions around.
Also, do you think there is a possibility that Putin was replaced about 10 years ago? I would have never entertained that idea in the past...but these days, it is at least worth asking. His behavior and concepts changed for the better, right? Or, maybe the media had always portrayed him incorrectly, and he is the same now as then.
I am 40% decided that Biden isn't Biden. I am 80% sure Hillary has doubles. (They are different heights, even.) Doubles have been around for centuries.. only now we have better technology for masks and CGI.
“Proving to your Ukranian friends that the Azov Battalion bombed their own cities”
I believe this 100% likely happened, but what’s the proof that can be shown to a normie?
You can show them the countless interviews of citizens saying it was the Azov nazi psychos who destroyed their cities not the russians. Check out Patrick Lancaster or Graham Phillips youtube channels. Here are a few links.
https://youtu.be/zP3kt9fxXCs
https://youtu.be/TLXR6pXrzBI
https://youtu.be/kZsWKXDKI-0
https://youtu.be/X1b-RKDHZOo
There are also lots of pre 2022 msm articles talking about it:
https://www.newsweek.com/evidence-war-crimes-committed-ukrainian-nationalist-volunteers-grows-269604 (Ukrainian Nationalist Volunteers Committing 'ISIS-Style' War Crimes)
This article also has a ton of links documenting nazi war crimes in the donbass:
https://kanekoa.substack.com/p/how-one-ukrainian-billionaire-funded (Kolomoisky funds azov nazis: How One Ukrainian Billionaire Funded Hunter Biden, Volodymyr Zelensky, And The Neo-Nazi Azov Battalion)
great work anon
I saw videos of it, but I didn't save them. There are also interviews with witnesses. I will see if I can find them again.
Then, showing proof of all the fake news reporting (like when they used footage from a video game and from movies) will make our friends a little more willing to accept the proof we do show them.
There is also a picture of a scene (that has been obviously staged)...with cars turned over...but the windows in the building are all perfectly intact. Proof of media lies can make them more willing to believe the interviews of Ukranians blaming Azov Battalians for the explosions in their cities.
Putin being replaced would be an interesting turn of events, though I consistently see a narrative is spun in our media to give globalists/federal government more power.
If putin was espousing the similar messages in the 90s-today, if it didn't benefit those trying to centralize power, then it would not be broadcast to us IMO.
True. My main talking point is decentralization, too.
https://bioclandestine.substack.com/p/russian-mil-simplifying-and-disseminating
Ok I like what Bioclandestine is putting out about the US Bio Labs in Ukraine but WHY DOES HE KEEP RELEASING POTATO IMAGES OF THE PAPERS?! I can't see any of the letters in text documents that he takes a picture of and scans. WTF does it take to scan documents with a phone camera that's not pre-2009 tech?!
All it does is make others more skeptical when you try to show them Bioclandestine. He should be uploading full document files on his website and sourcing them in his images (along with actual CLEAR photos).
those were from what the russians released
Friggin' Gen Z.
kek
They know they have quite a mountain to climb to convince the public of the world of atrocities going on in US Bio Labs in Ukraine so WHY do they release this kind of shit?
maybe to start getting it in minds of ppl. teasing for the final report?!
Extraordinary claims, extraordinary proof. GenZ has low standards. We should not. We're talking about the US violating international treaties banning the development of biological weapons. We're talking about using black budgets and a bullshit cover operation (the DTRA) to do the work in foreign countries, and actively releasing the agents on local populations killing hundreds over the course of many years, and doing that work in a foreign country in order to try and cover up their own involvement. Remember how COVID got blamed on the Chinese, but it was Fauci who commissioned the work? The Chinese said it was the US Army and of course no one believed them. Now we've got evidence that the DoD was indeed doing this shit in 340 labs in countries all over Eastern Europe and Africa.
Extraordinary claims. Extraordinary proof. If this stuff is true, there are a lot of powerful people who need to be tried for crimes against humanity over this - and it would be our country's job to clean that mess up.
If you want to get it in the minds of the people release actual CLEAR photographs. How fucking hard is it for the average Joe, let alone the RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT to do this?
It may not be new to us, but it’s new to a whole bunch of people. This rudimentary slide show proves the Russian MIL have passed into the next phase in their dissemination campaign. Targeting a broader audience with small, digestible, visual aides. The Russian MIL are simplifying their discoveries from the Special Military Operation in Ukraine for more effective dissemination to the masses....i think he nailed it here.
Again. USE CLEAR FUCKING PHOTOGRAPHS. It isn't that hard.
If I wanted to catch a criminal, I wouldn't release a blurry image of his face.
there was probably a list distributed in the meeting where the sides were shown..
https://truthsocial.com/@Clandestine/posts/109066346675081786
Thanks for your nice enticing summation.
They need to collapse the Western media or this will go nowhere.
I believe this is #1, too. Everything happening won't mean squat unless this happens. Media is the largest threat to the truth.
Thanks so much for the work you have done here
Far too much of this stuff is piece meal and published with grainy, impossible to read images. I'd very much like to have a "literature review" that actually links to real data. Over the last hour (I may expand this if I get ambitious), I've tried to at least get some of the story in sequence and with appropriate sourcing, as often as possible to primary data. This program has been going on for decades and accelerated sharply under Obama/Biden.
When this initially hit in late Feb, early March, there was paperwork that was pulled from the US embassy website's files. Those were verifiable, and naturally, gone within 24 hours of exposure. I know someone's archived them, but I don't have the link. Other documents have allegedly come from Ukrainian regulators. Russia has gone several times to the UN attempting to show the evidence it has found, and no one seems to be interested in listening. Trying to even get reporting about what was accused is a nightmare with the MSM running 24/7 cover for them. SCMP at least lists the accusations here. Russia claims it captured these documents in the initial days of the war as Ukraine was trying to destroy evidence of the labs. Try and dig on any of this and all you'll get is links to the denials.
I believed those documents were genuine. They were consistent with the American documents, confirmed the working relationship, and seemed designed knowing what was going on, since they made strenuous demands for security and safety of the facilities to protect local populations. Further, I could go to the Dept of Defense's website and find details of the DTRA and its publicly acknowledged activities. Victoria Nuland testified that there were 11 labs under oath at a Senate hearing (Link to write-up at The Federalist). A month or two later, DoD confirmed in a press release there were actually 46 labs. Link here to a Yahoo "fact check" explaining the official cover story, extensively linked, you read and decide for yourself.
We know Hunter Biden was involved in financing the labs. DoD funds went to a contractor called Black & Veatch to build the labs. A company called Metabiota ran them. Funding was funneled through Hunter Biden's Rosement Seneca accounting firm. (Source: NYPost citing the HB laptop emails, link)
The list of agents is troubling and I'd like to have confirmation of this list. Best I can do is this Bulgarian journalist's (Dilyana Gaytandzhieva)exceptional work from 2018 documenting these outbreaks at a local level. She expands upon that work in a March 2022 piece that outlines how the DoD used civilian contractors to get around the appearance of direct handling of the program (which is consistent with the cover story they used for the 46 labs - that they're all civilian owned and run). This woman is a ferocious voice for truth and very much worth following.
Now, if this is true, the world would be right to scream their heads off. It is our sovereign duty to clean this mess up and seek justice. This is Anthony Fauci commissioning COVID-level stuff we're dealing with. If true, it represents crimes against humanity by people all the way to the tippy top. Extraordinary evidence requires extraordinary proof. We'll see what Russia can produce or if some very brave independent wants to try and unravel this mess.
I guess "Wait and See".
Or, as it says in a holy book: "Come, and see."
The key is going to be when the UN confirms these findings.
It's the only way any of this sticks with our normie friends.
So I'll say, if this is indeed a movie, The UN will be "forced" to admit this is all true.
Then we reach the precipice of nuclear tensions... And...?
But isn't the UN essentially a Deep State controlled organization?
Yes traditionally it is
But we are in very strange times
this
speaking of the precipice... https://greatawakening.win/p/15JnFyoBnM/-clandestine----trump-has-been-g/c/
I fucking hate telegram link, if you want to share something, share it so people DOESNT have to sign up for some bullshit, rarely used apps.
I don't have a Telegram account, but I saw the video fine. Of course, I'm using a real desktop computer, not a handheld tracking device.
Yeah. I ignore telegram links. It’s crap.
It's used often enough, especially in Russia. https://www.receivesms.org/us-numbers/us/
They'll just keep on ignoring it, the media will call it RuSsIaN PrOpAgAnDa, and the normies will put their blinders on as usual.
I kept clicking the blue line of bioclandestine.substack.com/p/ under Clandestine and it went nowhere.
No wonder I am called brain dead. LOL
He said he would put the link below, but didn't put it in his first reply where it should have been. He just started talking about it and got a bunch of replies that pushed his link reply way down the page.
Thanks for not laughing at Brain_Dead.
Aspie's try to be helpful.
Thanks, Aspie. You are very helpful.
thanks fren i see what happened. looks like our great mods have added it to the title now.thanks mods
kek
Not gonna lie... when I scrolled through the slides in the context link I saw a big green pepe frog in slide #7. That could be some great meme material right there. Just add some more green and some eyes and we have pepe in the lab.
Normies won't believe it though, probably not even mainstream republicans.
that would be sad
I agree, but they're brainwashed.