I've seen a lot of Anons not point out the biggest, NUMBER 1, reason why Q is widely considered legitimate. It's because of the Post Deltas. Not the year-long deltas, mind you...
This will just be a quick breakdown of the facts.
How do we know Q is legitimate?
Well, let's look at the above data and draw some conclusions...
How can we prove that Trump and Q were/are knowingly coordinating posts?
Well, what if Q posts and then Trump Tweets, over and over again?
That's the significance.
It's one thing if Trump posts and then Q posts -- it just means Q is using a snooper program to see when Trump posts and then plops his turds out as soon as he can.
But that's not what's happened.
Pay attention to the order:
Q posts on the Chans.
Trump Tweets soon after.
Then Q posts on the Chans, again.
Then Trump Tweets soon after, once again.
Over and over, until we see that they are actually narrowing the time difference (delta) between the postings.
Up until Q posts and then, LESS THAN A MINUTE LATER, Trump Tweets.
That happened 36 freaking times before December 2019!
The only explanation is that Trump is watching the Chans for when Q posts so he knows when to post. That, or Trump is openly telling Q he's about to post and then waits until Q goes first...
And take a note at the convergence trends. There are very few 1-minute deltas. That, coupled with the clear line of best fit with positive correlation, shows an intention to converge timestamps towards a 0-point delta (less than 1 minute apart).
How many times does this "coincidence" have to occur until it's clear Trump is telling Q when he is about to post?
Well, the graph above shows that the likelihood that it was all just mere chance would be far beyond statistically probable. You have a better chance of getting struck by lightning while winning the lottery and then mauled by a polar bear.
It's that unlikely that Q was just guessing real gud-ly.
When people tell you "Q is a psyop" the FIRST thing you should point out is that Trump is statistically, provably involved with the psyop. They are joined at the hip, like Siamese twins.
If Q is a CIA plot, then so is Trump.
Only Autists can appreciate just how difficult the whole scheme would have to be to even accomplish what is plainly obvious given the timestamps. Plainly put, if you can't read the data and come to the same conclusion -- you wouldn't make the cut on The Apprentice.
This is the most powerful proof we have -- and I'm sorta sad I don't see it discussed as common knowledge at this point... This is the magic bullet against any naysayers. At this point, with as much verifiable info we have; if someone doesn't understand the raw data, it's because they simply don't want to.
Study the data in post 3727. Understand just how significant this proof system is over all the nonsense "predictions" they claim Q keeps getting wrong. Q never made predictions -- just check the posts yourself.
Instead, Q posts obscure hints that only make sense once the related event transpires. There is no prediction, there is only a validation effort. Once the event happens, Q is standing there on the previous post and everyone is scratching their heads wondering how those key-terms managed to pop up so succinctly.
That's why we're here... Because Q is legit beyond a shadow of a doubt. Only those ostriches with their heads in the sand are still not willing to admit that.
Excellent post. Sticky requested!
👏 Agreed.
I don't really even need the proofs, the FEROCITY with which the media attacks "Qanon" is all the proof I need.
They don't even mention flat earthers or 9/11 truthers or Kennedy assassination theorists anymore. And when they did it was to mock them. They ATTACK the Q movement with a viciousness they had previously reserved only for Trump. This tells you everything you need to know about how real it is.
I think Dan Scovino is one of the Q team, especially after they only missed a time post by several seconds and then Q came back and said Dan's fault. I didn't look but I think this is pretty accurate.
Dan is definitely involved.
That is one reason we are here, to guide in the right direction. Just reading the Q posts alone wouldn't make a lot of sense unless you were watching the entire conversations and posts that Q confirmed. I am not saying everyone has to know every detail on how we know what we know. If they get Maga now they are slowly drifting more and more to Q anyway. Maga is now worldwide in various forms, so is Q. Fun in our new history classes, will we remember the Meme Wars we had, that was fun. It is still going, but at the beginning it was so much fun figuring out ways to get around all the algorithms they could throw at us.
Real question… what if someone at Twitter was able to intercept Trumps tweets and delay post it after Pysop Q post goes through?
Not hating. Just playing devils advocate here.
That's been looked into before.
Again, I'd direct you towards convergence pattern. If it was merely a matter of nailing the time stamp, then we'd see a much more consistent pattern. When two people post at the same time on any online board, there is always going to be a delay from button-press to the actual server bounce where the site registers a time stamp.
Q mentions this delay several times.
https://qalerts.app/?n=4527
Anons, back in the day, also had similar complaints, which is why they demanded Trump to answer requests, such as the "tippy-top" request to validate that Trump not only is watching the Chans, but is also supporting Q on the Chans.
https://qalerts.app/?n=991
Besides, such snooper programs would also run on the delay, which would compound the issue.
Summarily, for it just to be a clever snooper intercepting the Tweet press from Trump, it would mean he was spied on, which only confirms that Q is not, in fact, a LARP but definitely a psyop. Whether it is a blackhat or whitehat psyop is the next question to ask.
Trump never disowning Q or Anons is a good indication that he's for Q, therefore we can assume by those means it is a whitehat operation.
Then it all comes down to whether or not you think Trump is actually a Patriot or a DeepState triple-agent taking us all for a ride and the last 6 years have only been a game of cat and mouse where we are the long-since dead mouse, but we just haven't realized it yet.
There's no hope in that timeline, I'm afraid... So, we must choose to either be optimistic or pessimistic. I choose optimism, because what other choice is there, really?
Brilliant response. Couldn't have said it better myself.
Before I knew any of this including pizzagate in summer of 2016, I noticed something odd about Trump and his early campaign. Do you remember how many times in the summer of 2015 he supposedly "stepped in it" or "put his foot in his mouth" and the media declared this is the end of his campaign. I have to say I thought so too on several occasions but then I noticed something out of the ordinary, unusual, strange. Every time he said these controversial things, his poll numbers went up not down. I was puzzled to say the least until May of 2016 when I first heard Mark Taylor's "The Trump Prophecies". That opened my eyes and I realized that he was anointed by God for this time and that no man could take him down. He has a veil of protection by The Lord Himself. So when I hear people say he might be deep state taking us all for ride, I dismiss it.
lol I love those videos. All those retarded clowns (you can insert the pun if you want) saying "iTs oVeR!!" every time they thought Trump said something stupid.
HiS cAmPaiGn iS oVeR!!
Teflon Don
No name death plus tippy top should have sealed the deal
Great response, is there raw data I can get my hands on and chop it up? I would love to find some trends.
Maybe use the deleted Trump tweets in json format.
Then you can compare it to q-posts on 8 kun.
By each of them posting quickly with the comms NO ONE can intercept the comms and try to change it...anyone would have to be in the data stream and that ONLY happens on the server...WHO controls the server, Controls the data!!!!!!
Maybe that's 1 reason why Twitter nuked Trump's account. Someone discovered it was validating Q.
Awesome post. Agreed 100%
To answer your question re: why this isn't being discussed as common knowledge is due to your earlier point "Only Autists can appreciate just how difficult the whole scheme would have to be to even accomplish what is plainly obvious given the timestamps."
That's the problem and solution all in one. People are so programmed to think Q is nonsense and Trump is bad, that they shut down.
Even in light of all the witch hunts, election fraud and COVID scam.... it's still hard to even approach this subject w/ normies. It's less disbelief and more of a mental protection mechanism. They don't want to even consider the scope of what being wrong means.
Subconsciously this erases the previous 6 years of their lives, and that's best case scenario. Many of these people have identities that are quite literally based on the false narrative.
This is why it's difficult to discuss as common knowledge. People need to at least ask the right questions first.
People(normies, sheep, my sister) think the Titanic was just a movie, a love story, oh no iceberg…and Trump man bad mean tweeter how dare he! They are MK’d. Qlearly we know what happened with the Titanic murders and the tweeting was for comms with Q and to ultimately push them to the brink where they took the bait and banned. Now here we are. And by the way, Q’s real and they’re spectacular!
Do they really believe that no ship was sunk that night? That no people actually died?
I've seen a load of newspaper front pages from back then that said the Titanic hit an iceberg, but the passengers had been saved and the Titanic was being towed back to land. I think there was a YouTube video on that. So yes, there are some people who think it didn't sink. Also there seems to be evidence that the Titanic and Britannic were swapped out.
My grandfather knew a man who survived by dressing as a woman and getting on a life raft. I don't think anyone liked him.
needed to be said and you said it well OP.
SleepyDude, you have provided beyond doubt the convergence between PDJT & Q. This is what I needed because I have been trying to find that particular anomaly in data that I have. Thank you for providing the answer to the quandry!!!!!!
COWABUNGA DUDE!!!!!!
This is an excellent breakdown of the TRUE importance and significance of the zero deltas.... so many others have it both backwards AND upside down (so to speak) just as you said. I don't have much to add as to the deltas. However....
Wait until you learn who has been talking to you here.
Based on the conversations I had in this thread and some deep thought I've come to the conclusion that: 9,13,17 or Q = Trump.
Among other things, what Kash says about "effective messaging" in the way Q got out there And then begs the question who else is great at running effective messaging strategies? Trump.
They (Kash & Trump) also share a good sense of humor. "Having fun with it" does that mean they share the Q moniker, perhaps not to create the messages but rather to have a stand-in at the ready to post them almost simultaneously.
Anyways yeah. Currently, I think Trump is Q. It would solve so many logistics puzzles we've wondered about, among them the zero deltas.
Trump's team is a extension of Trump, so whether it's him personally (with his hands on two phones), or him coordinating with his inner circle (sitting around a table, saying, "3, 2, 1, go! "), it would look the same and it could rightfully be said that Trump did that.
Yes that is sort of how I imagine it. Yet also there probably would have been times where it was just Trump by himself or maybe just with his personal assistants (Scavino) sitting around posting as Q. In times of greater importance/action-packed, others come in and help out with the Ops. Could even be some military intel folks coordinating and assisting too.
Interesting, However, and as a fren, I disagree.
One, I personally believe that the Q op has been in play since JFK was assassinated. I don’t think Q was using the phrase “WWG1WGA” by accident. I think they have been monitoring in the background to see where this was all headed. The reason the Q team knows the deep state/globohomo’s plan, is because they have been watching it from the beginning.
Two, Q always talks about POTUS in the 3rd person. Trump is a big part of the white hat plan, but he is not the plan. I also think they have been in contact with him for many years before his run for presidency. Obama was a clear indication that the deepstate/globohomos were going to finish their plan and wrap it up in 16 years (2 Obama terms and 2 Hillary terms). Therefore they tapped him on the shoulder and said it was time to intervene.
Three, Q used Q+ to refer to POTUS (Q0 = Q+, where Q0 is the call sign AF1 temporarily squawked once as a confirmation, see posts 2563, 2565, 2567). EDIT: There are also 45 drops that mention 'Q+'.
As an aside to make sure anons are on the same page…
There is Q - The person (not persons, as some have suggested) that communicated with anons via the chans and 8kun.
There is Q+ - POTUS (specifically OUR POTUS)
There is the Q-op “leadership” - The “less than 10” that know the full scope. This does NOT include Q himself. In drop 244, Q stated this same “less than 10” are the only ones that could verify who he is. “Less than 10” is believed to be 9, as opposed to 8 or something else. “Less than 10” was stated 9 times in drops. Therefore the entire Q-op team that is working the full scope is most likely 10.
We also know there are 3 civilians in the “less than 10” group. Who they are is an interesting discussion. I agree that Scavino is most likely one, based on his social media posts and because Trump probably needed a confidant. I don’t consider Trump himself one, as he was/is the CiC. Nunes and Kash are good candidates. They are definitely involved. Question is, are they full scope involved? They seem very focused on the deep states targeting of Trump, which is a very small portion of what the Q-op is involved with. But maybe that is only the public presentation of their efforts.
(not persons, as some have suggested)
Post #4:
Oct 29 2017 11:11:40 (EST) Some of us come here to drop crumbs, just crumbs.
A few things about that and related things.
The first 60 posts are special. I personally believe that the first 60 posts contain everything we need to know about the plan and will play out once the storm is acknowledged. Everything after was building the movement, proving legitimacy, and providing background information.
The first 60 posts are also not signed Q. Its possible the first 60 posts were created by someone or someones that are part of the Q team, but not the person who started signing their posts with 'Q'.
I think what Q, or whoever, meant by "us" in that statement is people who leak inside info onto the chans, not 'us' as in the Q team. In otherwords, some insiders leak info (crumbs) onto the chans and that is all they do; we are going to do much more. And that is true. The M.O. of the Q team is much more than just dropping some crumbs.
Then of course, drop 244: "Les than 10 can confirm ME".
Strategery 😂
Strategeric thinking!
"I gotta big brain bro" - Eagles lineman 🤣
LOL
Just tried to run the numbers on this, but it's impossible to have any precision with this calculation since we're missing the posts greater than 20 minutes different, and we don't know if a random sample was used (this is looking at a sample of 502 posts; based on the linked post number, I would assume 3727 posts had been posted by this point). Given that we're looking at only 20% of the posts, it would be possible to cherry pick such that it gave the desired mathematically impossible outcome.
To be clear, I'm not saying this analysis is incorrect, just that as it stands it requires more thorough vetting, since the given data doesn't stand on its own.
EDIT:
Performing a simple standard deviation based probability calculation over this limited dataset gives about a 2% chance of having 36 zero-deltas given the distribution of posts.
EDIT2:
If we really want to calculate the probability of this, we would need to get Trump's posting intervals from the beginning of Q's posts up until this post. Then we need to do the same for Q's posts. It's pretty simple at that point to run a monte carlo analysis randomizing the order of intervals between posts to figure out the difference between the actual post intervals and random chance.
Are you just analyzing the 36 0-minute deltas? Or are you taking into account the other deltas as well as their convergence pattern?
The calculation after the "EDIT" line computed the probability of the 36 zero-deltas based on the average and standard deviation of all 502 deltas included in the graph.
Q had me at tippy top🐸
I have often thought of doing a real "double blind" survey on this. For example: not only check trumps time stamps, but some other person. Let's say Flynn. Or any other person we think might be him. It would be very interesting to compare each one. Sadly, I just haven't had time. If any other anon wants to, I may can help. If Trump is the ONLY one like that, we'll we have our 100% answer.
Great post but you need to change the Qanon in the script to just Q since there is no Qanon.
That's the original posts. Lol. WE called it that long before msm
I never did. It was either Q or Anon as far back as I can remember.
So what significant thing(s) happen/happened when the two lines converge(d)??
Definitely strongly suggests coordination, and possibly close proximity. Any way to take a look at dates or time periods and see who was around and what was happening?
https://qposts.online/post/244
Like a lot of the proofs Q has given us, deltas serve as confirmation for anons. Normies won't recognize their significance until they have willingly gone down the rabbit hole.
I agree that they are hugely compelling, though.
Excellent post fren. Newer anons may not have been around to see this, but I remember the lengths to which they went in the early days to validate Q were insane.
Nice job fren. This is getting some traction on TS.
u/#q1
Is this a prediction or just a statement of fact?
Is it true? Did it happen?
u/#q2
"Hillary Clinton will be arrested . . ." is not part of the Q post, but a post by another anon that Q is replying to.
I don't know why people keep getting this screwed up. There was no direct prediction in the post, but only a general statement of things to come someday.
You have a better chance of getting struck by lightning while winning the lottery and then mauled by a polar bear.
So I'd be getting struck by lighting WHILE winning the lottery, THEN mauled by a polar bear? Can I ask how much later, because if it's years down the road, I guess at least I'd have some fun after the lightning strike and lottery win. :)
This proof would be easier to remember and explain if it had a commonly accepted name.
Another idea I had to help illustrate the idea of deltas was some sort of website or app where people are able to cross-reference their own tweets against President Trump’s tweets to verify how many zero deltas they themselves had during the period that Q posted. Just a fun app to compare YOU vs Q.
Or if the person didn’t tweet much, they could just press a button that randomizes 5,000+ “possible tweet timestamps” and then cross-references them against President Trump’s, again looking for zero deltas. Sliders could be used to adjust length of deltas and other parameters.
Basically it would be a way for people to experience the excuse they are claiming explains the zero deltas. Also it would be more statistical proof. Which blue check mark on Twitter has the most zero deltas with President Trump? What is that number and how close is it to Q’s? Because if a so-called LARP in a basement is able to get this many random zero deltas while specifically writing about Trump, then surely everyone else writing about anything else around the world should also be achieving a similar number of zero deltas, right?
I would call it "Post Convergence"
The significant marker in the data is that the line of best fit forms a positive correlation moving towards 0-point deltas.
The huge dip in the 1-minute deltas shows that when they actively went for a 0-minute delta, they went for it. 1-minute deltas were seen as more of a failure than 20-minute deltas because if you're gonna go for gold, getting silver just means you could have won if you tried just a smidge harder. It's like a kick to the balls.
I hate to have to play the "Devil's Advocate" (but I really hate that guy), but for this to mean anything, you would need to find out how much time elapsed between ALL Q "drops" and ALL Trump posts (Trump posts closest to the preceding Q drops)
I think the DS would have tracked and traced everyone already if they could. They definitely have the data and resources to do it.
Same folks don't know how to use e-mail. I would not overestimate their tech abilities.