Well, what? I understand flip-flopping but changing your mind on a topic means you're able to accept new information that goes against what you already believe. "10 years ago he said x now he says y" - idk about you but I've changed my opinion on many topics within the last 10 years thanks to the anon community especially.
...What exactly do you think that video demonstrates? Like, at all? What clip from that video do you mean to point towards?
This video starts with a magician... doing... a magic trick... for comedy. His name is Richard Garriott and even the slightest amount of research would result in that being a very obvious comedy bit. And it uses that as, "evidence." That's the best thing that this video shows, and it's absolutely nothing.
The rest are a mix of demonstrating perfectly normal things occurring and someone with an agenda trying to shoehorn them in. Movies exist, astronaut training facilities exist, misspeaking happens (trying to say, "...is underway here on the ground" and actually saying, "is underground"), a city guy being reminded of a planetarium when he first sees a true night sky is perfectly normal, and video advertisements exist.
It's an impressive amount of stupid to share that video, thinking that it even presents an argument of something, much less evidence.
Richard Allen Garriott de Cayeux (né Garriott; born July 4, 1961) is an American video game developer, entrepreneur and private astronaut. Although both his parents were American, he maintains dual British and American citizenship by birth.
Garriott, who is the son of NASA astronaut Owen Garriott, was originally a game designer and programmer, and is now involved in a number of aspects of computer-game development. On October 12, 2008, Garriott flew aboard the Soyuz TMA-13 mission to the International Space Station as a space tourist,[3][4] returning 12 days later aboard Soyuz TMA-12. He became the second space traveler, and first from the United States, to have a parent who was also a space traveler. During his ISS flight, he filmed a science fiction movie Apogee of Fear.
Exactly. My opinion can change in an instant due to new information. It all depends on where you've gotten your information to change that said opinion
There’s always the chance that Musk didn’t flip-flop or change his mind, and he always knew the vaxx is diarrhea. Many of us knew it right away, and Musk is supposed to be smart. Maybe he was undercover as a vaxx dupe so that the vaxxers would be less afraid of being exposed by him.
He knew we wouldn't be taking a shot no matter what he said. This was for normies who were getting the shots anyway. Just optics.
Bump stocks don't accomplish anything. "Spray and pray" just wastes ammo without hitting much. One shot at a time to single identifiable targets is more efficient. There are videos online on how to simulate the effect of a bump stock. It was an easy target and had nothing to do with limiting gun ownership or use.
I used to think of my autism as a curse. No point in that now, I've made it this far with the help of my second wife. Trust me, it was no picnic. I am near 100% certain that the vaccines I was administered had something to do with it, but what is even more revealing is that my mother had taken small doses of thalidomide to combat her cancer. I have had health screenings and such, but I don't get them very often because I do not trust the medical profession, and so far they haven't determined any other ill effects ither than stammering, stuttering, and autism, i.e. no physiological defects. That really doesn't matter - I'll die when I die. However, had I known things earlier in my life it may have made a difference, or at least alleviated some of the trauma.
It's all good now, though. I actually consider myself one of the lucky ones, and have put all the emotional, physical, mental and sexual abuse behind me. I could have gone after the Catholic Church for what they did, but all the money in the world won't erase the memories. That's up to me.
I've read that colloidal silver can help with clearing metal toxins such as those in injection adjuvants. Suramin also has been brought up by Dr Judy Mikovits as potential treatment for autism disorder.
Good to know. It used to be much worse, but with my wife's help I was able to bring it under control. I don't know if it would do any good to eradicate it now, but that's okay. I know where the monster in the closet is hiding and have kept it at bay, and besides, I have about 10-15 years left anyway.
My wife and I were pro-vaccine during the early years of our children's lives. We kept all their vaccines up-to-date (unfortunately). We experienced, what we are convinced, was vaccine damage in a couple of our children who are now in their 20's & 30's. We started researching over the last 10 years and became convinced that for the most part vaccines were doing more harm than good. I'm 70 years old now - in my day we got 2 or 3 vaccines. Today I believe the "recommended" number of jabs is over 60 - insane. Look at the autism rate today as compared to my day (50's/60's). 1 in 32 (or so) children now have some sort of autism. When the scamdemic hit we were already educated - none of us (7) got the clot shot! We did all get the dreaded covid in July 2020. With the help of supplements, sunshine & clean living we all got over it. Not one hospital or doctors visit - no prescription drugs. My point is: people have and DO change assuming they have an open mind and are capable of critical thinking. (End of Rant)
Thanks for bringing your experience here. You should consider posting once in a while. We can always use more life experiences so we are not doomed to repeat what already failed.
I'm a generation behind you and I believe we had between 6 and 12 recommended vaccines when I grew up. After that I believe is when the autism diagnoses started showing up, and coincidentally (...) the number of recommended vaxxes started to rise.
If you chart the # of recommended vaccines over time and compare it to the autism rate there appears to be a correlation. Autism rate goes up with the # of vaccines. At any rate something is causing this alarming rate of autism in the current generation. For us, we went from following the vaccine schedule when our children were young to convincing them not to vaccinate our future grandchildren (assuming God blesses us with some).
I just went through that with our (new) first grandchild. Fortunately our daughter and son-in-law agree about vaccines and my daughter is watching like a hawk to make sure nobody tries to sneak anything in during any pediatrician appointments.
We were lucky - we got an early granddaughter. I'm not sure my older daughter will even be able to when she wants a kid. She is a teacher and no matter what we told her she hasn't met a booster she doesn't like. She left our house a conservative, went to school and managed to make it out at least as a moderate, but now all her friends are lefties. I'm still trying to get her back to being conservative again but it is hard to do when she lives across the country from me. Time will tell.
Excellent point! And I stand corrected. We didn't know really what was causing our illness. We all fell ill - one after the other. We never got "tested". By that time I concluded that the PCR tests were bogus. Whatever we had it was a strange illness. I was 68 at the time. I should have put " " marks around the word "covid"! There I fixed it.
“Smartest man in the world” used to donate to the Clinton’s. I knew a girl in high school who was valedictorian, book smarts dripping out her ears. 4.0, could learn new languages in a week, aced every test, and she couldn’t drive across the parking lot without getting lost. Total savant. Intelligence is not universal, nor is it translatable to all aspects of existence. Elon self reported that he took the shot. That’s deep deep cover in order to not get kicked off Twitter. OR, Elon was also fooled like millions of others. Don’t sell yourself short if you knew there was something way wrong with the whole Covid situation. Very successful intelligent people took the bait hook line and sinker. Purebloods are a unique and valuable individual.
This. So much this. The mockingbird propaganda is fucking strong. We need to realize and accept that we could have been fooled the same. Then we can start healing the divide.
There are many kinds of intelligence, such as memorization, body smarts, art, writing, math, etc... And none of them equate to wisdom, critical thought, or independent spirit.
Indoctrination has programmed the populace to accept white coat/ivory tower words over direct experience and common sense; to doubt reason in favor of proclamations, to abdicate thinking for oneself.
If I had to guess, I'd say this entire thing was a giant red pill for Elon. Accepting that the MSM is nothing but a propaganda machine controlled by various 3 lettered entities is a hard pill for many to swallow. Some of the smartest people I know IRL refuse to acknowledge that. Whats clear to us, is muddy as hell for many others.
I don’t buy this at all. There was no incentive for Elon to go out of his way to parrot the narrative. Tactical cloaking is meant to hide the presence of something. What did he need to hide that he couldn’t have just kept quiet about. No, Elon, who self reportedly took the vaccine, was also duped. Intelligence isn’t equally compartmentalized across a person’s consciousness. We all have blind spots. I believe that spacex and Tesla had vaccine mandate requirements for more than a little while.
Your logic is highly flawed for me, what am I not seeing?
People do grow, learn, educate themselves and so develop differing opinions about some things. Time changes us all regardless of our intellectual fulfillment at any moment in time.
So musk is growing, maybe. Or he is LARPing, maybe, or he could be a deep cover actor emerging to play whatever role was the intent of said cover, maybe.
Right now we should watch his show, we do not have to trust him or invest in him or place our hopes in him, just watch. See if his actions over Time define any purpose - right now he appears to stumble around, yin and yang, completely out of phase diametrically opposing stances on things.
So watch, let him prove himself one way or the other, don't sit close enough to be splashed with it tho.
“Feign disorder, and crush your enemy”.
For me it’s more about what does, and doesn’t get revealed on the Twitter files, and what happens in the background when the spotlight is on musk and Twitter.
Will the lame duck house vote to give themselves immunity while the spotlight is on things that happened two years ago?
"Smartest" man on the planet flops opinions on the clot shot in 18 months time. From "the science is unequivocal " to "Prosecute/Fauci" and he did it because "everyone is allowed to change their opinions"...lol yeah right ok.
I personally think he is a bad dude that's been forced to switch sides for the good and maybe the Twitter purchase was done by someone else with elon as the talking head.
Before, the left as a whole loved him...what better way to make them acknowledge the truth.
I just think he was all “tRuSt tHE sCIeNce” like alot of people were. Highly educated doesn’t mean smartest guy in the room. It’s usually the opposite. He was fooled. Dumbest people Ive ever worked for were usually the most educated and wealthy.
I don’t like that he said the science is unequivocal. Most people have done zero research on the science. That includes most healthcare professionals although they have a very strong opinion on the vaccine but I’ve done none of the groundwork to actually look at the data. Keeping in mind that no data was available when these were rolled out.
Data was absolutely available. The validity of the data should be questioned, but mortality of Covid infections showed less than .2% less than 6 months into the lockdowns/mandates.
Many studies conducted on masks, and ivermectin were available before Covid even “existed”.
Making claims like this is so counterproductive.
That in itself is a dataset. We can say with certianty, “the side effects, the ingredients, and long term effects of the mRNA Covid shots were intentionally with held by the medical industrial complex”.
That is a pretty definitive dataset in my mind.
There’s something that I see that you seem not to. Not arguing. Just describing my perspective. And want to find a reason why I’m wrong. So far, my ideas seem to not be discountable.
What are we baffled about? Elons intentions? I’m not baffled, I see two possible motivations, and time will tell as actions will reveal his intentions.
Good point. The “why” aspect of your question to me, means that anons here have taken stock of elons parents, their pictures in MSM, Elon’s costumes at Halloween, his association with the DOD through spacex govt contracts, and they wonder if there’s a chance that Elon is playing a part and setting up a play for the black hats.
I agree with that guy who was interviewed by Kerry Cassidy regarding Project Looking Glass. He said that during his time in the military and due to his intelligence, he was asked to look at what Looking Glass was spitting out regarding the convergence of different timelines. All the timelines fed to into Looking Glass came up with the same result and the result (which was kept from this individual doing the work) terrified the elite. His best guess, according to what he told Kerry was that no matter what timeline was fed into Looking Glass it always led to a mass Great Awakening. It seems that Looking Glass was correct...?
Seems like what’s in the files is damning enough to flip an honest man like that 🫰.
Edit: well, that, and/or the weaselly malfeasance of Fauci and his partners-in-crime, and the total and tragic failure of the “vaccine”, over the last year and a half… plus now witnessing the Twitter files to see the obscenely illegal manner in which this attack on our country was carried out.
Well, what? I understand flip-flopping but changing your mind on a topic means you're able to accept new information that goes against what you already believe. "10 years ago he said x now he says y" - idk about you but I've changed my opinion on many topics within the last 10 years thanks to the anon community especially.
Imagine still keeping the opinions you had when you were fifteen.
Hell, I'm embarrassed with the opinions I had in 2019.
So... thoughts on a flat earth?
Easy C5 jus playn ;)
Flat or not. A huge part of the space program is a lie.
NASA ... Sometimes there is a pocket of Gravity. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBRUye7-ml0
Yes this
...What exactly do you think that video demonstrates? Like, at all? What clip from that video do you mean to point towards?
This video starts with a magician... doing... a magic trick... for comedy. His name is Richard Garriott and even the slightest amount of research would result in that being a very obvious comedy bit. And it uses that as, "evidence." That's the best thing that this video shows, and it's absolutely nothing.
The rest are a mix of demonstrating perfectly normal things occurring and someone with an agenda trying to shoehorn them in. Movies exist, astronaut training facilities exist, misspeaking happens (trying to say, "...is underway here on the ground" and actually saying, "is underground"), a city guy being reminded of a planetarium when he first sees a true night sky is perfectly normal, and video advertisements exist.
It's an impressive amount of stupid to share that video, thinking that it even presents an argument of something, much less evidence.
Richard Allen Garriott de Cayeux (né Garriott; born July 4, 1961) is an American video game developer, entrepreneur and private astronaut. Although both his parents were American, he maintains dual British and American citizenship by birth.
Garriott, who is the son of NASA astronaut Owen Garriott, was originally a game designer and programmer, and is now involved in a number of aspects of computer-game development. On October 12, 2008, Garriott flew aboard the Soyuz TMA-13 mission to the International Space Station as a space tourist,[3][4] returning 12 days later aboard Soyuz TMA-12. He became the second space traveler, and first from the United States, to have a parent who was also a space traveler. During his ISS flight, he filmed a science fiction movie Apogee of Fear.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IYDb6K5UF8
So, Richard Garriott hasn't been to space?
LOL. Of all the things he is; he does not list comedian.
https://twitter.com/richardgarriott
Richard Garriott
@RichardGarriott President @ExplorersClub ; a Videogame Industry Founding Father; Astronaut, Aquanaut, Polar Explorer;
KEK!
You could be civil. It is on the side.
Still waiting for the day we can talk about all truths
A lot of us here, fren!
Exactly. My opinion can change in an instant due to new information. It all depends on where you've gotten your information to change that said opinion
There’s always the chance that Musk didn’t flip-flop or change his mind, and he always knew the vaxx is diarrhea. Many of us knew it right away, and Musk is supposed to be smart. Maybe he was undercover as a vaxx dupe so that the vaxxers would be less afraid of being exposed by him.
Being "smart" doesn't automatically mean you can detect bullshit. Trump claims to be "very smart" yet he banned bumpstocks and touted the vax.
That brings up another issue: why does Trump get a pass and Elon doesn't?
Trump was undercover too
He knew we wouldn't be taking a shot no matter what he said. This was for normies who were getting the shots anyway. Just optics.
Bump stocks don't accomplish anything. "Spray and pray" just wastes ammo without hitting much. One shot at a time to single identifiable targets is more efficient. There are videos online on how to simulate the effect of a bump stock. It was an easy target and had nothing to do with limiting gun ownership or use.
Point being, he has learned things through the files he didn't know before.
Pray the rest who vaxxed have the same learning.
I used to think of my autism as a curse. No point in that now, I've made it this far with the help of my second wife. Trust me, it was no picnic. I am near 100% certain that the vaccines I was administered had something to do with it, but what is even more revealing is that my mother had taken small doses of thalidomide to combat her cancer. I have had health screenings and such, but I don't get them very often because I do not trust the medical profession, and so far they haven't determined any other ill effects ither than stammering, stuttering, and autism, i.e. no physiological defects. That really doesn't matter - I'll die when I die. However, had I known things earlier in my life it may have made a difference, or at least alleviated some of the trauma.
It's all good now, though. I actually consider myself one of the lucky ones, and have put all the emotional, physical, mental and sexual abuse behind me. I could have gone after the Catholic Church for what they did, but all the money in the world won't erase the memories. That's up to me.
I've read that colloidal silver can help with clearing metal toxins such as those in injection adjuvants. Suramin also has been brought up by Dr Judy Mikovits as potential treatment for autism disorder.
Good to know. It used to be much worse, but with my wife's help I was able to bring it under control. I don't know if it would do any good to eradicate it now, but that's okay. I know where the monster in the closet is hiding and have kept it at bay, and besides, I have about 10-15 years left anyway.
God bless you, fren, and your devoted wife too. Prayers and fraternal love.
My wife and I were pro-vaccine during the early years of our children's lives. We kept all their vaccines up-to-date (unfortunately). We experienced, what we are convinced, was vaccine damage in a couple of our children who are now in their 20's & 30's. We started researching over the last 10 years and became convinced that for the most part vaccines were doing more harm than good. I'm 70 years old now - in my day we got 2 or 3 vaccines. Today I believe the "recommended" number of jabs is over 60 - insane. Look at the autism rate today as compared to my day (50's/60's). 1 in 32 (or so) children now have some sort of autism. When the scamdemic hit we were already educated - none of us (7) got the clot shot! We did all get the dreaded covid in July 2020. With the help of supplements, sunshine & clean living we all got over it. Not one hospital or doctors visit - no prescription drugs. My point is: people have and DO change assuming they have an open mind and are capable of critical thinking. (End of Rant)
Thanks for bringing your experience here. You should consider posting once in a while. We can always use more life experiences so we are not doomed to repeat what already failed.
I'm a generation behind you and I believe we had between 6 and 12 recommended vaccines when I grew up. After that I believe is when the autism diagnoses started showing up, and coincidentally (...) the number of recommended vaxxes started to rise.
If you chart the # of recommended vaccines over time and compare it to the autism rate there appears to be a correlation. Autism rate goes up with the # of vaccines. At any rate something is causing this alarming rate of autism in the current generation. For us, we went from following the vaccine schedule when our children were young to convincing them not to vaccinate our future grandchildren (assuming God blesses us with some).
I just went through that with our (new) first grandchild. Fortunately our daughter and son-in-law agree about vaccines and my daughter is watching like a hawk to make sure nobody tries to sneak anything in during any pediatrician appointments.
We were lucky - we got an early granddaughter. I'm not sure my older daughter will even be able to when she wants a kid. She is a teacher and no matter what we told her she hasn't met a booster she doesn't like. She left our house a conservative, went to school and managed to make it out at least as a moderate, but now all her friends are lefties. I'm still trying to get her back to being conservative again but it is hard to do when she lives across the country from me. Time will tell.
Just curious, what makes you so sure that when you all got sick, it was actually "covid"?
Excellent point! And I stand corrected. We didn't know really what was causing our illness. We all fell ill - one after the other. We never got "tested". By that time I concluded that the PCR tests were bogus. Whatever we had it was a strange illness. I was 68 at the time. I should have put " " marks around the word "covid"! There I fixed it.
“Smartest man in the world” used to donate to the Clinton’s. I knew a girl in high school who was valedictorian, book smarts dripping out her ears. 4.0, could learn new languages in a week, aced every test, and she couldn’t drive across the parking lot without getting lost. Total savant. Intelligence is not universal, nor is it translatable to all aspects of existence. Elon self reported that he took the shot. That’s deep deep cover in order to not get kicked off Twitter. OR, Elon was also fooled like millions of others. Don’t sell yourself short if you knew there was something way wrong with the whole Covid situation. Very successful intelligent people took the bait hook line and sinker. Purebloods are a unique and valuable individual.
This. So much this. The mockingbird propaganda is fucking strong. We need to realize and accept that we could have been fooled the same. Then we can start healing the divide.
There are many kinds of intelligence, such as memorization, body smarts, art, writing, math, etc... And none of them equate to wisdom, critical thought, or independent spirit.
Indoctrination has programmed the populace to accept white coat/ivory tower words over direct experience and common sense; to doubt reason in favor of proclamations, to abdicate thinking for oneself.
The science was never unequivocal. Never. In fact, the science was shouting NO!
What was he looking at? Big pharma marketing pamphlets? Sheesh.
If I had to guess, I'd say this entire thing was a giant red pill for Elon. Accepting that the MSM is nothing but a propaganda machine controlled by various 3 lettered entities is a hard pill for many to swallow. Some of the smartest people I know IRL refuse to acknowledge that. Whats clear to us, is muddy as hell for many others.
The math alone said something was damn wrong with all of it. It all added up to a scam, and nothing more.
Why you’re consider wise when you’re older, because you’ve learned and expanded your mind.
Yeah except this isn't a law for existence. I know a lot of old people whose "wisdom" is mistaken for arrogance.
Define: Tactical Cloaking
Define: Fifth Generation Warfare
Does Fifth Generation Warfare necessitate the use of Tactical Cloaking in order to preserve one's ability to remain on the battlefield?
I don’t buy this at all. There was no incentive for Elon to go out of his way to parrot the narrative. Tactical cloaking is meant to hide the presence of something. What did he need to hide that he couldn’t have just kept quiet about. No, Elon, who self reportedly took the vaccine, was also duped. Intelligence isn’t equally compartmentalized across a person’s consciousness. We all have blind spots. I believe that spacex and Tesla had vaccine mandate requirements for more than a little while. Your logic is highly flawed for me, what am I not seeing?
People do grow, learn, educate themselves and so develop differing opinions about some things. Time changes us all regardless of our intellectual fulfillment at any moment in time.
So musk is growing, maybe. Or he is LARPing, maybe, or he could be a deep cover actor emerging to play whatever role was the intent of said cover, maybe.
Right now we should watch his show, we do not have to trust him or invest in him or place our hopes in him, just watch. See if his actions over Time define any purpose - right now he appears to stumble around, yin and yang, completely out of phase diametrically opposing stances on things.
So watch, let him prove himself one way or the other, don't sit close enough to be splashed with it tho.
“Feign disorder, and crush your enemy”. For me it’s more about what does, and doesn’t get revealed on the Twitter files, and what happens in the background when the spotlight is on musk and Twitter.
Will the lame duck house vote to give themselves immunity while the spotlight is on things that happened two years ago?
"Smartest" man on the planet flops opinions on the clot shot in 18 months time. From "the science is unequivocal " to "Prosecute/Fauci" and he did it because "everyone is allowed to change their opinions"...lol yeah right ok.
Good point. Do you think Elon is on the dark side or the light?
I personally think he is a bad dude that's been forced to switch sides for the good and maybe the Twitter purchase was done by someone else with elon as the talking head. Before, the left as a whole loved him...what better way to make them acknowledge the truth.
I just think he was all “tRuSt tHE sCIeNce” like alot of people were. Highly educated doesn’t mean smartest guy in the room. It’s usually the opposite. He was fooled. Dumbest people Ive ever worked for were usually the most educated and wealthy.
Almost as if the “facts” can be falsified for the right price … Science (tm)
I think the numbers of likes, retweets and quote tweets between the two are very telling.
I don’t like that he said the science is unequivocal. Most people have done zero research on the science. That includes most healthcare professionals although they have a very strong opinion on the vaccine but I’ve done none of the groundwork to actually look at the data. Keeping in mind that no data was available when these were rolled out.
Data was absolutely available. The validity of the data should be questioned, but mortality of Covid infections showed less than .2% less than 6 months into the lockdowns/mandates.
Many studies conducted on masks, and ivermectin were available before Covid even “existed”. Making claims like this is so counterproductive.
The data for the vaccines were not all released. I work in healthcare I saw blank package inserts….shhhhh
That in itself is a dataset. We can say with certianty, “the side effects, the ingredients, and long term effects of the mRNA Covid shots were intentionally with held by the medical industrial complex”. That is a pretty definitive dataset in my mind.
I’m nit sure why you want to argue with me since we basically agree
There’s something that I see that you seem not to. Not arguing. Just describing my perspective. And want to find a reason why I’m wrong. So far, my ideas seem to not be discountable.
What are we baffled about? Elons intentions? I’m not baffled, I see two possible motivations, and time will tell as actions will reveal his intentions.
Good point. The “why” aspect of your question to me, means that anons here have taken stock of elons parents, their pictures in MSM, Elon’s costumes at Halloween, his association with the DOD through spacex govt contracts, and they wonder if there’s a chance that Elon is playing a part and setting up a play for the black hats.
How to see a red-pill without actually seeing a red-pill... LOL
I agree with that guy who was interviewed by Kerry Cassidy regarding Project Looking Glass. He said that during his time in the military and due to his intelligence, he was asked to look at what Looking Glass was spitting out regarding the convergence of different timelines. All the timelines fed to into Looking Glass came up with the same result and the result (which was kept from this individual doing the work) terrified the elite. His best guess, according to what he told Kerry was that no matter what timeline was fed into Looking Glass it always led to a mass Great Awakening. It seems that Looking Glass was correct...?
I know its shocking to people but people are strategic and lie during war time periods.
Only took 8 months.
How about this:
Why do you put more importance on one statement over the other?
Is it an agenda?
That infernal need to be right about something?
I supported McCain and Romney. Very upset that I did.
My pronouns are FLAY/JOEBIDEN.
The buck stops at his desk.
Seems like what’s in the files is damning enough to flip an honest man like that 🫰.
Edit: well, that, and/or the weaselly malfeasance of Fauci and his partners-in-crime, and the total and tragic failure of the “vaccine”, over the last year and a half… plus now witnessing the Twitter files to see the obscenely illegal manner in which this attack on our country was carried out.