If I was Gaetz and the 7 or so holdouts, I would sign a pact, hand deliver to Kevin. It should say on the 13th vote, Kevin needs to nominate someone else for all of us to vote on. Or we the seven will vote for Jefferies. We have nothing to lose, they are the same!
That is the most retarded idea I've ever heard. It would be a lose all the way around for Gaetz and the other hold-outs.
Either Kevin calls their bluff and they don't do it, so they won't ever be taken seriously going forward.
Or Kevin calls their bluff and they do do it, and they wouldn't have a chance in hell at standing for reelection. That is the kind of thing that is incredibly easy to tell republican voters about in a negative way, and incredibly difficult to explain to them why it was actually a good move. Then what's left of MAGA would be totally dead.
And if Jeffries gets elected, what does Kevin actually lose? For him, it means ending MAGA, which is exactly what he wants.
Someone needs to Remind the Republican'ts that it was BOTH MAGA AND America First that put them there, and that we don't want McCarthy, so if they want to have JOBS in the 119th Congress, they'll keep him out....
You are probably right, I am just so disgusted with most of our representatives. It seems no matter what, we lose just a little bit more.I think I might refrain from now on, saying much. I appreciate the whole lot of you guys, but sometimes my Irish temper kicks in. Have a great weekend! Jeff
The problem with being on the defensive is that you will eventually lose if you do not have a plan to be at the attackers.
If there is one thing I must criticize the 20 reps on is that they don't seem to have a plan other than to plant their feet on the ground and say no. If they don't like McCarthy that much, they probably should've a substitute selected and prepped long before this week. They went through two different candidates and are on their number 3. That tells me that they haven't really done their homework.
Isn't it crazy how unwaivering the rest of the so-called republican representatives are? Besides the 20 or so hold-outs, they didn't even try to throw a name out there to fish with. It was McCarthy every time. As if nobody else could possibly do the job.
What you say could very well be fact. But here is the thing. It would not matter if those 20 nominated moolack or what ever the left worship as a god. The left will plant their feet and force those who oppose thwm to change. The swamp is strong. I am sure these 20 did their homework and there is an alterate reasoning behind what they are doing. Maybe stalling for some unknown reason. After all, it is just 20 of them going against the swamp.
What? He had just lost again when I said that, and shit ton has happened since then. Are you seriously replying that way to this now that we neutered the guy?
Only McCarthy and Jeffries are nominated. This is likely it. The Patriots got as much as they could and McCarthy will likely be speaker.
If the Patriots pushed any harder the left would vote for McCarthy just to make him win and they would likely have side rules instead of the Patriots.
Probably as far as negotiations can be pushed. The real work of the Patriots will be once the Congressional session starts and they have demonstrated they have power.
As I type, Biggs and Boebert stayed with Jordan. If 5 do, it could still be interesting...
Hmmm... is that why PDJT endorsed him? Did we need this to drag out for some reason we are unaware of? If this is a partial movie and some or all dems aren't in on it, maybe we needed to guarantee no dem would vote for Mccarthy.
Yup, the Hold Outs should've thrown their Votes behind someone, anyone except him, in order to Vote Against him, but nope, they voted """Present,"" which is the same as voting For him....
If I was Gaetz and the 7 or so holdouts, I would sign a pact, hand deliver to Kevin. It should say on the 13th vote, Kevin needs to nominate someone else for all of us to vote on. Or we the seven will vote for Jefferies. We have nothing to lose, they are the same!
Update, 13th vote and Kevin still lost.
Meanwhile Ashli Babbitt's mom just got arrested outside the Capitol for peacefully matching for her murdered daughter.
They should nominate the mom for one vote.
Wow how long will this go on, any bets? This alone will make him ineffectual as a speaker.
They just adjourned because lack of speaker is the biggest calamity on weekdays only.
Haha! Too bloody right! Just more proof that everything in Congress is political theatre.🙄
Lets see maybe 17 times?
That is the most retarded idea I've ever heard. It would be a lose all the way around for Gaetz and the other hold-outs.
Either Kevin calls their bluff and they don't do it, so they won't ever be taken seriously going forward.
Or Kevin calls their bluff and they do do it, and they wouldn't have a chance in hell at standing for reelection. That is the kind of thing that is incredibly easy to tell republican voters about in a negative way, and incredibly difficult to explain to them why it was actually a good move. Then what's left of MAGA would be totally dead.
And if Jeffries gets elected, what does Kevin actually lose? For him, it means ending MAGA, which is exactly what he wants.
Someone needs to Remind the Republican'ts that it was BOTH MAGA AND America First that put them there, and that we don't want McCarthy, so if they want to have JOBS in the 119th Congress, they'll keep him out....
You are probably right, I am just so disgusted with most of our representatives. It seems no matter what, we lose just a little bit more.I think I might refrain from now on, saying much. I appreciate the whole lot of you guys, but sometimes my Irish temper kicks in. Have a great weekend! Jeff
Can’t blame you pede. It’s trying times. Carry on
Well, it’s easy to identify the 213 RINOs in Congress.
He is gonna win isnt he
Lies are being swallowed.
Delicious lies
The problem with being on the defensive is that you will eventually lose if you do not have a plan to be at the attackers.
If there is one thing I must criticize the 20 reps on is that they don't seem to have a plan other than to plant their feet on the ground and say no. If they don't like McCarthy that much, they probably should've a substitute selected and prepped long before this week. They went through two different candidates and are on their number 3. That tells me that they haven't really done their homework.
By presenting many different options, aren’t they showing MORE flexibility?
Or they'll just persist until he caves in to their demands. They hold the big end of the stick.
Isn't it crazy how unwaivering the rest of the so-called republican representatives are? Besides the 20 or so hold-outs, they didn't even try to throw a name out there to fish with. It was McCarthy every time. As if nobody else could possibly do the job.
What you say could very well be fact. But here is the thing. It would not matter if those 20 nominated moolack or what ever the left worship as a god. The left will plant their feet and force those who oppose thwm to change. The swamp is strong. I am sure these 20 did their homework and there is an alterate reasoning behind what they are doing. Maybe stalling for some unknown reason. After all, it is just 20 of them going against the swamp.
Maybe the only plan has been for DJT to say, “You get the carrot when I say so, not a minute sooner.”
He was always gonna win lol
That, or a dem
Didn’t he just fail again?
...You were saying?
What? He had just lost again when I said that, and shit ton has happened since then. Are you seriously replying that way to this now that we neutered the guy?
So Matt Gaetz didn't vote for Trump this time? Did he vote for McCarthy or no one?
Jordan, 2x now
Only McCarthy and Jeffries are nominated. This is likely it. The Patriots got as much as they could and McCarthy will likely be speaker.
If the Patriots pushed any harder the left would vote for McCarthy just to make him win and they would likely have side rules instead of the Patriots.
Probably as far as negotiations can be pushed. The real work of the Patriots will be once the Congressional session starts and they have demonstrated they have power.
As I type, Biggs and Boebert stayed with Jordan. If 5 do, it could still be interesting...
Dems will never vote for someone endorsed by Trump
Hmmm... is that why PDJT endorsed him? Did we need this to drag out for some reason we are unaware of? If this is a partial movie and some or all dems aren't in on it, maybe we needed to guarantee no dem would vote for Mccarthy.
They can't form commities so there is no Intel being known by anyone in the house. Imagine what can be done if there isnt anyone looking.
Imagine what Congress cannot DO since they cannot look to see what to screw up next....
As for what can be done, I know for the Military, it's just business as usual....
But the BAR for how long this can go on has been set at 133 tries, Two Months....
https://patriots.win/p/16ZqYympvV/in-1856-it-took-two-months-and-1/c/
Saying "I know" for anything is only fooling oneself.
Yes they did. https://twitter.com/i/status/1610828430425063426
And, boom, there's the 5th non-McCarthy vote.
He looks maaaaaaaaaaad. :)
Sure would be fun if the votes start slipping away from him again.
There is a possibility that dems could vote McCarthy and swing this quickly. A bit of a game of chicken.
Yahmebbe.
But even if that happens... McCarthy is the Speaker of the House without a majority, and he's dependent upon Dems to get his agenda passed.
Which is just fine for the Deep State since they own both sides, but it's kind of hanging McCarthy out to dry. Cue sad violin music. :)
He's dependent upon dems to get his agenda passed.
Literally not hard since it's the same agenda. Spend a lot of money, send a lot of money to Ukraine, that's about it.
Doing what they do best...caving!
got em with the blackmail again
Yep no doubt. Dirty, stinking, rotten.
It failed.
What are the negotiations? If reps are switching their vote, what have they worked out? Will we know or is it secret?
This is what I wanna know!
Its for seats on Committees. https://twitter.com/i/status/1610828430425063426
Why not just nominate Zelenski at this point? The outcome is the same.
Funny how this reads like a Babylon Bee headline.
13th vote now and only 5 from Jordan so far.
The spotlight on what’s clearly a broken system is invaluable.
It's going to go to 17 rounds and then McCarthy will be elected.
On to the 14th Vote now....
IF I were there, I'd pull together the first 20, and seriously have them each put forward a different Candidate....
And even the Six holdouts could do this, just to screw everything up....
Maybe put up a DemonRat just as a joke, to mess with them too....
They are on the 15th ballot now lol
Yup, the Hold Outs should've thrown their Votes behind someone, anyone except him, in order to Vote Against him, but nope, they voted """Present,"" which is the same as voting For him....
What happened to the Gaetz, Trump nomination?
I wonder if there will be 17 rounds of voting lol. Maybe Trump should be nominated??
What are the rules for this, how many times can they vote?
Wasn’t it in like 1850’s it went 133 rounds….so awhile
Dems are united! KEK
So wait, did we go from 20 voting against McCarthy to just 6? Or am I misunderstanding?
Now 4