Does the deep state really want to have a war with Russia?
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Are they that desperate to get their new financial system in place? Is Russia the only thing standing in their way?
What I think is this: Russia has had a very long time to plan out a way to defeat NATO and I think they are fully capable of doing so. At the very least, they know they are in the right and that's a powerful thing to have in your heart irregardless of what your physical capabilities are.
Maybe when Q said that the "military is the only way," he/she meant the Russian Military. One thing's for sure, the optics do not favor the US military, especially when it comes to the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
I had that same thought. I also think it's interesting that the at the same time Russia is using their military to take down the deep state, our military is completely neutered with wokeism and terrible recruitment and a mass exodus of the best of the best due to vaccine mandates. Was this possibly part of the plan? Maybe, even to just let it happen? We sure as hell can't take on a WW3 now.
Few of us talk about India backing Russia, but I remember that incredible reception Trump got when he went to India and was making plans behind the scenes with them. India is a big deal economically.
The news is fake. The war is real. -Q I wouldn’t buy too much into that bullshit about our military.
Fair point. That's crossed my mind, as well. I've said to people close to me that the trans military "leaders" we see on TV are just for show.
However, the military we've had before wasn't made to defend us, it was to police the world in order to maintain the petrodollar, which in turn funded the bloated military industrial complex. If anyone stepped out of line (Gaddafi, Saddam...etc), we took them out.
The kind of military we need in this new age will look quite different, I suspect. I say that not only because the deep state will be rooted out, but because conventional weaponry is becoming obsolete faster and faster. Consider, we're in a massive war right now and it's of the 5th gen variety. It's an information war. Kinetic wars are suicidal now.
Honestly, without a deep state, how many wars would we be in for past 100 years? Our enemy has always been the deep state.
There is a true military working behind the scenes.
Yeah maybe their plan is to hold them off until Trump is back in power & then combined they will take down the cabal
There is something about Presidents Trump, Putin, and a soccer ball. But my favorite is President Trump being given the right to enter China's forbidden city. Of course there is also the sward dance in Saudi Arabia.
didn't bush the stupid get one too?
I was in Baghdad when Gen Lloyd Austin was HMFIC... there were rumors swirling then he was embezzling $8million into his personal offshore accounts by solid sources. I never liked or trusted him after that. Now he's telling us our military is strong.... POS!!
Appears that "was supposed to" is a key phrase in the current comments. Perhaps it has been forgot that Russia allied with Trump at the Finland conferences, and that the intel Russia has on the cabal was handed to the Trump crew over a period of weeks. At that point, Putin was no longer alone in his fight against the cabal. Also remember the Trump/Xi meetings; after the first, Xi had his interpreter executed, indicating he knew she was misinterpreting Trump - which also implies that Xi is fluent in English, as is Putin. Further down the line, remember that Xi/Trump effectively disassembled the money powers (aka CCP) in China; the 'Ever - whatevers are effectively no longer extant, or control removed from Evergreen/Clinton Foundation.
Remember also that Trumps meet with Kim yielded the removal of the puppet generals and freed NK from the grip of the cabal. Remember that at the onset of the Ukr operation, China sent troops to reinforce the southern exposure in Serbia; I've seen nothing indicating they were removed. Keep in mind also that the shipments of war materials from the US never arrived in Europe; when asked, the trackers stated the materials "disappeared down a black hole" in transit. That implies a different power at work than the US 'govt'. Joe bidan took the blame for the pipeline breach. bidan didn't do that, those behind Trump did. I say that because a) the pentagon is NOT in the chain of command - that is the individual commandants of the theaters. Since bidan and the current 'administration' is NOT the CiC, it must be Trump. That being the case, the pipeline was breached not to hurt Russia (which it couldn't anyway), but to hurt the EU. Disrupting the supply lines effectively cuts the tendons of NATO, obviously. That indicates that the act was to further weaken the EU/NATO/UN. The weak attempt to hamper Russian economics (spearheaded by NATO) was a failure; I suspect Putin knew well what they planned, and immediately went to gold backing. Make note: after Putin set the ruble's quantity of gold, both China and India approved alliance within weeks (the beginning of BICS). That further weakens the EU's economy, since anything purchased from Russia must be in rubles. Last I heard from Ukr was that their weapons supply is nearly finished; Russian new states that Wagner is the fighting force now, and Russian troops aren't doing much at the moment. Wagner is a Russian private army, similar to Blackwater.
It is very easy to say with confidence that NATO doesn't have a chance, should they decide to wage war or resist a Russian advance into Europe (Putin DID state that Russia might need to chase the nazis into Europe, remember?). With wat appears to be massive protests going on all over Europe, it is obvious the various govts don't have the support of their people. The only real option is a limited power nuke such as a field tactical nuke set off in Ukr as a false flag to scare the shit out of everyone. Personally, since I grew up with the idiots telling me to hide under my school desk and managed to live through flyin a bigass helo around in North Vietnam, I can't claim to be concerned. But it would provide a nice platform for Trump to become the overt pres again, and I do look forward to that. But a nuke world war? Nah.
Nine of this makes sense unless you consider what we call "Cabal" as factions of powerful groups, each with their own agenda. By the end of 90s somehow miraculously all their agendas seemed to match together into the one world bio control system with CBDC end game. So they have been working together (in their own way) up until now.
The way these factions work is that they constantly make sure they have balances against each others' assets. Japan vs Korea vs China is a great example.
Russia was supposed to start the war with Ukraine and provide a means for the Banksters to balance their books, but ultimately they were going to be the scapegoats for the nuclear false flag. China was never supposed to have colluded with Russia and India. China was supposed to be the new financial vessel after US dollar was destroyed.
So the answer to your question "Did the deep state really want a war with Russia" comes in multiple layers, but the one we are seeing / going to see soon is a completely different layer.
This needs to be beaten, with the liberal use of a baseball bat, into the brain of everyone on this forum. So many people do not understand this, and Q team was admittedly not a big help in this regard.
The entire Q plan revolves around getting factions to fight each other. Q hinted them a couple times but he couldn't lay it out without tipping off the enemy.
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Trump himself is aligned with one of the factions ("Saving Israel for last") and will only backstab them, presumably, at the very edge of the precipice.
This. Especially when you see a major player roll into your town after a disaster and see the entourage of security. Like a freaking movie.
Masons, Brotherhood of Christ, Vatican, Zionist Jews, Marxist, Nazis, Globalist Jews who don’t believe in the one Jewish state goal of Zionism as the world capital.
These are the factions playing chess with the world. Some of them align temporarily and others break away alliances when they have full control of the sheep, and turn on each other. They all do how ever ultimately follow the same Group Soul master. They are allowed to compete for control so long as they make this a negative polarity planet for humanity.
Yes. They do. The Cabal wants their mass sacrifices. Since Covid vaxx has failed at the correct numbers they wanted, in the 1-2 billion at this point, war is the next part of the plan. Luckily war won’t happen on a mass scale.
Why would I state such? Because NATO wants to attack Russia while having China fund the NWO, while the U.S. and Davos lead. With China stating it will back Russia hands down, it now causes a mass disruption in war plans. Going to war against thee two largest armies in the world, one with All of and possibly in back-door control of all US technological weapons (China), is suicide, even for the Cabal.
Its also their escape hatch for when society realizes how fucked up shit has gotten
I concur.
Yes. This would not be the first central bank reset. WW2 was also one, as well, and by going to the Petro Dollar we avoided a WW2-style reset as well.
The DS is already at war with Russia. China will be next with Taiwan. There will be a threeway nuclear standoff between Russia, China, and USA. Trump will resolve it peacefully.
March or October?
I would love to say March, but October is more realistic. With China being blamed for the Wuhan lab leak, I'm waiting on Russia to announce US Biolabs in Ukraine and Taiwan.
Man I try to imagine if they can string this out eight more months. I guess they can, they have kept it going this long but I just don’t know if I can take that much more.
I have wondered for a long time if war was the real goal or just the scary thought of war as a threat. But they HAVE to keep Trump out of office in order to complete their plans and I don't see anything besides full out war being able to accomplish that.
no they just want to launder money in ukraine. how is that not obvious
Their financial plan is probably total shit and the only way to deploy it is if no one has a choice. With Russia and the other nations creating their own system, a shitty system of control will have competition and fail.
Many may not know this, but Russia is a long time Ally of the United States. During the Civil War, both England and France were ordered by the Central Banks to invade the North and the South ( Banking control to two Rothchildes after invasion.) But the Czar of Russia had ordered his fleet to NYC which was a powerful navy and could have easily handled them. Fast forward to 1917, relations were permanently ceased as ordered by the Central Banks.
It's not animosity towards western nations, but rather the Central Banks who control them.
A well presented documentary as evidence:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfEBupAeo4
I don't know this - what are the extra powers afforded to Biden if he gets congress to declare war? Does that allow him to postpone or suspend a 2024 election? Other powers? I know that with his emergency covid declarations he has unfettered spending powers.... or at least acts like he does.
I am not sure of any special powers any President has in time of war, but Presidential elections still went ahead as planned during other war operations. The most notable are the elections of 1864 and 1944. In both cases the incumbent won reelection.
I think that the US dollar and financial system are on the verge of collapse. Once that happens, everything is exposed. They will do anything to distract from this.
What do you suppose will happen to life insurance policy payouts in the U.S, should the dollar go Full Weimar?
Well, this is just my guess, but it will probably be a crazy scenario where even though the dollar is losing value and inflation is on everyone’s radar, when the market crashes there will be a period where cash is king. People’s interest payments will skyrocket and they’ll get desperate to pay bills and many will be fire-saleing their assists to stay afloat. Those that do have extra money will push to convert to gold and silver and bullion will skyrocket. It won’t take too long for them to start running the dollar printing presses at this time and things will then really start to spiral and the dollar will lose value by the day. In about 4 years I suspect a loaf of bread will cost thousands of dollars (unless there is a plan to save us).
As far as life insurance goes, I don’t think we’re too far away from the insurance companies announcing that they won’t payout it insure anyone who took an experimental treatment (vax). They can’t afford all of these payouts and it will be a matter of survival to enforce that aspect of the policy. They’re seeing the excess deaths now but are playing nice with payouts because they don’t want to be the ones to trigger mass panic.
If you’re not vaccinated I suspect your insurance will pay out. A million dollar policy will do pretty well over the next year or two, particularly in the period people are scrambling for cash and everything is selling at a discount. In a couple years, after inflation really hits, you’ll probably still get your payout but I suspect a million dollars won’t go very far.
Yea that's what I was thinking. Seems in order to stay relevant they would have to guarantee payments in "the most secure currency available at the time of payout."
America has been on was since like 2000...
Once again, but in English....
I believe they do. It's the only way then have left now... either way they're finished/dead....
Russia keeps everything, they have stockpiles of munitions going back 80 years.
War with other super powers really doesn't benefit them as much as they think, if so.
They've spent a lot of time destroying the lives and oppressing the livelihoods of good people that during a war with a superpower, the amount of in fighting within all of their safe spaces will inevitably hit them hard and they won't be safe from it.
I think they just want to push as far as they can without hitting the point where they lose.. possibly as a limit test to see how far they can push the population relative to their goals.
well, there's an old bit of leftover strategy from WWII that says to keep russia and germany from joining forces. I don't know all the details, but apparently there's a concern that russia's number's/resources and germany's tech prowess could be a problem if we had to face both at the same time.
again, I don't know the details, but that's what's supposedly the big concern =/
As far as we pay for this war and they profit from it - the short answer is: yes.
You cannot win an existential war with a country that has a cutting edge nuclear arsenal and delivery system.
It seems things arnt as one dimensional as country VS country or country VS deep state. Russia may be like the rest of us an entity fighting for its own freedom. We know the deep state is heavily invested in the military industrial complex and I'd imagine they don't mind being on both sides of conflicts if it's to achieve a great goal. Russia being the hero would be great but I feel they are just as infested.
If enough of them have deep enough bunkers with enough food and water and they can agree?
Yes, we will see the end of the world as we know it.
It seems many people are putting too much faith in Putin. Some Russians can tell you in detail how Putin appeared basically out of nowhere. They believe he was installed. The photos of Putin sharing a table with Schwab only solidify what they already saw unfold.
You must have missed Putin handing Trump the soccer ball. And you haven’t done your research on Putin and what he thinks/believes about Russia and the Russian people.