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What's the REAL reason they removed lead from paint? Found this video and instantly thought of you guys. (files.catbox.moe) šŸ—£ļø DISCUSSION šŸ’¬
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– Bully_Solution 24 points 2 years ago +24 / -0

His last statement about grounding rang true with me. I recently purchased a grounding mat for my bed. Within a week (less) I was remembering dreams like I did back when I was a kid and sleeping better.

Now I get to experiment with my dreams. Glad I bought it.

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– Huskereyez 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Never heard of a grounding mat but I’m definitely looking into that. Very cool. Recommendations?

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– PaintingTruth17 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

https://hoogahealth.com/

A Very good U.S. based company that stands behind their products and has excellent comms. U can buy mouse pads, mats, sheets, socks, etc. If you're broke or a just a chump then go outside and put bare feet to grass.

Their products work. I have bought a lot of stuff from them from grounding products to red lights. All worth it. U can use a standard multimeter to test them or they sell their own testers to confirm they are working correctly.

We are around so many electronics, waves of this and that nowadays I think they are a must. We noticed better sleep from the mats right off the bat. Do any research anywhere with red light therapy and u will see overwhelming people have had a plethora of positive results as well. Like with many things though, u get what u pay for. If u buy bottom of the barrel don't expect top results.

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– Bully_Solution 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Not really. I have read about grounding for years and just pulled the trigger a few weeks ago. This is what I bought but as usual do your own research.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CR6HKPYC?th=1

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– winn 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

since we're going full-blown woo with this post (kek) may I present a question in that vein:

if you are routing your body's grounding through your home's electrical circuit (by plugging that mat into the wall), which are linked to the smart meter or whatever other devices which can MODULATE electrical currents (think any smart devices you own?), would that not be more risky than tying a ground wire to your body and putting it out the window directly into the ground? Otherwise it seems you would only be subjecting your body to an even more direct vector of attack??

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– -wwg1wga- 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

This is more or less correct. I ran a separate ground spike outside. Basically there is interference on the ground spike that is tied in with your electrical system.

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– winn 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I meant interference by plugging it into the wall outlet but that's also interesting. Close proximity to something or long wire?

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– -wwg1wga- 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Yea the wall outlet ground ties to the rest of your homes electrical, so there is interference on that ground line. The ideal way to run your grounding mat is to run a line to a separate grounding spike that is dedicated for your grounding mat.

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– Bully_Solution 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

As far as I am aware, electrical ground is exactly that and there is no modulation.

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– winn 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

so there's zero interaction between the live wire and the ground possible?

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– Greekish 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

Any wire can have its current modulated, i.e. an induced signal. The longer the wire, the more likely it is to be affected by modulation. And any wire running parallel to another wire that has modulated current will itself pick up a modulated current (= signal).

To sum up: keep your grounding wire as short as possible and keep it well away from other wires. Also for safety sake you should connect a resistor between you and the grounding wire; I'd suggest at least 470 kilo-ohms.

(I have a degree in electronic engineering.)

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– Hodar 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Nicely stated. And the isolation resistor is a good (and safe) idea that should always be used. The 470K ohm should bleed off current safely. That specific value may vary with opinion, but it's a good safe value to work from.

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– winn 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Damn, I got close with that hunch kek

o7 sir

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– fastwalker 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Interesting. I've been wanting to get one of these

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– Huskereyez 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Thanks so much fren!!

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– BetterNameUnfound [S] 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

That's an interesting idea, but I could never do it--for one, I turn a lot in bed before falling asleep.

It's hard for me to sleep with a shirt on for this reason--it gets all twisted.

Maybe I need to flip my mattress...

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– aryaba 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Walk barefoot on green grass and moist earth.

We used to LIVE this way, now we wear rubber soled shoes all day long when we're outside the house.

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– BetterNameUnfound [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Tried. Ants.

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– JackieDaytona74 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

I'll ask as well, what kind did you buy? A lot of these mats out there and would love to know what you bought, especially since it seems to be working.

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– Bully_Solution 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CR6HKPYC?th=1

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– JackieDaytona74 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Thanks man :)

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– gobby 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Interesting! I recently heard about grounding sheets. I think it's just the bottom, fitted sheet. Is your mat different from that?

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– Bully_Solution 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

It goes under the bottom sheet.

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– PaintingTruth17 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Yes, but less effect. Multimeter tests will show you this. Bare skin to any grounding product is where to find best results.

They forced rubber shoes onto us for a reason. They want to severe any connection to anything good in our lives.

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– gobby 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Hmm. Okay, so it sounds like a person could use either the mat, or the sheet. I wonder what would happen if you used both. Ha!

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– Pbman2 11 points 2 years ago +11 / -0

I don't buy it. Lead dust was the hazard, not paint chips. Children play on the floor a lot and put their fingers and toys in their mouth all the time.

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– JonathanE 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

That's what I thought too, especially when you come to sand an already painted surface ready to put on a new coat.

They took lead out of petrol because it was making people violent iirc. Crime went down when they removed it apparently.

Still, EMF shielding paint isn't the worst idea in the world.

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– Pbman2 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

EMF shielding paint may be very good. I don't disagree with that, I know nothing about it.

But lead paint was a real hazard.

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– winn 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

I tend to agree. Much like asbestos.

However if we could come up with a safe EMF-shielding paint, which we may already have (I have not looked) that would be ideal imo, but your cell phone service and WIFI would surely suffer. You'd have to hard-wire all your internet devices (which I recommend anyway) and go outside to get texts and calls

*one thing about the WIFI, you could probably still use it if you only paint the exterior walls of your home, it would also keep all the WIFI inside your home so people outside wouldn't pick it up.

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– Greekish 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

You can buy zinc paint for shielding purposes. It's widely used in the electronics industry. It's more effective than lead or aluminium paint.

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– winn 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Awesome, thx for the info! I assume that's safe? like if I were to sand it or something

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– Latin_Patriot_MAGA 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

For it to be harmful to health, children would have to do it for at least ten years, but at 7 or 8 years old they no longer put toys in their mouths, at 5 years old my children stopped putting toys in their mouths.

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– Pbman2 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

They can be damaged at that point, and lead is stored in the bones,it can continue to harm you for a long time after exposure.

Lead paint was removed from the market in the 70's long before 5 g was thought of. Scientists and even govt workers were honest at that time.

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– Space_Monkey 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

Scientists and even govt workers were honest at that time.

Is that the same government that mandated putting fluoride in the water because they care about our teeth so much?

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– gobby 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I wouldn't bet on it. Who killed Kennedy? The Vietnam war. The Franklin cover-up. Even further back was the whole Jeckyl Island debacle (1913) I'd be careful assuming things were better in the 'good old days.'

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– Pbman2 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

The top people were plenty evil, but the lower level people were still OK. Society was much different then.

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– Dudeman1717 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

I've heard a legend of a small town broadcast engineer that bought up all the local fcc licensing and was transmitting low power frequencies with no content. Years later, I got curious about radio, signal propagation, wavelengths and the such. It's clear that harmonic frequencies can easily interfere with the main ones and, to top it off, can do so at very low power. Just haven't clued into what that legendary engineer was blocking but there's some pretty wild theories...

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– gobby 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Wish I could talk to you more about this. It really interests me.

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– NicoleDuhtrole 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Many of the frequencies used by Rife are in the broadcast band. https://www.electroherbalism.com/Bioelectronics/FrequenciesandAnecdotes/RifeMORs.htm What is interesting is that many countries have or want to shut down AM and LW broadcasting.

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– CrockOSuds 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Any thoughts on this?

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– yldngo 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

I wonder if they have a Space Lazer Blue lead based paint for my roof... /s I mostly just line all my walls with ammo... now I'm wondering if certain blue paint with lead in it stops forest fires...

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– antiworldorder2 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

In the 1500's they discovered that the lead plates where killing people but they thought it was Tomato's, but was caused by the acid from tomatoes leaching out the lead. Some people were actually being buried alive, because some were in a temporary coma. Sorry didn't have time to watch the video. So would love too know what the real reason is?

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– LoneWulf 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

In a nutshell, lead blocks radiation, like 5G.

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– mjs001 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Some interesting etymology related to lead. In the middle ages beer was drunk from mugs made out of lead or lead-containing metal. The tradition of the wake in which the body of the deceased person was laid out for a day or two was instituted in this period to give the "deceased" time to "wake up" from their potential lead poisoning.

They started this practice because when bodies were exhumed, 1 out of 25 had claw marks on the inside of the top of the casket, indicating the occupant had been alive at some point inside the casket. As a result, strings attached to a bell were placed inside the casket so that if the buried person woke up, they could pull the string to ring the bell. Obviously, someone had to be in the cemetery at all times to hear any bell ringing. The person listening at night was said to work the "graveyard shift". And if a bell was rung, the person ringing it was a "dead ringer".

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– Greekish 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

A lot of people had claws back then?

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– Leftblindedbyhate 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Damn I believe it.

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– WestCelt 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Little Lead Toy Soldiers... etc.... get as much Lead out of your house. Always knew that was a crock. and they mostly blamed it on the lead paint in window frames of poor black children. supposedly the black kids were more "susceptible" due to a lack proper supervision.

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– CrockOSuds 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

They demonized lead paint in an era when people were sleeping on radio receivers.

Notice the small coils that serve no structural purpose.

We don't need those anymore because people carry transmitters in their pockets and go to sleep with them by their beds.

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– 15th_dimension 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

kindof tangential to the fact that led is poisonous tho

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– CrockOSuds 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Poisonous if eaten.

My laundry room is full of bottles and cans of things that are poisonous. I don't think the paint on the walls is more dangerous than those things are.

I don't drink from those cans and bottles and I make a hell of an effort to avoid licking my walls as tempting as it may be.

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– Tynyyn 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Are the pipes in you house walls old copper pipes with lead solder or PVC plastic pipes? By not drinking out of plastic bottles is admirable, but the only way to get around the contamination is to purchase bottle water in a glass. Then, how are you going to bathe? Heck, even if you have glass pipes in your house,......does the local water supply company have metal pipes, PVC, or PEX? My local water company has 2" pipes, some are metal, some are PVC. I know for a fact that the metal pipes have screw fittings, no soldering involved so that is comforting. What kills me is the PEX pipe in my walls.

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– CrockOSuds 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Have you ever been to a small lake or a pond that has a ridiculous amount of frogs? Do you remember that smell?

For some reason I can tell when a house has PEX because that's what the water smells like to me. Like a slimy, putrid, frog-infested standing water.

I don't have glass pipes in my house but I'm willing to bet a handful of pesos that my neighbor's son has some glass pipes in his room.

I have come to terms long ago that being alive may be hazardous to my health.

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– 15th_dimension 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

lead is a soft metal that disintegrates easily. touching it leaves a toxic residue on your skin.

so, there's that.

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– NicoleDuhtrole 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Does anyone expect a few millimeters of paint with 1-50% lead content to block any significant amount of radiation. To block 99% of radiation you need 3 inches of lead.

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– Greekish 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

That's true for x-ray radiation. What sort of radiation are we discussing?

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– DIAFhillary 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

I assume RF.

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– Quser17 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

This is what my older brother (boomer aged) has been saying for years. They want to be able to see what you have, including how much money you have stockpiled.

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– BetterNameUnfound [S] 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

I know lead poisoning is a real thing, but at this point, I half-expect to learn that lead isn't nearly AS toxic as we've been told...

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– DIAFhillary 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Relevant, this is the woman who found 255,000 ppm of lead in the bottom of Stanley mugs. And thousands of other products mostly from CHYNA.

https://tamararubin.com/about/

She took on the cause of childhood Lead poisoning and consumer goods safety advocacy after her sons were acutely Lead poisoned by the work of a painting contractor in 2005. Tamara lives in Portland, Oregon with her husband and two youngest sons (who each have permanent disabilities from Lead exposure as infants).

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– LessSwampMoreMAGA 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

For all those that need the conversion, 10,000 ppm = 1% so 255,000 ppm is 25.5%

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– Tynyyn 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

I went to school in the late 60's/early 70's and remembers chewing on my pencils. Heck, sometimes the LEAD in those sharpened pencils became imbedded into a student. Funny how that happens. Those kids never ever died from lead poisoning. And yes, they were filled with lead.

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– Greekish 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

Lead hasn't been used in pencils for centuries. They contain graphite (carbon) so the worst that can happen to a pencil-sucker is that they contract global warming. <gdar>

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– Tynyyn 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

I just wanted to see the reaction to my comment. Thanks for the smile.

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– ThomasMaker 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Covering walls(and roof) in metal(corrugated/trapeze, many options that still look good) will do much of the same and it is a lot lower maintenance(working on it, roof and one wall done)

This metal can also be painted with whatever paint you wish...

Ground fault switches do on occasion trip when lightning strikes too close to the house(usually still rater far away from the house) so I think I'll skip grounding my ass while I sleep...

Did however have an interesting idea the other day, what if you ground the needles used for acupuncture...................

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– Greekish 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Then you have the potential (excuse pun) for an electric shock if the person's body holds a static charge.

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– BUTERBALZ 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Gonna tie a wire to the head of my pecker and run it out the window and into the ground so it can stay grounded. That mufuker has some lofty goals that I'm not sure I can meet.

Heck maybe it will have some great dreams while it's at it.

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– RoosterHeadBad 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Swab some butter on your balz first.

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– BUTERBALZ 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Duly noted.

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– motrhed3 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

So now we should be coating our tinfoil hats with lead?

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– cc321 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I can see the hypothesis but is there facts and If they are so worried about childrens health then they need to stop the lgbtqxyz crap and sexually abusing them. I have heard of grounding for both people and gardening and freq use for both good and evil (modern music).

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– undine53 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

VERY interesting - thanks!

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– merf 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Lots of fun theories in here.

I've used lead with solder and also roofing materials and it's a very fun material to handle. Highly flexible. If one were so inclined, it wouldn't be expensive to add it to some rooms in a decorative manner, or perhaps under the siding.

https://zipmetals.com/Sheet-Lead-_c_1.html

https://www.amazon.com/KRT-Lead-Sheeting-Sheet-Rolls/dp/B01I289NKE

Might be a fun project to "secure" a room in this manner and see how it behaves.

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– HenryBowman1984 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Years ago I remember learning about in Germany they have mattresses with no inner metal springs just for this reason. And all power is shut off to the bedroom so no electric flowing around you when you sleep.

The body and brain are all electrical. Brain and thought is electromagnetic waves. Atoms are electrical neutrons, protons and electrons, none touching each other, spinning.

Hence thought is electrical impulses. And prayer/positive affirmations are electrical impulses. And electrical impulses are detected at great distances. Essentially infinite. Which is how prayer and positive affirmations work.

The movie Powder turned me onto some of these details where a boy is super sensitive to these very weak electrical fields and does some extraordinary things.

Crazy details...

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