The fact that they didn't clear and secure that roof 100 yards away with a clear line of sight is insane by itself. It should not have even been possible for someone to climb up there and set up. It's the most obvious spot for an attempt on Trump's life.
If not occupying said roof, they should at least be watching it closely. A single drone with infrared would have spotted this guy instantly.
Honestly, I could have laid out a better security plan than what they had.
Well, this was an attempted assassination so……kinda hard to make a worse security plan.
If anything, they should have made it less obvious it was an assassination attempt by picking a slightly harder/longer shot and having those responsible for the new position, get pulled last minute to a new crisis/event.
This is just blatant.
I wish the crowd of people who noticed would have charged this dude or thrown rocks or something.
If, for whatever reason, the sniper wasn't allowed to take the shot. They should have at least pulled President Trump off the stage immediately. This was 100% a setup and heads need to roll all the way to the top.
lol that’s literally a cops / SS agents JOB is to run towards the sounds of gunfire: to run INTO danger. Nowadays, who knows what happens, but I would hope that in the past, cops who showed cowardice on the job would be quickly stuck behind a desk permanently or otherwise removed.
the snipers were in on it!!! they had to let the kid take out Trump first and then be reactive and shoot the kid.... destroy the evidence AFTER the crime has been committed!
"The use of real and/or staged tragedy is a truth of politics from the start. It's that entire system of manipulations that is challenged by Trump. An entrenched power that requires every possible angle of effort to overcome. Trump is no longer as fresh of an idea in fighting deep state as he was in 2016 and complacency must be overcame.
Consider Reagan post-assassination attempt.
"cartoonists will have to direct their malice elsewhere". "Public opinion polls already show approval rising" "Will Reagan turn sympathy into votes?".
It's a consequence of the environment of press control and mass shepherding.
I believe what we have now is a unique sequence of efforts meant to culminate in the exposure of the whole. In this way it is justified one final time both to get the power necessary to change it as well as seeding the very ability to expose it! At least that is my thinking on the matter, I'm not always right and I will be digging further into this and will report any new clarity. A lot of focus on how improbable the sequence of events are:
Seeding the public distrust of existing power structures. The summary of which is that Trump will surge in polls and look to win easily (which is what we see now) but inexplicably the election will be "stolen" again. Only not quite, because the point is to make it as obvious as possible that it's being stolen."
Why are you glossing over the very obvious possibility that this is all part of the plan?
This better be the “shot heard round the world” otherwise nothing is!!!
I have also literally never heard of anybody being shot in the ear. The chances of this happening are so minuscule as to be literally impossible. One would have a better chance of being struck by lightning while riding on a unicorn along with an alien.
We are to believe that the shooter basically got a headshot on Trump, but missed by about a half an inch?
that’s either truly the hand of God, or all part of a show…..no?
It's too close for comfort. We almost lost trump on Saturday. The grace of God saved him, but that means we need changes to prevent this, and we need changes now.
Complacency of the SS and ineptitude of those agents is hard to believe. Cop climbs the to the roof, sees a gunman then retreats. YOU KNOW he called it in and every cop in the area heard it including the SS agents and yet they wait for a confirmation before getting Trump out of there. Well, a dead Patriot, a wounded Trump and a couple of others shot and they get their confirmation!
Come on, Man..... The cop had a gun pointed at him, he got stressed, climbed down the ladder and had to go recuperate from that stress with a dozen glazed donuts. I'm certain after he polished off the donuts he then had time to contact the SS. He isn't incompetent, just needed time to assess the situation and get his blood sugar levels on par.
I'm sorry, but I'm sick and tired of people with their "bigfoot" videos. Just like the Zapruter film of the Kennedy assassination, and ANY Bigfoot video, the camera jumps around so you cannot get a clear visual of the guy on the roof. I know stress is a factor and 99% of people behind the camera are amateurs, but dang it, FOCUS ON WHAT YOU WANT TO SHOW AND STOP PANNING ALL OVER THE PLACE.
Let this be a lesson to everyone attending a Trump rally or anywhere else for that matter:
The police will not protect you or anyone else! You are responsible for your own safety and clearly the safety of our president.
In a case like this, do whatever you can to attract attention and distract the shooter. Throw whatever you have at him to make him lose concentration or begin firing prematurely, giving Trump the opportunity to get behind cover. Even a compromised security force can’t pretend forever that nothing is going on once shots are fired.
Everyone needs to keep their heads on a swivel at any of these events. I imagine any future ones will be similar to how people were on airplanes after 9/11. The mindset was, “I’d rather die fighting a terrorist than stay buckled in while they fly this into another building.”
Now we’re awake and understand even his security detail can’t be trusted.
Remember also that in 1963 it was the SS that had problems with three Parkland ER Doctors medical opinions which conflicted with the narrative. Suprisingly they pressured the Doctors to change their medical opinions ? These Doctors had no dog in the fight so to speak.
Should their name be changed to Selective Service ? Meaning we only protect DS assets ? Sadly we have to ask these questions but they must be asked.
Too bad several men didn’t climb the ladder and overpower him. The attendee at the rally might be alive today. It was planned, otherwise why would DJT’s usual SS detail be pulled to guard Jill Biden? Tell me there were no other SS agents available to guard Jill.
Any one of the men had an opportunity to stop this guy by going over and confronting him, or physically restraining him. Several men could have easily overpowered him and held him for the police to collect.
Why does everyone feel that you have to get the police to help? Why not get involved rather than just spectate when you can clearly see this person was up to no good?
The assassin would have shot the heads of each man when they reached the top of the ladder. Probably not the best way for those guys to use their man heads.
Well, if his attention is kept on the ladder he can't shoot at anyone else, either. Regardless, there are plenty of things they could have done, had they chosen to do so. The current penchant for milling around and waiting for someone else to do something is not the America I grew up in, nor the America our Founders established.
I understand that a lot of people might experience a moment of 'this is surreal, this isn't happening.' But damn, learn to get over that fast because seconds count.
I guarantee that, if the shooter had walked by the crowd carrying his rifle on his way to the building... and he made some racist comment or LGBTQ remark... the police would have stopped him immediately.
After all... we can't have that type of intolerance. :>(
I know I was not there and pure speculation but something tells me I would have knocked that thing off of the ladder as it was climbing the ladder -if- I was in the vicinity.
Hoping one day that mentality is restored in the American psyche.
Again pure speculation but pointing fingers and such is weird. Plus these police has ear comms. Does anyone know if their comms were down yet? Maybe they were.
If they were down or if they were getting something weird it would cause a distraction and could explain them not paying attention to the people pointing and such.
I have zero idea how they communicate, but they have ear piece of some sort. It could be cellular, WiFi, RF — but at that moment if they were paying attention to what their comms were doing it would be more important for them to concentrate on that?
All over the air comms will use something that can be blocked. Hacking into the comms might be difficult depending on their algorithm and security set this use. Blocking a blanket of signals.
From here on out, how can the Secret Service be trusted? They aren't going to stop. They can't stop. Once President Trump takes office, they are all done. Their very lives depend on stopping him. Only God can protect him now.
It's really telling how nonsensical and emotional everyone gets over this. Almost everyone if falling for the "cops bad" DS narrative with no real proof of them being negligent.
The shooter was spotter when already on the roof.
The building is tall and has a very low pitch to its roof.
The shooter new enough to stay low or be shot so he moved 2/3s of the way across the roof at the lower end to not get his head sniped.
People on the ground made fuzzy videos and yelled to police who saw the shooter and APPEARED to do nothing.
No one has provided the radio communication of the police who APPEARED to do nothing.
The police did so much nothing a LEO climbed the ladder up the wall.
Most likely the LEO discovered a muzzle pointing at his head at the top of the ladder and retreated. (Obvious beta male coward)
Sniper on barn behind Trump is already scoping out the ridge of neighboring building by now. Obviously police are still doing nothing.
Trump, even with the sniper behind him scoping out where an assassin is lurking just below the ridge line of a neighboring building, is not evacuated. This is the biggest piece of the puzzle and most telling.
Shooter slides his way up to the ridge and 3 initial shots are heard then a cluster of 4-5 then one last could be shot a little late.
Whoever set up the kid to do this is probably connected with the designed non-security window and leaving Trump out there to be shot.
Maybe a cop chased a donut around the corner so that the assassin could hop out of a vehicle with a ladder and weapon but to keep dumping on the local police is falling into the DS narrative of divide and conquer.
The questions are 1. Who did not pull Trump off that stage. 2. How did the shooter get the plan to carry this out. And 3. Who ensured the clear path to the roof?
It would only take one corrupt cop and a bunch of DEI hires the make the day of events to happen. So who made it happen? Probably not the police or dei SS members.
Trump, even with the sniper behind him scoping out where an assassin is lurking just below the ridge line of a neighboring building, is not evacuated. This is the biggest piece of the puzzle and most telling.
Absolutely...We don't know the nature of the radio traffic at the time, But Leaving Trump up there exposed....?Lots of questions...
Ok, First; Let Me Start Off By Saying; "Please Don't ASSASSINATE The Messenger"!!
In Going Thru All The "Foggy" Media Reports, Right After This Attempt, I Came Upon An Article/Interview With A Supposed Secret Service "Official" Or At Least Someone Very Familiar With Their ...
When This Individual Was Asked Why The S.S. Snipers Didn't "Eliminate The Threat" Sooner; Especially When They Had Spotted The Shooter Nearly A Minute B4 The First Shot (The Would-Be Assassin's) Was Fired And When They Clearly Had The Opportunity??!!
This "Official's" Response Was That The Secret Service Is More Of A "REACTIVE" Type Of Organization, and That Their "Rules Of Engagement" Dictate That They Are "NEVER TO TAKE THE FIRST SHOT"!! IE: They Can Only Engage With The "Hit Man" After, And Only After He Takes The First Shot! To Me; That Can't Be Any More Ludicrous, Nonsensical, And/Or Absurd!! I Mean Why Frickin' EVEN Bother Having A S.S. Detail To Begin With??!! Is It To Have A Bunch Of "Vested" Individuals Jump On Top Of And Protect/Cover A Dead Body??!! And B.T.F.W; Why Din't The S.S. Snipers Radio Down To The "Stage Agents" And Tell Them To Jump On P.O.T.U.S. B4 The First (Would Be Assassin's) Shot Was Fired??!!
Anyway, As I Requested; Please Don't Make Any Plans To Assassinate Me For Bringing This Possible BS Info. To Your Attention! Although, As Absurd As It Sounds; IT DOES, Pretty Much, Fit Right In With This Admin's. "RULES OF DIPSHITEDNESS"!!
One More Thing; Did I Hear/Read Correcctly That Biden Actually Said Something To The Effect That "Trump Needs a BULLSEYE Placed On Him??!!" I'm Sure That Was Deleted Immediately!!
PEACE!
nobody made a mistake (unless a person is a demon in the flesh & counts the guy missing the killshot on Trump as a mistake...)
if they didn't allow this, then why was that ENTIRE SECTION even accessible by ANYBODY in the public? it should have been barricaded & controlled absolutely.
but it wasn't... it was LEFT WIDE OPEN & ACTIVELY IGNORED BY THOSE IN CHARGE.
What other explanation is there? The cops and SS colluded in Trump's assassination attempt
Agreed 100%
The fact that they didn't clear and secure that roof 100 yards away with a clear line of sight is insane by itself. It should not have even been possible for someone to climb up there and set up. It's the most obvious spot for an attempt on Trump's life.
If not occupying said roof, they should at least be watching it closely. A single drone with infrared would have spotted this guy instantly.
Honestly, I could have laid out a better security plan than what they had.
Well, this was an attempted assassination so……kinda hard to make a worse security plan.
If anything, they should have made it less obvious it was an assassination attempt by picking a slightly harder/longer shot and having those responsible for the new position, get pulled last minute to a new crisis/event.
This is just blatant.
I wish the crowd of people who noticed would have charged this dude or thrown rocks or something.
The only other explanation is that they were scared.
Doesn't explain why they ignored multiple reports of the shooter climbing the roof and aiming his rifle at the President
If, for whatever reason, the sniper wasn't allowed to take the shot. They should have at least pulled President Trump off the stage immediately. This was 100% a setup and heads need to roll all the way to the top.
I'm amazed Trump made it this far. I thought he had his own security team.
lol that’s literally a cops / SS agents JOB is to run towards the sounds of gunfire: to run INTO danger. Nowadays, who knows what happens, but I would hope that in the past, cops who showed cowardice on the job would be quickly stuck behind a desk permanently or otherwise removed.
This drives me nuts..
Why did no one try stop him? Why did the police not? Why didn't the snipers shoot him? Why was this allowed?
the snipers were in on it!!! they had to let the kid take out Trump first and then be reactive and shoot the kid.... destroy the evidence AFTER the crime has been committed!
Exactly.....
"The use of real and/or staged tragedy is a truth of politics from the start. It's that entire system of manipulations that is challenged by Trump. An entrenched power that requires every possible angle of effort to overcome. Trump is no longer as fresh of an idea in fighting deep state as he was in 2016 and complacency must be overcame.
Consider Reagan post-assassination attempt.
"cartoonists will have to direct their malice elsewhere". "Public opinion polls already show approval rising" "Will Reagan turn sympathy into votes?".
It's a consequence of the environment of press control and mass shepherding.
I believe what we have now is a unique sequence of efforts meant to culminate in the exposure of the whole. In this way it is justified one final time both to get the power necessary to change it as well as seeding the very ability to expose it! At least that is my thinking on the matter, I'm not always right and I will be digging further into this and will report any new clarity. A lot of focus on how improbable the sequence of events are:
This in turn creates the atmosphere that it's a conspiracy to out Trump.
Seeding the public distrust of existing power structures. The summary of which is that Trump will surge in polls and look to win easily (which is what we see now) but inexplicably the election will be "stolen" again. Only not quite, because the point is to make it as obvious as possible that it's being stolen."
The word "Why" is going to be a very big part of this. I think the "Why" is the key.
Why are you glossing over the very obvious possibility that this is all part of the plan?
This better be the “shot heard round the world” otherwise nothing is!!!
I have also literally never heard of anybody being shot in the ear. The chances of this happening are so minuscule as to be literally impossible. One would have a better chance of being struck by lightning while riding on a unicorn along with an alien.
We are to believe that the shooter basically got a headshot on Trump, but missed by about a half an inch?
that’s either truly the hand of God, or all part of a show…..no?
It's too close for comfort. We almost lost trump on Saturday. The grace of God saved him, but that means we need changes to prevent this, and we need changes now.
Complacency of the SS and ineptitude of those agents is hard to believe. Cop climbs the to the roof, sees a gunman then retreats. YOU KNOW he called it in and every cop in the area heard it including the SS agents and yet they wait for a confirmation before getting Trump out of there. Well, a dead Patriot, a wounded Trump and a couple of others shot and they get their confirmation!
The minute the cop confirmed there was a shooter on the roof the SS should have taken Trump off the stage. Instead he is left out to be shot.
Yep!
Only two questions need to be asked. Why wasn't President Trump immediately removed from the stage? Why did it take 3-4 minutes to investigate?
The SS shields Trump with their bodies until the word the shooter is down. That procedure makes sense to me.
Yes I believe this is standard protocol. They all Dogpile onto him literally shielding him from any further bullets with their own bodies.
Except for the women Secret Service apparently…. 🙄🤣🤣🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
Why did no one yell at the guy or move on him?
Apparently one of the police officers climbed the ladder and then climbed back down when he saw the gun.
We need that ASSHOLE‘s name and address and he needs to be removed from duty or more…. COWARD!!!
The people were calling out.
Come on, Man..... The cop had a gun pointed at him, he got stressed, climbed down the ladder and had to go recuperate from that stress with a dozen glazed donuts. I'm certain after he polished off the donuts he then had time to contact the SS. He isn't incompetent, just needed time to assess the situation and get his blood sugar levels on par.
I'm sorry, but I'm sick and tired of people with their "bigfoot" videos. Just like the Zapruter film of the Kennedy assassination, and ANY Bigfoot video, the camera jumps around so you cannot get a clear visual of the guy on the roof. I know stress is a factor and 99% of people behind the camera are amateurs, but dang it, FOCUS ON WHAT YOU WANT TO SHOW AND STOP PANNING ALL OVER THE PLACE.
Also, landscape mode is a thing.
Just like that school shooting (Uvalde) where the police stayed outside on stand down orders. Unreal.
Hey man, they had to sanitize their hands. You wouldn’t want your kid to catch Covid while they’re also being shot, right?
Let this be a lesson to everyone attending a Trump rally or anywhere else for that matter:
The police will not protect you or anyone else! You are responsible for your own safety and clearly the safety of our president.
In a case like this, do whatever you can to attract attention and distract the shooter. Throw whatever you have at him to make him lose concentration or begin firing prematurely, giving Trump the opportunity to get behind cover. Even a compromised security force can’t pretend forever that nothing is going on once shots are fired.
Everyone needs to keep their heads on a swivel at any of these events. I imagine any future ones will be similar to how people were on airplanes after 9/11. The mindset was, “I’d rather die fighting a terrorist than stay buckled in while they fly this into another building.”
Now we’re awake and understand even his security detail can’t be trusted.
Butler County is red, proudly red from interviews I have heard.
So how could NONE of the local LE have noticed all day, that a crucial threat area was not covered?!?!?
ALL of them were in on it?!? That is harder to believe than that none of them were in on it . . .
Remember also that in 1963 it was the SS that had problems with three Parkland ER Doctors medical opinions which conflicted with the narrative. Suprisingly they pressured the Doctors to change their medical opinions ? These Doctors had no dog in the fight so to speak. Should their name be changed to Selective Service ? Meaning we only protect DS assets ? Sadly we have to ask these questions but they must be asked.
That metal roof must've been hot that day. I know how hot metal can get when it sits out in the sun.
Too bad several men didn’t climb the ladder and overpower him. The attendee at the rally might be alive today. It was planned, otherwise why would DJT’s usual SS detail be pulled to guard Jill Biden? Tell me there were no other SS agents available to guard Jill.
Wait what???. This is monumental. Do you have any source for this???
Gateway Pundit.
The Gateway Pundit reported it:
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/07/report-secret-service-resources-were-diverted-jill-bidens/
Wow, I had not heard this yet. This seems like yet another blatantly obvious piece of the puzzle.
Any one of the men had an opportunity to stop this guy by going over and confronting him, or physically restraining him. Several men could have easily overpowered him and held him for the police to collect.
Why does everyone feel that you have to get the police to help? Why not get involved rather than just spectate when you can clearly see this person was up to no good?
WFH happened to being men?
The assassin would have shot the heads of each man when they reached the top of the ladder. Probably not the best way for those guys to use their man heads.
Well, if his attention is kept on the ladder he can't shoot at anyone else, either. Regardless, there are plenty of things they could have done, had they chosen to do so. The current penchant for milling around and waiting for someone else to do something is not the America I grew up in, nor the America our Founders established.
I wonder how stupid those people feel casually talking about this guy rather than doing something.
Seriously we truly have become a nation of cameraman and spectators. Disgusting.
I understand that a lot of people might experience a moment of 'this is surreal, this isn't happening.' But damn, learn to get over that fast because seconds count.
I guarantee that, if the shooter had walked by the crowd carrying his rifle on his way to the building... and he made some racist comment or LGBTQ remark... the police would have stopped him immediately.
After all... we can't have that type of intolerance. :>(
I know I was not there and pure speculation but something tells me I would have knocked that thing off of the ladder as it was climbing the ladder -if- I was in the vicinity.
Hoping one day that mentality is restored in the American psyche.
Again pure speculation but pointing fingers and such is weird. Plus these police has ear comms. Does anyone know if their comms were down yet? Maybe they were.
Why would their comms be down?
If they were down or if they were getting something weird it would cause a distraction and could explain them not paying attention to the people pointing and such.
I have zero idea how they communicate, but they have ear piece of some sort. It could be cellular, WiFi, RF — but at that moment if they were paying attention to what their comms were doing it would be more important for them to concentrate on that?
All over the air comms will use something that can be blocked. Hacking into the comms might be difficult depending on their algorithm and security set this use. Blocking a blanket of signals.
Just a thought is all.
From here on out, how can the Secret Service be trusted? They aren't going to stop. They can't stop. Once President Trump takes office, they are all done. Their very lives depend on stopping him. Only God can protect him now.
Not one single person started frantically yelling “GUN! GUN! GUN!!!” until the Secret Service actually got their lazy asses over?!?!?!?!
FAIL. on everybody’s part, Incl all those who were there. Shame on all of them.
I'm surprised droves of onlookers didn't surround the building and attempt to get on top. Quite certain what I would've attempted.
There is a report that the local police officer climbed up there to confront him.
Crooks aimed the gun at him and he retreated.
I find it suspicious that he approached what he knew could be a dangerous situation without having his weapon drawn.
The whole damn thing stinks.
It's really telling how nonsensical and emotional everyone gets over this. Almost everyone if falling for the "cops bad" DS narrative with no real proof of them being negligent.
The shooter was spotter when already on the roof.
The building is tall and has a very low pitch to its roof.
The shooter new enough to stay low or be shot so he moved 2/3s of the way across the roof at the lower end to not get his head sniped.
People on the ground made fuzzy videos and yelled to police who saw the shooter and APPEARED to do nothing.
No one has provided the radio communication of the police who APPEARED to do nothing.
The police did so much nothing a LEO climbed the ladder up the wall.
Most likely the LEO discovered a muzzle pointing at his head at the top of the ladder and retreated. (Obvious beta male coward)
Sniper on barn behind Trump is already scoping out the ridge of neighboring building by now. Obviously police are still doing nothing.
Trump, even with the sniper behind him scoping out where an assassin is lurking just below the ridge line of a neighboring building, is not evacuated. This is the biggest piece of the puzzle and most telling.
Shooter slides his way up to the ridge and 3 initial shots are heard then a cluster of 4-5 then one last could be shot a little late.
Whoever set up the kid to do this is probably connected with the designed non-security window and leaving Trump out there to be shot.
Maybe a cop chased a donut around the corner so that the assassin could hop out of a vehicle with a ladder and weapon but to keep dumping on the local police is falling into the DS narrative of divide and conquer.
The questions are 1. Who did not pull Trump off that stage. 2. How did the shooter get the plan to carry this out. And 3. Who ensured the clear path to the roof?
It would only take one corrupt cop and a bunch of DEI hires the make the day of events to happen. So who made it happen? Probably not the police or dei SS members.
Absolutely...We don't know the nature of the radio traffic at the time, But Leaving Trump up there exposed....?Lots of questions...
Yeah, very much not okay and screams of a set up!
Ok, First; Let Me Start Off By Saying; "Please Don't ASSASSINATE The Messenger"!! In Going Thru All The "Foggy" Media Reports, Right After This Attempt, I Came Upon An Article/Interview With A Supposed Secret Service "Official" Or At Least Someone Very Familiar With Their ...
When This Individual Was Asked Why The S.S. Snipers Didn't "Eliminate The Threat" Sooner; Especially When They Had Spotted The Shooter Nearly A Minute B4 The First Shot (The Would-Be Assassin's) Was Fired And When They Clearly Had The Opportunity??!!
This "Official's" Response Was That The Secret Service Is More Of A "REACTIVE" Type Of Organization, and That Their "Rules Of Engagement" Dictate That They Are "NEVER TO TAKE THE FIRST SHOT"!! IE: They Can Only Engage With The "Hit Man" After, And Only After He Takes The First Shot! To Me; That Can't Be Any More Ludicrous, Nonsensical, And/Or Absurd!! I Mean Why Frickin' EVEN Bother Having A S.S. Detail To Begin With??!! Is It To Have A Bunch Of "Vested" Individuals Jump On Top Of And Protect/Cover A Dead Body??!! And B.T.F.W; Why Din't The S.S. Snipers Radio Down To The "Stage Agents" And Tell Them To Jump On P.O.T.U.S. B4 The First (Would Be Assassin's) Shot Was Fired??!!
Anyway, As I Requested; Please Don't Make Any Plans To Assassinate Me For Bringing This Possible BS Info. To Your Attention! Although, As Absurd As It Sounds; IT DOES, Pretty Much, Fit Right In With This Admin's. "RULES OF DIPSHITEDNESS"!!
One More Thing; Did I Hear/Read Correcctly That Biden Actually Said Something To The Effect That "Trump Needs a BULLSEYE Placed On Him??!!" I'm Sure That Was Deleted Immediately!!
PEACE!
Why the fuck did you type that whole comment and capitalize every single word? Weird as fuck.
the corrupt police force & SS.... ALLOWED this.
there is no other logical explanation.
nobody made a mistake (unless a person is a demon in the flesh & counts the guy missing the killshot on Trump as a mistake...)
if they didn't allow this, then why was that ENTIRE SECTION even accessible by ANYBODY in the public? it should have been barricaded & controlled absolutely.
but it wasn't... it was LEFT WIDE OPEN & ACTIVELY IGNORED BY THOSE IN CHARGE.