The movie 8 Mile was always a piece of fiction. Gangs having rap battles in the middle of night is such a Hollywood creation, like something from West Side Story. But it’s part of the marketing once he agrees to sell his soul
He's no fan of the diddler - From the song Fuel - “I’m like a R-A-P-E-R. Got so many S-As (huh) / Wait, he didn’t just spell the world ‘rapper’ and leave out a P, did he?”
Not only the deliberate spelling of “rapper,” but also how “P, did he?” sounded just like P Diddy.
I agree w u I was just putting it out there. Even if “a change of ways” accountability is required. Honestly I haven’t dug too deep into this aspect, but I don’t believe he was involved with diddy. It ties into the Tupac and 50 cent stuff. Again, I’m no expert in this area, I actually hate rap and don’t pay attention to the characters playing their rolls. But now I have to as a part of our mission! Or something like that… Hopefully time will give us the correct answers
Dre! That was the other name I was trying to remember. I’ve heard the same. Also heard that Dre was a defender of Marshal Mathers and helped him a lot. Idk what that help was exactly. Like I said hopefully time will allow answers. And justice.
"Shut up, slut! You're causin' too much chaos
Just bend over and take it like a slut, okay, Ma?
"Oh, now he's raping his own mother
Abusing a whore, snorting coke
And we gave him the Rolling Stone cover?"
You're goddamn right, bitch, and now it's too late
I'm triple platinum and tragedies happened in two states"
I still remember the anti bush war songs he had. Very well lipped. But for him to be so anti trump even though his inner circle are trump fans....I always thought for it to be weird
He’s the first time I recognized an industry plant. Even back in ‘99. Came out of nowhere, suddenly was BFFs with Dr Dre, the hottest shit going and was on the radio every 15 minutes.
People need to start understanding it is a mafia. Good fellas kind of covers it. They don’t associate with people that are not in the mob. They pay protection money like the mob. All of these stars have family kids and what not. Do you need to go to college to be a key grip? They are only surrounded by a select group of people.
I'm not ashamed to say I was a fan of Eminem growing up and still appreciate some of his music.... obviously not a whole lot of any of his newer catalog, which they have REALLY, REALLY turned toward an overt political direction in the recent years, sadly & shamefully.
Just to set the record straight, Eminem WAS to some degree political from the jump; dating back to his earliest records there were frquent references to both celebrities AND political figures... and, believe it or not, some piquant and eyebrow raising lyrics which were often scathing against the social values and 'political correctness' of that era.
Interesting that someone in the comments mentioned his anti-war (Iraq) songs and attacks at the Bush administration.... I think his stance was well known (and quite typical for the times) but I don't remember much expressed through his musical output.
Besides the one song I think was called Riot or some cliche shit like that. This was also the period of time where most of us can agree that 'something happened'..... the wikipedia "history" tell us that during this time, Eminem had AS THE KIDS SAY "fell off" (although many fans cite the Eminem Show, Encore etc. as their FAVORITE era of Eminem's music strangely)
... No one really knows for sure but, he went through a period of no musical output, went dark for a couple of years, and then WHAM! on the front cover of the prominent rap magazine 'The Source' a major story drops that Eminem had become SEVERELY ADDICTED to vicodin and then eventually methadone and gone to the bottom of the spiral.
He continued in a precipitous decline until he eventually overdosed and almost died but was revived by EMTs who had gotten to him in the knick of time. For anyone who followed his career up to then, I think we can VERY SAFELY SAY this was the point in time where Eminem seemed to undergo dramatic changes, affecting everything from his public persona to his rapping style and ability to the subject matter of his songs, even his physical appearance was different.
Maybe nothing so striking or apparent as to cause immediate questions or alarm, but, we also should take into account that this was pre-2010s when the Internet and social media was not the monolith of today and still in a nascent stage.
It would've been easier to pass off a body double replacement, or maybe just a good old fashioned MKULTRA treatment to make him a bit more "compliant" when necessary. Especially considering he was removed him from the public eye for a while, back when there weren't a bajillion pictures of everyone floating around the Internet one click away where everyone could get them.
Last point, just a quick mention that when they started teasing and then did the rollout of the "new" Eminem there was definitely an angle they were going for with presenting his physical appearance. All of a sudden those (wife beaters) A-shirts that draped loosely off of "Slim" were stretched tight like they would rip at any moment. Sleeveless shirts, fingerless gloves to beanies and grey hoodies. What happened to the oversized white T shirt and blue jeans?
Interesting to me how they presented him in this new way, showing off his physique... it sort of calls to mind when Dave Chappelle resurfaced and your eyeballs got wide seeing that he had gained this significant amount of muscle on his formerly wire-thin frame. Seems like they went for something similar in the case of Slim Shady... you know, allegedly and all that.
Most appallingly perhaps was the brunette crew cut. It didnt occur to me until now, many years later, how this might have been their visual way of gelding the bleach blonde menace that trampled boy bands and brainless pop divas. Another subtle way of putting it in plain sight, telegraphing their disruptions to our world... maybe.
Anyways...
From that "Not Afraid" became a global mega-phenomenon and to just speak to the tone and lyrical content of the song.... while there ARE shades of Marshall Mathers in there, this just doesn't FEEL right, it's too sober and self-serious, it's too much from the perspective of "here friend, I'm just like you. Let me give you a hand, step up here with me." The real Marshall was more " get behind me so I can push first before we all rush the door to where they said is off limits"
Obviously I don't have a great way of explaining my point but I hope that makes some kind of sense. Moreover, this can take us back to the beginning, when I was a kid on the bus with a CD player and either Slim Shady or Marshall Mathers were ALWAYS in there, when I heard something questioning everything and asking if I was the only one who smelled the bullshit in the air these days.
So political stuff:
You want me to fix up lyrics/ while the President gets his d##k sucked?
My morals went ::plop::/ when the President got caught getting oral sex in the Oval Office/ By his own employee
Hillary Clinton tried to slap me and call me a pervert/ I ripped her fuckin' tonsils out and fed her sherbert (Bitch)
Sent to lead the march right up to the steps of Congress/ And piss on the lawns of the White House
To burn the casket and replace it with a parental advisory sticker /To spit liquor in the faces of this democracy of hipocracy
Fuck you Ms Cheney
Fuck you Tipper Gore (the entire lyrics of White America are poignant)
Two kids sixteen with M16s and 10 clips each
And them shits reach thru six kids each
And Slim gets blamed in Bill Clint's speech
To fix these streets??
FUCK THAT! You fa**ots can vanish to volcanic ash...
Some other less overtly political but still poignant lines off the top of my head:
So who's bringing the guns in this country?
I couldn't sneak a pellet gun thru customs over in London
And last week I seen this Schwarzenegger movie
Where he shooting all sorts of these mf's with a uzi
I see these 3 little kids up in the front row/Screaming Go/ with their 17 year old uncle/I'm like guidance?/ ain't these the parents that got mad when I asked if they liked violence
And told me that my tape taught em to swear/ what about the makeup you allow your 12 year old daughter to wear?
And of course, the trashing of the boy bands and insinuations they were well, homosexuals. (He was OVER THE TARGET! 🤣 )
An anti-Backstreet and Ricky Martin/ Whose instincts to kill NSYNC don't get me started/ These fucking brats can't sing and Britney's garbage/ What's this bitch retarded, give me back my 16 dollars
All I see is sissies in magazines smiling, whatever happened to wiling out and being violent?
New Kids on the Block
Suck a lot of dk
Boy/girl groups make me sick
And I can't wait till I catch all you faots in public
Imma love it
[Man he called that one]
And by the way NSYNC why do they sing/ Am I the only one who realizes they stink / Should I dye my hair pink and care what yall think/ Lip sync and buy a bigger size of earrings
A personal favorite of mine is this little intro at the beginning of "Drug Ballad":
Back when Mark Wahlberg was Markie Mark (Bitch)
This is how we used to make the party start(Fuckin' fa**ot)
God, that ad lib is priceless 🤣
If you really want to be entertained, the clip of them together on TRL, standing there quietly while Wahlberg gets obviously angry and uncomfortable is chef's kiss 🤣🤣
So you can sit me here next to Britney Spears
Christina Aguilera better switch me chairs so I can sit next to Carson Daly and Fred Durst
And hear them argue over who she gave head to first
Little b*h put my on blast on MTV "Yeah he's cute but I think he's married to Kim he-he
I should download the audio on MP3 and show the whole world how you gave Eminem VD
Sheesh, these lyrics were like, practically tattooed into my brain. It's almost shocking to me that the entire world doesnt know this to the point that it's boring to even put them up. That was the cultural impact this guy had, he was an inspiration for a certain class and generation of us.
It's strange because looking back Eminem was a cultural kind of populist movement in this era... it's hard to believe he wouldn't almost completely align with the movement happening today. His fanbase certainly overlaps.
And what to make of his friendship with 50 Cent who has been one of the most outspoken hip hop artists when it comes to embracing Trump (not to mention an early whistleblower on the Diddy case)
So I went overboard on this just in the hopes someone else can understand there was Eminem until 2004 and then a very different artist also named Eminem that reemerged in 2009.
The former guy was calling out the ridiculous, sissified and not so subtle homosexual behaviors in pop culture back then. He was exposing the hypocrisy of the government and its censorship of music, showing how they made a mockery of the 1st Amendment in the process. He was torching the right and the left and pointing the finger back at them and their own lack of morality.
Then we got this new guy who made a song from a first person perspective of the Vegas shooter, and did an incredibly cringe freestyle on a BET award show about pouring hot coffee on Donald Trump's lap.
The original guy was a head trip and a half, a mindfuck on acid. He was covering ground NO ONE HAD EVER EVEN THOUGHT to rap about. He was skilled as a lyricist but also made incredible choruses and hooks for songs. The sheer volume of his vocabulary and the way he weaponized it was just awesome. Most of all he was one of us and fearlessly called out all the stupid shit in our culture that was ridiculous and totally unrelatable to everyday people.
And then after 2009 we got what came out of the other side, billed as the New, Improved, Introspective Eminem™️.
The based perspective, calling out hypocrisy in culture and politics was gone. Rapping about his dysfunctional trailer park family and upbringing was gone, something so relatable to many of us from broken homes who have lifelong trauma. Did it end for Marshall at some point? I've never understood that... it never ends for actual victims, and yet he stopped discussing it....The comedic, self deprecating edge was something he no longer seemed to possess either.
This new guy seemed to try and retain his status as a legend by rapping fast and other kind of lame tricks and gimmicks with rhyme schemes and syllables and double entendres. Eminem NEVER did any of that shit, he just hit you with the most raw content possible, he was never a 'speed' rapper at all.
But apparently new guy was... or is. He also seems to be on the [DS] side of every political topic now. What a coincidence!? A guy who used to say Fuck the government, they can suck a dick (some track off 8 Mile soundtrack I believe)
That SAME DUDE now seemed to support the lone Vegas shooter story, and Trump is a Nazi (Stan from Southpark: Bush is a Nayyzee...) and all the other right-thinking CIA delivered talking points.
It's just strange, man. They take away the people you love, the figures that inspired you or spoke to you at one time. I'm certain people feel this same way about Neil Young and many other artists. But this was a drastic and strange kind of change, again that I compare to Dave Chappelle, with a very clear and defined before and after.
Even the favorite subject matter of the person seems to change.
Thanks for reading if anyone did. Screw Eminem today. Kid Rock never sold his soul.
They either cloned him or brainwashed him. Either way his soul belongs to Satan. I hope I'm not there to see them when they realize the deal they've made, but I would love to see it. I'm guessing that eternity is a very long time.
Her last name is the cue most overlook. Chandler. Child Handler. Yessir
FACTS This one case has the ability to bring down the (many) rich & powerful people. Those who scream the loudest….
His new music is crap. He should have retired years ago but they prob won’t let him. Time to pay off the debt for his fame
^Correct
Thank you for fixing that!
The movie 8 Mile was always a piece of fiction. Gangs having rap battles in the middle of night is such a Hollywood creation, like something from West Side Story. But it’s part of the marketing once he agrees to sell his soul
And why did Brittany Murphy mysteriously die after the movie was made…
On "Friends". You had Rachel and Chandler..Child Handler
All the Diddy clients are sweating bullets,
Kamala getting elected is their only hope of survival
In their minds yes. But little do they know NCSWIC and Kambala is controlled by WHs IMHO.
Mark Cuban making a fool of himself. I would bet my house he's got some diddling on him.
He's no fan of the diddler - From the song Fuel - “I’m like a R-A-P-E-R. Got so many S-As (huh) / Wait, he didn’t just spell the world ‘rapper’ and leave out a P, did he?”
Not only the deliberate spelling of “rapper,” but also how “P, did he?” sounded just like P Diddy.
he's probably resentful that he was under his thumb for all those years, doesnt mean he wasnt involved.
I agree w u I was just putting it out there. Even if “a change of ways” accountability is required. Honestly I haven’t dug too deep into this aspect, but I don’t believe he was involved with diddy. It ties into the Tupac and 50 cent stuff. Again, I’m no expert in this area, I actually hate rap and don’t pay attention to the characters playing their rolls. But now I have to as a part of our mission! Or something like that… Hopefully time will give us the correct answers
/u/queue-anon
Yeah I heard Dr. Dre (who signed Eminem and made him famous) did similar things that Diddy did, to him.
Dre! That was the other name I was trying to remember. I’ve heard the same. Also heard that Dre was a defender of Marshal Mathers and helped him a lot. Idk what that help was exactly. Like I said hopefully time will allow answers. And justice.
He does appear on Q's epstein island list as well.
He's trying to separate himself from Diddler & Epstein, but it won't work.
He is also retarded and a fag.
Can confirm
Anybody can be a rapper. They get rich by doing what they're told.
They get rich by taking it in the rear.
They get rich by selling their soul.
Diddy was a “fisherman of souls” for Satan. That is not something I would want on my resume when my body passes.
But, he’s a grandpa. /sarc
Would it be easier to name the people in the music industry that arent pedophiles or linked to Epstein?
"Shut up, slut! You're causin' too much chaos Just bend over and take it like a slut, okay, Ma? "Oh, now he's raping his own mother Abusing a whore, snorting coke And we gave him the Rolling Stone cover?" You're goddamn right, bitch, and now it's too late I'm triple platinum and tragedies happened in two states"
I still remember the anti bush war songs he had. Very well lipped. But for him to be so anti trump even though his inner circle are trump fans....I always thought for it to be weird
He’s the first time I recognized an industry plant. Even back in ‘99. Came out of nowhere, suddenly was BFFs with Dr Dre, the hottest shit going and was on the radio every 15 minutes.
Dr Dre is so fucking gay
That's Shady alright, Slim
M&M’s see-eye-a sista’????? Separated at birth?????????
The resemblance between them is striking, no?
They are all in the same proverbial boat so yo speak.
Dont forget his real name is Marshall Mathers and he appears on the Q Epstein Island list.....
People need to start understanding it is a mafia. Good fellas kind of covers it. They don’t associate with people that are not in the mob. They pay protection money like the mob. All of these stars have family kids and what not. Do you need to go to college to be a key grip? They are only surrounded by a select group of people.
He's a fag that was passed around by black rappers like a party favor.
Like Dr Dre and his manager fella.
I mean he did bust on himself in the song where he said that him and dre been fucking with caps off.
I'm not ashamed to say I was a fan of Eminem growing up and still appreciate some of his music.... obviously not a whole lot of any of his newer catalog, which they have REALLY, REALLY turned toward an overt political direction in the recent years, sadly & shamefully.
Just to set the record straight, Eminem WAS to some degree political from the jump; dating back to his earliest records there were frquent references to both celebrities AND political figures... and, believe it or not, some piquant and eyebrow raising lyrics which were often scathing against the social values and 'political correctness' of that era.
Interesting that someone in the comments mentioned his anti-war (Iraq) songs and attacks at the Bush administration.... I think his stance was well known (and quite typical for the times) but I don't remember much expressed through his musical output.
Besides the one song I think was called Riot or some cliche shit like that. This was also the period of time where most of us can agree that 'something happened'..... the wikipedia "history" tell us that during this time, Eminem had AS THE KIDS SAY "fell off" (although many fans cite the Eminem Show, Encore etc. as their FAVORITE era of Eminem's music strangely)
... No one really knows for sure but, he went through a period of no musical output, went dark for a couple of years, and then WHAM! on the front cover of the prominent rap magazine 'The Source' a major story drops that Eminem had become SEVERELY ADDICTED to vicodin and then eventually methadone and gone to the bottom of the spiral.
He continued in a precipitous decline until he eventually overdosed and almost died but was revived by EMTs who had gotten to him in the knick of time. For anyone who followed his career up to then, I think we can VERY SAFELY SAY this was the point in time where Eminem seemed to undergo dramatic changes, affecting everything from his public persona to his rapping style and ability to the subject matter of his songs, even his physical appearance was different.
Maybe nothing so striking or apparent as to cause immediate questions or alarm, but, we also should take into account that this was pre-2010s when the Internet and social media was not the monolith of today and still in a nascent stage.
It would've been easier to pass off a body double replacement, or maybe just a good old fashioned MKULTRA treatment to make him a bit more "compliant" when necessary. Especially considering he was removed him from the public eye for a while, back when there weren't a bajillion pictures of everyone floating around the Internet one click away where everyone could get them.
Last point, just a quick mention that when they started teasing and then did the rollout of the "new" Eminem there was definitely an angle they were going for with presenting his physical appearance. All of a sudden those (wife beaters) A-shirts that draped loosely off of "Slim" were stretched tight like they would rip at any moment. Sleeveless shirts, fingerless gloves to beanies and grey hoodies. What happened to the oversized white T shirt and blue jeans?
Interesting to me how they presented him in this new way, showing off his physique... it sort of calls to mind when Dave Chappelle resurfaced and your eyeballs got wide seeing that he had gained this significant amount of muscle on his formerly wire-thin frame. Seems like they went for something similar in the case of Slim Shady... you know, allegedly and all that.
Most appallingly perhaps was the brunette crew cut. It didnt occur to me until now, many years later, how this might have been their visual way of gelding the bleach blonde menace that trampled boy bands and brainless pop divas. Another subtle way of putting it in plain sight, telegraphing their disruptions to our world... maybe.
Anyways...
From that "Not Afraid" became a global mega-phenomenon and to just speak to the tone and lyrical content of the song.... while there ARE shades of Marshall Mathers in there, this just doesn't FEEL right, it's too sober and self-serious, it's too much from the perspective of "here friend, I'm just like you. Let me give you a hand, step up here with me." The real Marshall was more " get behind me so I can push first before we all rush the door to where they said is off limits"
Obviously I don't have a great way of explaining my point but I hope that makes some kind of sense. Moreover, this can take us back to the beginning, when I was a kid on the bus with a CD player and either Slim Shady or Marshall Mathers were ALWAYS in there, when I heard something questioning everything and asking if I was the only one who smelled the bullshit in the air these days.
So political stuff:
You want me to fix up lyrics/ while the President gets his d##k sucked?
My morals went ::plop::/ when the President got caught getting oral sex in the Oval Office/ By his own employee
Hillary Clinton tried to slap me and call me a pervert/ I ripped her fuckin' tonsils out and fed her sherbert (Bitch)
Sent to lead the march right up to the steps of Congress/ And piss on the lawns of the White House To burn the casket and replace it with a parental advisory sticker /To spit liquor in the faces of this democracy of hipocracy Fuck you Ms Cheney Fuck you Tipper Gore (the entire lyrics of White America are poignant)
Two kids sixteen with M16s and 10 clips each And them shits reach thru six kids each And Slim gets blamed in Bill Clint's speech To fix these streets?? FUCK THAT! You fa**ots can vanish to volcanic ash...
Some other less overtly political but still poignant lines off the top of my head:
So who's bringing the guns in this country? I couldn't sneak a pellet gun thru customs over in London And last week I seen this Schwarzenegger movie Where he shooting all sorts of these mf's with a uzi I see these 3 little kids up in the front row/Screaming Go/ with their 17 year old uncle/I'm like guidance?/ ain't these the parents that got mad when I asked if they liked violence And told me that my tape taught em to swear/ what about the makeup you allow your 12 year old daughter to wear?
And of course, the trashing of the boy bands and insinuations they were well, homosexuals. (He was OVER THE TARGET! 🤣 )
An anti-Backstreet and Ricky Martin/ Whose instincts to kill NSYNC don't get me started/ These fucking brats can't sing and Britney's garbage/ What's this bitch retarded, give me back my 16 dollars All I see is sissies in magazines smiling, whatever happened to wiling out and being violent?
New Kids on the Block Suck a lot of dk Boy/girl groups make me sick And I can't wait till I catch all you faots in public Imma love it
[Man he called that one]
And by the way NSYNC why do they sing/ Am I the only one who realizes they stink / Should I dye my hair pink and care what yall think/ Lip sync and buy a bigger size of earrings
A personal favorite of mine is this little intro at the beginning of "Drug Ballad":
Back when Mark Wahlberg was Markie Mark (Bitch) This is how we used to make the party start(Fuckin' fa**ot)
God, that ad lib is priceless 🤣
If you really want to be entertained, the clip of them together on TRL, standing there quietly while Wahlberg gets obviously angry and uncomfortable is chef's kiss 🤣🤣
So you can sit me here next to Britney Spears Christina Aguilera better switch me chairs so I can sit next to Carson Daly and Fred Durst And hear them argue over who she gave head to first Little b*h put my on blast on MTV "Yeah he's cute but I think he's married to Kim he-he I should download the audio on MP3 and show the whole world how you gave Eminem VD
Sheesh, these lyrics were like, practically tattooed into my brain. It's almost shocking to me that the entire world doesnt know this to the point that it's boring to even put them up. That was the cultural impact this guy had, he was an inspiration for a certain class and generation of us.
It's strange because looking back Eminem was a cultural kind of populist movement in this era... it's hard to believe he wouldn't almost completely align with the movement happening today. His fanbase certainly overlaps.
And what to make of his friendship with 50 Cent who has been one of the most outspoken hip hop artists when it comes to embracing Trump (not to mention an early whistleblower on the Diddy case)
So I went overboard on this just in the hopes someone else can understand there was Eminem until 2004 and then a very different artist also named Eminem that reemerged in 2009.
The former guy was calling out the ridiculous, sissified and not so subtle homosexual behaviors in pop culture back then. He was exposing the hypocrisy of the government and its censorship of music, showing how they made a mockery of the 1st Amendment in the process. He was torching the right and the left and pointing the finger back at them and their own lack of morality.
Then we got this new guy who made a song from a first person perspective of the Vegas shooter, and did an incredibly cringe freestyle on a BET award show about pouring hot coffee on Donald Trump's lap.
The original guy was a head trip and a half, a mindfuck on acid. He was covering ground NO ONE HAD EVER EVEN THOUGHT to rap about. He was skilled as a lyricist but also made incredible choruses and hooks for songs. The sheer volume of his vocabulary and the way he weaponized it was just awesome. Most of all he was one of us and fearlessly called out all the stupid shit in our culture that was ridiculous and totally unrelatable to everyday people.
And then after 2009 we got what came out of the other side, billed as the New, Improved, Introspective Eminem™️.
The based perspective, calling out hypocrisy in culture and politics was gone. Rapping about his dysfunctional trailer park family and upbringing was gone, something so relatable to many of us from broken homes who have lifelong trauma. Did it end for Marshall at some point? I've never understood that... it never ends for actual victims, and yet he stopped discussing it....The comedic, self deprecating edge was something he no longer seemed to possess either.
This new guy seemed to try and retain his status as a legend by rapping fast and other kind of lame tricks and gimmicks with rhyme schemes and syllables and double entendres. Eminem NEVER did any of that shit, he just hit you with the most raw content possible, he was never a 'speed' rapper at all.
But apparently new guy was... or is. He also seems to be on the [DS] side of every political topic now. What a coincidence!? A guy who used to say Fuck the government, they can suck a dick (some track off 8 Mile soundtrack I believe)
That SAME DUDE now seemed to support the lone Vegas shooter story, and Trump is a Nazi (Stan from Southpark: Bush is a Nayyzee...) and all the other right-thinking CIA delivered talking points.
It's just strange, man. They take away the people you love, the figures that inspired you or spoke to you at one time. I'm certain people feel this same way about Neil Young and many other artists. But this was a drastic and strange kind of change, again that I compare to Dave Chappelle, with a very clear and defined before and after.
Even the favorite subject matter of the person seems to change.
Thanks for reading if anyone did. Screw Eminem today. Kid Rock never sold his soul.
They either cloned him or brainwashed him. Either way his soul belongs to Satan. I hope I'm not there to see them when they realize the deal they've made, but I would love to see it. I'm guessing that eternity is a very long time.
Is his name Chandler, too? Cuz they look like twins.
Midland Agency.
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