He said Americans were dumb and lazy and they didn't spend enough time doing homework or working 80 hours a week, so America needs more Indian immigrants that they can learn from, these are the same talking points you hear from Joe Biden.
Have you not noticed how many Americans are dumb and lazy? I thought this was a matter of record. Are we now going to accuse leftists of being intelligent and hardworking? lol
He didn't say that, and he's not addressing the government indoctrination daycare center system to fix that. We can't have a generation fully and properly educated until the majority are home schooling, one-room schoolhouse schooling, or co-op schooling, with true American fundamentals drilled in to each little head. Anyone who looks at the nightmare that the kids are being put through would immediately recognize the failure.
Also, quantity of homework is a technique used to force mental acceptance that 'they' own your time and you will always be doing a lot of menial and meaningless tasks for them. It's programming at the earliest stages of development.
I took my girl out of 7th grade early on. At the time, it was because of health issues, and an undiagnosed mold sensitivity. As it turns out, it was close to the best decision of our lives.
Humans love to learn, and she became self-educated by looking for answers online about all kinds of things. She spent 3 weeks in a community college only to discover that the indoctrination continues there, so she quit.
Once the education system is geared towards learning things, teaching trades and art and music...all stuff that builds a good, healthy and happy society...we can get back on track.
My lord, didn't they get their creepy fingers into every flipping aspect of humanity? It's the growing public awareness of all the fuckery that brings an end to it.
We had a house fire last March that took the air cleaners we were using, but they worked on light technology. We had two, one in the bedroom, and one in the living room. They actually worked to mitigate what mold was present (and that we were powerless to eliminate), and when the bulbs burned out, which they do after a year or so, we definitely noticed a difference.
They're not cheap, but the alternative of having mold remediation is far, far greater an expense. Dietary changes help. Food sensitivity blood tests are pricey, but for us, they were quite necessary. We've been gluten free for years now as well.
This world has too many things going on that irritate the human body.
I pray that your journey is smooth and easy...although if a detox is necessary, I never heard anyone say that it's a fun time.
Completely concur. The current systems are deleting information, hiding it, rewriting it, squashing independent thought and creativity, replacing logic and critical thought with degeneracy, relativism and plain evil. We will have a heck of a time uncovering truth and putting it all back into the curricula. Especially history and medicine...
Rockefeller designed the modern day education system and he did it to build a nation of workers to work for his businesses. It was never about educating people. And until we as a nation understand that and redesign it, it will stay this way.
If people want to be educated, they have to pay for it by going to university.
I was with you until that last sentence, because unis have been the centers of woke commie BS from before the final lap of the elementary and middle school freakout. Very few 'higher institutions' even provide a reasonable education and almost none at a reasonable price. No, the education system needs a serious renovation and until then, I'd strongly recommend seeking alternative paths. Trade, skills, certifications, non-mainstream colleges, anything. Medical pharmaceutical agent system is a sham, law perhaps may be worthwhile if you're unafraid of losing everything fighting for right and just causes, otherwise I guarantee you will be able to find all the information you need outside of those pricey classes.
Perhaps pay for access to their libraries, perhaps audit a few classes if you think they have a super lecturer, but go get real experience in your chosen field as a paid intern and a degree, if needed, from the cheapest place possible. (Student IDs can be valuable for all kinds of discounts.) Only woke hr values big uni names but their influence is dwindling to nothing (we won't look at names anymore, they're more trouble than they're worth, overvalued, and dei is dying). The only other factor for college is if you think you need 'connections' with other students that you can't get elsewhere. I say, lead the charge and make social clubs with other based young people who also refuse to be programmed woke debt slaves.
I live in a "university" town. Everyone, I mean every single person, who works at this university had a Harris sign in their front yard. Some still have the signs up.
These people may be highly book-educated, yet they are dumb. They trust science and believe in man-made global warming/cooling climate change. They are anti-white and woke.
Some Harris supporters aren't dumb. Some are protecting the status quo. Example, protecting business owners who benefit from illegal population accepting lower wages and no benefits. Also, the illegal worker here sending USD home creates windfalls for their family in the home countries.
Truth. I had to flee my hometown in Massachusetts because the illegals have filled up all the apartments, overwhelmed the schools, and pack the hospital with non-paying patients when they fall from their roofing / construction jobs or need to birth more "New Americans".
Several money-wire / transfer services popped up shortly after they arrived so we know for a fact that the money is transferred to 3rd world locations.
I agree with you and I know what universities have become in the west. But where else would one gain an engineering degree to work in an advanced field such as engineering? That was my point and even if universities are commie infested shitholes... The real fix is to remove the rot that has infested all of our institutions.
Auditing classes and self study are not going to get a person an interview or a job offer for STEM positions. You still have to get a degree. The first job to gain experience is the hardest one. IT is an outlier. Anyone can do IT. Here's why...
I am saying this as a system engineer with 20+ years experience and no college degree. I am 100% self taught. Learned Berkeley UNIX, then Linux and Solaris. Along the way taught myself storage and now work as an engineer for a Fortune 20. It can be done but it takes an entire career...
I also know several it folks without degrees, quite successful. Engineering? We can't hire any new graduates right now. Big companies like the one I'm in are starting their own programs because the products of unis now are worse than useless, they're woke. There will be a gap but we need to redo the necessary institutions, if any can be salvaged, else restart from scratch.
I was just speaking of this today with someone. Eiher we clear the rot from our institutions or we find a new way. Maybe apprenticeship programs for high school grads who are up to snuff? Or even companies running their own programs based on their own private criteria. Both are positive if you ask me. I do believe we can salvage the public institutions though. If we don't then the system is setting itself up to fail. All the private/apprenticeship programs will be fraught with fraud and nepotism. It takes good people to run these programs. How do we get there?
"Very few 'higher institutions' even provide a reasonable education and almost none at a reasonable price.... Medical pharmaceutical agent system is a sham, law perhaps may be worthwhile if you're unafraid of losing everything fighting for right and just causes, otherwise I guarantee you will be able to find all the information you need outside of those pricey classes."
People who write like this more often than not simply did not have the chops to perform academically and to parlay their academic success into gainful employment. And no - you will NOT be able to find all the information you need outside of those "pricey" classes. My current bill rate is $750/hr in part because I successfully completed course work, which included "pricey classes," some years ago and I am paid handsomely for what I know and what I do. It was not an easy road to get to this place.
I began my career 43 years ago as temporary lab tech holding 2 BS degrees in Biology and Chemistry (not-Ivy league). I had no scholarships and put myself through college working full time in retail and accounting. Entered pharma research, married my wife (celebrating 40 years this year), entered my first Masters program and completed a MS Biochemistry in 3 years - all night school + thesis. We had 2 children during the time I completed a second Masters in Business (MBA) in 3 years- also night school + thesis. After 10 career years in industry I went to work as a Review Chemist at FDA for 2 years, had 2 more children for 4 total while my wife - a STEM/business grad became a Director of R&D for her company.
I left FDA, returned to the pharma industry in regulatory affairs for another few years, left there, and launched my own consulting firm 29 years ago. Includes work in the legal field serving as a Subject Matter Expert Witness. I live in New England. My 6000 sq. ft. house on 2 acres was paid off 10 years ago. I plan to retire in 2 years. I billed ~ $1MM each of the last two years and our 401(k) is at multi-millions. Took parents in until they passed. Inherited little to nothing - did not outweigh the cost for their care. I and my family are happily un-vaxxed and I turned away business that required vaxxes. All kids college educated and gainfully employed - 3 of 4 hold Masters degrees. Two hold STEM MS's.
I have respect for tradesmen -- one of my grandfathers was a carpenter, and the other was an optician back in the day when they ground their own lenses. My dad was a doctor, wife's dad was a union card carrying electrician. Carpentry and electrical work last as long as the body can physically hold out - both can be brutal on the joints.
Bottom line- Proof's in the pudding: nothing beats stick-to-it-iveness, hard work, sacrifice, academic accomplishment in worthwhile fields of study, avoiding non-manageable debt loads, ultimately becoming debt free, and setting worthwhile goals - and giving thanks along the way for God's blessings. Success in building a career and a business often means more than just investing 40hrs/5 days a week. Too many fail to succeed because they get in their own way -- the willingness to do the hard work, to perform academically, to train adequately, to mature in their perspectives, and to plan their lives in ways that make good use of time too often is simply not there.
Lol TL;DR didn't get past the ignorance, you're ridiculously wrong. I hate the system that I fantastically succeeded in. It's programming and produces exactly what it's designed to produce- compliant, obedient wage slaves prepared for the inevitable consolidation with communism. I didn't learn that the designers of the system wrote that until relatively recently, thanks to the HSLDA, brilliant, dedicated lawyers there. The physics, chemistry, biochemistry, math, programming and business degrees YES could have come from books and nowadays, online teaching. I learned most on my own, from the libraries and the infant internet bulletin boards. I think you gave a life story that's too long and nothing but an anecdote. I have one too and it matters not a whit to the rest of the country, bless your defensive little heart.
TL;DR? The fact that you are so butt hurt suggests otherwise.
That you consider my life story as an "anecdote" of success simply reveals that you don't make it a point to surround yourself with the company of successful and truly accomplished persons, from whom you can learn a thing or two, as I do. Mine is only one of many similar stories. I am no one special. Any reasonably intelligent person can apply a sense of stick-to-it-iveness, hard work, sacrifice, academic accomplishment in worthwhile, objectively assessable and credentialed fields of study and arrive at the satisfying and happy near retirement as I have.
Your original posting was little more than a wailing litany of resentments. No evidence exists in anything you wrote that indicates that you "fantastically succeeded" at anything more than possibly becoming a drone and possibly losing your job to a sanskrit, when the true value of your self-styled in-substantially disciplined education and thinking skills deficits became apparent, and you may not have survived the competence v. cost comparison.
"The physics, chemistry, biochemistry, math, programming and business degrees YES could have come from books and nowadays, online teaching."
Is that what your clearly deficient infant internet board "education" taught you? Mere self-validation does not equate with acquiring seasoned critical thinking skills. Self validation leads to a mistaken sense self importance, and too often leads to an inability to be taught by others more accomplished than you are or ever were. People like you typically don't advance in your career because you come off as an insufferable, demonstrably incompetent know-it-all, incapable of managing change. You alone think you're great, but in truth you add no meaningful value to the employer, team, organization, or client that is measure-able enough to keep you gainfully employed.
You are THAT guy about which I spoke earlier who likely didn't have the chops or personal discipline for completing intellectually challenging academic programs, which in turn contribute to cultivation of an intellectual maturity and reasoning skills, borne of formalized and disciplined thought that opens the door wide for enjoyment of personal and career successes.
I'll challenge you to identify just one duly accredited degree program of merit in physics, chemistry, or biochemistry anywhere that relies only on textbooks and online classes. Course work in these disciplines requires a substantial number of laboratory credits and requires a cultivation of scientific reasoning through instruction beyond what mere texts contain. That kind of learning is achieved at a level requiring disciplined mental maturity which is not accomplished through online classes, or in diaper level chat rooms. Texts and online resources are merely a starting place for learning, but your presently immature level of understanding equates what may be appreciated as some tools of learning with the actual end point of learning itself.
" I learned most on my own, from the libraries and the infant internet bulletin boards."
"infant internet boards"? Listen to yourself. Education out of the mouths of babes, was it? Next thing you'll tell us how you mastered 8-bit on the "Trash-80," and wrote "cpm" and PeachText string onto 12" floppies, and somehow you'll expect readers to be impressed. What value have you added to tech lately without being able to rely on "infant internet boards" anymore? You whine today likely because your self-styled "education" did not prepare you to survive in a line of work that soon outpaced your competence and ability to keep up with the changes.
What ever it was you allegedly learned on your own was inadequate to deliver an education and a successful career path suitable to prevent you from whining about what you mistakenly conclude is supposedly every one else's fault but your own to be able to keep up at this stage of your life.
I provided my story as a testament to a successful career path accomplished in part through rigorous academic training, the type of which you resentfully derided, yet which for me by contrast has led to this present level of satisfying career success.
"I have one too and it matters not a whit to the rest of the country, bless your defensive little heart."
One reasonably expects that if your story was worth telling at all for purposes of acquainting readers with any meaningful successes you would have already done so.
He didn't use those exact words but it's obvious what he was inferring, in his own words;
"the reason why top tech companies often hire foreign born engineers over "native" Americans is because of culture"
Then he alludes to traits people associate with Indian/Asian kids, the emphasis on maths over sports, the emphasis on homework over sleepovers etc.
Top tech companies hire Indians because of A) cheaper wages and B) DEI policies that are explicitly anti white.
He never said he was against homework and he never criticised the education system, he said American culture was bad and that's why America needs to make the most out of H1B visas.
Not to mention this guy has spoken at Conversative Nationalism conferences which was created by a Zionist jew Yoram Hazony.
I agree with you, I was saying he didn't understand the festering dungheap that is the 'public' system. He SHOULD have been criticizing it, but he's still under the assumption that its purpose is to educate kids. He hasn't seen its reality, but he has seen television. OTOH, I've seen its reality and we banned television in our home. Also, he assumes his money-worshipping pagan upbringing is moral and good. With those assumptions, he cannot possibly explain the success of our Christian nation versus his parents' homeland, where everyone is brought up, according to him, with better culture. No one is as stupid as a 'smart' person...
He didn't overtly say that, but he gave a long winded attempt at creating a scapegoat as to why we ended up at the point that corps were in need of h-1bs.
You mean the long winded explanation of how Rockefeller education system dumbed people down, Media entertainment industry keeps them dumb and Big Junk keeps them unhealthy?
You can't have it both ways.
And accepting that the society has been manipulated for decades does not mean the people are inherently bad.
You saying you can't have it both ways is a false dichotomy. Accepting that our culture has been deliberately corrupted does not render Vivek's conclusion correct.
The best lies are entangled with truth. What Vivek did was present a single piece of a much more complex puzzle, and heralded it as a convenient scapegoat and justification for how we ended up in the current H-1B ordeal.
Protestant work ethic was once a key part of American culture and it sadly has faded away as society became more secular. Public school systems rotted from liberal ideology that said everyone should get a trophy and the worst thing we can do to a kid is bruise his self esteem. What's the saying? Hard Times breed strong men. Strong men breed good times. Good times breed weak men. Weak men breed hard times. So yeah, a lot of American youth have become dumb and lazy, and while I'm neutral on immigration in general, I'm all for instilling values into children (as well as into immigrants) that strengthen society.
A lot of people were moreso mad at Vivek because they felt like he was insulting their intelligence and taking a shit on our culture with one of his posts.
That the discussion of H1B and its devastating effect on American workers is FINALLY in the spotlight is nothing short of a miracle from my perspective, ergo I am a little detached from all the drama that is swirling.
Ultimately this will lead back to AMERICA FIRST.
Think optics. The stage is now set for displaced American workers to tell their individual stories ON THE NATIONAL STAGE about what has happened to them over the last 25+ years because of global labor arbitrage.
Similarly, the stage is being set for vaccine-injured and vaccine bereaved to do the same.
Not on the topic of immigration, but VR's regulatory stance would be very good for America IF we had a free press. For that matter, immigration would not have gotten to this abysmal heap-of-sh!t condition if we'd had fair, free press which gave equal time to both sides of an issue. With immigration, start by exposing the people/groups organizing, facilitating and pushing these invasions on America and many other countries including the money trails.
It all stems from the corruption-control of media by very bad players. FNM is evil and has been designed to destroy America (and the rest of the world, frankly) from the inside. Free press = Truth.
The requirement is free press + no clown money funding.
In that case, absolutely. NONE of these would have been this bad - election fraud, plandemics, vaccines, forever wars - NONE.
But it is so scary that people can be swayed from one extreme to another extreme so easily.
Uncontrolled illegal immigration is bad? Ok, lets get rid of EVERY immigrant.
Feminism is bad? Okay, every woman is bad.
LGBT is bad? Okay, ban every gay person.
Abortion is evil? Okay ban it completely, no exceptions.
This is how we have been, as a society, swinging from one extreme of the pendulum to the other extreme, being manipulated so easily, because we dont have the ability to take a deep breath and think.
If sound bites like this can create opinions for you, it doesn't matter which side you are on. You will forever be brainwashed. Just the people who brainwash you will keep changing, and the people you will be angry against will be different each time, but fundamentally nothing changes.
Hate to burst your bubble, but you are assuming that the video clip I shared is what formed my opinion. If you assume things like this, ((insert what you said to me)). LOL. That was only a teensy fraction of the information I was exposed to on THIS FORUM regarding Vivek during the primaries that influenced my opinion regarding Vivek. That and what I personally witnessed during those debates - the way he was allowed to speak all of the "conspiracies" and anti-vax and the whole enchilada and not be corrected or stopped by debate moderators like any other candidate would have been... that was clear to me that it was staged and they wanted him to do that. They wanted him to win the MAGA crowd as their controlled puppet, they were pretty sure they were going to take Trump down and prop up Vivek as the alternative.
Anyway, there is a lot of information out there, and on this forum, to strongly support the deep state Vivek the snake.
I shared that clip because it alone raises red flags.
Oh okay, so he used the same speech writer? So what??
Maybe, maybe not... it isn't just that... he's Obamawannabee in every sense.
He's fake. He's going to say whatever he thinks is going to elevate him, not the truth, not what he really believes.
but you are assuming that the video clip I shared is what formed my opinion
I can only assume what you show me. So far, that clip is the only thing concrete you have shown me.
the way he was allowed to speak all of the "conspiracies" and anti-vax and the whole enchilada
Almost makes me think you don't understand that patriots have always been in control.
Anyway, there is a lot of information out there, and on this forum, to strongly support the deep state Vivek the snake
Again, unless you show me something specific, all I have seen are sound bites and out of context clips to portray a picture. Thankfully, I have graduated from that level of news consumption.
Oh okay, so he used the same speech writer?
Dude, you are sounding like the MSM that takes sentences from Trump's speech and Hitler's speech and say Trump is Hitler.
He's fake. He's going to say whatever he thinks is going to elevate him, not the truth, not what he really believes.
I am not sure anyone here will have a problem with Vivek's stand on immigration.
If you are having a knee jerk reaction to "H1-B", here is what Vivek said just 5 months ago, as to what he thinks about immigration.
Just some quick points, but listen for yourself:
Ensuring that legal immigrants not only can contribute to the economy, but can also accept and become part of American culture
Not just for citizenship, but also for Green cards
Ending birthright citizenship for kids of illegal immigrants
He said Americans were dumb and lazy and they didn't spend enough time doing homework or working 80 hours a week, so America needs more Indian immigrants that they can learn from, these are the same talking points you hear from Joe Biden.
ive heard people on this board say the same things about other americans. what made us so protective of their reputations suddenly?
Have you not noticed how many Americans are dumb and lazy? I thought this was a matter of record. Are we now going to accuse leftists of being intelligent and hardworking? lol
He didn't say that, and he's not addressing the government indoctrination daycare center system to fix that. We can't have a generation fully and properly educated until the majority are home schooling, one-room schoolhouse schooling, or co-op schooling, with true American fundamentals drilled in to each little head. Anyone who looks at the nightmare that the kids are being put through would immediately recognize the failure.
Also, quantity of homework is a technique used to force mental acceptance that 'they' own your time and you will always be doing a lot of menial and meaningless tasks for them. It's programming at the earliest stages of development.
I took my girl out of 7th grade early on. At the time, it was because of health issues, and an undiagnosed mold sensitivity. As it turns out, it was close to the best decision of our lives.
Humans love to learn, and she became self-educated by looking for answers online about all kinds of things. She spent 3 weeks in a community college only to discover that the indoctrination continues there, so she quit.
Once the education system is geared towards learning things, teaching trades and art and music...all stuff that builds a good, healthy and happy society...we can get back on track.
My lord, didn't they get their creepy fingers into every flipping aspect of humanity? It's the growing public awareness of all the fuckery that brings an end to it.
How’s the mold thing working? Just started dealing with it myself.
We had a house fire last March that took the air cleaners we were using, but they worked on light technology. We had two, one in the bedroom, and one in the living room. They actually worked to mitigate what mold was present (and that we were powerless to eliminate), and when the bulbs burned out, which they do after a year or so, we definitely noticed a difference.
They're not cheap, but the alternative of having mold remediation is far, far greater an expense. Dietary changes help. Food sensitivity blood tests are pricey, but for us, they were quite necessary. We've been gluten free for years now as well.
This world has too many things going on that irritate the human body.
I pray that your journey is smooth and easy...although if a detox is necessary, I never heard anyone say that it's a fun time.
https://www.waterwise.com/product/air-wise-multi-room-air-purifier/
Completely concur. The current systems are deleting information, hiding it, rewriting it, squashing independent thought and creativity, replacing logic and critical thought with degeneracy, relativism and plain evil. We will have a heck of a time uncovering truth and putting it all back into the curricula. Especially history and medicine...
Rockefeller designed the modern day education system and he did it to build a nation of workers to work for his businesses. It was never about educating people. And until we as a nation understand that and redesign it, it will stay this way.
If people want to be educated, they have to pay for it by going to university.
I was with you until that last sentence, because unis have been the centers of woke commie BS from before the final lap of the elementary and middle school freakout. Very few 'higher institutions' even provide a reasonable education and almost none at a reasonable price. No, the education system needs a serious renovation and until then, I'd strongly recommend seeking alternative paths. Trade, skills, certifications, non-mainstream colleges, anything. Medical pharmaceutical agent system is a sham, law perhaps may be worthwhile if you're unafraid of losing everything fighting for right and just causes, otherwise I guarantee you will be able to find all the information you need outside of those pricey classes.
Perhaps pay for access to their libraries, perhaps audit a few classes if you think they have a super lecturer, but go get real experience in your chosen field as a paid intern and a degree, if needed, from the cheapest place possible. (Student IDs can be valuable for all kinds of discounts.) Only woke hr values big uni names but their influence is dwindling to nothing (we won't look at names anymore, they're more trouble than they're worth, overvalued, and dei is dying). The only other factor for college is if you think you need 'connections' with other students that you can't get elsewhere. I say, lead the charge and make social clubs with other based young people who also refuse to be programmed woke debt slaves.
I live in a "university" town. Everyone, I mean every single person, who works at this university had a Harris sign in their front yard. Some still have the signs up.
These people may be highly book-educated, yet they are dumb. They trust science and believe in man-made global warming/cooling climate change. They are anti-white and woke.
Some Harris supporters aren't dumb. Some are protecting the status quo. Example, protecting business owners who benefit from illegal population accepting lower wages and no benefits. Also, the illegal worker here sending USD home creates windfalls for their family in the home countries.
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Truth. I had to flee my hometown in Massachusetts because the illegals have filled up all the apartments, overwhelmed the schools, and pack the hospital with non-paying patients when they fall from their roofing / construction jobs or need to birth more "New Americans".
Several money-wire / transfer services popped up shortly after they arrived so we know for a fact that the money is transferred to 3rd world locations.
Could be describing boulder, weedorado.
Yes. Effective programming, mass formation psychosis. Hope we can undo some of it.
I agree with you and I know what universities have become in the west. But where else would one gain an engineering degree to work in an advanced field such as engineering? That was my point and even if universities are commie infested shitholes... The real fix is to remove the rot that has infested all of our institutions.
Auditing classes and self study are not going to get a person an interview or a job offer for STEM positions. You still have to get a degree. The first job to gain experience is the hardest one. IT is an outlier. Anyone can do IT. Here's why...
I am saying this as a system engineer with 20+ years experience and no college degree. I am 100% self taught. Learned Berkeley UNIX, then Linux and Solaris. Along the way taught myself storage and now work as an engineer for a Fortune 20. It can be done but it takes an entire career...
I also know several it folks without degrees, quite successful. Engineering? We can't hire any new graduates right now. Big companies like the one I'm in are starting their own programs because the products of unis now are worse than useless, they're woke. There will be a gap but we need to redo the necessary institutions, if any can be salvaged, else restart from scratch.
I was just speaking of this today with someone. Eiher we clear the rot from our institutions or we find a new way. Maybe apprenticeship programs for high school grads who are up to snuff? Or even companies running their own programs based on their own private criteria. Both are positive if you ask me. I do believe we can salvage the public institutions though. If we don't then the system is setting itself up to fail. All the private/apprenticeship programs will be fraught with fraud and nepotism. It takes good people to run these programs. How do we get there?
"Very few 'higher institutions' even provide a reasonable education and almost none at a reasonable price.... Medical pharmaceutical agent system is a sham, law perhaps may be worthwhile if you're unafraid of losing everything fighting for right and just causes, otherwise I guarantee you will be able to find all the information you need outside of those pricey classes."
People who write like this more often than not simply did not have the chops to perform academically and to parlay their academic success into gainful employment. And no - you will NOT be able to find all the information you need outside of those "pricey" classes. My current bill rate is $750/hr in part because I successfully completed course work, which included "pricey classes," some years ago and I am paid handsomely for what I know and what I do. It was not an easy road to get to this place.
I began my career 43 years ago as temporary lab tech holding 2 BS degrees in Biology and Chemistry (not-Ivy league). I had no scholarships and put myself through college working full time in retail and accounting. Entered pharma research, married my wife (celebrating 40 years this year), entered my first Masters program and completed a MS Biochemistry in 3 years - all night school + thesis. We had 2 children during the time I completed a second Masters in Business (MBA) in 3 years- also night school + thesis. After 10 career years in industry I went to work as a Review Chemist at FDA for 2 years, had 2 more children for 4 total while my wife - a STEM/business grad became a Director of R&D for her company.
I left FDA, returned to the pharma industry in regulatory affairs for another few years, left there, and launched my own consulting firm 29 years ago. Includes work in the legal field serving as a Subject Matter Expert Witness. I live in New England. My 6000 sq. ft. house on 2 acres was paid off 10 years ago. I plan to retire in 2 years. I billed ~ $1MM each of the last two years and our 401(k) is at multi-millions. Took parents in until they passed. Inherited little to nothing - did not outweigh the cost for their care. I and my family are happily un-vaxxed and I turned away business that required vaxxes. All kids college educated and gainfully employed - 3 of 4 hold Masters degrees. Two hold STEM MS's.
I have respect for tradesmen -- one of my grandfathers was a carpenter, and the other was an optician back in the day when they ground their own lenses. My dad was a doctor, wife's dad was a union card carrying electrician. Carpentry and electrical work last as long as the body can physically hold out - both can be brutal on the joints.
Bottom line- Proof's in the pudding: nothing beats stick-to-it-iveness, hard work, sacrifice, academic accomplishment in worthwhile fields of study, avoiding non-manageable debt loads, ultimately becoming debt free, and setting worthwhile goals - and giving thanks along the way for God's blessings. Success in building a career and a business often means more than just investing 40hrs/5 days a week. Too many fail to succeed because they get in their own way -- the willingness to do the hard work, to perform academically, to train adequately, to mature in their perspectives, and to plan their lives in ways that make good use of time too often is simply not there.
Lol TL;DR didn't get past the ignorance, you're ridiculously wrong. I hate the system that I fantastically succeeded in. It's programming and produces exactly what it's designed to produce- compliant, obedient wage slaves prepared for the inevitable consolidation with communism. I didn't learn that the designers of the system wrote that until relatively recently, thanks to the HSLDA, brilliant, dedicated lawyers there. The physics, chemistry, biochemistry, math, programming and business degrees YES could have come from books and nowadays, online teaching. I learned most on my own, from the libraries and the infant internet bulletin boards. I think you gave a life story that's too long and nothing but an anecdote. I have one too and it matters not a whit to the rest of the country, bless your defensive little heart.
TL;DR? The fact that you are so butt hurt suggests otherwise.
That you consider my life story as an "anecdote" of success simply reveals that you don't make it a point to surround yourself with the company of successful and truly accomplished persons, from whom you can learn a thing or two, as I do. Mine is only one of many similar stories. I am no one special. Any reasonably intelligent person can apply a sense of stick-to-it-iveness, hard work, sacrifice, academic accomplishment in worthwhile, objectively assessable and credentialed fields of study and arrive at the satisfying and happy near retirement as I have.
Your original posting was little more than a wailing litany of resentments. No evidence exists in anything you wrote that indicates that you "fantastically succeeded" at anything more than possibly becoming a drone and possibly losing your job to a sanskrit, when the true value of your self-styled in-substantially disciplined education and thinking skills deficits became apparent, and you may not have survived the competence v. cost comparison.
"The physics, chemistry, biochemistry, math, programming and business degrees YES could have come from books and nowadays, online teaching."
Is that what your clearly deficient infant internet board "education" taught you? Mere self-validation does not equate with acquiring seasoned critical thinking skills. Self validation leads to a mistaken sense self importance, and too often leads to an inability to be taught by others more accomplished than you are or ever were. People like you typically don't advance in your career because you come off as an insufferable, demonstrably incompetent know-it-all, incapable of managing change. You alone think you're great, but in truth you add no meaningful value to the employer, team, organization, or client that is measure-able enough to keep you gainfully employed.
You are THAT guy about which I spoke earlier who likely didn't have the chops or personal discipline for completing intellectually challenging academic programs, which in turn contribute to cultivation of an intellectual maturity and reasoning skills, borne of formalized and disciplined thought that opens the door wide for enjoyment of personal and career successes.
I'll challenge you to identify just one duly accredited degree program of merit in physics, chemistry, or biochemistry anywhere that relies only on textbooks and online classes. Course work in these disciplines requires a substantial number of laboratory credits and requires a cultivation of scientific reasoning through instruction beyond what mere texts contain. That kind of learning is achieved at a level requiring disciplined mental maturity which is not accomplished through online classes, or in diaper level chat rooms. Texts and online resources are merely a starting place for learning, but your presently immature level of understanding equates what may be appreciated as some tools of learning with the actual end point of learning itself.
" I learned most on my own, from the libraries and the infant internet bulletin boards."
"infant internet boards"? Listen to yourself. Education out of the mouths of babes, was it? Next thing you'll tell us how you mastered 8-bit on the "Trash-80," and wrote "cpm" and PeachText string onto 12" floppies, and somehow you'll expect readers to be impressed. What value have you added to tech lately without being able to rely on "infant internet boards" anymore? You whine today likely because your self-styled "education" did not prepare you to survive in a line of work that soon outpaced your competence and ability to keep up with the changes.
What ever it was you allegedly learned on your own was inadequate to deliver an education and a successful career path suitable to prevent you from whining about what you mistakenly conclude is supposedly every one else's fault but your own to be able to keep up at this stage of your life.
I provided my story as a testament to a successful career path accomplished in part through rigorous academic training, the type of which you resentfully derided, yet which for me by contrast has led to this present level of satisfying career success.
"I have one too and it matters not a whit to the rest of the country, bless your defensive little heart."
One reasonably expects that if your story was worth telling at all for purposes of acquainting readers with any meaningful successes you would have already done so.
Anything the Rockefellers touched needs to be scrutinized and likely redone.
He didn't use those exact words but it's obvious what he was inferring, in his own words;
"the reason why top tech companies often hire foreign born engineers over "native" Americans is because of culture"
Then he alludes to traits people associate with Indian/Asian kids, the emphasis on maths over sports, the emphasis on homework over sleepovers etc.
Top tech companies hire Indians because of A) cheaper wages and B) DEI policies that are explicitly anti white.
He never said he was against homework and he never criticised the education system, he said American culture was bad and that's why America needs to make the most out of H1B visas.
Not to mention this guy has spoken at Conversative Nationalism conferences which was created by a Zionist jew Yoram Hazony.
I agree with you, I was saying he didn't understand the festering dungheap that is the 'public' system. He SHOULD have been criticizing it, but he's still under the assumption that its purpose is to educate kids. He hasn't seen its reality, but he has seen television. OTOH, I've seen its reality and we banned television in our home. Also, he assumes his money-worshipping pagan upbringing is moral and good. With those assumptions, he cannot possibly explain the success of our Christian nation versus his parents' homeland, where everyone is brought up, according to him, with better culture. No one is as stupid as a 'smart' person...
Sauce?
He didn't overtly say that, but he gave a long winded attempt at creating a scapegoat as to why we ended up at the point that corps were in need of h-1bs.
You mean the long winded explanation of how Rockefeller education system dumbed people down, Media entertainment industry keeps them dumb and Big Junk keeps them unhealthy?
You can't have it both ways.
And accepting that the society has been manipulated for decades does not mean the people are inherently bad.
You saying you can't have it both ways is a false dichotomy. Accepting that our culture has been deliberately corrupted does not render Vivek's conclusion correct.
The best lies are entangled with truth. What Vivek did was present a single piece of a much more complex puzzle, and heralded it as a convenient scapegoat and justification for how we ended up in the current H-1B ordeal.
If you point me to the exact words he used, we can debate these beyond abstract points.
I mean it seems pretty apparent what post we are both referencing: https://x.com/VivekGRamaswamy/status/1872312139945234507?t=sY2ntPKE65BVRLvQFjxhsg&s=19
He didn't say that.
Protestant work ethic was once a key part of American culture and it sadly has faded away as society became more secular. Public school systems rotted from liberal ideology that said everyone should get a trophy and the worst thing we can do to a kid is bruise his self esteem. What's the saying? Hard Times breed strong men. Strong men breed good times. Good times breed weak men. Weak men breed hard times. So yeah, a lot of American youth have become dumb and lazy, and while I'm neutral on immigration in general, I'm all for instilling values into children (as well as into immigrants) that strengthen society.
That’s the way it is and always should have been.
Problem is people like him say things he thinks others want to hear, not what he himself think is right.
Same with people like Mitt Romney that flipflop on a daily basis for the same reason.
They are not trustworthy.
A lot of people were moreso mad at Vivek because they felt like he was insulting their intelligence and taking a shit on our culture with one of his posts.
that sounds woke af.
That the discussion of H1B and its devastating effect on American workers is FINALLY in the spotlight is nothing short of a miracle from my perspective, ergo I am a little detached from all the drama that is swirling.
Ultimately this will lead back to AMERICA FIRST.
Think optics. The stage is now set for displaced American workers to tell their individual stories ON THE NATIONAL STAGE about what has happened to them over the last 25+ years because of global labor arbitrage.
Similarly, the stage is being set for vaccine-injured and vaccine bereaved to do the same.
Not on the topic of immigration, but VR's regulatory stance would be very good for America IF we had a free press. For that matter, immigration would not have gotten to this abysmal heap-of-sh!t condition if we'd had fair, free press which gave equal time to both sides of an issue. With immigration, start by exposing the people/groups organizing, facilitating and pushing these invasions on America and many other countries including the money trails.
It all stems from the corruption-control of media by very bad players. FNM is evil and has been designed to destroy America (and the rest of the world, frankly) from the inside. Free press = Truth.
The requirement is free press + no clown money funding.
In that case, absolutely. NONE of these would have been this bad - election fraud, plandemics, vaccines, forever wars - NONE.
But it is so scary that people can be swayed from one extreme to another extreme so easily.
Uncontrolled illegal immigration is bad? Ok, lets get rid of EVERY immigrant.
Feminism is bad? Okay, every woman is bad.
LGBT is bad? Okay, ban every gay person.
Abortion is evil? Okay ban it completely, no exceptions.
This is how we have been, as a society, swinging from one extreme of the pendulum to the other extreme, being manipulated so easily, because we dont have the ability to take a deep breath and think.
I’m convinced Elon and Vivek are playing their roles in this movie.
They’ve brought attention to the H1B issue like nothing before it. All according to the script.
It could be playing two parts, bringing H1B into the spotlight and also allowing Trump to then distance himself from them for the sake of optics.
Nothing this snake says is worth listening to. https://rumble.com/v3xp2td-vivek-vs-obama-vivek-copies-obama-word-for-word.-will-they-fool-you-again.html
If sound bites like this can create opinions for you, it doesn't matter which side you are on. You will forever be brainwashed. Just the people who brainwash you will keep changing, and the people you will be angry against will be different each time, but fundamentally nothing changes.
Hate to burst your bubble, but you are assuming that the video clip I shared is what formed my opinion. If you assume things like this, ((insert what you said to me)). LOL. That was only a teensy fraction of the information I was exposed to on THIS FORUM regarding Vivek during the primaries that influenced my opinion regarding Vivek. That and what I personally witnessed during those debates - the way he was allowed to speak all of the "conspiracies" and anti-vax and the whole enchilada and not be corrected or stopped by debate moderators like any other candidate would have been... that was clear to me that it was staged and they wanted him to do that. They wanted him to win the MAGA crowd as their controlled puppet, they were pretty sure they were going to take Trump down and prop up Vivek as the alternative. Anyway, there is a lot of information out there, and on this forum, to strongly support the deep state Vivek the snake. I shared that clip because it alone raises red flags. Oh okay, so he used the same speech writer? So what?? Maybe, maybe not... it isn't just that... he's Obamawannabee in every sense. He's fake. He's going to say whatever he thinks is going to elevate him, not the truth, not what he really believes.
I can only assume what you show me. So far, that clip is the only thing concrete you have shown me.
Almost makes me think you don't understand that patriots have always been in control.
Again, unless you show me something specific, all I have seen are sound bites and out of context clips to portray a picture. Thankfully, I have graduated from that level of news consumption.
Dude, you are sounding like the MSM that takes sentences from Trump's speech and Hitler's speech and say Trump is Hitler.
Thank you for sharing your opinions.