Thank you. You saved me the need to remind people of this...
It's just some dude on his private web server putting this out.
It's in no way affiliated with any govt institution or anything else...
It's not predicting anything..."Aww but the super secret window!"
Mm yeah... it's like a digital scratch off lottery ticket... for people that like shiny, colorful things, with a little bit of religion and patriotism sprinkled around to make it all seem like a thing ...
It's only a "thing" if you say it is...in your mind.
He is still an element of the zeitgeist. A growing expectation that income tax is unfair and unnecessary and should be repealed is an important aspect of actually accomplishing it.
The site has been running for many years now, so I don't think it's just "someone in their mom's basement."
It takes some money to do what's been done here.
That doesn't mean that whoever runs this is in the know either. I personally think it's aligned with the atmosphere, and it meant to do good. I'd call it another visual reference tool for basic redpill dropping if you will. One of many avenues to use as a tool to help the Great Awakening. The chart alone can create questions in someone's minds just seeing the numbers attached to their respective titles.
Sometimes that's all you need to create a spark of interest/question within.
I always wonder about this. Could it be run by a larger entity? The same way they tell us Elon and a handful of nerds are allegedly exposing widespread fraud throughout the government.
I feel like these could just be the "face" of something larger and just what they tell us to justify the exposure. Maybe the debt clock is the same?
Wife and I paid 12K income tax for last year and we both worked lots of OT.
The no tax on SS, Tips, and OT was to gain voter support from Seniors, Majority liberal tipped people, and hard working OT folks in Unions. The real plan is no income tax at all, but it will have to be in phases. Tariffs aren't enough. Probably a VAT tax and even more government shrinkage.
Similar situation.. I was in a unique position where I could cash out or roll over my retirement plan to our new company's owners but my family's expenses have been stacking so much that I gave up my retirement fund to try and pay off my house. It wasn't enough thanks to all the taxes and penalties. Close, but not enough. 10+ years in an engineering dept. too. Not even a nice house. Our society is not thriving yet. Im glad to see all the good changes but I've yet to benefit.
A shame. My mother had many different jobs, but was a bank teller in 63 when she bought a home 50 bucks for 12 years and she eared 75 a week bring home. A single woman in the 60's...
If you work full time you should be able to live a decent life.
Engineering is a high skilled field and you shouldn't be in that situation.
Tucker Carlson interviewed Scott Bessent (Treas Secy) last week and Tucker asked him if DOGE's work and tariffs are going to be enough to remove the income tax and Bessent's answer was that it could relieve a lot of the burden from the individual taxpayer. I listened closely, 'eliminate' wasn't on the table, at least in this interview anyway. video 1 hour long approx. TC and Bessent intv
Would also make sense, though, to dangle the IRS relief or elimination of income tax closer to midterm elections and gain the bigger bang for the buck. Not only would that get the less-motivated voters to the polls for a midterm election but also might get voters to examine exactly who they would be putting into office or 'showing the door' with the midterm elections.
I asked Grok a few things and it's conclusion is concise enough.
Conclusion
The creator of www.usdebtclock.org remains unclear but is likely inspired by Seymour Durst’s original National Debt Clock. The developer could be linked to Chrono Numeric Labs LLC, given its role in the app, while ownership might rest with an anonymous individual or small entity, possibly Thomas Wilke or someone associated with the Michigan-based LLC. Alternative theories involving Douglas Durst or John G. Warner lack conclusive evidence, though Douglas’s familial tie to the concept and Warner’s speculative tech connections are intriguing.
As for whether the owner lives in their mom’s basement: there’s no evidence to suggest this. If owned by Douglas Durst, he’s a wealthy real estate mogul living in Manhattan, far from any basement stereotype. If it’s Chrono Numeric Labs LLC or an individual like Thomas Wilke, the Flint, Michigan, business address suggests a professional setup, not a residential basement. Even the John G. Warner hypothesis points to a California attorney with an established practice. The owner, whoever they are, appears to operate from a position of capability and intent, not a basement hideout.
If you happen to find a lamp, rub it, and a genie pops out - you may want to rephrase that. For most people the day when they don't have to pay taxes anymore is also when they don't need to pay rent, bills, or even eat, drink, or breathe.
It's hosted by godaddy, who makes it anonymous to us. To find out who owns it, one would have to get into the godaddy databases to get the info of the person uploading it from there.
"Who is they" has been addressed so I have to ask - Payroll tax vs Income tax. I can understand the technical difference but wouldn't payroll still be income?
I just checked too. Crossed out is definitely the wrong word. They appear EXTREMELY FADED. Like obviously faded more than anything else on the screen. The author of the X post seems to be exaggerating a bit. I’ll also say, said author is doing the same thing “Q experts” on Twitter were doing back towards the end of Q when Trump lost the election—talking in absolute language like they had everything figured out when they should have been proposing ideas as theories rather then fact. Beware of that bullshit. It’s what disillusioned 7/10 of our movement the first time around. Why is everyone at PDW so anti-Q? That’s why. Guys like that acting like they had secret knowledge they could speak authoritatively about when in reality they didn’t know dick.
DeFi, short for decentralized finance, is an umbrella term for financial services built on public blockchains, primarily Ethereum.
"DeFi bankless future" refers to the vision of a financial system powered by DeFi, where blockchain technology enables peer-to-peer transactions and financial services, eliminating the need for traditional financial intermediaries like banks.
You do know that the debt clock is run by some guy in his mom's basement...right?
C'mon man, he doesn't live with his mom his mom lives with him. He likes the basement because it's cooler down there.
Thank you. You saved me the need to remind people of this...
It's just some dude on his private web server putting this out.
It's in no way affiliated with any govt institution or anything else...
It's not predicting anything..."Aww but the super secret window!"
Mm yeah... it's like a digital scratch off lottery ticket... for people that like shiny, colorful things, with a little bit of religion and patriotism sprinkled around to make it all seem like a thing ...
It's only a "thing" if you say it is...in your mind.
The guy — whoever he is — seems to have his finger on the pulse of what’s going on. He’s been dropping clues a few years now.
No, he has his finger on the pulse of what we all HOPE is going on.
This. By and large, the site is hopium copy/pasta taken from a variety of sources then repackaged with a veil of mystique.
I put no bones in that place as the information has either already been dug up or leads to holes with no end result.
Bro, you hit the nail on the head. I go to 8kun for news and here for the hopium lol.
Exactly. It’s at least fascinating.
Wait are we talking about Alex Jones ?
Him too.
He is still an element of the zeitgeist. A growing expectation that income tax is unfair and unnecessary and should be repealed is an important aspect of actually accomplishing it.
Sauce? I've tried to determine who operates the site before but came up empty.
The only sauce I have is it's not an "official" site so "some guy in his mom's basement" is just as valid as anything else.
If all assumptions are valid, I'm going with the dude who paid for the Georgia Guidestones.
Nobody knows. That’s kinda what makes it fun.
The site has been running for many years now, so I don't think it's just "someone in their mom's basement."
It takes some money to do what's been done here.
That doesn't mean that whoever runs this is in the know either. I personally think it's aligned with the atmosphere, and it meant to do good. I'd call it another visual reference tool for basic redpill dropping if you will. One of many avenues to use as a tool to help the Great Awakening. The chart alone can create questions in someone's minds just seeing the numbers attached to their respective titles.
Sometimes that's all you need to create a spark of interest/question within.
I always wonder about this. Could it be run by a larger entity? The same way they tell us Elon and a handful of nerds are allegedly exposing widespread fraud throughout the government.
I feel like these could just be the "face" of something larger and just what they tell us to justify the exposure. Maybe the debt clock is the same?
It could be.
And it could not be.
Hence grain of salt
Wife and I paid 12K income tax for last year and we both worked lots of OT.
The no tax on SS, Tips, and OT was to gain voter support from Seniors, Majority liberal tipped people, and hard working OT folks in Unions. The real plan is no income tax at all, but it will have to be in phases. Tariffs aren't enough. Probably a VAT tax and even more government shrinkage.
Similar situation.. I was in a unique position where I could cash out or roll over my retirement plan to our new company's owners but my family's expenses have been stacking so much that I gave up my retirement fund to try and pay off my house. It wasn't enough thanks to all the taxes and penalties. Close, but not enough. 10+ years in an engineering dept. too. Not even a nice house. Our society is not thriving yet. Im glad to see all the good changes but I've yet to benefit.
A shame. My mother had many different jobs, but was a bank teller in 63 when she bought a home 50 bucks for 12 years and she eared 75 a week bring home. A single woman in the 60's...
If you work full time you should be able to live a decent life.
Engineering is a high skilled field and you shouldn't be in that situation.
Cutting the fraud and waste alone covers most of rhe taxes.
If not resume cutting.
Trump spending 1T for military, which eventually needs trimming. We don't need to be the police for the world nor the bully's
Tucker Carlson interviewed Scott Bessent (Treas Secy) last week and Tucker asked him if DOGE's work and tariffs are going to be enough to remove the income tax and Bessent's answer was that it could relieve a lot of the burden from the individual taxpayer. I listened closely, 'eliminate' wasn't on the table, at least in this interview anyway. video 1 hour long approx. TC and Bessent intv
Would also make sense, though, to dangle the IRS relief or elimination of income tax closer to midterm elections and gain the bigger bang for the buck. Not only would that get the less-motivated voters to the polls for a midterm election but also might get voters to examine exactly who they would be putting into office or 'showing the door' with the midterm elections.
They have to keep things running, so the IRS may fade away over time.
They need a big victory before mid-terms. Get rid of it NOW.
...midterm elections ? - mayb
VAT is a doom spiral. If they implement it, things will be a huge shitshow
I asked Grok a few things and it's conclusion is concise enough.
Conclusion
The creator of www.usdebtclock.org remains unclear but is likely inspired by Seymour Durst’s original National Debt Clock. The developer could be linked to Chrono Numeric Labs LLC, given its role in the app, while ownership might rest with an anonymous individual or small entity, possibly Thomas Wilke or someone associated with the Michigan-based LLC. Alternative theories involving Douglas Durst or John G. Warner lack conclusive evidence, though Douglas’s familial tie to the concept and Warner’s speculative tech connections are intriguing.
As for whether the owner lives in their mom’s basement: there’s no evidence to suggest this. If owned by Douglas Durst, he’s a wealthy real estate mogul living in Manhattan, far from any basement stereotype. If it’s Chrono Numeric Labs LLC or an individual like Thomas Wilke, the Flint, Michigan, business address suggests a professional setup, not a residential basement. Even the John G. Warner hypothesis points to a California attorney with an established practice. The owner, whoever they are, appears to operate from a position of capability and intent, not a basement hideout.
Grok - so literal. "Not likely a basement dweller but cannot rule it out."
Looking forward to the day when I don’t have to pay income tax anymore. That be a day of celebration for us ALL!
YES! A true Golden Age! ✨
Truly a Liberation Day if that happens.
If you happen to find a lamp, rub it, and a genie pops out - you may want to rephrase that. For most people the day when they don't have to pay taxes anymore is also when they don't need to pay rent, bills, or even eat, drink, or breathe.
Genie: your wish please!
Me: I wish for the annihilation all conquest…
Really that’s what all this is, you know
Who runs the US Debt Clock?
Who runs the US Debt Clock?
https://lookup.icann.org/en/lookup
It's hosted by godaddy, who makes it anonymous to us. To find out who owns it, one would have to get into the godaddy databases to get the info of the person uploading it from there.
I payed $20,000 in taxes last year.. I'd like that back thank you..
What is a "payroll tax?" Is that a new kind of income tax?
https://taxfoundation.org/taxedu/glossary/payroll-tax/#:~:text=Payroll%20taxes%20are%20social%20insurance,of%20that%20combined%20tax%20revenue.
"Who is they" has been addressed so I have to ask - Payroll tax vs Income tax. I can understand the technical difference but wouldn't payroll still be income?
I have no idea why posts like this keep getting stickied.
It's some dude's website. It's not like it's affiliated with Trump.
https://nitter.poast.org/echodatruth/status/1909726697596866620
I just checked the clock and nothing is crossed out ...
I just checked too. Crossed out is definitely the wrong word. They appear EXTREMELY FADED. Like obviously faded more than anything else on the screen. The author of the X post seems to be exaggerating a bit. I’ll also say, said author is doing the same thing “Q experts” on Twitter were doing back towards the end of Q when Trump lost the election—talking in absolute language like they had everything figured out when they should have been proposing ideas as theories rather then fact. Beware of that bullshit. It’s what disillusioned 7/10 of our movement the first time around. Why is everyone at PDW so anti-Q? That’s why. Guys like that acting like they had secret knowledge they could speak authoritatively about when in reality they didn’t know dick.
YES ps!! Yay!
Amen!! 🙌
“Thru don’t want you on the train when it takes off.”
The fuck kind of gay shit take was that? Based on what? Doom much?
Who is they
Also time machine shows 2025 going from red to black, and 2029 in the green.
Hmm I wonder what a "DeFI Bankless Future" is.
Here you are fren:
DeFi, short for decentralized finance, is an umbrella term for financial services built on public blockchains, primarily Ethereum.
"DeFi bankless future" refers to the vision of a financial system powered by DeFi, where blockchain technology enables peer-to-peer transactions and financial services, eliminating the need for traditional financial intermediaries like banks.
Thank you Joy's 1. Sounds like it could be a good system.
I believe it will truly be America's Golden Age! ✨💛