I suppose if that's what happened, then the dirtbag is dead and killed himself.
But... it fits into the Plan more strategically if he was a) murdered in his cell, or b) his death was faked and he is being water-boarded daily just for the hell of it. Yeah, that's how I feel because of what he did.
Anyway, I am scratching my head trying to make this make sense. If it was not suicide, then how does Bongino save face on this? Maybe he won't?
Not gonna lie... I'm pretty pissed about this part of the movie. I need some help.
Edit: I should have added this link... a lot of X posts, too:
From what I have heard....... Both Dan Bongino and Kash have said "There's nothing in the file to indicate anything other than he killed himself."
Well, ok, What's NOT IN THE FILE????
Are they playing a word game?
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/bongino-claims-new-video-evidence-will-prove-epstein-suicide-and-bags-improperly-stored
Bongino says a lot...
"Evidence" may prove it (legally) but what's the "TRUTH?"
Knowing lawyer think, they are going strictly by what they were told and by what is in the file. They will put their own personal beliefs on the side. Just the evidence, just the evidence.
who or what made the file? how do they know its the real file and not forged by ds agent
Exactly! I think he is in witness protection, spilling his guts. But if he is dead, then no impact.
didn't he say 'current' file? not sure that this makes a diff tho
I don't think it is legal for them to tell you if someone is in a witness protection program.
Good point. So that could be another way to save face, so to speak.
That plus “disinformation is necessary”. Thats what keep me going!
IMHO Bongino and Kash know Epstein is still alive. They know Esptein and Bill Barr had a close connection, through Barr's father, Donald Barr, who hired Epstein as a teacher at the prestigious Dalton school in New York, and both involved in child sex trafficking. Would be the reason Barr had to orchestrate a bizarre escape for his friend, and why Bongino and Kash are not showing their hand,that they know Epstein is still alive, using "misdirection" so Epstein is not aware that they know.
Maybe that Israel is exposing itself so deeply now, that Epstein, who actually turned into a whistleblower has fulfilled his role and is not needed anymore, now that his footage is in the white hats hands? Just my 2 cents.🤓
Very possible. But I had hoped White Hats had whisked him away, and that they would then expose Israel's attempt to fake his suicide.
Occam’s razor is your friend.
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I don't believe it for a second.
Right, but they are going strictly by the book and considering only the evidence they have. Of course, we know and they know there is more too it, but it needs to be introduced as evidence first.
but Epstein's camera on his cell wasn't working, we were told. So....now we don't know.
dont deny the evidence of ur Eyes and Ears
What is the goal of the Epstein files for Trump? Arrest people? No... Save as many children as possible, dismantle the networks.
I think the arrests are near the end of the dismantle phase not at the start.
Epstein killed himself and not a single sex trafficking CLIENT has been arrested.
I think it means that Bongino is dirty. They got to him. Whether it was a payoff, or a threat or blackmail; doesn’t matter.
The FBI is dirty to its core and anyone we send in there will be turned.
I don’t know if dirty is the right term. I actually believe that they believed they were gonna release the epstein files and kash was gonna clean house at the fbi etc.
Yes Kash and trump and everyone in his office have some power to do things but they aren’t in charge of everything, they aren’t at the top. The people at the top aren’t elected officials.
Even the president can’t release the Epstein files, he can’t just tell everyone what we know about ufos or about Kennedys assassination.
So it’s not that they’ve been turned as much as they’ve just found out that there’s major limits to their power and there’s nothing that they can do about it.
I don't care about excuses.
I only care about results.
I think he is alive and singing like a bird. If he is dead it will be surprise to me!
Thinking logically, if I had Epstein in a cell, hiding him from the world, blowing a very loud whistle.... and I ain't ready to go after all the perps yet, then yea... I'd say he was dead too. Otherwise a lot of bad guys that know they will get busted are going to be hunting for him and kill him for real.
Doesn't really make sense to me. Would those people be afraid of what Epstein has to say? or would they be afraid of blackmail material he had on them? In which case the FBI has that, since they raided him.
Best rationale, yet.
Maybe Epstein was switched with a clone/body double and it/he committed suicide. Why else have the guards not on duty and the cameras not working? This wasn’t something only important in retrospect, it was already a HUGE profile story before he “died.”
That would allow Bongino to save face, for sure.
Deflection. Appearing central and “non-conspiracy theorist” for the purpose of the media having the exact message he wants out there. He can feign surprise at the investigation outcome.
They created a fake suicide and did it in a way that everybody would know it's fake.
They could have offed him in some sophisticated operation, but they created an intentionally sloppy fake suicide. They had to want people to know that it was faked.
But why?
I think we may never know. I believe he was killed, like most of us do. The thing is, either way it doesn't change what he did, and anything less than seeing justice meted out to the guilty is a distraction.
I also assume that if it comes from the government and doesn't pass the smell test, it's a lie. Both sides do it and tell us it's for our own good.
I admit, I am a bit miffed by their statements as well. I believe many plausible theories have been put forth. I notice one theory not mentioned, perhaps he has given his video and written depositions already and has been Gitmo'd?
Oh, yes... totally hadn't crossed my mind. Very possible.
You have to consider: what would their position be if the DOJ faked his death and entered him into witness protection? I have no idea what really happened but they couldn’t very well tell you that happened.
It doesn’t matter. Either way. If Bongino is telling us the truth, it doesn’t matter. What matters is that Epstein was caught and the honeypot was dismantled and evidence exists they can use for leverage behind the scenes.
If Bongino is lying to us, it doesn’t matter. What it would mean he has a reason to lie to us, which I think I when I consider all the behind the scenes machinations that would make his lie useful.
Not sure my opinion is worthy of noting, but here it is.
If you consider the wording of both Dan and Kash, including that "Epstein killed himself"--- when someone goes into Witness Protection, their former selves end and a new self begins. Epstein, for intensive purposes, is dead.
Neither Dan or Kash can say he is in Witness Protection for his safety and the safety of his family.
I honestly believe that Epstein is alive under a new identity and that his old "self" was killed by his own hand, when he signed the paperwork agreeing to his new "self". Unfortunately, I doubt we will never know if my theory is correct unless they bring him back when all the Deep State people out to kill him are gone..
But......was that really Epstein in the jail cell or a clone?? Personally I thing he was switched out during his first hospitalization and he is hidden somewhere singing like a bird.
He's in witness protection or being held by the military.