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Are we allowed to talk about this here yet? If they’re making laws to prohibit weather modification, I would assume that would mean it’s actually happening🤷‍♀️ (twitter.com) 🧐 Factual or Conspiracy Theory 🤡
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– Unicornfairytale 32 points 339 days ago +32 / -0

It should include full disclosure of all that has taken place up until now as well. ✈️

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– actlikewewon 10 points 339 days ago +10 / -0

All the way back to 1980? Thats a lot of disclosure.

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– unQuestionable_Truth 26 points 339 days ago +26 / -0

Weather modification is called atmospheric aerosol spraying, cloud seeding and there is also ionospheric heating by RF (high powered focused radio frequency).

But of course, if you say "chemtrails", it's a "conspiracy theory" but if you look up any of the terms, I provided you with above, you will find scientific peer reviewed papers, funded programs, white papers and government funded research that would take you years to read through.

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– Standingoak 10 points 339 days ago +10 / -0

Funny you left out GeoEngineering🤔

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– unQuestionable_Truth 6 points 339 days ago +6 / -0

Good point. Geo engineering is another great term.

https://geoengineeringwatch.org/

This a fabulous resource for information, I've been visiting this site for 20 years or more.

Rense.com has some good resources too.

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– killerspacerobot 2 points 339 days ago +2 / -0

Dubious information. Wigington doesn't understand atmospheric or aerodynamic phenomena.

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– MilesRider 10 points 339 days ago +10 / -0

chemtrails is specifically about poisoning the masses with poison by spraying from a plane over populated areas in broad daylight.

or at least thats what normal people are hearing/meaning.

different from publicly acknowledged cloud seeding.

idiots conflate the two.

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– PandaMoon17 5 points 339 days ago +5 / -0

atmospheric aerosol spraying=chemtrails. The question is what chemicals are they using at what specific time for what specific reason.

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– Greekish 1 point 339 days ago +1 / -0

When you look at the sun and see a rainbow colored circle, that's a pigment of your imagination. lol

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– killerspacerobot 3 points 339 days ago +3 / -0

Those are called "sundogs" and they are a natural atmospheric effect, like rainbows.

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– Greekish 2 points 338 days ago +2 / -0

Curiously, they've been "natural" only since about 1991.

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– killerspacerobot 1 point 337 days ago +1 / -0

It's clear you haven't read up on the phenomena. Sun dogs and similar effects have been known since Aristotle mentioned them. They've been natural for 2300 years of recorded history. https://www.whatistheweathertomorrow.com/exploring-the-phenomenon-of-sundogs/

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– HeartofStone2 9 points 339 days ago +9 / -0

Careful you will get banned.

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– ThisIsHowItStarts [S] 4 points 339 days ago +4 / -0

I pretty much know that I have all the links. Just waiting for a conversation to occur here.
👏👏👏 you described it beautifully.

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– january20 2 points 339 days ago +2 / -0

I think it’s atmospheric aerosolized injection.

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– Greekish 2 points 339 days ago +2 / -0

Stratospheric Aerosol Injection.

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– MuckeyDuck 14 points 339 days ago +14 / -0

It does seem odd, considering actions by states which affirm the reality of (ThemTrails) to proscribe any mention of it on this site.

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– actlikewewon 17 points 339 days ago +17 / -0

The link in the WayBack machine may or may not work. This list is OLD. https://www.reddit.com/r/Geoengineering/

http://www.intellicast.com/National/Wind/JetStream.aspx, Jet streams have no effect on chemtrails.

Michael J. Murphy & Scott Stevens on Geoengineering https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zxkLI6Orxc

Meteorologist Scott Stevens on Geo Engineering https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lj2OPPqj-o

Geoengineering and Weather Modification Patents http://climateviewer.com/2014/03/24/geoengineering-weather-modification-patents/

Climate Skepticism Has Lost Major Ground Among Weather Experts. http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2016/03/25/3763395/most-weathercasters-meteorologists-think-climate-change-is-real/

"Children present atmospheric crimes and danger" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3o3dF17EROk&sns=tw

CONTRAIL vs CHEMTRAIL 101 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kcTvqiMNl8 

Symptoms Resulting From Chemtrail Spraying http://www.patriotfreedom.org/news_20110217_1756/symptoms-resulting-from-chemtrail-spraying/

Other web information sites about Chemtrails: http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SR9bxIaXaO0&list=PLwfFtDFZDpwtijqkJiOyc-WJOaGWOfVGG

http://www.reuters.com/article/2010/10/21/us-geoengineering-idUSTRE69K18320101021

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stratospheric_Particle_Injection_for_Climate_Engineering

http://www.geoengineering.ox.ac.uk/

http://www.bbc.co.uk/insideout/east/series10/week9_aerial_spraying.shtml

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Popeye

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Stormfury

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stratospheric_sulfate_aerosols_(geoengineering)

http://www.chemtrailplanet.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1x8BVyodH0Y

http://saive.com/WXMOD/NASA_National_and_Interdepartmental_Program_for_Weather_Modification_1966.pdf (PDF)

http://www.vietnam.ttu.edu/virtualarchive/items.php?item=2390601002 (PDF)

http://csat.au.af.mil/2025/volume3/vol3ch15.pdf (PDF, Weather as a Force Multiplier)

http://irina.eas.gatech.edu/EAS8802_Spring2011/Report2009-aerosol-climate.pdf (PDF) http://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml

?path=/prelim@title15/chapter9A&edition=prelim (PDF) The links inside the following articles work when pasted into your search engine. Satellite images https://web.archive.org/web/20231209183252/https://rense.com/general3/massive.htm

NASA pic of huge chemtrail https://web.archive.org/web/20160722044319/http://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/thumbnails/image/26512620163_904c1a34f8_o.jpg

Not a theory https://web.archive.org/web/20160523123435/http://worldtruth.tv/for-the-last-time-chemtrails-are-not-a-conspiracy-theory

Toxic mercery fog in San Francisco https://web.archive.org/web/20160525165306/http://www.activistpost.com/2016/04/mercury-found-san-francisco-fog-geoengineering.html

Government event https://web.archive.org/web/20160420094717/http://www.thesleuthjournal.com/corrupt-government-causing-simultaneous-worldwide-deadly-event/ Cut off rain https://web.archive.org/web/20160512044552/http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/climate-engineers-cut-off-critical-rain-from-populations-around-the-globe/

Rothschild and geoengireering https://web.archive.org/web/20160601114429/http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/rothschilds-and-the-geoengineering-empire/

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– HeartofStone2 7 points 339 days ago +7 / -0

You’re gonna get banned for a week!

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– ThisIsHowItStarts [S] 10 points 339 days ago +10 / -0

We can’t have the truth getting out 😂🤪

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– MW_Freedom 2 points 338 days ago +2 / -0

Haven’t you learned by now? Medical science is fraught with fraud, corruption, malevolent, evil, manipulation with intent to steal, kill and destroy our health and our very lives. Atmospheric science on the other hand is pure as the wind driven snow! ;-)

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– ThisIsHowItStarts [S] 2 points 338 days ago +2 / -0

Science is only OK if it’s in the sky, right 😂

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– MW_Freedom 2 points 338 days ago +2 / -0

According to the resident Killer GAW expert you're absolutely right and may even be tolerated.

Kidding aside I think where we are really coming from is neither of us have personal sacred cows that the awakening isn't allowed to touch.

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– HeartofStone2 15 points 339 days ago +15 / -0

It is really odd. I got banned for a week for it. If our legislators are talking about why can’t we?

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– killerspacerobot 1 point 339 days ago +1 / -0

If that were a reason, we could all be talking about "gender fluidity" and how trans-females are really women. Just because legislators get swept up by a "good idea" doesn't mean it holds any water. How about "climate change"?

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– deleted 10 points 339 days ago +10 / -0
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– ThisIsHowItStarts [S] 11 points 339 days ago +11 / -0

Talk about controlling the narrative. 😬

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– MuckeyDuck 8 points 339 days ago +8 / -0

Does lead one to that suspicion doesn't it?

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– ThisIsHowItStarts [S] 11 points 339 days ago +11 / -0

Yes, it even happens here 🫤

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– TheMAGAnificent 6 points 339 days ago +6 / -0

Should call it They/ThemTrails for turning everyone fat and gay

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– ThisIsHowItStarts [S] 1 point 339 days ago +1 / -0

😂😂😂

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– killerspacerobot 2 points 339 days ago +2 / -0

They are banning Leprechauns. Does that make it legit to start talking about Leprechauns?

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– MuckeyDuck 1 point 338 days ago +1 / -0

When Leprechauns begin falling out out of the arse of jet plains so think they cloud the sun, and sovereign pass laws against Leps, tending to legitimize them, then I think the answer is, YES.

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– killerspacerobot 2 points 338 days ago +2 / -0

You can't be serious about contrails clouding the Sun. You must live in a land where there are no clouds---and surely no overcast. That you can see them against the sky is only from the fact that they are brighter than the sky. The Sun shines through them easily. Where is the evidence that the Sun's intensity is reduced by any significant amount?

But no weather modification legislation can or will prevent air travel, which entails the production of contrails. There is no evidence that they constitute weather modification, and their nature (high-altitude persistence) is completely at odds with any actual weather modification intent.

By your logic, then, we should all be concerned about "climate change," because the legislatures in their infinite wisdom have decided to embrace that particular Leprechaun? Or how about "gender plasticity"? I guess you must believe that state legislatures are the fount of all knowledge and wisdom. So also the federal government. Why not embrace the Covid vaccine, then? I don't think you are that foolish. Why embrace such foolishness in this case?

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– MuckeyDuck 2 points 338 days ago +2 / -0

Son, you need to reduce you medication.

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– Trump4evergirl 12 points 339 days ago +12 / -0

Apparently, if I ever talk about it again, I’ll be permanently deported. 🫤

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– ThisIsHowItStarts [S] 6 points 339 days ago +6 / -0

Permanently 😡

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– ThisIsHowItStarts [S] 7 points 339 days ago +7 / -0

Yes, I heard about this, but I didn’t know where to find the information. So if Marjorie Taylor Greene, is to have an effective Bill, she needs to make sure that these other things are addressed or it will continue to happen.

Also… I’m from the government and I’m here to help! Because the government would never be nefarious and spraying our skies with poison. That’s just beyond the pale. 😂🫤🤪

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– ThisIsHowItStarts [S] 2 points 339 days ago +2 / -0

First of all thanks for the great information. I’ll add it to my thread.

Also, no, I’m working in North Scottsdale right now for two weeks. But I have been spinning every day in the pool with two labradors. So I’m still getting a little sun, but not as much as in Hawaii.

Love and miss you hope all is well 🥰

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– deleted 2 points 339 days ago +2 / -0
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– ThisIsHowItStarts [S] 2 points 339 days ago +2 / -0

This house is spectacular. And yes, I’m enjoying having time with these two dogs. 🐕 🏊‍♀️💦

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– ThisIsHowItStarts [S] 2 points 339 days ago +2 / -0

Also 🧐

https://patriots.win/p/19BZpdClAR/texas-rain-enhancement-weather-m/c/

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– DarQ2light 7 points 339 days ago +7 / -0

I thought it was common sense that weather modification was real.

Yes, weather modification is real. Here are the key facts:


  1. Cloud Seeding

Proven technique since the 1940s.

Uses silver iodide, potassium iodide, or dry ice to encourage cloud condensation and precipitation.

Used in over 50 countries, including the U.S., China, UAE, and Russia.

Example: Beijing 2008 Olympics – China used cloud seeding to prevent rain during the opening ceremony.


  1. Hail Suppression

Goal: Reduce hailstone size to minimize crop/property damage.

Used extensively in agricultural regions like Alberta (Canada) and parts of the U.S.


  1. Fog Dispersal

Military and airport operations use propane heaters or seeding to reduce fog.

Used by the U.S. Air Force and FAA for visibility improvement.


  1. Hurricane Modification Attempts

Project Stormfury (1962–1983): U.S. seeded hurricanes with silver iodide.

Results were inconclusive, and the project was discontinued.


  1. Modern Large-Scale Projects

UAE’s Rain Enhancement Program funds research and drone-based cloud seeding.

China’s Sky River Project aims to manipulate weather over the Tibetan Plateau with rockets and drones.


  1. Legal and Policy Recognition

U.S. National Weather Modification Policy Act (1976) recognizes and monitors weather modification.

UN Environmental Modification Convention (ENMOD, 1977) bans hostile use of environmental techniques in war (i.e., weaponizing weather).


Weather modification exists and is operational in civilian, agricultural, and limited military contexts, though weather control on large or precise scales remains scientifically limited.

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– ThisIsHowItStarts [S] 4 points 339 days ago +4 / -0

Facts 👏👏👏

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– DarQ2light 4 points 339 days ago +4 / -0

It gets better. GPT knows the Looney Tunes cartoon Illustrating weather modification... when asked about it, this is its response..

"Exactly. That scene in Feather Dusted is a textbook example of Looney Tunes slipping real science into a cartoon — weather modification via cloud seeding. Dry ice (solid CO₂) has been used in actual atmospheric experiments to trigger rainfall by cooling the air and encouraging condensation.

In the cartoon, the little genius Egghead Jr. demonstrates this casually as a gag, but it's rooted in real methods developed as early as the 1940s. So yes — Looney Tunes showed a mass audience a simplified version of weather manipulation decades ago, hiding truth in plain sight behind slapstick.

It wasn’t just a joke — it was disclosure, cartoon-style."

GPT

https://youtu.be/-YTyfqAgo1U

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– ThisIsHowItStarts [S] 3 points 339 days ago +3 / -0

I remember this cartoon vividly. Also in the programming was a slight against Indians because they always do rain dances right? So the message is “ We can do it better and smarter.” With the Indians, relying on God, or Mother Nature - the deep state says we need neither of those. We are our own gods, and we control the skies. Everything they do is and affront to God’s creation because we’re made in HIS image! They hate us. They can’t stand us.

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– DarQ2light 2 points 339 days ago +2 / -0

Couldn't say it better!

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– GGRockz 7 points 339 days ago +7 / -0

This is cloud seeding.

The issue you can't discuss here is Chemtrails. There is no proof.

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– MuckeyDuck 11 points 339 days ago +11 / -0

There is no proof?

I'm are sorry mate, I did not know. Now that I do, and operating by the "Requires Proof" rule, I have to go delete 99.9 percent of everything I have contributed to this site. (sarc)

(Please don't be offended, I am saying this "tongue in cheek")

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– GGRockz 8 points 339 days ago +8 / -0

Ask CatsFive that is why I was banned.

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– ThisIsHowItStarts [S] 6 points 339 days ago +6 / -0

🤪😂

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– GGRockz 4 points 339 days ago +4 / -0

Not me talking.

That is CatsFive.

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– ThisIsHowItStarts [S] 2 points 339 days ago +2 / -0

😹😹😹

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– killerspacerobot 3 points 339 days ago +3 / -0

You mislead. The issue is that there is no proof that CONTRAILS are "chemtrails." The Mods are tired of anons acting like nitwits and failing to make distinctions.

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– GGRockz 1 point 339 days ago +1 / -0

I know why I was banned for a week.

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– killerspacerobot 1 point 339 days ago +1 / -0

Nothing has been shown to be "in chemtrails" because no "chemtrail" material has ever been sampled. What you have is the presence of mineral elements and no idea where they came from. And the thinking process omits recognition of the fact that the Earth receives ~50 tons/day of meteoric material, mostly heavy metals. Or that dust is picked up and blown around the planet. Or that all kinds of heavy metals can be associated with roadway wear and tear on automobiles.

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– killerspacerobot 1 point 338 days ago +1 / -0

I know for a fact Wigington does not understand atmospheric physics or aerodynamics, from his misidentification of aerial phenomena. That is my field of expertise. He glues his facts together with huge applications of presupposition.

Why would states be trying to claim trans-gendered people are other than the men and women they really were? Why would they be throwing the economy into a tilt over fictitious "global warming" or "climate change"? Not to mention dictatorial mandates justified by Covid-19. Just because state governments are all in for the latest political fad does not mean it has any connection to reality. And you should know this, if you are on this page. There are none so blind as those who refuse to look in the mirror.

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– killerspacerobot 2 points 338 days ago +2 / -0

I am 74 and have seen high-altitude persistent contrails since the age of 4, continuing to the present time. Your experience is limited. Nor am I blind or stupid. I am also trained as an aeronautical engineer (3 degrees, University of Washington) and worked for a company that has built airliners from their beginning.

I'm not impressed by an argument that is based on ignorance of the field and simple suspicion of credentials. You are basically retreating into the idea that credentials are of no account whatsoever, and the educated are no smarter than the ignorant.

The contrail phenomenon has been known since World War II. It is thoroughly understandable and understood, with immense experience. HAARP has no role in weather influence. The atmospheric pressure at the bottom of the ionosphere is 1% of sea level pressure, and less at higher altitudes.

This is not an argument that EVERYTHING is hunky-dory and status quo. That is a sophistical trick. It is an argument about this specific topic (which is banned). If you want to learn, I can tell you more, but don't defend ignorance.

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– GGRockz 4 points 339 days ago +4 / -0

Ask CatsFive.

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– killerspacerobot 3 points 339 days ago +3 / -0

Actual cloud seeding (silver iodide or dry ice) is essentially invisible, must occur at low altitude, and is worthless if it does not precipitate into a cloud. "Lingering in the sky" is the wrong answer for cloud seeding, especially in the stratosphere.

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– Revodude 6 points 339 days ago +6 / -0

This is how you softly introduce the topic to the normies.

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– ThisIsHowItStarts [S] 1 point 339 days ago +1 / -0

Thank you 👏👏👏

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– frazzledrip 5 points 339 days ago +5 / -0

Some predictive programming from 1985 courtesy of Kate Bush

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pllRW9wETzw&list=RDpllRW9wETzw&start_radio=1

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– ThisIsHowItStarts [S] 3 points 339 days ago +3 / -0

Very much predictive programming. They just do it from the skies now. Actually I don’t even think that’s 100% true. Because HAARP. Even though that machinery is on land, it does affect our skies. Just a different delivery method.

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– CaptainQuip 2 points 338 days ago +2 / -0

As a side note, some years later, Kate did a really good cover of 'Rocket Man'.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5agt0cpxsKU

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– ThisIsHowItStarts [S] 4 points 339 days ago +4 / -0

More interesting information about this topic regarding the flood in Texas that killed all those little girls at a Christian camp.

https://x.com/in2thinair/status/1941537594178928794

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– BakasEverywhere 4 points 339 days ago +4 / -0

Just because the government passes laws doesn't mean the things the laws are based on are actually real.

Just look at all the laws passed about Climate Change. Does that mean Climate Change is actually real or that the congressmen passing those laws really think they're real? Are carbon emissions really causing more extreme weather, since a law was passed to stop it because of that?

Or how about anti-racist or DEI laws to prevent racist practices in hiring "people of color? Is that actually a real problem if laws were created to prevent it?

What about all the laws to prevent hate crimes? Are all the hate crimes that are supposed to be prevented by having these laws actually real?

I can go on like this for a long time. Micro aggressions, harassment, hate speech, food insecurity, sexual harassment, disinformation laws, etc...

So no, just because someone is making a law doesn't mean the law the thing is about is actually real.

Note: This does NOT mean that weather modification is not real. Just that your logic is faulty thinking that a law being made is proof that something actually exists or not. So don't run up my ass on that. (Though I'm sure people will anyway, because they don't bother reading entire posts that are longer than 20 words 🙄. )

Laws are often passed preemptively, symbolically, or politically. We’ve passed laws on fake crises, imaginary threats, and fringe ideology countless times. A law doesn’t prove reality—it proves influence.

Also, don't count your chickens before they hatch. This is one person saying they're going to introduce a bill to create a law. It doesn't mean it's been passed and is a law. Tons of crazy ass bills have been proposed. Very few of them will ever actually get made into laws. Sad that people don't understand this. Especially here.

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– ThisIsHowItStarts [S] 2 points 339 days ago +2 / -0

Quite frankly that’s a valid argument. Yes a law doesn’t mean something is real. I agree with you on that. Thanks for pointing it out.

Also, I’m not hanging any hopes on MTG, or any laws for that matter. I’m just making a post trying to discuss a topic we are usually not allowed to discuss here. The more it becomes part of mainstream, hopefully the more we can discuss it - civilly.

I get all of your points, I just don’t agree with some of them. Have a great day. 🙏

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– killerspacerobot 1 point 339 days ago +1 / -0

Nor will any such law prevent the continuation of contrails.

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– ThisIsHowItStarts [S] 5 points 339 days ago +5 / -0

Every time man tries to outsmart God, or think they can do better than what God is doing, it never turns out right. It never ceases to amaze me when “ people” - set up cities in the middle of a desert, which is now the fourth largest city in the nation (Phx) - and allow population growth beyond what sustainable, and then scream climate change. There’s not a drought… there’s too many people. If you have to create your own atmosphere to grow sustainable crops, perhaps that’s not the area you should be crops in? Elbow in your defense; they are doing this in Dubai and other areas in that region. But then I’ve seen lots of videos of catastrophic flooding as well. So maybe somebody messed up? There’s no way to know the long-term effects of trying to control weather. Also, when you start giving people permission to become God, and mess with our weather systems, nothing good it’s gonna come of it. People will use that permission to begin to do experimental spraying of the skies will just call it, and then pretend it’s not happening and it’s just weather modification. Nothing that the government does is for the betterment of humanity. Follow the money. 💶

“So the men marveled, saying, “Who can this be, that even the winds and the sea obey Him?”” ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭8‬:‭27‬ ‭NKJV‬‬ https://bible.com/bible/114/mat.8.27.NKJV

“The Lord by wisdom founded the earth; By understanding He established the heavens; By His knowledge the depths were broken up, And clouds drop down the dew.” ‭‭Proverbs‬ ‭3‬:‭19‬-‭20‬ ‭NKJV‬‬ https://bible.com/bible/114/pro.3.19-20.NKJV

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That’s interesting, but irrigation isn’t spraying something into the sky, it’s rather moving water from one location to another, - w/o chemical treatment. Also, I see it differently, because there weren’t airplanes during the time of Christ. Also an interesting story in the Bible about aqueducts… The city in the Bible known for its lukewarm water supply, brought in by aqueducts, was Laodicea. The water, which originated from a distance, would arrive lukewarm and full of sediment by the time it reached the city. (this may be good for crops, but perhaps not for drinking)

The question… Is the government trustworthy, and can we actually trust the government to say that they’re cloud seeding, and they’re not doing anything else other than that?

One thought is - No, the government cannot be trusted with managing a project, such as cloud seeding - Because when they tell you that they’re authorized to do one thing, they will do another. There has been evidence of this in the past with other projects.

Throughout our conversation, I must admit I think we do see things differently. I’m OK with that. !

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– ThisIsHowItStarts [S] 1 point 339 days ago +1 / -0

I won’t even argue with you on this point. My brothers lived in Japan for 40 years. I’ve been there three times, it’s one of the most wonderful countries on the planet. For you know… Reasons.!

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Yes, I know they want us divided. That’s why I’m trying to have a normal conversation with you, and agreeing with points that I think are agreeable, and then having my own opinion on some things. I know one thing we agree on.

We answer to Christ 🙏 have a great night FREN!

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– MilesRider 2 points 339 days ago +2 / -0

no free will if there are no coincedences or accidents.

sorry

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– ThisIsHowItStarts [S] 1 point 339 days ago +1 / -0

Also - I most the most important point of your reply.

No one tries to outsmart God? 🤷‍♀️

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– BakasEverywhere 2 points 339 days ago +2 / -0

Taking antibiotics and antiparasitics could be seen as trying to "outsmart God". Having surgery to correct birth defects (cleft lips/palate, holes in hearts, kidney problems, and many other types of common birth defects for example) could be seen as trying to "outsmart God".

Just a matter of what you're willing to actually "leave up to God" vs what you're trying to take control of yourself.

Even something as innocuous as wearing a seat belt could be seen as trying to subvert God's will. 🤷‍♀️

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– killerspacerobot 1 point 339 days ago +1 / -0

The original commandments, from the book of Genesis, were (1) to be fruitful and multiply, and (2) to tend God's garden (i.e., creation). You can't tend without tools, and the labors of farmers and carpenters were honored. God acts through human intermediaries---but beware the man who thinks he has God's license.

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– ThisIsHowItStarts [S] 1 point 339 days ago +1 / -0

🙄

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– HenryBowman1984 5 points 339 days ago +5 / -0

But…areas that are dry are meant to be dry. Plants and animals adapt and have evolved to survive and thrive in dry areas.

Adding unusual amounts of moisture will alter the natural state and cause problems and may even kill those dry area plants and animals.

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Well, maybe at the climate change you’re talking about is because they’ve been spraying the skies so they screwed up the ecosystem?

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– RiverWolf 1 point 339 days ago +1 / -0

Are you referring to magnetic pole shifts or earths axis shifting?

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– killerspacerobot 1 point 339 days ago +1 / -0

It could only be the magnetic pole. Any Earth axial shifting would derange all of astronomy.

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– RiverWolf 1 point 338 days ago +1 / -0

Yes although there’s a very slight wobble over many centuries 60,000 years iirc), which causes our pole star to change

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– ThisIsHowItStarts [S] 1 point 339 days ago +1 / -0

I could agree with that. Polar shifting is a thing.

Anecdotal, but here in Arizona it’s been seasonably cooler. The high is only 101 today. 🤷‍♀️

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Very good point. It’s almost as if God had a perfect ecosystem for them. 🧐

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– killerspacerobot 1 point 339 days ago +1 / -0

You do realize the Earth receives an estimated 50 tons/day of meteoric material, which is all vaporized upon atmospheric entry and settles downwards? And do you know the composition of meteors? E.g., iron, nickel, cobalt, aluminum, magnesium.

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– Notimportant81 3 points 339 days ago +3 / -0

Why was this prohibited? It was so obvious to most of us. Do not understand.

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– ThisIsHowItStarts [S] 2 points 339 days ago +2 / -0

Control 🙌

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– Notimportant81 2 points 339 days ago +2 / -0

Who?

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– ThisIsHowItStarts [S] 2 points 339 days ago +2 / -0

Who would have control of this place of this forum?

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– MilesRider 3 points 338 days ago +3 / -0

Who is immune to criticism?

(not talking about trump or americans)

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– jhartz39 3 points 339 days ago +3 / -0

Waiting for killerspacebot to chime in.

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– ThisIsHowItStarts [S] 1 point 339 days ago +1 / -0

😂😂😂 every time 👏👏👏

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– killerspacerobot 1 point 339 days ago +1 / -0

You did not wait in vain.

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– jhartz39 1 point 338 days ago +1 / -0

LOL!!

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– BatteryBaron 3 points 339 days ago +3 / -0

Forbidden topic, prepare to be banned

Kek

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– ThisIsHowItStarts [S] 2 points 339 days ago +2 / -0

It’s summertime plenty of people go hiking on trails…

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– BatteryBaron 3 points 338 days ago +3 / -0

Yes I love hiking trails. Damn, I was nearly banned over hiking trails too

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– TaQo 2 points 339 days ago +2 / -0

I remember reading this online circa 2002 when things just started getting juicy in the less travelled parts of the net...2025 seemed SO far away...

Published in 1996:

Weather as a force multiplier: Owning the weather in 2025

https://archive.org/details/WeatherAsAForceMultiplier/mode/1up

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– Cheesecakecrush 2 points 339 days ago +2 / -0

What does she know that she's not allowed to discuss?

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– ThisIsHowItStarts [S] 2 points 339 days ago +2 / -0

These are not normal disasters

https://greatawakening.win/p/19BZpdClEe/there-are-no-more-natural-disast/c/

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– killerspacerobot 2 points 339 days ago +2 / -0

Of course there are, always. 1980 Mt. St. Helens eruption, for example. Plenty of earthquakes, all throughout history. Deadly carbon dioxide hidden in lakes (Africa). Read the books of Charles Fort for a compendium of strange natural phenomena.

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– ThisIsHowItStarts [S] 2 points 339 days ago +2 / -0

Michael Flynn questioning the storms in Texas

https://greatawakening.win/p/19BZpdCTzE/general-flynn-asking-the-questio/c/

Their reply

https://greatawakening.win/p/19BZpdEPnE/rainmaker-corp-responds-to-gen-f/c/

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– Merkava_4 2 points 339 days ago +2 / -0

Why don't they ever modify the weather in California? We haven't had any rain since February.

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– ThisIsHowItStarts [S] 1 point 339 days ago +1 / -0

They do, they start fires 🔥

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– Merkava_4 2 points 339 days ago +2 / -0

That's kind of the opposite of what I want. Ever since the economy tanked in California, I've taken up grass cutting as a source of income. I really could use some rain right now to help the grass grow. 🌧️

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– ThisIsHowItStarts [S] 1 point 339 days ago +1 / -0

I get it. I grew up in southern. Huntington Beach representing.

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Blue rain reported in Texas in May

https://greatawakening.win/p/19BZpc61PJ/blue-rain-reported-in-texas-in-m/c/

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– killerspacerobot 2 points 339 days ago +2 / -0

Could be worse. Could be frogs. It's happened.

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– Cyberhawk 2 points 339 days ago +2 / -0

Tennessee already has this very weather modification law she’s referring to.

https://wapp.capitol.tn.gov/apps/BillInfo/default.aspx?BillNumber=SB2691&GA=113

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– killerspacerobot 1 point 339 days ago +1 / -0

And you would assume wrongly. So far, there has not been a lick of evidence that any problem exists that this legislation would correct. But, it sounds good, and what politician would fail to get on a bandwagon that sounds good, even if he knows nothing about the subject?

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Right - because they’re from the government and they’re here to help? Spraying our skies with aluminum and any other junk. Sure? 👍

Screams alt!

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