BRILLIANT Kayfabe. Musk KNOWS Trump is in the process of destroying the Fed and running up debt to destroy them is part of the plan. While we have the Feds credit card WHY NOT spend up BIG. After all WE aint paying it off.!
What's ironic ?...Because I've trusted Elon from day one, and continue to do so ??.
Some of you here are so quick to jump ship when in fact None of us know WTF is going on...
I definitely wouldn't want a few of you here to stand next to me in the trenches, so to speak....
How stupid do you think Trump and Elon are ?? You Underestimate BOTH of them....
Because you hiss and screech at any criticism of Elon, any indication that he’s not part of the plan, or any theory where he’s not a white hat. You don’t allow people healthy skepticism… Who cares that you support and trust Elon from day 1, that doesn’t mean we should or have to, and if you can’t stand next to us because of it - please stand by HIM and don’t try to make or equate this to Trump. Elon is NOT Trump and hasn’t done half the questionable or down right demonic shit Elon has! I don’t underestimate Trump at all and I don’t trust Elon at all, as several other anons… Maybe that’s the bigger issue you’re having with people differing opinions on people YOU put on a pedestal.
None of you has thought even for a moment that by 'starting' a new Political party, He's "exposing' ALL the RINOS and 'Independents' who are against MAGA, who have already shown their support...Mark Cuban, Anthony Scaramucci, Brian Krassenstein, Thomas Massie and Mike Pence, to name a few....
You seem to think this is so clear cut, I'm amazed...
Its a fucking show, and if i'm wrong when it all comes to light, Ill be the first to admit it...But until then, I'm following the plan set out by Q....
Because you hiss and screech at any criticism of Elon
Dude, Dont be a fucking moron...
You don’t allow people healthy skepticism
Really....Who's the one being 'sceptic? You, it seems, because for the last 4 5 months, while he was 'working' with Trump & DOGE, not a peep, but now all of a sudden you & others know Elon's Motives ?? You Really Underestimate Elon's intelligence my man...
I don't care whether or not you or others don't trust Elon. My comment was related to this....👇👇👇You seem to think that YOU're right and we who trust Elon are wrong...THATS YOUR OPINION, which I and Others Disagree with, hence my original Comment.....(Ignorant comment)
but you can’t pry this board from their favorite worlds richest man, it’s gotta be a slow peel.
I don't understand why the need for Kayfabe if Elon agrees Fed should be destroyed.. oh I know... Because Trump is a master of reality TV and all they do is fight and that's what makes good tv like the Real Housewives, Kardashians, Jerry Springers.. and people have small attention span, they only take note when 2 people are fighting.. so weird how marketing and brains work
Re-watching the Apprentice as someone on this board said they did. It really is astonishing how well loved he was, how there was an entire show devoted to people fighting to work for him. He was so respected amongst so many different people and celebrities.
Also the whole season finale of the first season, how the walls fall down on the set and there’s a studio audience. The facade lifted revealing that it was all a show and a set. Foreshadowing maybe? 🤔
It also might take some heat off of Elon …..re: death threats and such from the TDS’ers. Maybe some heat off of tesla co. too if there is an angry public separation between them ( DJT / Elon).
Exactly this. Trump knows it's fake money system so why not continue using the fake money and putting pressure on them in other areas they used to use to hide, relive pressure from the increase in money supply. Once the fed collapses from the pressure, it allows Trump to show the public the corruption led to its collapse, then they can teach the public about the non federal FED and remove it for good.
Better than a decade ago, I noticed that just about EVERY large country was multiples of their yearly GDP in debt. As I mulled that, questions like "in debt to who??", and "why don't they just scale the debt off of all the countries??" eventually were eye openers for me on the debt slavery scam.
The United States has been bankrupt for a long time. Because of the shoot that he found being done with our tax dollars. I think this spat between Trump and Musk is to get the heat off of Musk and his business. Unlike Trump, I do not think Musk is interested in losing his empire. Trump's love for America was so much that he was willing to put his money where his mouth is.
I picture it more as the Titanic sinking, but this time it's not the three guys voting against the Federal Reserve going down with it, but rather the money changer goblins that made a living off getting everyone else miserably into impossible to pay off debt situations and making the cold plunge into the abyss.
You know, the ones that intentionally helped quash efforts to solve world hunger & homelessness. Yeah, golden age IS inbound.
He makes it clear that Trump does not bend even for the richest man in the world and with taking away the EV subsidies Trump made it clear Elon wasn't supporting him for a kickback.
It's funny isn't it. Instead of just asking the person, he posts to the internet proclaiming his lack of understanding. Bizarre if you ask me. It's not how I would find information I wanted to know. Almost a form of retardation.
Probably lack of H1B support, not getting his NASA appt, DOGE coin not being part of the strategic reserve, OpenAI getting the DoD contract, Starlink not getting contracts for rural Internet, EVs not being prioritized, etc. Basically not supporting his pet projects enough. He's also said he felt like DOGE wasn't defended enough and that he's been made to be a scapegoat.
However, I think each of these was the right call. With DOGE he also made too many decisions based on a short timeline (his own) and impossibly high goals (again his own). He could have spent more time actually setting up the org for long term success, but instead it was weird podcasts about magic money machines and other nonsense.
Well with the treasonous congress demons, how are we supposed to get a balanced budget or budget cuts? That won't happen until they're arrested and replaced with new members through special elections.🤷♀️ Elon has no common sense which is normal for book-smart people. They have no street smarts.
I think he is very capable of understanding what's going on. I think this is theater. Not sure why. Perhaps to save Musk's empire and Trump is in on it?
I think because Trump is good at reality TV after being in The Apprentice for so many years ,,, just like the Real housewives, kardashians, etc, a fight is how you make people pay attention... maybe a sleight of hand..look here, don't look there
that is the maimstream conventional wisdom. what is happenimg? msm is converging with q and the anons now at a faster rate than I'm able to make sense of.
As a supposed business tycoon and genius, Musk should not only be able to understand the strategy, but also explain it.
POTUS is in the process of exposing that the biggest problem our government has is a revenue problem. And, the revenue problem, in large part, was created by trade agreements that were nothing more than transfer payments to other countries. It should also be noted that our cost of medical care was also a form of transfer payments.
I don’t know if the Musk drama is kayfabe or Musk trying to protect his personal pipeline of government subsidies. Or, maybe Musk was a plant. His timing was suspicious, he becomes a Trump supporter on the day of the failed assassination attempt? And, lest we forget, drops 209, 211, and others, Q cast suspicion on Musk and his enterprises.
The biggest problem is the DS and the illusions they create to control us. When fraud, waste, and abuse are eliminated and President Trump’s work on the revenue side are complete, we will be amazed at our Government’s financial picture.
The biggest problem imo was supposed to be the missing, murdered and eaten children by the co-workers and very top elites also in their midst. That, the raison d'être is consistently left out of most discussions that mention "the biggest problem", is disturbing.
If the biggest problem is money, may god have mercy on our souls.
He's creating a new party and promoting it on X, and we know he has enough money and visibility to affect an election. People thought Musk influenced the election win for Trump, and this doesn't help. He's targeting MAGA people that listened to him only a few months ago.
yh people are coping so badly on here its nuts. this is not a plan or a movie in terms of the Q stuff. there is no other purpose than to dissuade normies and reluctant Trump voters to abandon us in the midterms which will hand the House to Dems and get Trump impeached and nuke our agenda. Its bizarre people here think this aspect is a plan or movie.
Musk is just temperamental and a hyperactive autist. Look at his choice in baby mummas ffs. Especially his recent one, and blatantly cheating in video games and denying it to avid hardcore gamers who could identify it in seconds.
Yeah. Musk always came with risks IMO. If you listen to everything he's said, he's singularly focused on his own vision/companies. For a while that aligned with Trump, but it came with caveats. People want him to be something he's just not, a regular supporter or a pseudo VP. He's smart, and I really don't think he's intentionally malicious, but Im not surprised he would want to have more control and this would be an obvious way to do that.
Look, it is "possible" that Musk and Trump are so at odds that Musk is willing to hand government control back to the Dems with this maneuver. But wildly unlikely. Musk knows that his new party would peel GOP votes away and cause Dems to win every race where a third party candidate is in play.
No way he prefers Dem control to Trump and team.
And I think we can all agree that he isn't a moron.
This is all being done for effect. Trump didn't want to raise the debt limit. But he needed to do it in order to get the border secured, stop the judges who keep saying they hate his executive orders, make his tax cuts permanent, etc. Now on to phase II of killing the Fed and lowering our national debt. And suddenly, Musk is on board again and saying he and Trump are best buds.
It's impossible to imagine that Trump and Musk didn't talk about this very strategy many times.
Wow. I hate to see this bickering. Here's my unprovoked, haven't been active on GA long enough to have an opinion. Opinion.
I'm just going to wait and see. I trust Trump. I'm not worried. I don't feel like Musk is much more than a chess piece in this.
I don't claim that I know things that I don't positively know. And I've already learned to be careful to keep my mouth shut most of the time here.
I'd ask everyone to cool down a little. We newbies are learning. Cut us a little bit of slack and hopefully guide us maybe with a little more friendliness. Thanks. 😁👍🇺🇲
You need maneuvering room to do anything. If President Trump says he needs it, he needs it. He hasn’t failed to deliver on anything
Musk has made scores of promises he failed to deliver. How many decades he he promise autopilot before he delivered? Remember the $40k CyberTruck and the 600 mile range? How about a successful Starship mission before we cancel Artemis?
I remember watching a documentary on Musk & Tesla years ago.... he was so far in the hole during its development, borrowing more & more money to get it to where Tesla could be sold in mass production reliably.... so I KNOW he KNOWS it takes (a lot of) money to make money..... kind of a weird hill to die on IMO with him....
How can Elon miss the fact that thenu.s. dollar is collapsing. This is a calamity for the deep state. Spending speeds up the problems cycle and raising the rates is theirnonly way to temporarily relieve it. The debt is not the peoples or the constitutional U.S debt.
Elon is a spoiled brat who didn't get his way. He couldn't buy PDJT the way that Soros buys the Dems. Elon's "America Party" is full of FOREIGNERS, Never Trumpers, Rejects like Scaramucci.
He's now attacking the excellent Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent who's a better man than he'll ever be.
Elon doesn't love America, it's just an ATM machine for him and that ATM got cut off in the BBB.
BRILLIANT Kayfabe. Musk KNOWS Trump is in the process of destroying the Fed and running up debt to destroy them is part of the plan. While we have the Feds credit card WHY NOT spend up BIG. After all WE aint paying it off.!
I don’t think it’s a kayfabe anymore unfortunately..
Most of us that never trusted Elon know it’s not, but you can’t pry this board from their favorite worlds richest man, it’s gotta be a slow peel.
Ignorant comment....
All these comments are from people who joined four years ago with limited amount of comments.
Ironic reply.. We know how much you love your fellow South African 1%er.
What's ironic ?...Because I've trusted Elon from day one, and continue to do so ??. Some of you here are so quick to jump ship when in fact None of us know WTF is going on... I definitely wouldn't want a few of you here to stand next to me in the trenches, so to speak.... How stupid do you think Trump and Elon are ?? You Underestimate BOTH of them....
Because you hiss and screech at any criticism of Elon, any indication that he’s not part of the plan, or any theory where he’s not a white hat. You don’t allow people healthy skepticism… Who cares that you support and trust Elon from day 1, that doesn’t mean we should or have to, and if you can’t stand next to us because of it - please stand by HIM and don’t try to make or equate this to Trump. Elon is NOT Trump and hasn’t done half the questionable or down right demonic shit Elon has! I don’t underestimate Trump at all and I don’t trust Elon at all, as several other anons… Maybe that’s the bigger issue you’re having with people differing opinions on people YOU put on a pedestal.
None of you has thought even for a moment that by 'starting' a new Political party, He's "exposing' ALL the RINOS and 'Independents' who are against MAGA, who have already shown their support...Mark Cuban, Anthony Scaramucci, Brian Krassenstein, Thomas Massie and Mike Pence, to name a few.... You seem to think this is so clear cut, I'm amazed... Its a fucking show, and if i'm wrong when it all comes to light, Ill be the first to admit it...But until then, I'm following the plan set out by Q....
Dude, Dont be a fucking moron...
Really....Who's the one being 'sceptic? You, it seems, because for the last 4 5 months, while he was 'working' with Trump & DOGE, not a peep, but now all of a sudden you & others know Elon's Motives ?? You Really Underestimate Elon's intelligence my man...
I don't care whether or not you or others don't trust Elon. My comment was related to this....👇👇👇You seem to think that YOU're right and we who trust Elon are wrong...THATS YOUR OPINION, which I and Others Disagree with, hence my original Comment.....(Ignorant comment)
It should be so apparently obvious this is WWE level theatrics that you should be enjoying it
The only hissing and screeching I see are from people who are ready to discard Elon instantly.
I think they jumped ship before they even appeared here. All of sudden these loons are making a lot of noise. How convenient.
Doomers gonna doom. They live life in a constant state of "nothings happening".
Totally agree!
You cry ignorance, but yet it is you who is ignorant to the dark occultic background of Musk and his family.
Go find the Kanye and musk tweet about "the boys in orange". I think this is when they took the deal to join maga and get out of their blackmail
I don't understand why the need for Kayfabe if Elon agrees Fed should be destroyed.. oh I know... Because Trump is a master of reality TV and all they do is fight and that's what makes good tv like the Real Housewives, Kardashians, Jerry Springers.. and people have small attention span, they only take note when 2 people are fighting.. so weird how marketing and brains work
Re-watching the Apprentice as someone on this board said they did. It really is astonishing how well loved he was, how there was an entire show devoted to people fighting to work for him. He was so respected amongst so many different people and celebrities.
Also the whole season finale of the first season, how the walls fall down on the set and there’s a studio audience. The facade lifted revealing that it was all a show and a set. Foreshadowing maybe? 🤔
I believe you are ON TARGET ozthentic! 🎯
Who is paying off the national debt then?
It also might take some heat off of Elon …..re: death threats and such from the TDS’ers. Maybe some heat off of tesla co. too if there is an angry public separation between them ( DJT / Elon).
IDK?
Musk said it will bankrupt the country.---I think the objective is to bankrupt the Fed.
Exactly this. Trump knows it's fake money system so why not continue using the fake money and putting pressure on them in other areas they used to use to hide, relive pressure from the increase in money supply. Once the fed collapses from the pressure, it allows Trump to show the public the corruption led to its collapse, then they can teach the public about the non federal FED and remove it for good.
Exactly! Once the Fed is bankrupt, the corruption shown, EO13818 can allow the Treasury to confiscate all those bankers money!
Since debt is all owed back to the central banks ultimately, once they go belly up, we (as a whole) have no debt.
Better than a decade ago, I noticed that just about EVERY large country was multiples of their yearly GDP in debt. As I mulled that, questions like "in debt to who??", and "why don't they just scale the debt off of all the countries??" eventually were eye openers for me on the debt slavery scam.
then we can have everything run with real money. i wonder what my lunch tacos will cost. will they taste better? hard to imagine
The United States has been bankrupt for a long time. Because of the shoot that he found being done with our tax dollars. I think this spat between Trump and Musk is to get the heat off of Musk and his business. Unlike Trump, I do not think Musk is interested in losing his empire. Trump's love for America was so much that he was willing to put his money where his mouth is.
Awesome comment! I especially enjoyed visualizing us slowly sinking in the fat retard boat.
I picture it more as the Titanic sinking, but this time it's not the three guys voting against the Federal Reserve going down with it, but rather the money changer goblins that made a living off getting everyone else miserably into impossible to pay off debt situations and making the cold plunge into the abyss.
You know, the ones that intentionally helped quash efforts to solve world hunger & homelessness. Yeah, golden age IS inbound.
Yes the entity that borrowed was the now bankrupt corporation
He makes it clear that Trump does not bend even for the richest man in the world and with taking away the EV subsidies Trump made it clear Elon wasn't supporting him for a kickback.
This doesn't matter. If Musk didn't understand what was being done, he should've asked. If he doesn't agree with it, he's a chameleon.
It's funny isn't it. Instead of just asking the person, he posts to the internet proclaiming his lack of understanding. Bizarre if you ask me. It's not how I would find information I wanted to know. Almost a form of retardation.
Or it's kayfabe.
THIS!!☝️
👌👌
"the last straw...."
Well, what were the other straws?
Probably lack of H1B support, not getting his NASA appt, DOGE coin not being part of the strategic reserve, OpenAI getting the DoD contract, Starlink not getting contracts for rural Internet, EVs not being prioritized, etc. Basically not supporting his pet projects enough. He's also said he felt like DOGE wasn't defended enough and that he's been made to be a scapegoat.
However, I think each of these was the right call. With DOGE he also made too many decisions based on a short timeline (his own) and impossibly high goals (again his own). He could have spent more time actually setting up the org for long term success, but instead it was weird podcasts about magic money machines and other nonsense.
Basically the mainstream medias reporting was agreeing with all these points, but months ago. Hard to believe.
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Well with the treasonous congress demons, how are we supposed to get a balanced budget or budget cuts? That won't happen until they're arrested and replaced with new members through special elections.🤷♀️ Elon has no common sense which is normal for book-smart people. They have no street smarts.
I think he is very capable of understanding what's going on. I think this is theater. Not sure why. Perhaps to save Musk's empire and Trump is in on it?
I would like to believe it's part of the movie, let's hope.
I think because Trump is good at reality TV after being in The Apprentice for so many years ,,, just like the Real housewives, kardashians, etc, a fight is how you make people pay attention... maybe a sleight of hand..look here, don't look there
that is the maimstream conventional wisdom. what is happenimg? msm is converging with q and the anons now at a faster rate than I'm able to make sense of.
As a supposed business tycoon and genius, Musk should not only be able to understand the strategy, but also explain it.
POTUS is in the process of exposing that the biggest problem our government has is a revenue problem. And, the revenue problem, in large part, was created by trade agreements that were nothing more than transfer payments to other countries. It should also be noted that our cost of medical care was also a form of transfer payments.
I don’t know if the Musk drama is kayfabe or Musk trying to protect his personal pipeline of government subsidies. Or, maybe Musk was a plant. His timing was suspicious, he becomes a Trump supporter on the day of the failed assassination attempt? And, lest we forget, drops 209, 211, and others, Q cast suspicion on Musk and his enterprises.
u/#q209
u/#q211
The biggest problem is not revenue but spending.
The biggest problem is the DS and the illusions they create to control us. When fraud, waste, and abuse are eliminated and President Trump’s work on the revenue side are complete, we will be amazed at our Government’s financial picture.
The biggest problem imo was supposed to be the missing, murdered and eaten children by the co-workers and very top elites also in their midst. That, the raison d'être is consistently left out of most discussions that mention "the biggest problem", is disturbing.
If the biggest problem is money, may god have mercy on our souls.
The real question is who controls Space X and Starlink? One obvious answer..
What real loss would one chameleon be to the overall picture?
Musk is trying to destroy MAGA, starting with the midterms.
He owns twitter, so let the manipulation begin
No he isn't. I think this actually makes people stop thinking musk run trump. That trump will stand against musk publicly kills the b.s.
He's creating a new party and promoting it on X, and we know he has enough money and visibility to affect an election. People thought Musk influenced the election win for Trump, and this doesn't help. He's targeting MAGA people that listened to him only a few months ago.
yh people are coping so badly on here its nuts. this is not a plan or a movie in terms of the Q stuff. there is no other purpose than to dissuade normies and reluctant Trump voters to abandon us in the midterms which will hand the House to Dems and get Trump impeached and nuke our agenda. Its bizarre people here think this aspect is a plan or movie.
Musk is just temperamental and a hyperactive autist. Look at his choice in baby mummas ffs. Especially his recent one, and blatantly cheating in video games and denying it to avid hardcore gamers who could identify it in seconds.
Yeah. Musk always came with risks IMO. If you listen to everything he's said, he's singularly focused on his own vision/companies. For a while that aligned with Trump, but it came with caveats. People want him to be something he's just not, a regular supporter or a pseudo VP. He's smart, and I really don't think he's intentionally malicious, but Im not surprised he would want to have more control and this would be an obvious way to do that.
I understood that perfectly, which part of confusing to you?
That’s retarded
Not very comprehending of political realities is he
Look, it is "possible" that Musk and Trump are so at odds that Musk is willing to hand government control back to the Dems with this maneuver. But wildly unlikely. Musk knows that his new party would peel GOP votes away and cause Dems to win every race where a third party candidate is in play.
No way he prefers Dem control to Trump and team.
And I think we can all agree that he isn't a moron.
This is all being done for effect. Trump didn't want to raise the debt limit. But he needed to do it in order to get the border secured, stop the judges who keep saying they hate his executive orders, make his tax cuts permanent, etc. Now on to phase II of killing the Fed and lowering our national debt. And suddenly, Musk is on board again and saying he and Trump are best buds.
It's impossible to imagine that Trump and Musk didn't talk about this very strategy many times.
THIS! ☝️
👌👌😎
Wow. I hate to see this bickering. Here's my unprovoked, haven't been active on GA long enough to have an opinion. Opinion.
I'm just going to wait and see. I trust Trump. I'm not worried. I don't feel like Musk is much more than a chess piece in this.
I don't claim that I know things that I don't positively know. And I've already learned to be careful to keep my mouth shut most of the time here.
I'd ask everyone to cool down a little. We newbies are learning. Cut us a little bit of slack and hopefully guide us maybe with a little more friendliness. Thanks. 😁👍🇺🇲
The budget deficit is only increased if the economy isn't grown. But it will be.
Surprised Musk is such a short term thinker.
You need maneuvering room to do anything. If President Trump says he needs it, he needs it. He hasn’t failed to deliver on anything
Musk has made scores of promises he failed to deliver. How many decades he he promise autopilot before he delivered? Remember the $40k CyberTruck and the 600 mile range? How about a successful Starship mission before we cancel Artemis?
One doth protest too much
And the Tesla share price is collapsing. He is the easiest target in corporate America now. No party supports him.
I remember watching a documentary on Musk & Tesla years ago.... he was so far in the hole during its development, borrowing more & more money to get it to where Tesla could be sold in mass production reliably.... so I KNOW he KNOWS it takes (a lot of) money to make money..... kind of a weird hill to die on IMO with him....
Remember, we only know about 20% of what is really going on, if that.
How can Elon miss the fact that thenu.s. dollar is collapsing. This is a calamity for the deep state. Spending speeds up the problems cycle and raising the rates is theirnonly way to temporarily relieve it. The debt is not the peoples or the constitutional U.S debt.
Good create another party that basically wants the same thing! Bhahaha
Elon is a spoiled brat who didn't get his way. He couldn't buy PDJT the way that Soros buys the Dems. Elon's "America Party" is full of FOREIGNERS, Never Trumpers, Rejects like Scaramucci.
He's now attacking the excellent Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent who's a better man than he'll ever be.
Elon doesn't love America, it's just an ATM machine for him and that ATM got cut off in the BBB.
I always thought there would be a clash of large egos with those two. But I did not think Elon would go as far as he has.
If I were our President,I would not release any information to anyone.Only orders.