Treason against the United States shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.
Obama and others conspired to give aid and comfort to our enemies, both foreign and domestic. Our enemies are anyone who would attempt to overthrow the government. There is no need for a war, declared or otherwise.
To commit Treason, one doesn't even have to ALL of those things like Make War on the States, nor GIVE AID AND COMFORT to our Enemies....
Just very simply ADHERE to them....
TO PICK A SIDE....
Americas Enemies:: Globalists, Islam, Cartels, World Bankers, Most Foreign Nations, ILLEGAL INVADING ALIENS....
Adhering definition: attaching or staying attached; sticking, or causing something to stick, to something else, or to an ENEMY whether Openly or Covertly....
It's just too bad that BROKEBACKBARRY is a FOREINGER, last KNOWN CITIZENSHIP is Indonesian, and that makes him a SPY, and FOREIGN SPIES Rarely, IF EVER, get caught for Treason....
Do not forget letting in terror cells, foreign militias, foreign militaries MS 13 and TDA gang members, trying to assassinate a president, all camouflaged in the mass immigration that these same people advocated.
technically its not just "war"... its actually this: "only in levying War against [the United States], or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort."
Treason has been a term used to describe the magnitude of the crimes against Trump and country, but from the angle of "political enemies" as opposed to actual treason. So your point is well heard and I see it lightly mentioned in places like GAW - but it is being spoken of louder and louder by the devout lefties right about now. Are the crimes committed by Obama covered under presidential immunity even though they aren't treason? I would say they aren't. It is not just treason but acts not pertaining to a presidents administration. So if any president were to walk out of the oval office and stab and murder the first aide he came to in the hall you better believe he would be prosecuted - This I think is a great analogy for what Obama did and offers myself better perspective than comparing to actual treason. Just my thoughts on it. I am not holding my breath that Obama will be prosecuted, but its nice hearing Bannon, Hillary, and Comey are expected to be indited soon. (really thought I'd be retiring this by now, but nope - still fits) NCSWIC!!!
Sending a billion dollars to Iran, who chants death to America.
Obama funded ISIS with military and economic support.
He then aired fake missile attacks on ISIS locations. The ISIS targets that were struck by Obama were abandoned buildings and deserted caravans of vehicles in the dessert.
It does get a bit complicated and I by no means understand what is going on over there. You can only come to conclusions based on the lies and half-truths we are given.
Would your anti Trump friend also be pro Palestine?
If so, Iran didn't do a very good job keeping them in check, Israel has been committing genocide in Palestine for many years.
Ron Paul said at one time, Israel created Hamas. It is my assertion, Isreal inserted Hamas into the Gaza strip to justify killing the Hebrew Jews.
Not that Iran should care if Israel is killing their own people, but I don't think the Hebrew Jews were who Iran hated, they hate the Ashkenazi Jews. That is my own deduction.
The Hebrew Jews were the people Jesus said he would one day return to save.
If one side of this war is loved by Jesus, I assume the other side is worshiping Satan. This is why Q said it would be biblical.
Supposedly Iran supports Hamas. Wouldn't that be considered support for an Israeli creation? You would think Iran knew Hamas was an Israeli creation and supporting Hamas would just instigate more violence.
I assume Bush and Obama were both being controlled by the same deep state cabal.
Bush took out Saddam Hussein in Iran. Sadam was sending scud missiles into Israel. Saddam was also stating he wanted gold for his oil which threatened the petrodollar. Saddam was a Sunni Muslim. Bush was using our military to fight Israel's war and protecting the petro-fiat-dollar.
What about Libya? The Obama admin took out Muammar Gaddafi who was a devout Muslim. We assume he was murdered for stating he wanted gold for his oil. Protecting the petrodollar or fiat dollar would benefit the Ashkenazi Jews. (Rothchild international banking system) So who benefitted the most? Israel.
Why would Obama be doing Israel's bidding while at the same time giving money to Iran to keep Israel in check? It is confusing.
We suspect Obama was a pedophile. Most likely Israel had the blackmail evidence against Obama, as well as many others. Could this be why Obama wanted to kickstart Iran's nuclear program? Give Iran the means to wipe out Israel and eliminate the pedophile blackmail evidence?
Obviously, there is corruption on the surface level we all see and deeper corruption that we are not aware of. Your anti Trump friend may be right on a certain level, let us see how it plays out.
The U.S. legal definition of treason is provided in Article III, Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution, which states that "Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort"
That last clause seems to be sufficient.
The evidentiary requirements are quite stringent.
To convict someone of treason, the law requires the testimony of at least two witnesses to the same overt act or a confession in open court.
I think K-B has been honored more in the breach rather than in observance. Mukden was the first test and it was for naught.
Further, US sovereignty and the conditional senate ratification pretty much makes it null and void.
Lots of contorted thinking here, hinging on the premise that the world will see things exactly as we might. It probably won't. And, besides, there are other crimes with stiff penalties, like sedition, that are arguably more directly descriptive of what they did. (If you start building a case on the existence of an Enemy, you are vulnerable to vast disagreement over the existence and identity of such an Enemy.)
I believe that international treaties/law/Court set it so that you cannot take over a country by force anymore.This occurred in the 1940's as OSS was becoming the CIA. And the Department t of War the Department of Defense. The CIA was subverted from its intended role of Data collection and Analysis into the Department of State's "Dirty Tricks" shop.
Thus we have Proxy wars, Subversion and Information wars as the end run around the "cannot take over by force" clause. So we no longer have "Declarations of War". Congress only complains about not being consulted as an act and political posture.
The Democrats Declared war at the outset of the Civil War, but because New York was always the center of their dirty tricks operations they never ended the war.
I believe Obamalama and his/her band of ghouls, are guilty of treason, but can this be proven considering the way the US Constitution defines it? I hope so and am looking forward to how it'll be presented to the court.
I worry about going for the highest criminal charge, and therefore the highest legal threshold to overcome. Beyond a reasonable doubt is required for a criminal conviction. How many charges of first degree murder are not convicted because the attorneys were too ambitious to get the highest conviction?
There is overwhelming evidence for at least seditious conspiracy, committed by dozens involved. Being convicted of that charge alone, would essentially destroy the entire political career of anyone involved in the Russia conspiracy, and they'd have to serve jail time.
I'm incredibly curious to hear the perspectives of others on this subject!
I do not for a second believe that Trump would work his ass off, get arrested, risk financial ruin, risk assassination, and more just to stumble near the finish line and allow this evil POS to get off the hook for crimes even worse than treason.
I'd like to see charges and convictions of treason for dozens of these Orcs hellbent on destroying the US, and even the Western World. Trump has gone through hell, risked it all, and has come out stronger than ever. My support of DJT has never waivered.
The fact that you're even asking this question causes me to wonder if you are at the right place, or if you're a little slow witted. Of course it could be both. Your name says quite a bit doesn't it?
Trump didn't "Do" the same thing but he was accused of it for obvious political reasons. The only armed insurrection in history where not one weapon was found at the site of the so-called insurrection. The only person killed was an unarmed female military veteran who was shot in the stomach. The capital officer who is allegedly beat to death was later verified by forensic medical examination that he died of natural causes. The insurrection where the capital police opened the doors, moved the barriers out of the way, and they were seen on tape escorting the insurrectionist to the inner offices of the building. These horrible violent vicious insurrectionists also picked up paper and trash, picked up overturned trash cans, and smiled for the camera. You have got to be kidding me! Did he falsify documents, collude and coordinate with dozens of others, weaponize the FBI CIA DOJ IRS EPA NEA etc? I could go on but maybe I'm feeding a room temperature IQ troll here.
Go find another political site to post on. If you really believe you've asked a legitimate question, you don't belong here.
Wrong.
The Constitution, Article 3, Section 3, Clause 1:
Obama and others conspired to give aid and comfort to our enemies, both foreign and domestic. Our enemies are anyone who would attempt to overthrow the government. There is no need for a war, declared or otherwise.
""ADHERING"" to their Enemies....
To commit Treason, one doesn't even have to ALL of those things like Make War on the States, nor GIVE AID AND COMFORT to our Enemies....
Just very simply ADHERE to them....
TO PICK A SIDE....
Americas Enemies:: Globalists, Islam, Cartels, World Bankers, Most Foreign Nations, ILLEGAL INVADING ALIENS....
Adhering definition: attaching or staying attached; sticking, or causing something to stick, to something else, or to an ENEMY whether Openly or Covertly....
It's just too bad that BROKEBACKBARRY is a FOREINGER, last KNOWN CITIZENSHIP is Indonesian, and that makes him a SPY, and FOREIGN SPIES Rarely, IF EVER, get caught for Treason....
Do not forget letting in terror cells, foreign militias, foreign militaries MS 13 and TDA gang members, trying to assassinate a president, all camouflaged in the mass immigration that these same people advocated.
That's how I read it also. Dunno how the SC does.
Trump announced at the beginning of his term that he was a WAR TIME President! Jus sayin!
technically its not just "war"... its actually this: "only in levying War against [the United States], or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort."
Treason has been a term used to describe the magnitude of the crimes against Trump and country, but from the angle of "political enemies" as opposed to actual treason. So your point is well heard and I see it lightly mentioned in places like GAW - but it is being spoken of louder and louder by the devout lefties right about now. Are the crimes committed by Obama covered under presidential immunity even though they aren't treason? I would say they aren't. It is not just treason but acts not pertaining to a presidents administration. So if any president were to walk out of the oval office and stab and murder the first aide he came to in the hall you better believe he would be prosecuted - This I think is a great analogy for what Obama did and offers myself better perspective than comparing to actual treason. Just my thoughts on it. I am not holding my breath that Obama will be prosecuted, but its nice hearing Bannon, Hillary, and Comey are expected to be indited soon. (really thought I'd be retiring this by now, but nope - still fits) NCSWIC!!!
NCSWIH
excellent comment!!
There is no immunity for a crime.
The duties of a law enforcement officer do not include engaging in criminal activity while on the job.
Same would be true for any government employee.
Remember: The president is our employee. He is not a higher rank than us -- just a higher rank than the other employees in the Executive Branch.
"Invasion from within"..... Enemies can't get in without help.... THAT is the treason...
Invasion is an act of war. Then giving aid and comfort to the invaders. Also helping the invaders get here and violence to try to keep them here.
Not even close.
Sending a billion dollars to Iran, who chants death to America.
Obama funded ISIS with military and economic support.
He then aired fake missile attacks on ISIS locations. The ISIS targets that were struck by Obama were abandoned buildings and deserted caravans of vehicles in the dessert.
Trump charges Obama with being 'founder of ISIS'
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-charges-obama-with-being-founder-of-isis?msockid=3a3153f5821467603e21462e839266fc
Anti Trump friend would say "Iran was the only one keeping Israel in check!"
It does get a bit complicated and I by no means understand what is going on over there. You can only come to conclusions based on the lies and half-truths we are given.
Would your anti Trump friend also be pro Palestine?
If so, Iran didn't do a very good job keeping them in check, Israel has been committing genocide in Palestine for many years.
Ron Paul said at one time, Israel created Hamas. It is my assertion, Isreal inserted Hamas into the Gaza strip to justify killing the Hebrew Jews.
Not that Iran should care if Israel is killing their own people, but I don't think the Hebrew Jews were who Iran hated, they hate the Ashkenazi Jews. That is my own deduction.
The Hebrew Jews were the people Jesus said he would one day return to save. If one side of this war is loved by Jesus, I assume the other side is worshiping Satan. This is why Q said it would be biblical.
Supposedly Iran supports Hamas. Wouldn't that be considered support for an Israeli creation? You would think Iran knew Hamas was an Israeli creation and supporting Hamas would just instigate more violence.
I assume Bush and Obama were both being controlled by the same deep state cabal.
Bush took out Saddam Hussein in Iran. Sadam was sending scud missiles into Israel. Saddam was also stating he wanted gold for his oil which threatened the petrodollar. Saddam was a Sunni Muslim. Bush was using our military to fight Israel's war and protecting the petro-fiat-dollar.
What about Libya? The Obama admin took out Muammar Gaddafi who was a devout Muslim. We assume he was murdered for stating he wanted gold for his oil. Protecting the petrodollar or fiat dollar would benefit the Ashkenazi Jews. (Rothchild international banking system) So who benefitted the most? Israel.
Why would Obama be doing Israel's bidding while at the same time giving money to Iran to keep Israel in check? It is confusing.
We suspect Obama was a pedophile. Most likely Israel had the blackmail evidence against Obama, as well as many others. Could this be why Obama wanted to kickstart Iran's nuclear program? Give Iran the means to wipe out Israel and eliminate the pedophile blackmail evidence?
Obviously, there is corruption on the surface level we all see and deeper corruption that we are not aware of. Your anti Trump friend may be right on a certain level, let us see how it plays out.
Yes he's pro Palestine.
Exactly. Completely confusing, but on purpose I suppose.
The U.S. legal definition of treason is provided in Article III, Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution, which states that "Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort"
That last clause seems to be sufficient.
The evidentiary requirements are quite stringent.
To convict someone of treason, the law requires the testimony of at least two witnesses to the same overt act or a confession in open court.
So key question...
When the Kellog-Brand Pact was signed, did that modify how Article III section 3 was to be interpreted?
I think K-B has been honored more in the breach rather than in observance. Mukden was the first test and it was for naught.
Further, US sovereignty and the conditional senate ratification pretty much makes it null and void.
My point is that it has been used as "cover"
"The Obama Conflict" has a certain "ring" to it...
The prosecutorial river flowing by Hussein and Michelle is both deep and wide…
The depts of their perfidy make the Marianas Trench look like a paper cut.
Lots of contorted thinking here, hinging on the premise that the world will see things exactly as we might. It probably won't. And, besides, there are other crimes with stiff penalties, like sedition, that are arguably more directly descriptive of what they did. (If you start building a case on the existence of an Enemy, you are vulnerable to vast disagreement over the existence and identity of such an Enemy.)
All of that sounds reasonable to me, In the words of Larry the Cable Guy "Get er done!"
I believe that international treaties/law/Court set it so that you cannot take over a country by force anymore.This occurred in the 1940's as OSS was becoming the CIA. And the Department t of War the Department of Defense. The CIA was subverted from its intended role of Data collection and Analysis into the Department of State's "Dirty Tricks" shop.
Thus we have Proxy wars, Subversion and Information wars as the end run around the "cannot take over by force" clause. So we no longer have "Declarations of War". Congress only complains about not being consulted as an act and political posture.
The Democrats Declared war at the outset of the Civil War, but because New York was always the center of their dirty tricks operations they never ended the war.
Why did Cankles become a NY politician?
WOW!
So eloquently put….
What a web of DEATH DOOM AND DESTRUCTION!
DQ+ 17+ Q+
MAKE IT RAIN!
This will have to go to the military. Civilian courts would fail miserably. They can't handle the truth.
Weaponization of the media against the population (legalized propaganda in media being used against the American people.)
Following this thread very closely!
I believe Obamalama and his/her band of ghouls, are guilty of treason, but can this be proven considering the way the US Constitution defines it? I hope so and am looking forward to how it'll be presented to the court.
I worry about going for the highest criminal charge, and therefore the highest legal threshold to overcome. Beyond a reasonable doubt is required for a criminal conviction. How many charges of first degree murder are not convicted because the attorneys were too ambitious to get the highest conviction?
There is overwhelming evidence for at least seditious conspiracy, committed by dozens involved. Being convicted of that charge alone, would essentially destroy the entire political career of anyone involved in the Russia conspiracy, and they'd have to serve jail time.
I'm incredibly curious to hear the perspectives of others on this subject!
I do not for a second believe that Trump would work his ass off, get arrested, risk financial ruin, risk assassination, and more just to stumble near the finish line and allow this evil POS to get off the hook for crimes even worse than treason.
I'd like to see charges and convictions of treason for dozens of these Orcs hellbent on destroying the US, and even the Western World. Trump has gone through hell, risked it all, and has come out stronger than ever. My support of DJT has never waivered.
Obamalama would be facing criminal charges of seditious conspiracy and/or treason, and would absolutely NOT be immune because he was in office.
The fact that you're even asking this question causes me to wonder if you are at the right place, or if you're a little slow witted. Of course it could be both. Your name says quite a bit doesn't it?
Trump didn't "Do" the same thing but he was accused of it for obvious political reasons. The only armed insurrection in history where not one weapon was found at the site of the so-called insurrection. The only person killed was an unarmed female military veteran who was shot in the stomach. The capital officer who is allegedly beat to death was later verified by forensic medical examination that he died of natural causes. The insurrection where the capital police opened the doors, moved the barriers out of the way, and they were seen on tape escorting the insurrectionist to the inner offices of the building. These horrible violent vicious insurrectionists also picked up paper and trash, picked up overturned trash cans, and smiled for the camera. You have got to be kidding me! Did he falsify documents, collude and coordinate with dozens of others, weaponize the FBI CIA DOJ IRS EPA NEA etc? I could go on but maybe I'm feeding a room temperature IQ troll here.
Go find another political site to post on. If you really believe you've asked a legitimate question, you don't belong here.
Troll
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