Let's take a moment to frame the idea here.
The Frame: DJT & Xi Cooperation
One, we know that China under Xi has had a war going with Soros for a long while now.
Two, there is reasonable room to speculate that DJT, Putin and Xi are all cooperating to destroy the International Globalist Cabal and their banker controllers, etc.
Three, Trump says he gets along very well with XI, and they appear to have a very good relationship.
So, why would Trump simply go with the "China did this and China did that" angle in his address on Thursday?
One Scenario: Good Twin vs Evil Twin
The Good Twin - Evil Twin idea is that in each nation, there are corrupt, Cabal elements (such as a 'deep state') that have actively been pursuing the agenda of evil that leads to tyranny, control and enslavement of the people, while there is also forces of good, working in each nation, to advance and pursue an agenda of goodness, one that leads to freedom, individual and national sovereignty, and prosperity for the people.
So, what if China itself has had a good twin / evil twin conflict going on for a long time?
It would be very different in the dynamic than the US, where the evil twin (Deep State & Cabal) have been infiltrating for a long time, vs China, where the state itself was set up by the evil twin aka the Chinese Communist Party, and where any overthrow of that regime would require a form of 'infiltration' by the people wanting to do that.
The scenario I'm looking at here, then, In Short:
USA: Established by good, but then subjected to evil forces seeking to infiltrate and destroy
CCP China: Established by evil, but then, over time, good forces seeking to reform and liberate the country from that evil
But, if this was true, and Xi is a good guy and/or in cooperation with DJT, how can we explain all the evil that goes on inside China and outside?
The Moral Dilemma of the War of Evil Twin vs Good Twin
One of the issues that is frequently raised here and which (obviously) concerns a number of patriotic anons is the moral question:
if "Patriots are in Control" then how can we justify all the damage and hurt that the nation directly suffered 2021-2024? The Covid thing, the illegals influx, the thousands of continued evil practices by Big Pharma and the Dems, etc? The Rinos?
Defining "In Control"
It's a tough question, but to my mind, this hinges on how one interprets "Patriots in Control" as offered to us by Q. To cut things short, my interpretation has consistently been that this narrative from Q refers control similar to the level of control that the upper hand has in a game of chess, for example. At Game Theory level of control.
In the Chess game, the game is not over until the losing side concedes. Until that point, the game - the moves and countermoves - continue to be played out. The winning side with the upper hand cannot simply wipe the chess board and knock over all the pieces because "I'm going to win!". Rather, from a position of strength and strategic supremacy, the winning side controls the overall direction of the game, increasingly 'forcing moves' by the opponent, and gradually limiting and destroying the opponent's capacity to make effective counter-moves.
In other words, in this scenario, 'Patriots in Control' from Q does NOT mean that the Patriot team controls EVERYTHING. It means, they control the overall direction of the war. They have the upper hand, and have accomplished a strategic position where they can force, by and large, the direction and therefore eventual outcome of the conflict.
However, despite this upper hand, the opponent can still make countermoves. And, in this particular war we have been in (or this stage of the war we have been in) for the past 10 years, the enemy is NEVER going to give up and concede, not until there are zero alternatives. And even then, very likely the majority of the enemy team will go down in hatred, destruction, trying to take as much down with them as possible. (It's the nature of evil.)
Therefore, apart from increasingly limiting the effective counter-moves the enemy can make, the winning side also has to work hard to limit collateral damage and hurt, as much as possible. But in war, there is always loss and pain.
Anyway, to me, this is the only interpretation of "Patriots in Control" that makes sense morally, intellectually, spiritually.
Either way, let's just pin that particular interpretation and then apply it to China.
If China was also in a good twin - evil twin war, how would this interpretation apply?
What if....?
We can by and large accept that Trump and Team are exposing the infiltration of the US and destroying the US version of the 'Evil Twin' while minimizing the overall damage as much as possible. But if (and it’s a big if) Xi is actually marching toward the goal of liberating China from the Evil Twin - the Cabal, including the CCP and its tendrils - then he would also have to play a similar game, where moves and counter-moves take place.
In this scenario, the Xi team would be unable to completely and immediately stop all the bad things happening in China... They would have to work, pushing forward, securing the situation to the point when the real reform could 'come out into the open' and the enemy, the CCP Deep State structure, has no real way to derail or prevent its own destruction. Not an easy thing in a nation and society founded on and run for its whole history on dictatorial Communist Principles.
#Note: "out in the open"
Lots of anons, and otherwise erudite thinkers, have pointed out that DJT coming out to the public and putting all the disclosure, declassification and information to the American public marks a significant turning point or marking point in the war we are in. In short, in the take down of an organized crime infrastructure, you do not come out and make things public until all the necessary evidence is secured, witnesses lined up, and criminals all but publicly 'caught' in the net.
So, I'm supposing that if Team Xi is in fact working on a trajectory to liberate the Chinese people, then it’s entirely plausible that they haven't reached that 'going public' stage yet, too.
Anyway, if the above is accurate, then that would explain why
a) China as a whole, not yet freed from the CCP tyranny, is still a tangible or active threat to the USA,
b) the threat needs to be contained - from outside and from within - by DJT's legitimate US govt, as "China"
c) Trump could expose "China" as doing all the things it allegedly did even while
d) Trump can be so chummy with Xi, despite him being an 'evil despotic insane dictator' <sic>
Enemy Nation?
Essentially, from a purely external or normal (normie?) perspective, Trump's coming public with the role that "China" played in the election rigging on Thursday should mean that China is engaged in war with the USA, that China is an enemy on a worse level than anyone else <ahem> like "Iran", for example.
But Trump just visited with China and Xi in May this year. The first visit to China since his original trip in 2017. So what's with that? Was it to check the plans and prepare for this stage?
Is China as a whole really the enemy nation? Or is China, like Russia and like the USA, engaged in a death battle with the International Globalist Regime, fighting its own 'Deep State' evil twin element, namely the historically controlling Cabal and CCP?
And remember, by all appearances, the CCP is the Frankenstein's Monster of the Globalist Bankers, the creature they created (Mao, etc) but which then refused to submit to them and do their bidding (making China a slave vassal nation), and instead following their own path, evil though it was?
Consider all the elements of the scenario I describe above, how then to explain "China’s” involvement in rigging the US election, seeking to install Bidden, etc? As exposed publicly by DJT on Thursday? How, you ask? Like this:
It was elements within China, aka the Evil Twin elements, the Cabal and CCP clique not yet fully subdued by Xi, that did this. Not the nation as governed by Xi as a whole, but the evil elements, the evil twin, with who Xi is engaged in a war himself.
And, what if, all during the period in question (2018-2024), while the Evil Twin CCP and Chinese Cabal elements were actively seeking to destroy Trump, undermine the 2020 election and more, Trump and Xi have actually been in a very secretive cooperative operation, targeting the same enemy?
Scenario DJT & XI?
I'll take care of my bad guys, you take care of your bad guys, but let’s cooperate so that they can destroy themselves by doing what they do
I mean, what if DJT and XI let those evil elements in China do that they planned to do, with the evil twin elements in the US, as a sting operation? It would allow Trump to declare himself a wartime President, with a foreign nation (China) attacking the USA, and gain all the leverage that allows, while the coordinating Trump - Xi team could capture and destroy the Evil Twin elements in BOTH their nations.
Then, why not say so on Thursday? Why not say "Actually, Xi is a great guy, and it wasn't him, but it was elements within the Chinese nation that attempted to do all these things"? Why say "China did this"?
Several reasons:
Firstly, doing so would expose any operation Xi was conducting behind the scenes against the Evil Twin Cabal within China, when perhaps the operation there is not quite at that stage.
Secondly, it would minimize the leverage that Trump gains by exposing that a foreign country, in cooperation with elements within the US (aka Deep State), has been directly interfering and manipulating the electoral system.
Three, it's not necessary, yet.
If the above theory is accurate, I can envision a potential unfolding of events, where Trump, meeting with Xi, raising the Chinese interference thing, providing Xi with mountains of leverage finally needed to destroy the Evil Twin elements within China itself. Hey, communist nation. You always need a reason to have a purge, right? It used to be counter-revolutionary thought. But as things normalized (<sic> in the country, it becomes 'corruption' etc.
This way, both Trump and Xi get what they want: leverage to destroy their own deep state, and in Trump's case, leverage to advance securing the election system while pursuing accountability to everyone who has been doing everything they can to destroy Trump and in doing so, commit treason against the Country and the Constitution.
So, Why it Was "Chyna", and Not "Elements In China" on Thursday Night...?
I don't have any real solid evidence, but I suspect that it was evil elements within China that Trump was indirectly exposing on Thursday, just not in those terms.
At this stage of the game, it’s still "USA vs China", not "Good Twins (in both countries) vs Evil Twins (in both countries)". I mean, as far as the normie narrative goes. But anons are used to thinking outside the regular channels of thought, and I think these questions are worth asking.
Addendum
One, the above does not mean, in any way, that the USA govt under Trump should be easy going or dismissive of the threat that CCP China poses. It doesn't mean a soft stance or ignoring the real danger is warranted.
Two, I know that some frogs are vehemently convinced that Xi is an insane, evil dictator with megalomaniacal ambitions, just as bad as Mao ever was. I can respect that, but I'm not convinced.
At the same time, I'm not convinced that Xi isn't a tyrannical megalomaniac, either. I do lean towards the "<Trump + Putin + Xi> are actually good guys scenario", but I simply do not know. I speculate. I consider various points, and then sure, go with my bias. But I can readily admit I do not KNOW.
Three, likewise, this post is speculation. It’s a thought exercise at trying to piece some of the dots together to see if this particular picture makes sense.
I'd be very interested to see what other frogs think. Hey, I'm not wedded to my theories. Let's just say, we have a good relationship and we've been courting a while....
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PS. Hat Tip to Chris Paul (at Badlands Media) for the "good twin - evil twin" phrasing. A very useful cipher, imo.
Chyna is a city in Ukraine with biolabs.
Ukraine also was involved in election interference in 2020.
Did we ever get anymore info on those biolabs? I thought the whole reason we were supporting Russia was because of the biolabs they were going to uncover in Mariupol. We had so many posts here with evidence, but I haven't heard anything since Russia took that area over. Also, what did Ukraine have to do with the 2020 election? I haven't heard anything about that. I thought that was the Italian sattelites that were being used.
Ukraine was taking money from Congress and funneling it back to the Democrats and Rinos to sway the election. There were even Ukrainians present on Jan 6. Ukraine was doing all they could to get rid of Trump.
chYna -- the Y could also represent the Y-head -- the bad half of China.
u/#q185
4 Real...
Once you start digging, you turn up CoL connections.
Let's not forget how prominent Hong Kong banking was/is, the absolutely massive drug trade pushed through Taiwan via Burma and that faction, how China was "set up" to erode American manufacturing starting in the 1970s.
HUGE investments & tech transfer unfairly GIVEN to them in order to kill our prosperity. Plus, they used their influence in The Universal Postal Union (UPU), a part of the UN to purposely rob the USA and make us pay for all those Chinese"e-packet" shipments that are cheaper for consumers than shipping the same product just one town over in the USA - just a small mention - among a long list of blatant financial attacks.
Oh, let's not forget Bubba essentially GIVING China our nuclear secrets when he was president... and Obongo Hussein similar.
The standing down of ANY litigation involving stolen IP and blatant disregard for US companies' secrets. This is all part of a huge conspiracy by I believe the city of London bankers, and their oligarch shareholders, and the international "cabal" of decision makers that want the USA to be a 3rd world nation.
Death by a thousand cuts. Financial/commercial/manufacturing, tech theft, social and political infiltration & manipulation, election interference, importing 3rd worlders and Chinese "students", secret Chinese police stations here, and on and on and on.
One thing to understand about the Chinese. Historically, they are neither innovators nor leaders. They're copiers, emulators and followers. They're damned proud of something they've copied and reproduced. It's clear they've been groomed and pushed by an outside force - one with a deep, dark history and track record of similar activity for hundreds of years.
I do not think this is true. Perhaps you are thinking of the Japanese? Which is by and large very true.
a) Printing - China was the first civilization to develop a form of printing on paper, etc. Woodblock printing in use by the 7th century. Movable type during the Song dynasty (11th century). Compare with Gutenberg's movable type printing in the 15th century.
b) Paper Money - Tang dynasty - 8th century; Song Dynasty - 11th century. Putting aside the issue of govt issued paper money abuse for fiat, China was the first civilization to do paper money.
c) Fireworks and explosives - A form of 'firecrackers' (made from Bamboo) used around 200 BC, Gunpowder and actual fireworks in the Tang and Song Dynasties, 7th century onwards. Sophisticated fireworks especially in the Song dynasty (11th century +). Canons etc, and forms of guns in the 12th century.
Fireworks and Gunpowder technology only came to Europe via trade in the 13/14th centuries. The Europeans were the ones to take the tech and then develop it to a higher more sophisticated grade.
d) Paper - unlike papyrus developed by the Egyptians, the Chinese had pulp-based paper manufacture during the Han Dynasty (BC), and then in the centuries after Christ, widespread and standardized. This technology spread to Islamic world first (800's), and arrived in Europe in the 11th and 12th centuries.
e) Other: First magnetic compasses, silk production, Porcelain (kek, 'china'), cast iron, suspension bridges, umbrellas, and lots, lots more.
If anything, the Europeans have been the one's to take these various forms of invented technology and engineering, and raised that to a higher levels as the Renaissance took over.
The Japanese also took these technologies from China and developed them, and in the last 100+ years, took technological developments from the Western world and highly refined or perfected those. But in terms of innovative history, China and Japan are worlds apart. China being the most prolific in ancient times up until the full blossoming of the Christian era in Europe.
First the British Banking Cartel and Cabal, then Communism, all these have been a severe blight on the Chinese people and civilization, the former perhaps because they were unable to adapt or compete with the pure manipulative terrorism the European Cabal utilized.
<ahem> As far as I know....
Did anyone else find it interesting that in Steven Spielberg's new movie Disclosure, it depicts a deer-like creature morphing to reveal itself to be an alien/demon?
Good catch makes sense!
I have heard that playing 4D Chinese Checkers is quite tricky.
Wait to till you try 5D Chinese Chess.
U funny too!
The game of Go also comes to mind. Appearing much simpler, it's as demanding as chess, but totally different.
The rule of thumb I believe is 1 dimension in Go = 4 dimensions in chess
umm.... well, while Chess represents (or uses the motif) of the Court to be a game of intrigue and war, Go is a representation of the cosmos and is based on Ancient philosophy (Chinese), cosmology and aesthetics. Taoism (yin-yang principle), Confucianism and moral development (ethics), etc. the grid 19 x 19 = 361 intersections, symbolizes the number of days in the lunar year. Interaction of order and chaos, simplicity and complexity, capture and control of opponent (as opposed to killing opponent) on the cosmic stage.
Where did you get the 1:4 idea from? I'm curious.
Laffin here u funny
This is excellent. Thank you.
The rational take that I believe is on point and will bear fruit in the near future. Civil war is everywhere as comments to any post or comment here will confirm.
This is one of the best posts I have read here on GW, and right at the time when many of us are madly trying to figure out exactly what is going on.
I think how the Trump - Xi, USA - China dynamic progresses over the next two months will be an important indicator and possibly give us confirmation of ... "exactly what is going on".
Thanks for the feedback, btw
Excellent post as always, good sir!
TY
This is an excellent analysis by FractalizingIron!
What FractalizingIron is highlighting (or exposing) is the structural flaw in most normies thinking!
Most people are stuck with "vertical thinking" such as male vs female, black vs white, Country A vs Country B, etc. BUT, there are HORIZONTAL STRUCTURES within these vertical country structures. The U.S. has a Deep State, Russia has a Deep State, China has a Deep State. The Deep State is a GLOBAL horizontal layer in every country in the world and they all work with each other. Of course The Global Deep State has the China Deep State working with the Russia Deep State and the U.S. Deep State!
This article smashes the "single aspect of vertical thinking" and introduces the "horizontal structures" within the vertical structures. The U.S. has an (1) elected officials layer, (2) a Deep State Layer, (3) a "citizens layer" (a.k.a. you and I), (4) technology professional layer, (4) a female layer and male layer, etc. etc. So you can be a U.S. citizen working with Russian citizens (and/or China) at the "Citizen Layer" and also be a member in the vertical country structure of Russia, U.S. and/or China.
The fight today is not Country A vs Country B. The awakening recognizes the struggle is Global Deep State [U.S., Russia, China (with the other 200+ Deep State Country layer] vs Citizens [U.S., Russia, China (with the other 200+ Country Citizen layer]. This is a CITIZEN HORIZONTAL LAYER FREEDOM STRUGGLE as we FREE OURSELVES from the DEEP STATE LAYER!
I agree with a lot of what you are theorizing here. It's like saying, "Ukraine is evil." What are we really talking about? Who are we really talking about? The leadership? Elements of the leadership? The people? The physical country itself? I think another prudent example would be Iran right now. We want the regime/leadership of the suicidal clerics gone, but we hope for the liberation of its people and a bright future for the reformed country.
A good summation regarding Patriots Are in Control.
Not sure about China's XI being a "Good Guy", maybe the Evil Hoard doesn't like Skeletor...
By our standards and understanding of the term "good guy," Xi is NOT a good guy. But by China's current standards and understanding of the term, he is. He's working to help save his people. The same as Putin. The same as Trump. THAT'S where the alignment is between all 3, along with their hatred of the Cabal.
To their respective peoples, they are both denigrated and hated, yet loved and appreciated at the same time. All 3 are flat out hated and despised by the Cabal and are in life/death matches with [them]. The kind where, one wrong move, and they end up front cover copy on the daily news wire, "[insert name] assassinated!" How many times has it been tried with all 3 men?
Nice comment
An interesting perspective worth considering.
I agree. The deep state used China to create and release the virus and will blame them for ALL of it. The leverage democrats have over China’s economy is huge, and probably what they used to get their “cooperation”
I've been unsuccessfully trying to discuss this difficult question since 2021, thanks for bringing it up.
In a chess game, you have to respect the rules.
But in reality, you don't have to keep playing.
Since the end game is "cabal neutralization", what threat or blackmail is still preventing the military from arresting key figures of the deep state before they do any more damage at this point? Loose nukes? Fake news threatening civil unrest?
If the plandemic or 911 can help normies understand by being declassed or exposed, then expose it!
People will be massively redpilled.
Banking is the hardest tool to disarm from the deep state, because look at how many people starved to death worldwide due to plandemic lockdowns?
A sudden shock to banking would be terrible for western and eastern developed nations but for the rest of the world it is literally life or death.
None of us have the information to know the moves left for either side. It is interesting to speculate though.
Most certainly this is a threat. If patriots don't up their discernment game many will be swept away when the storm hits.
well, consider the microcosmic sector of Criminal justice. When taking down a crime syndicate, for example, you cannot move too early until all the 'ducks are lined up'. Doing otherwise will allow significant parts of the organization to avoid capture and then the syndicate simply continues in a slightly different form or with different actors.
In prosecuting, you cannot prosecute until everything is ready, because as soon as you charge one actor and take them to trial, they have the right to 'discovery' of all the evidence against them, so if you are using evidence obtained from this or that source in the field, or which can potentially be evidence against other actors, suddenly those other actors have access to everything you have on them as well as sources (ie. agents) that have infiltrated their organization.
Then, you have to have a judicial system that is clean, correct, and lawful, not subject to corruption of infiltration.
The point here is, its not simply a matter of 'going in and arresting the key figures'.
What we're dealing with here is a systemic international cabal structure developed over hundreds of years. Like dismantling a 1000 megaton bomb that has 10,000 complicated components, any of which, if not dismantled int he correct order, to trigger the bomb. Anyway, that's how I've understood it since around 2019.
A VERY Good Thought provoking article!!!!!!!!...
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It is extremely clear to anyone who is actually Chinese.
There is 0% percent chance that Xi is a "good guy" in any sense at all.
If he opposes Soros (questionable) then it's only because he wants to be the only one who destroys the US.
People who are not Chinese should not speculate about such things foolishly.
Source: Am Chinese
Note: Chinese people can have mistaken impressions and ideas just as much as any other person, whether American, Japanese, German, or Zambian. Do you disagree?
What.... do you think it is "clear to anyone who is American" that Donald Trump is a great guy? Or, "It is clear to anyone who is British that Kier Starmer is a globalist tool"?
The Soros - Xi conflict is pretty clear by statements each have made. Eg. Soros: "Xi Jin Ping is the greatest threat to democracy in the world today" Xi (Via the official national outlet): "George Soros is the son of Satan, the devil incarnate."
Look it up.
Sure, it might be kayfabe, but I doubt that.
I think claiming perfect perception on the basis of your nationality or ethnicity is a rather misguided path.
I.e. "I am Chinese. Therefore I know perfectly exactly who Xi is and what he is doing."
Nope. Doesn't work like that.
"People who are not Chinese should not think or speculate about things that are Chinese".
Nope, that doesn't work either.
Hey, I appreciate you have your opinion and view, but its YOUR opinion and view, and your skin color, ethnic background or ancestry does not make you somehow infallible or even necessarily more aware.
It don't work like that.
That said, I appreciate your making a comment. Can I suggest you actually make your case, and state your reasoning, present the data points, etc, that you see rather than just claiming some sort of ethnic superiority? This is GAW, not reddit.
Let me explain to you what Xi Jinping actually wants and has consistently done throughout his tenure as President.
His intention is to return China to return to the time of Mao's Cultural Revolution, which was the most violent and destructive time in history. Why?
Mao started the Cultural Revolution as a way to purge his own party of perceived rivals such as Liu Shaoqi and Peng Dehuai—men who had loyally followed him for half a century.
In the same way, Xi faces many perceived rivals within his own party. Who are they? They would be the Shanghai Clique (which focuses on peaceful diplomatic relations and economic liberalization) and the Youth League Faction (a populist faction that focuses on reducing inequality). That's why he's spent the last decade purging, imprisoning, and executing them.
Why does Xi hate them? Because he does not want good relations with other countries. He does not want economic liberalization. He wants international communism under the helm of the CCP to take over and dominate the world for the next century. He has said many times before that "the English have had their century, the Americans have had their century, now we will have our century."
That is no different than what is happening in N. Korea. The key is that both countries rely on international banking to grow. and that is where the shadow elements embed themselves within these governments. These modern purges like what happened in Saudi Arabia is trying to wrestle away these shadow elements trying to undermine sovereignty of these nations.
Lets look at this critically because China at 4% growth currently is considered a significant slow down while in most other Major Developed Countries 4% growth is pretty good.
It is an open known secret that N. Korea and Cuba are run by blackhats aka intelligent agencies for their own purposes.
That is why China has a relationship with N. Korea that is not too friendly but also does not treat the N. Koreans like a foe. N. Korea relies on China investments along with Russian too as well as international banking.
Also China under Xi wants to promote a sphere of influence in Asia and Africa to expand China's influence. But Xi can not expand without accepting international banking money. But if Xi does accept that international banking money he exposes his country to be divided up and conquered.
The black hats went around the world cultivating, training, and enabling enemies of America but it does not mean that they control them. That is like saying that the "Democrats control the Squad" or "Democrats control the Muslim Brotherhood." The fact is that they don't. These are all examples of the golem turning against its creator.
The fact is that both the CCP and North Korea were created by the Comintern but it was enabled by Communist subverters within the US government (the China Hands). They got loose and turned against both the Soviets and the US. They (and Xi in particular) want to take over the world for themselves. They are not beholden to any external interests such as US intelligence agencies.
Finally! Someone standing up to the silliness seen too often on GAW of treating China as little more than a branch office of the City of London. It's not. It has its own agency as a nation state that operates against the backdrop of a five thousand year culture. The fact that you are Chinese gives your observations extra credence to me.
To offer my opinion I characterize China as angling to play the double-cross. The country is thankful to the Western Cabal for transforming them into a modern industrial powerhouse, and appreciate being selected to replace USA as the sole superpower set to manage the 21st century technocracy. But their ambitions are greater. They want to rule the world. Simplifying by not factoring Russia: this means either A) teaming with the UN to knock out the USA - then knocking out the UN/WEF/European Cabal. Or B) teaming with the United States to first knock out the UN/WEF/European Cabal, then knocking out the USA.
No one said China does not have agency because they do choose to engage with globailist techno authoritarians for personal gain. But the Chinese understand that there is a cost and a trade off to this as it is risky for them too.
I do agree that China is trying to play the globalists while gain the upper hand against the West.
The mass tech spying on citizens we see rolled out in five eye nations was first tested in China as an example.
The double cross is more than 50 years in motion. It all started in 1971 when the UN expelled Chiang Kai-Shek's Nationalist government—the legitimate government of China which was exiled to Taiwan—and the Communists were given his place.
This happened because Nixon wanted to exploit the split between the CCP and the Soviet Union in order to weaken the Soviets, and also because the Americans saw a huge and cheaply exploitable labor force in China.
They were too short sighted to see that the CCP was far more dangerous than the Soviets ever were. They are no less Communist but just willing to play a long game to amass wealth, cultural influence, and technological dominance in order to achieve their goal of international communism.
Incidentally this is also why they hate Taiwan, because it contains the last remaining vestige of the true and legitimate government of China—the Republic of China. So long as the Republic of China exists, it is an eternal reminder to the CCP that they are only usurpers of the throne
This is from memory as I no longer have the exact reference, but in the 1970s none other than Henry Kissinger purportedly said "in a few decades they will be a force to be reckoned with." The main architect accelerating China's rise recognized the danger of his own creation.
Good insight regarding Taiwan. I had not put that together. Now that you say it I can understand how the animosity runs deep.
Black hats are not interested in controlling they are interested in shaking the tree and from that they can swoop in an capture what they want from the chaos.
Democrats can not control the squad because the squad is a construct from foreign interest and lobby groups (eg Qatar).
The Muslim Brotherhood is just a proxy for City of London as it always has been. City of London pours a lot of money into the ME.
Same reason why the crown jewel that is Hong Kong is still in City of London control and why the Chinese government understands this arrangement. Also why they are not moving on Taiwan because they are playing the long game as they know sooner or later Taiwan will join the mainland with their own free will.
WHAT IF CHINA, Russia, and others are coordinating w/ POTUS to eliminate the NWO?
u/#q140
I do want to reiterate what I wrote in the post: I'm not convinced that Xi is a ruthless insane dictator, and I'm also not convinced that he isn't.
Meanwhile, there are frogs who are adamantly convinced of either of these possibilities, which I can respect, but I think its also worth emphasizing one of the subtitles that someone above commented on: If (as per the Q drop) China and Russia are cooperating / coordinating with POTUS to eliminate the satanic NWO, this does not necessarily preclude the idea that Xi is playing the long game, and is necessarily a 'good guy'.
On the other hand, the circumstances around Trumps first visit to China, the dinner in the hidden palace precedents, and the history between DJT and Xi strongly suggest to me that somehow, Xi is up to good, in his own way, against a beast of horrible proportions.
Note, the so-called purges another frog cited as evidence of Xi's evilness can also be viewed through a completely different lens as evidence of Xi dismantling an evil and obstructing entrenched CCP opposition.
The suggestion that the Shanghai clique are a nice bunch of fellows I find contrasting sharply with the information I've encountered re: China, inasmuch as the Shanghai faction was headed by Jiang Zemin and which includes Hu JinTao, under who the persecution of the Falun Gong and the work of organ harvesting, etc started.
That said, the persecution of the Uyghurs and other Muslim minorities was severely ramped up under Xi, but looking at the devastation in Europe by radical Islamic infiltration, could anyone blame him? Apprently Xi likened Islamic extremism to a "virus-like contagion" and a "dangerously addictive drug"....
Hmmm....
The notion of good twin evil twin is a short cut that doesn't address the peoples of the nations thinking for themselves.
Rather, this whole good twin evil twin is a concept of trying to control twins rather than recognizing each as a thinking individual created by God Almighty.
Are twins to be destroyed? Is one twin supposed to be pinched at birth to kill it?
I think your interpretation is too literal, and is quite different from the concept I have as I employed this expression.
In other words, your comments here are about your specific conception of "the notion of good twin evil twin" rather than what I was talking about. Because my 'notion' or the concept I am expressing here absolutely addresses peoples of nations thinking for themselves (a critical aspect of the war we're in), and has NOTHING to do with 'a concept of trying to control twins' or not recognizing people as thinking individuals created by God.
I don't think you're doing it deliberately or concisely, but your comments on said 'notion' bears almost zero resemblance to what I'm attempting to convey.
You might try to put aside the idea of 'twins' and simply recognize what I'm saying as a metaphor for the idea that there are both good forces and evil forces at work in all nations, attempting to influence the peoples of the nation and individuals that make up those peoples.
I don't know whose 'notion' you are talking about, but it sure isn't mine. Just to be clear.
If you want to think about it deeper there are factions even within the deep state. However the deep state still has an overall goal that runs in unison with what they want to do.
Yes, this is certainly true.
In conceive of the reality as something like this:
in the evil realm, you have factions that hate and want to conquer, to rise and become supreme, because that is their nature: selfish gain. Loyalty is to self above all, and cooperation only comes because of perceived self-benefit.
In the realm of good, there is a cooperative principle, because self-gain is not the highest value, but the benefit of 'the whole': the whole family, the whole society, the whole nation, or the whole world. Unselfishness is understood as an important principle and way of living; many times, the individual or group sacrifice themselves so that others can benefit.
Hence, in the evil realm, conflict and selfish gain are the ultimate principle, but in the realm of good, unselfishness and self-sacrifice and therefore a unified purpose are the pinnacle of moral virtue.
A long held idea that these very same idealists on both sides of the good vs evil scenario is the "Club" . Monetarily speaking the battle for control of the World's assets. One side ruthless and the other side with a conscious. The masses represent the pawns on chess board. This notion goes as far back as the Sumerian culture in context. Depending on your own ism and frame of reference, culture, or level of comprehension.... history has described it in many ways.
My conclusion is that humanity has been captured by dimensional predators and we are struggling to emancipate ourselves from their infiltration, deception and predation. They have been manipulating and feeding on us since before the Tower of Babel with usury and human assets (deep state). May the patriots have a handle on this and may God and the angels help us. Our own transcendence is the final victory. Q's last word was "ASCENSION".
Venturing to the even more bizarre.
Great expose.
I would add:
How do you undermine entrenched interests and positions?
dig a tunnel
This may mean: an access ramp to reach a certain point, preferably that which conceals and protects what is inside its enclosure.
You asked for thoughts. Here are two:
(You could also go with "host killing parasites vs parasites killing host" but that framing is a bit sterile and disrespects the roles of good and evil in the description.)
To the mind of the public, China is the foot in the door that will forcibly keep their minds open, and will lead to ever greater revelations. If he opened by explaining nuances of the deep state, server packets from Italian satellites to Pakistani MI-6 operatives, minds would snap shut and Trump would be mocked worse than the times he promoted hydroxychloroquine and "injecting bleach."
Not only is the public not ready, but such an education is not needed yet. Trump's immediate objective is to recruit the public to accept/support/demand a purge of traitors. The education about who the enemy is and how they operate can come later.
Two thoughts:
A very good and clear summation of a point I sort of worked on. Assuming we're on the right track, and the war Q has exposed is real, then this is a principle all frogs should understand: "Killing the deep state is a different task in each different environment, requiring different tactics"
Exactly as I was thinking, too.
Thanks for the feedback.
Because like USA there are two Chinas, two Britons - a seedy underbelly and a smoke screen. We are the smoke screen. They used us to add validity to their plans and processes. We climb on board their nonsense, then blindly help them move it all in their intended direction. Question everything! Do plastic bags really not break down? Do paper straws really save the planet? Think of the stories they have told us over the years? Coming ice age of the 1970’s? I bet it was all crap. God says the earth will be present for us until the day of judgement.
I like this thought... Fract! Considering CHYNA..and A lot of this is just coming off the top of my head, so forgive any slight mistakes... BUT China is run by 3 Main Groups the CCP, PRC, and the PLA. I believe the CCP killed Xi's Dad?! On DJT's Capitulation Tour, Xi invited DJT to the Forbidden City for Dinner (Never been done before) China is part of BRICS. China has de-escalated with Singapore and Hormuz. Soros has said before that BOTH Xi and Putin must go. I also think that WE here view us as being the Good guys...We have never lived in a Country,,,that has been attacked by US "influenced by the Cabal" (For Cabal reasons) using USA forces to do their bidding (Before DJT) that is. Might give some explanation why we are not liked in some regions around the world? Also this partnership between DJT and Xi..would also be very helpful in drawing out each countries EVIL Twins during 2020 run up and take over. Xi has already Removed Several Party leaders to this point.
Similar to my thinking.
Apparently they essentially ostracized him and drove him to death. But not certain about the details.
Another dot on the map that needs to be accounted for. (Join the dots-style)
Basically, the rest is how I think (or how I am inclined to hope), but then, I think if I can figure out the reality even 70% of the way, I'm doing well. So I suspect that I've missed the mark to some extent, but hopefully, time will tell.
Chinese civilization has been a massive and important part of the world's ethical, religious, and technological development over the past several (4?) thousand years, often ignored and undervalued by Western thinkers and Western people. And just when Christianity began to break into China, the Western Cabal began to exploit and undermine the country.
By the communist takeover, up to 4 million Christians (Protestants and Catholics).
Daddy's little AI says: Today, some estimates say that between 60 and 130 million people are Christians in CCP China (5-9%) of the population. Official govt figures say 38-44 million CHristians (registered chuurches only).
Outside of China, around 50-60 million.
Hmmm...
"in control"--perhaps the idea of major surgery is a better analogy? the doctors are "in control" of the situation, but a certain amount of healthy tissue will still be damaged in order for the patient to live.
in collaboration with china, calling them out like this gives xi a valid reason to clean out a bunch of the people responsible. the price of failure there is usually death.
One, I like it. I mean, we're not restricted to any one analogy, and sometimes X analogy can illustrate certain things that Y analogy cannot. But this is a good one.
Yes, I think that should be considered and factored in. IF Xi wants to cooperate with DJT (and Putin), then he can certainly use this for (within the Chinese structure): you guys did bad stuff! Bye bye
"reasonable room to speculate"
This can be said about many things. Which is why I urge caution when you perform 'thought' exercises' that you remember they are only that. We do not have all the information. We will never have all the information. We were not notified ahead of time so we could speculate, we were warned ahead of time to disseminate the information already given to us. We are not prophets, we are messengers. We should not be trying to deliver messages we cannot verify. It only discredits us and pushes us into resembling the stereotype of 'crazy Q person'.
A big clue that this is the case is because the USA and other Western nations did not put in place severe punishments against China due to COVID origins.
The black hats knew it was an operational trojan horse for a plandemic and greater deep state control. Any punishments toward China would have led back to to elements within Western governments supporting the plandemic. They wanted to avoid public disclosure aka being thrust into the light at all costs.
White hats had to disarm the plandemic machinations first, gather evidence via sting operation and then rebuild a framework for government while removing deep state undercurrent structure.
Openly punishing or sanctioning China even from a white hat perspective would have undermined their ability to go after deep state elements as the facing public of China would have been the one receiving the blunt of the fire from global scrutiny and financial restrictions. Meanwhile the shadow elements within China would have remained and unscathed.
TLDR version: its all one big honeypot
boundaries. eternity. and few other things swirl..
boundaries. is it something to consider that the mentality of the china dude is that he wants to be him but not take over the whole world? Example is mask wearing. Many here and everywhere do not care if another wears a mask.. only when another forces you to wear a mask is when the boundary is crossed. I never liked the kid scenario... only when you go after my kids is when you cross the line has always been way wrong in my opinion. We should never use kids as a shield or a sword. In fact we should want to protect our kids and expose our kids to things when we as parents deem it fit on a Christian foundation.
eternity. Stephen in Acts 7:60 is an example of forgiving. Yet those who did this to him (like Saul who became Paul) thought they were on God's side... We are in a much different scenario. The magic they have woven is spectacular. To be good now is mocking to evil who claims they are of Christ now and they do this knowingling... so can you imagine one like Nancy P for eternity stuck in a forever bubble babbling about ice cream? Sure it is humor but the reality is these people are going to face eternity just as all of us will and it is scary to see it for them and at this time in reality they rely on that as their weapon.
such a magic and disgusting beautiful sick evil thing they have woven into the Western minds that may never be untangled completely.
The start of the un-tanglement is to allow the parts that have cancer to die off and try to keep the parts that are cancer free from getting cancer... If it offends thee it is better to cut it off.....