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JonathanE 2 points ago +2 / -0

Hang on, is this news?

The PCR test replicates the dna that is present in a sample to the level at which it can be detected by instruments, technically 'cloning'.

But is that the same as cloning a human being? Bit of a stretch.

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JonathanE 4 points ago +4 / -0

This is fucking true.

This place is beyond the point of no return as far as I can tell.

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JonathanE 2 points ago +2 / -0

I'm pretty certain there was nothing in my oaths that said anything of the sort. In fact FM's are censured if they seek pecuniary (or legal) advantage by being a FM.

I will, however, double check that.

edit: from what I recall all the secrecy stuff was about not sharing all the elements that help to identify a fellow FM (words, signs, secret handshakes etc.)

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JonathanE 4 points ago +4 / -0

Here's a weird thing.

For some reason I have always known that gravity could be manipulated by electro-magnetic fields - although when I was 9 years old (in 1980) I couldn't have put it exactly in those terms.

What I did do, however, was create a picture of the future (as an assignment) and I drew an aerodynamic car running on the road that was hovering about 1 foot off the ground, following & powered by a metal strip running along the road buried under the surface.

So,

  1. Electric car
  2. Guided driving
  3. Electromagnetic repulsion (i.e. not done with magnets like the bullet train)
  4. Boring shaped cars that all looked the same

Tell me that wasn't bang on (or will be) :D

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JonathanE 1 point ago +1 / -0

Thankyou, bit of a mouthful though.

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JonathanE 1 point ago +1 / -0

Are you able to explain to me what is 'higher level' vs 'lower level' in this context?

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JonathanE 2 points ago +2 / -0

Pretty much everything FM is available online if you know where to look. It really isn't that secret.

However, even as a MM I know nothing of substance about the side degrees, they aren't core FM and are presented as such.

I guess if there's any shady shit going on, it will be in the side degrees, but I haven't got or seen any evidence either way.

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JonathanE 1 point ago +1 / -0

Which, unfortunately, tells me nothing of substance.

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JonathanE 2 points ago +3 / -1

I know, right?

One of the reasons I joined FM was to see what it was all about.

99.9% of the FM's I know are just there for the social aspect and to do their bit for charity. I've hardly met any that either understand or put the effort into understanding some of the allegories/rituals.

There is always the chance that there are side degrees that involve going further down some kind of nefarious path, but if that's the case I don't know anything about it, so how the hell do other people?

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JonathanE 0 points ago +1 / -1

Do you know what he has to say about the character of Freemasonry? It isn't exactly clear from the summary.

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JonathanE 2 points ago +2 / -0

I appreciate the sentiment, but I am not so enamored of FM that it supersedes my faith in God and Jesus, so rest assured.

I do not take anything told to me (by other people) on faith, I question everything.

I prefer to establish the truth for myself.

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JonathanE -2 points ago +3 / -5

I've never heard of him until you just mentioned him.

As to whether there is hidden imagery within FM that indicates there is a Luciferian control at the higher levels - I really don't know.

However, there is nothing so far in my experience that indicates that anyone I've met or anything I've seen within FM is Luciferian.

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JonathanE 3 points ago +3 / -0

I'll try and take a look at those links later (work blocks bitchute) but just taking what you posted..

Masonic allegory in which Jabulon was the name of an explorer

So, not the name of God then?

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JonathanE -16 points ago +3 / -19

Bullshit.

I've actually been through the Royal Arch degree and it's JHV, not whatever this bloke is spouting.

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JonathanE 5 points ago +5 / -0

I think you'll find everyone's posts on here are captured on the wayback machine. Spooked the hell out of me when I found out.

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JonathanE 4 points ago +4 / -0

DJT is welcome to liberate the UK as far as I'm concerned.

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