In the US Legal Code, it says that fraud vitiates an election. That means it renders it null and void. All of the things that have been done since will be quickly reversed. Although, it's mostly been EOs, not too many laws, just talking about laws.
Did you see Trump Speed the FIRST time? Within the First Month everything will be on its way back to where normal was prior to the election and the Traitors will be dealt with. Your Grand is probably my age so he will understand swift justice especially if he served.
They are citing a general legal principle: common sense if you will. If fraud gets proven in court, the next order of business, criminal or civil, is restitution, and the legal code is full of ways to do that.
But what we have with the 2020 election is conspiracy via Dominion Voting. None of that fraud language is big enough to handle what this really is: conspiracy, sedition, and treason.
For public welfare, I can see them calling fraud, allowing Biden to step down for the good of the country and admitting he didn't win.
Stuff is continuing to happen to prove fraud in these battleground states and the legal proclivity of fraud vitiating everything fraud touches is going to be on front of the minds of everyone involved.
I think for now they are only looking at the most recent election. Possibility the mid term elections in ‘18 but not likely anything beyond the ‘20 election.
Not a lawfag but I would imagine that if fraud has been found then the entire thing would need to be redone because if Trump is entitled to a remedy, then everyone and everything (measures, bonds, initiatives etc) that either lost or won is cast with a huge amount of uncertainty and doubt and the only remedy is for a re-election. How that is done, with such a huge scale like this amount of fraud is, nobody knows.
I would assume that everything goes back to pre Nov 3rd which means mitch the bitch and 30 pence would have a hand in calling the shots. A very few people in our government can be trusted. The courts are fucked, and all of the legislative branch is fucked pretty much. Even the military is fucked. They all suck and will rot in hell in my opinion.
Well we've never publicly uncovered treason before this level. So uncharted means we do wat it takes to restore it. Constitutionally? Does it rely matter. Get the cou try back and reform the government. Then the co situation. Can be practiced again. As it is, WE HAVE NO NATION right. Ow. Just a broken government. A military that supports the past president, and a population that's half blind to.it all.
This is not removing a sitting president if Trump won it was a coup and he will be removed via the criminal process period. They do not have to impeach they just have to arrest him.
The constitution dosent mention massive electoral fraud or stolen elections either so I reckon that you would have to go with sedition,coups treason etc so that brings you to stacking bodies founding fathers style.
Well wouldn't SCOTUS have to step in at that point? I dont think impeached if it is shown he was an illegally elected president. I think it would just be a revote conducted by the military to confirm whether that was the case or not?
I mean in terms of the Dems if they really had 81 million, well prove it and do it again, this time with I.D.'s and no time to plan ahead because they are in the dark entirely.
STOP STOP AND FKN STOP. If it is proven Trump won no revote is necessary and Biden will be removed for the criminal he is. You people talking about revote just kill me. You do not have to revote when they have the original votes already.
So glad that you have all the facts to support that this was only a domestic emergency, insurrection, or non-international armed conflict. I can rest easy knowing that you are in control. Toodles.
I mean this literally makes no sense. half the people on this page believe the constitution is for a defunct corporation and the other half holds on like the majority of our rights haven't been trampled and continued to be trampled on by a government that has not abided by it since the civil war. :)))))))))))))
Section 11 of the Law of War is entitled “Military Occupation,” not “Military Occupation on Foreign Soil.”
It’s bound by numerous laws and treaties including most famously the Geneva Convention - and this document describes the DoD conduct that should, in their opinion, pass legal muster in an international court.
I suppose if you wanted you could harken back to Lincoln's time ,but really it's any odys game and for the most part the military would have a small role not a giant troops on every corner type operation while liberating us from this fraud goverment. Unfortunately the military has sided with the coup and now serves china.
DC is its own entity. It WAS occupying the constitutional US. So the War Manual is spot on. Do you think DC is part of the US? London part of Great Britain? Vatican part of Italy?
The military knows Biden conspired with other countries to steal the election. Biden and all his clowns are going to be tried for treason. To avoid a major uprising in the public, They have to wait till Biden's popularity is extremely low. That's why they have this fake Biden doing everything he can to piss everyone off. Tell Grandpa to make some popcorn and enjoy the movie. lol
I think the remedy is not that Trump won but that certain people colluded with a foreign government (China, Italy & Iran) to overthrow the legitimate government.. So that would involve military arrests and prosecutions for treason. They say the military is the only way as they would have the power to remove & arrest the imposters. Once imposters and criminals are taken into custody the proof of the election results would show Trump won and he would be sworn back in. I could be wrong but don’t see any other way it would work quickly. Our courts are also corrupt.
I would hope that it would be in the form of arrests and prison sentences.
Edit: This is an unprecedented time in American history, so whatever happens will also be unprecedented.
Have I somehow missed it noted in this thread that Biden quite likely just isn't President to begin with?
I still believe that to be the case. I did earlier in this “Presidency”, and as weird as it’s all been, I believe that’s an even more reasonable explanation for this all right now.
Great discussion on this issue here, but if Biden isn’t truly President, we’re obviously going to be looking at a different scenario.
Constitutionally, the responsibility (and right) lies with the state legislators. This right was removed by some states' governors usurping that authority and granting it to the particular Secretary of State . I imagine the state legislatures would still have the power to carry out their duty if fraud was proven to them.
If widespread election fraud can be proven (which it can if cases are ever allowed into a courtroom) the entire election is ruled invalid (I am uncertain what governmental body makes that declaration, but I believe it's the supreme court) and a new election is held, and managed entirely by the US military. There is a provision for this in the constitution. Sorry, no time to look it up, but check it out for yourself for the details.
Not sure how it would happen. I think the military is the only way. Who else would be able to step in? Juan O Savin has said that the military wouldn't need to hold another election because they have overwhelming proof of the election fraud right down to the serial numbers of the computers, devices, etc used. Then again he's always said come April 1st the fools would no longer be in the WH. Well, he's cutting it kind of close with that one ;)
But if you insist on not telling this truth to your elderly grandfather, then well.... why do you need one of us to make up a lie? Make up your own.
This fucking isnt a little thing. Its TREASON, and its BIBLICAL, and its GLOBAL. Hundreds if not thousands are going to die.
If your elderly grandfather cant handle that... tell him a Tucker Carlson rides space unicorn in during the middle of the nights and does a switcheroo for the my-pillow guy.
There would be new elections, similar to the California recall election. August would be when candidates from both parties can submit their applications. Then the ballots get sent out some time in October.
At this point. Military protocol would remove Biden Harris and Cabinet out to Rose Garden and promptly shoot them in the head. I believe his court cases will be heard. They were never debunked just dismissed. Big Difference. Treason is still punishable by death. But Military would resume role of removal of trash. With extreme prejudice.
There is no process. This is uncharted waters and a true constitutional crisis.
The first impulse of government would be to do nothing, but that wouldn't hold for long. The national displeasure with the current government is rising.
The first state to overturn their presidential vote count will have a ripple effect. Other states will look into their own counts. Down ballot elections will also be reviewed. These reviews will reveal that the house and senate should be in republican hands, not democrat hands.
The democrats will refuse to surrender their seats, claiming the law was followed in every particular in their seating and that all states had certified their election results.
There will be a major crackdown on spreading information but alt-tech remains beyond their control.
Certain parties will sue. For the sake of appearances the courts will actually hear the cases this time. It will be impossible for them not to when every conservative media personality is spreading the word. The suits will be heard and appealed. Rulings will be made and appealed. The whole time this is happening the democrats will have accelerated their agenda as hard as possible. The whole country will be fracturing under the strain.
There will be a lot of false flags to take attention away from the stolen election and the court cases.
All the while, the clock will be ticking. SCOTUS will hear the case sometime in 2022, probably either shortly before or after the election.
The 2022 election will be rigged and democrats will get more power. The country will enter a state of open rebellion against Washington. States will cut off the flow of tax money. The military will be ordered to bring them back in line.
The SCOTUS case outcome won't really matter by that point. They'll issue some lame statement about all processes being followed and the outcome being vindicated by the 2022 election.
Then things go completely sideways. ALL trust in government is gone. Most trust in the military is gone. Most military members won't be able to look themselves in the mirror. Big tech will find ways to control information outside of any law but with the blessing of rhe government. Who knows how this ends? I don't.
As the nation accepts the evidence (in your scenario), Bidang would no longer have a "mandate" to lead. Now what the demoncrats say about this is anybody's guess, my gut feeling says they will stall, obfuscate and lie....so in the end the people would have to demand in some way..(either threat of force or otherwise) that another election take place or that Trump be inaugurated...now what are the chances of any of this actually happening? this is why everyone always reverts to.....the proverbial, "The Military is the only way." Sorry I know I was supposed to avoid saying that. lol
Firing squads. Like litterally. They commited treason
Firing squads are ideal, but...
Most likely hugely televised trials. Imagine the Nuremberg Trials of 2022.
They're sentenced to life in GITMO, which was just renovated to the tune of $800,000,000 I think? maybe add a zero?
If they haven't already killed themselves, or died in "helicopter crashes" or something.
Get your humanitarian views out of here. Firing squads for traitors.
Firing squad sounds about right to me.
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He's not a sitting president if it was a fraudulent election
Yes and it was a coup that the Democrats payed people to see their choice won. Democrats are deep state..change my mind
In the US Legal Code, it says that fraud vitiates an election. That means it renders it null and void. All of the things that have been done since will be quickly reversed. Although, it's mostly been EOs, not too many laws, just talking about laws.
Also those EOs aren't actuly being enacted.
Did you see Trump Speed the FIRST time? Within the First Month everything will be on its way back to where normal was prior to the election and the Traitors will be dealt with. Your Grand is probably my age so he will understand swift justice especially if he served.
United States vs. Throckmorton, 1878
They are citing a general legal principle: common sense if you will. If fraud gets proven in court, the next order of business, criminal or civil, is restitution, and the legal code is full of ways to do that.
But what we have with the 2020 election is conspiracy via Dominion Voting. None of that fraud language is big enough to handle what this really is: conspiracy, sedition, and treason.
For public welfare, I can see them calling fraud, allowing Biden to step down for the good of the country and admitting he didn't win.
Stuff is continuing to happen to prove fraud in these battleground states and the legal proclivity of fraud vitiating everything fraud touches is going to be on front of the minds of everyone involved.
I think for now they are only looking at the most recent election. Possibility the mid term elections in ‘18 but not likely anything beyond the ‘20 election.
Not a lawfag but I would imagine that if fraud has been found then the entire thing would need to be redone because if Trump is entitled to a remedy, then everyone and everything (measures, bonds, initiatives etc) that either lost or won is cast with a huge amount of uncertainty and doubt and the only remedy is for a re-election. How that is done, with such a huge scale like this amount of fraud is, nobody knows.
I would assume that everything goes back to pre Nov 3rd which means mitch the bitch and 30 pence would have a hand in calling the shots. A very few people in our government can be trusted. The courts are fucked, and all of the legislative branch is fucked pretty much. Even the military is fucked. They all suck and will rot in hell in my opinion.
Well we've never publicly uncovered treason before this level. So uncharted means we do wat it takes to restore it. Constitutionally? Does it rely matter. Get the cou try back and reform the government. Then the co situation. Can be practiced again. As it is, WE HAVE NO NATION right. Ow. Just a broken government. A military that supports the past president, and a population that's half blind to.it all.
Pinochet?
Myanmar
They can save there country from china and get rid of foreigners
China totally controlled Myanmar before. It can't be worse after the coup. At the most no change.
Sure.kicking out the people China and soros paid to steal there goverment automatically makes them more dependent on there greatest enemy.
This is not removing a sitting president if Trump won it was a coup and he will be removed via the criminal process period. They do not have to impeach they just have to arrest him.
He’s. Not. President.
So no immunity.
The vote was not certified or delivered to trump. You bought into bullshit. It was all fraud.
Trump has it, Biden does not.
The constitution dosent mention massive electoral fraud or stolen elections either so I reckon that you would have to go with sedition,coups treason etc so that brings you to stacking bodies founding fathers style.
Well wouldn't SCOTUS have to step in at that point? I dont think impeached if it is shown he was an illegally elected president. I think it would just be a revote conducted by the military to confirm whether that was the case or not?
I mean in terms of the Dems if they really had 81 million, well prove it and do it again, this time with I.D.'s and no time to plan ahead because they are in the dark entirely.
STOP STOP AND FKN STOP. If it is proven Trump won no revote is necessary and Biden will be removed for the criminal he is. You people talking about revote just kill me. You do not have to revote when they have the original votes already.
I mean sure, but again wouldn't the dems just say that was all made up etc? Why wouldn't we want a re-vote WITH voter ID?
They dont get to have a say in that eventuality
SCOTIS wouldn’t step in. They’ve had chances to set things right but haven’t. They’ve stepped in ? ? and they won’t get the smell off their shoes.
Please cite the clause where it discusses wars on foreign soil. This is a constant theme of yours and I sure don’t see it within this guidance.
So glad that you have all the facts to support that this was only a domestic emergency, insurrection, or non-international armed conflict. I can rest easy knowing that you are in control. Toodles.
I mean this literally makes no sense. half the people on this page believe the constitution is for a defunct corporation and the other half holds on like the majority of our rights haven't been trampled and continued to be trampled on by a government that has not abided by it since the civil war. :)))))))))))))
What constitution?
The Law of War. It’s the only way the .mil could get involved.
https://dod.defense.gov/Portals/1/Documents/law_war_manual15.pdf
Section 11 of the Law of War is entitled “Military Occupation,” not “Military Occupation on Foreign Soil.”
It’s bound by numerous laws and treaties including most famously the Geneva Convention - and this document describes the DoD conduct that should, in their opinion, pass legal muster in an international court.
There are TONS of rules for this sort of thing.
I suppose if you wanted you could harken back to Lincoln's time ,but really it's any odys game and for the most part the military would have a small role not a giant troops on every corner type operation while liberating us from this fraud goverment. Unfortunately the military has sided with the coup and now serves china.
I thought D.C. is considered foreign entity tho?
DC is its own entity. It WAS occupying the constitutional US. So the War Manual is spot on. Do you think DC is part of the US? London part of Great Britain? Vatican part of Italy?
The military knows Biden conspired with other countries to steal the election. Biden and all his clowns are going to be tried for treason. To avoid a major uprising in the public, They have to wait till Biden's popularity is extremely low. That's why they have this fake Biden doing everything he can to piss everyone off. Tell Grandpa to make some popcorn and enjoy the movie. lol
And we have a winner!! Best answer! ????
This has been discussed before on this forum. Most likely outcome is new elections run by the military.
I think the remedy is not that Trump won but that certain people colluded with a foreign government (China, Italy & Iran) to overthrow the legitimate government.. So that would involve military arrests and prosecutions for treason. They say the military is the only way as they would have the power to remove & arrest the imposters. Once imposters and criminals are taken into custody the proof of the election results would show Trump won and he would be sworn back in. I could be wrong but don’t see any other way it would work quickly. Our courts are also corrupt.
As a paralegal, I strongly disagree with you. This IS a common legal principal applied to all areas of law.
I am pretty sure that this scenario would only result in a constitutional transition of power through impeachment. So - President Nancy?? Yuck!
No, the only chance of a change in power before 2024 is if the military intervene extra-constitutionally.
I would hope that it would be in the form of arrests and prison sentences. Edit: This is an unprecedented time in American history, so whatever happens will also be unprecedented.
Have I somehow missed it noted in this thread that Biden quite likely just isn't President to begin with?
I still believe that to be the case. I did earlier in this “Presidency”, and as weird as it’s all been, I believe that’s an even more reasonable explanation for this all right now.
Great discussion on this issue here, but if Biden isn’t truly President, we’re obviously going to be looking at a different scenario.
See Executive Order 13848 of September 12, 2018
There is a writ of Quo Warranto in DC district court right now.
Case ID 1:21-cv-00551
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/11/the_founders_outsmarted_the_presidential_election_fraudsters.html
Constitutionally, the responsibility (and right) lies with the state legislators. This right was removed by some states' governors usurping that authority and granting it to the particular Secretary of State . I imagine the state legislatures would still have the power to carry out their duty if fraud was proven to them.
If widespread election fraud can be proven (which it can if cases are ever allowed into a courtroom) the entire election is ruled invalid (I am uncertain what governmental body makes that declaration, but I believe it's the supreme court) and a new election is held, and managed entirely by the US military. There is a provision for this in the constitution. Sorry, no time to look it up, but check it out for yourself for the details.
Military will remove Biden and Harris. New paper ballot election supervised by the NG. Trump landslide - every state. House majority, Senate majority.
Not sure how it would happen. I think the military is the only way. Who else would be able to step in? Juan O Savin has said that the military wouldn't need to hold another election because they have overwhelming proof of the election fraud right down to the serial numbers of the computers, devices, etc used. Then again he's always said come April 1st the fools would no longer be in the WH. Well, he's cutting it kind of close with that one ;)
First thing is MSM. They need to overthrow them or revoke their license
military is the only way...
But if you insist on not telling this truth to your elderly grandfather, then well.... why do you need one of us to make up a lie? Make up your own.
This fucking isnt a little thing. Its TREASON, and its BIBLICAL, and its GLOBAL. Hundreds if not thousands are going to die.
If your elderly grandfather cant handle that... tell him a Tucker Carlson rides space unicorn in during the middle of the nights and does a switcheroo for the my-pillow guy.
Impeachment
If Bidan is not legally president, you can’t impeach him because he’s a private citizen.
The congress screwed this up, they are obligated to fix it.
There would be new elections, similar to the California recall election. August would be when candidates from both parties can submit their applications. Then the ballots get sent out some time in October.
At this point. Military protocol would remove Biden Harris and Cabinet out to Rose Garden and promptly shoot them in the head. I believe his court cases will be heard. They were never debunked just dismissed. Big Difference. Treason is still punishable by death. But Military would resume role of removal of trash. With extreme prejudice.
Grab his ass by the hair and throw him out to the masses
There is no process. This is uncharted waters and a true constitutional crisis.
The first impulse of government would be to do nothing, but that wouldn't hold for long. The national displeasure with the current government is rising.
The first state to overturn their presidential vote count will have a ripple effect. Other states will look into their own counts. Down ballot elections will also be reviewed. These reviews will reveal that the house and senate should be in republican hands, not democrat hands.
The democrats will refuse to surrender their seats, claiming the law was followed in every particular in their seating and that all states had certified their election results.
There will be a major crackdown on spreading information but alt-tech remains beyond their control.
Certain parties will sue. For the sake of appearances the courts will actually hear the cases this time. It will be impossible for them not to when every conservative media personality is spreading the word. The suits will be heard and appealed. Rulings will be made and appealed. The whole time this is happening the democrats will have accelerated their agenda as hard as possible. The whole country will be fracturing under the strain.
There will be a lot of false flags to take attention away from the stolen election and the court cases.
All the while, the clock will be ticking. SCOTUS will hear the case sometime in 2022, probably either shortly before or after the election.
The 2022 election will be rigged and democrats will get more power. The country will enter a state of open rebellion against Washington. States will cut off the flow of tax money. The military will be ordered to bring them back in line.
The SCOTUS case outcome won't really matter by that point. They'll issue some lame statement about all processes being followed and the outcome being vindicated by the 2022 election.
Then things go completely sideways. ALL trust in government is gone. Most trust in the military is gone. Most military members won't be able to look themselves in the mirror. Big tech will find ways to control information outside of any law but with the blessing of rhe government. Who knows how this ends? I don't.
military op forr sure
As the nation accepts the evidence (in your scenario), Bidang would no longer have a "mandate" to lead. Now what the demoncrats say about this is anybody's guess, my gut feeling says they will stall, obfuscate and lie....so in the end the people would have to demand in some way..(either threat of force or otherwise) that another election take place or that Trump be inaugurated...now what are the chances of any of this actually happening? this is why everyone always reverts to.....the proverbial, "The Military is the only way." Sorry I know I was supposed to avoid saying that. lol
Ain't one unless you sent in the military or some such thing and did it that way
Execution by military commission.
https://rarehistoricalphotos.com/execution-lincoln-conspirators-1865/
Arresting him would be a good start