No No No you got it all wrong. The pipeline only transports oil. You need a photo of thousands of petroleum guzzling heavy vehicles moving lithium across the country.
Dont forget all the extra nuclear power plants and coal burning power plants we will need to.build and all the tens of thousands of trees that will need cut down to build an electrical grid that could keep all those cars charged
Dont forget about the single point of failure/control pushing every energy system on the “grid”. Or maybe DS POV single point of success?
Like having a monoculture of corn. A plague comes through and destroys the whole crop. Or having multiple complementary systems to be resistant to system collapse.
They wouldn’t want the whole system to be dependent on a single energy paradigm in the face of climate change would they?
Climate change deniers! /s
Hey cousin! I prob have a few of those ancestors. Though I have to research more actual family tree.
Did one of those genetic ancestry things came back I have about approx 50% genes from Celtic countries one of them being Ireland.
It was a gift though prob shouldn’t have done the test as now I’m in a database somewhere. Though I’m already in a database for prior service so I figured ok might as well find out.
I have found that many of Celtic persuasion tend to be on creative and musical inclined at least in my family. Not sure if that is a general trend but seem to be lots of creative people (authors musicians etc) from Ireland, Scotland, Wales.
Several years ago I had gone on a tour of Ireland and remember the learning the McCool legend at the giants causeway. Learned lots of interesting history around the island including the Viking settlements.
Drank lots of Guinness of course. :)
I also did one of those dna tests, but I pretty much knew where some of my family came from. On my mother’s side ... Irish & Italian, dads side ... English, my dad was born in England & came to US when he was about 7 yrs old & Scottish.
So test says I’m ...99.6% European (no surprise there), 84.6% Northwestern European, 71.8% British & Irish (they gave me a list of regions for both also), 5.6% Scandinavian & 14.7% Italian.
Though I for the most part knew where my family was from, it’s still interesting to learn about it. My dad told me long ago that he checked into his ancestry and said one of our ancestors was a pirate. And another ancestor I found on my own (if he’s an ancestor, has same last name & he was traveling to NJ where he lived until he died, which is where my father lived after coming from England & still lives & where I was born) was a survivor of the Titanic.
It took the English about 800-1,000 years to take over Ireland. That's because the Irish lived in local communities with local government (such as it was) with no central government.
There was no "White House" or "Congress" to take over and rule over all. They had to go village by village, and by the time they got through part of it, the previous conquests were rising up against them, and they had to do it all over again.
Hey and you wouldn’t want to put out if work the slave labor in Congo and China pulling cobalt and rare earth metals out if the ground would they?
Such racists!
/s
Well. I was raised that there is an elite class that has always brutalized the populations of the world for profit and power. If not Andrew Jackson it would have been someone else. Now the only chance any human has to see peace and true freedom is to pull those people from power. None of us can walk as one and attain that. We must walk together. The only thing that stands in the way of complete tyranny is the United States Constitution. It must never fall.
Back in the day people used to dump LiPo packs in a bucket of salt water to discharge before disposal. Wouldn't surprise me if there are a few at the bottom of the ocean or a lake.
Batteries are up there with tyres and gas bottles in the list of shit that is a pain in the arse to get rid of.
Years ago I did some freelance writing; one assignment was for a company mining rare earth metals for smart phones etc. Found out horrific facts about the devastation, pollution and damage it caused to many communities. Realised this company had poisoned the water supply of villagers in many areas (among other things) and they needed a propaganda piece to make them look like they were the good guys. I waited 'till the very last minute to ditch it. The ignorance and hypocrisy of those telling us to be green is staggering.
My sister Is currently a freelance writer, and has shown me some of the subjects certain companies ask for. She turns them away after they ask her to revise her words because it, "doesn't fit in with their agenda". For example, she wrote about how you can survive off a minimum wage income, and the people who were paying for it basically said that they didn't want logic, they wanted to get people outraged.
I would recycle, if it actually accomplished anything. There is no money in it, so everything that goes into the recycling bins at the local convenience center gets dumped in a landfill. I just throw everything into the regular trash now, except for large things that have to go in the other dumpsters.
That may be what NY or some other places do, but here in NC, it goes into a hole in the ground (landfill). Sometimes, when it pays enough, the recyclables actually get recycled. The metals get recycled, but there's not a lot of money in that right now. The paper, plastic, and glass goes into the ground right now. The electronics may get shipped overseas. I haven't recycled any, so I haven't had the chance to inquire.
I think they might be polluting water in southeast Asia. I'll have to take some old junk in and ask around. Perhaps someone who doesn't care about management will tell me the truth.
Yes it's worth considering, I feel a bit conflicted about having shares in a rare earth minerals etf, thinking I should do more research or just get out of it.
+28% or so but I don't have a large position, yeah I'm in crypto and it has definitely done better than stocks so far.
Are you saying I should get out of it for ethical reasons or because you think the sector will go down? I'm not sure if this is what you were getting at but I'm not about to go 100% into crypto.
Crypto will continue to outperform stocks imo, it’s risky sure, but no different than stocks. Stocks are performing well because it’s denominated by USD which is debasing at a fast rate.
So it’s a question of where can you get better returns.
Pretty much all my stocks are in mining/resources with a good portion in the silver space (and to a lesser degree, gold) which are both undervalued/manipulated--this is the main reason why I'm inclined to maintain my position, as people who believe in big changes coming from the Q side of things, I believe there's a large shaking coming and I think things like metals manipulation will be ended and we could see a massive breakthrough in metals.
I also want to reiterate that I'm not comfortable going all in on crypto, I have enough for the gains to make me happy.
On subject of fusion, this will cause a moon grab (not the that kind) the actual moon as countries realize a lot of He3 needed for fusion is in the moon regolith.
It will be like fighting over Mideast oil but fighting over moon He3. The more things change the more they stay the same.
The biggest windmill farm on the east coast is in my area, and not a single tree was cut down. It is located on miles of farmland, and the land in between is still being farmed. The windmills are over 300 feet tall, and you can see them from miles away. They are eyesores. They will soon start failing.
BTW, we don't really need more trees. There are more trees in the US now than back in the 1600s. Arbor Day caused a lot of trees to be planted in areas that never had trees before, destroying the original plant life of the area.
It is all about tyrannical control. The environment is the current EXCUSE to grab control of the entire energy supply chain, and manipulate it to get rich off of it. Covid was the excuse for medical and lucrative vax scam (zero liability and huge bucks for each jab; of course, those financially profiting strongly recommend it). Expect disruptions in the food supply chain. Noting that they are now touting fake meat, watch carefully what happens to the real meat supply.
There is no logical thought when it comes to leftists; emotion is all they have. If the media and whoever they listen to convinces them their beliefs will "save the planet", they'll go with it. If the media tells them covid "vaccines" will save the world, they'll get it. Etc., etc.
do you know we can pull CO2 from the atmosphere and create fuel.. we don't need oil but consumers love cheap shit. Nasa invented a car that ran 60+miles to the gallon but it was bought and shelved by the big oil companies OIL COMPANIES DONT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT YOU so why do you care when other people don't want this shit in their back yard and fight to protect their environment. Are you offended do you need a safe space then stop crying about it.... who stickied this shit
I think that one is the Alaska Pipe Line, has the heat panels on top of each structure to try and stop the permafrost from thawing too much.
Not sure if the bottom picture is of a lithium mine or not. Doesn't really matter as the point is made. They have to haul a lot of dirt to get rare earth and other required minerals out of the ground.
A little background, I worked for a state environmental regulatory agency for a few years. I even helped write some of the regulations myself. Almost everyone there were scientists and engineers. Learning the actual science and engineering behind environmental processes gives you a clear perspective on what is actually going on. There were 4 divisions in that agency Air, Water, Land, and the legal department. Basically, states take the EPA regulations and adopt them. It is up to the states to enforce this. Individual states can make their regulations more stringent than the EPA regulations. However, states cannot make their regulations more lax than the EPA regulations. The EPA regs are pretty much the foundation that you build all your state regulatory agencies on. So, when a new President comes in, he cannot just ditch the current guidelines and start dumping things into our air, land, and water. Despite what the dumbass leftists say, Trump DID NOTHING to "harm the environment." What he did do was lift some of the absurd add-on regulations imposed by the Marx-bama administration. These ridiculous and unachievable regulations/sanctions on certain companies are stacked on top of the existing EPA regulations. When these companies cannot adhere to these over-reaching requirements they have to pay a fine. Guess who gets the money from the fine. It's "legal" extortion. The EPA regulations do enough as far as protecting the environment,although there are a lot of leftists working at the EPA that want more and more strict guidelines. It's not about the environment. It's about power and control.
Let me summarize by saying that we are doing a FANTASTIC JOB of managing and protecting our environment in this country. Don't let anyone tell you differently. If they do, they're obviously not a scientist or engineer that actually took the time to learn about our environment. These people that wail and whine about the environment are environmentalists. Environmentalists are people that aren't scientists or engineers. They are people that feel strongly and want to "help" the environment. They're basically uneducated morons that try to tell you what needs to be done when they have no actual knowledge of what needs to be done. For example, that brain dead, fucktarded liar AOC.
As far as the people I worked with, there weren't really any zealots there. It may have changed since I worked there but I doubt it. All the people working there went to school to learn the various processes and science behind protecting the environment. So, when you have that knowledge you do your job of enforcing the regulations on book. I don't recall anything being unreasonably regulated. Everything from air emissions, to groundwater monitoring, to hazardous waste disposal was based on science and doing the best thing for the environment.
I think what Trump should have done was to go to the Paris Climate Accord blah and dump a copy of all our EPA regulations and tell them that when they get their countries up to our standards, then we can talk about the real problem, China and India.
Hope this was somewhat helpful. I tend to go a little overboard because it makes me so damn mad when I hear these idiots who have no idea of what they are talking about, trying to tell us about the environment and the "damage" we're doing when in reality we are doing a fantastic job of protecting our environment in the United States.
I'm pretty sure a battery is an energy storage mechanism. And currently the electricity at the charging stations is supplied mostly, if not entirely, by coal and natural gas. Thus the battery powered cars are coal/natural gas cars. You don't even need to get into mining of battery material until the electricity at the charging stations is mostly, if not completely, supplied by renewable energy sources.
I'm green, but it's hard to talk about because I can count the number of legitimate green people I've met on one hand. Everyone else either really doesn't care, or wants to make everyone else give their freedom to government (never an answer) on the basis of things that aren't true.
The gasoline burned and converted to CO2 also feeds the trees, encouraging MORE greenery growth. YEAH SCIENCE BITCH! Photosynthesis! We learned this in 3rd grade!
From my searching it appears you're incorrect. Combustion produces carbon dioxide. The carbon monoxide comes from incomplete combustion, which it seems there is always some of, but regardless, it appears most of the gas produced from combustion is carbon dioxide.
Carbon Monoxide
CO is a product of the incomplete combustion of carbon-containing compounds. Stationary combustion sources produce CO, which is oxidized to CO2 while dispersing in the air from the stationary source. Stationary sources of CO are significant only quite near the source.
Most of the CO in the ambient air comes from vehicle exhaust. Internal combustion engines do not burn fuel completely to CO2 and water; some unburned fuel will always be exhausted, with CO as a component. CO in vehicle exhaust can be reduced by using partially oxidized fuels like alcohol and by a variety of afterburner devices. It tends to accumulate in areas of concentrated vehicle traffic, in parking garages, and under building overhangs.
So it seems any CO which was released oxidizes in the atmosphere.
No, the leftists specifically mention carbon dioxide when talking about gasoline automobiles. While, yes, cars emit both carbon monoxide and carbon dioxide, they have never mentioned this in any of their campaigns against cars. I do agree though, carbon monoxide is dangerous and of course it's not good to pump too much of it into the air, but again, leftists never talk about reducing carbon monoxide, mainly because the levels that are emitted into the atmosphere are negligible.
look how much trash I picked up in West Hollywood a few months ago on one block. Four face muzzles within like 500 feet. These people are beyond a joke. But they ban plastic straws. How they have any power at this point is frightening.
This is a fair point! Lithium mines do have their fair share of issues. However, the end result (hybrid cars vs gas) is better for the environment overall.
It's not perfect, but it's better than pipelines and gas emissions.
So if neither one is good for the environment, but one is just a teensy bit better, does it make sense to overhaul all the infrastructure and force everyone to get new vehicles? This is like putting a bandaid on a 6inch gash. You may stop some bleeding, but it’s not effective. There are better technologies out there and electric cars are definitely not the way.
No No No you got it all wrong. The pipeline only transports oil. You need a photo of thousands of petroleum guzzling heavy vehicles moving lithium across the country.
Dont forget all the extra nuclear power plants and coal burning power plants we will need to.build and all the tens of thousands of trees that will need cut down to build an electrical grid that could keep all those cars charged
Dont forget about the single point of failure/control pushing every energy system on the “grid”. Or maybe DS POV single point of success?
Like having a monoculture of corn. A plague comes through and destroys the whole crop. Or having multiple complementary systems to be resistant to system collapse. They wouldn’t want the whole system to be dependent on a single energy paradigm in the face of climate change would they? Climate change deniers! /s
Hey cousin! I prob have a few of those ancestors. Though I have to research more actual family tree. Did one of those genetic ancestry things came back I have about approx 50% genes from Celtic countries one of them being Ireland. It was a gift though prob shouldn’t have done the test as now I’m in a database somewhere. Though I’m already in a database for prior service so I figured ok might as well find out.
I have found that many of Celtic persuasion tend to be on creative and musical inclined at least in my family. Not sure if that is a general trend but seem to be lots of creative people (authors musicians etc) from Ireland, Scotland, Wales.
Several years ago I had gone on a tour of Ireland and remember the learning the McCool legend at the giants causeway. Learned lots of interesting history around the island including the Viking settlements. Drank lots of Guinness of course. :)
I also did one of those dna tests, but I pretty much knew where some of my family came from. On my mother’s side ... Irish & Italian, dads side ... English, my dad was born in England & came to US when he was about 7 yrs old & Scottish.
So test says I’m ...99.6% European (no surprise there), 84.6% Northwestern European, 71.8% British & Irish (they gave me a list of regions for both also), 5.6% Scandinavian & 14.7% Italian.
Though I for the most part knew where my family was from, it’s still interesting to learn about it. My dad told me long ago that he checked into his ancestry and said one of our ancestors was a pirate. And another ancestor I found on my own (if he’s an ancestor, has same last name & he was traveling to NJ where he lived until he died, which is where my father lived after coming from England & still lives & where I was born) was a survivor of the Titanic.
It took the English about 800-1,000 years to take over Ireland. That's because the Irish lived in local communities with local government (such as it was) with no central government.
There was no "White House" or "Congress" to take over and rule over all. They had to go village by village, and by the time they got through part of it, the previous conquests were rising up against them, and they had to do it all over again.
Great lesson that local govenment is best.
Hey and you wouldn’t want to put out if work the slave labor in Congo and China pulling cobalt and rare earth metals out if the ground would they? Such racists! /s
I am part Cherokee, Pawnee, and Lightfoot. Anglo as well.
Well. I was raised that there is an elite class that has always brutalized the populations of the world for profit and power. If not Andrew Jackson it would have been someone else. Now the only chance any human has to see peace and true freedom is to pull those people from power. None of us can walk as one and attain that. We must walk together. The only thing that stands in the way of complete tyranny is the United States Constitution. It must never fall.
Back in the day people used to dump LiPo packs in a bucket of salt water to discharge before disposal. Wouldn't surprise me if there are a few at the bottom of the ocean or a lake.
Batteries are up there with tyres and gas bottles in the list of shit that is a pain in the arse to get rid of.
I always thought EVs are dumb on so many levels environmentally and energy security wise.
Not to mention to COAL PLANTS that create the electricity to charge those batteries.
Years ago I did some freelance writing; one assignment was for a company mining rare earth metals for smart phones etc. Found out horrific facts about the devastation, pollution and damage it caused to many communities. Realised this company had poisoned the water supply of villagers in many areas (among other things) and they needed a propaganda piece to make them look like they were the good guys. I waited 'till the very last minute to ditch it. The ignorance and hypocrisy of those telling us to be green is staggering.
My sister Is currently a freelance writer, and has shown me some of the subjects certain companies ask for. She turns them away after they ask her to revise her words because it, "doesn't fit in with their agenda". For example, she wrote about how you can survive off a minimum wage income, and the people who were paying for it basically said that they didn't want logic, they wanted to get people outraged.
It’s the same with those huge wind turbines all of it, it’s all a sham. Just like President Trump has said many times.
I know I still recycle though.
I recycle because they’d prob fine me if I didn’t so whatevs
I would recycle, if it actually accomplished anything. There is no money in it, so everything that goes into the recycling bins at the local convenience center gets dumped in a landfill. I just throw everything into the regular trash now, except for large things that have to go in the other dumpsters.
That may be what NY or some other places do, but here in NC, it goes into a hole in the ground (landfill). Sometimes, when it pays enough, the recyclables actually get recycled. The metals get recycled, but there's not a lot of money in that right now. The paper, plastic, and glass goes into the ground right now. The electronics may get shipped overseas. I haven't recycled any, so I haven't had the chance to inquire.
I think they might be polluting water in southeast Asia. I'll have to take some old junk in and ask around. Perhaps someone who doesn't care about management will tell me the truth.
The name of this particular company probably doesn't matter. I'm sure EVERY company mining rare earth metals does the exact same thing.
Yes it's worth considering, I feel a bit conflicted about having shares in a rare earth minerals etf, thinking I should do more research or just get out of it.
Get out of it. Unless you have gains.
Invest elsewhere.
How about crypto? :)
+28% or so but I don't have a large position, yeah I'm in crypto and it has definitely done better than stocks so far.
Are you saying I should get out of it for ethical reasons or because you think the sector will go down? I'm not sure if this is what you were getting at but I'm not about to go 100% into crypto.
Crypto will continue to outperform stocks imo, it’s risky sure, but no different than stocks. Stocks are performing well because it’s denominated by USD which is debasing at a fast rate.
So it’s a question of where can you get better returns.
No DOGE! :)
Pretty much all my stocks are in mining/resources with a good portion in the silver space (and to a lesser degree, gold) which are both undervalued/manipulated--this is the main reason why I'm inclined to maintain my position, as people who believe in big changes coming from the Q side of things, I believe there's a large shaking coming and I think things like metals manipulation will be ended and we could see a massive breakthrough in metals.
I also want to reiterate that I'm not comfortable going all in on crypto, I have enough for the gains to make me happy.
The name is a joke too.
They also want wind farms.
Wind farms will result in so much deforestation
Trump even signed the One Trillion Trees Executive Order Promoting Conservation and Regeneration of Our Nation’s Forests
On subject of fusion, this will cause a moon grab (not the that kind) the actual moon as countries realize a lot of He3 needed for fusion is in the moon regolith. It will be like fighting over Mideast oil but fighting over moon He3. The more things change the more they stay the same.
Why have we not gone to the moon in decades?
Username most definitely checks out.
For a good laugh... look up bladeless turbines XD
LOL. We already have something that bends back and forth in the wind...it's called a tree.
The biggest windmill farm on the east coast is in my area, and not a single tree was cut down. It is located on miles of farmland, and the land in between is still being farmed. The windmills are over 300 feet tall, and you can see them from miles away. They are eyesores. They will soon start failing.
BTW, we don't really need more trees. There are more trees in the US now than back in the 1600s. Arbor Day caused a lot of trees to be planted in areas that never had trees before, destroying the original plant life of the area.
Not to mention electric cars' batteries emit C02 like gas cars do.
https://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/international-issues/electric-vehicles-in-germany-emit-more-carbon-dioxide-than-diesel-vehicles/
There's also a slave labor and deforestation issue.
It is all about tyrannical control. The environment is the current EXCUSE to grab control of the entire energy supply chain, and manipulate it to get rich off of it. Covid was the excuse for medical and lucrative vax scam (zero liability and huge bucks for each jab; of course, those financially profiting strongly recommend it). Expect disruptions in the food supply chain. Noting that they are now touting fake meat, watch carefully what happens to the real meat supply.
There is no logical thought when it comes to leftists; emotion is all they have. If the media and whoever they listen to convinces them their beliefs will "save the planet", they'll go with it. If the media tells them covid "vaccines" will save the world, they'll get it. Etc., etc.
do you know we can pull CO2 from the atmosphere and create fuel.. we don't need oil but consumers love cheap shit. Nasa invented a car that ran 60+miles to the gallon but it was bought and shelved by the big oil companies OIL COMPANIES DONT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT YOU so why do you care when other people don't want this shit in their back yard and fight to protect their environment. Are you offended do you need a safe space then stop crying about it.... who stickied this shit
CO2 is a gaz, plants need.
If they are talking about the Stirling engine, then they're mistaken. NASA put one in a 4 door AMC liftback and got 28 mpg.
"We just need a couple trillion dollars to figure out how to make the windmills get the battery thingies out of the ground."
Oh I Know, I Know!!
The top one is green.
Nice optic! ??It’s all about optics, right?! ✝️??
Most pipelines are underground as well so that picture could be greener. Those are bitches to keep up though and require constant maintenance.
I think that one is the Alaska Pipe Line, has the heat panels on top of each structure to try and stop the permafrost from thawing too much.
Not sure if the bottom picture is of a lithium mine or not. Doesn't really matter as the point is made. They have to haul a lot of dirt to get rare earth and other required minerals out of the ground.
There is another lithium pit twice as big where they mine the main ingredient for the democrats psych drugs.
Adrenochrome farm-? Oh wait—that’s a different sort of pit.
I tried explaining that to someone years ago and it just didn't sink in.
I'm an Environmental Scientist and I approve this thread.
Give us some inside data.
For example, are your colleagues who believe this green stuff just out of their minds? Or just immensely stupid?
A little background, I worked for a state environmental regulatory agency for a few years. I even helped write some of the regulations myself. Almost everyone there were scientists and engineers. Learning the actual science and engineering behind environmental processes gives you a clear perspective on what is actually going on. There were 4 divisions in that agency Air, Water, Land, and the legal department. Basically, states take the EPA regulations and adopt them. It is up to the states to enforce this. Individual states can make their regulations more stringent than the EPA regulations. However, states cannot make their regulations more lax than the EPA regulations. The EPA regs are pretty much the foundation that you build all your state regulatory agencies on. So, when a new President comes in, he cannot just ditch the current guidelines and start dumping things into our air, land, and water. Despite what the dumbass leftists say, Trump DID NOTHING to "harm the environment." What he did do was lift some of the absurd add-on regulations imposed by the Marx-bama administration. These ridiculous and unachievable regulations/sanctions on certain companies are stacked on top of the existing EPA regulations. When these companies cannot adhere to these over-reaching requirements they have to pay a fine. Guess who gets the money from the fine. It's "legal" extortion. The EPA regulations do enough as far as protecting the environment,although there are a lot of leftists working at the EPA that want more and more strict guidelines. It's not about the environment. It's about power and control.
Let me summarize by saying that we are doing a FANTASTIC JOB of managing and protecting our environment in this country. Don't let anyone tell you differently. If they do, they're obviously not a scientist or engineer that actually took the time to learn about our environment. These people that wail and whine about the environment are environmentalists. Environmentalists are people that aren't scientists or engineers. They are people that feel strongly and want to "help" the environment. They're basically uneducated morons that try to tell you what needs to be done when they have no actual knowledge of what needs to be done. For example, that brain dead, fucktarded liar AOC.
As far as the people I worked with, there weren't really any zealots there. It may have changed since I worked there but I doubt it. All the people working there went to school to learn the various processes and science behind protecting the environment. So, when you have that knowledge you do your job of enforcing the regulations on book. I don't recall anything being unreasonably regulated. Everything from air emissions, to groundwater monitoring, to hazardous waste disposal was based on science and doing the best thing for the environment.
I think what Trump should have done was to go to the Paris Climate Accord blah and dump a copy of all our EPA regulations and tell them that when they get their countries up to our standards, then we can talk about the real problem, China and India.
Hope this was somewhat helpful. I tend to go a little overboard because it makes me so damn mad when I hear these idiots who have no idea of what they are talking about, trying to tell us about the environment and the "damage" we're doing when in reality we are doing a fantastic job of protecting our environment in the United States.
Thank you fren for this excellent insight!
You should make a new/fresh post on the board with this info.
Thank you for the compliment, fren. I may have to do that.
Riiiiight
Oooh ooh I know this one. I have a picture of an aluminium mine mislabeled as a open pit oil sands operation. Checkmate!
I should be a professional deboonker
So bad batteries don't grow on trees.
The one on top runs through North America, the bottom ones are not. The Globalist want North America as their sanctuary.
I'm pretty sure a battery is an energy storage mechanism. And currently the electricity at the charging stations is supplied mostly, if not entirely, by coal and natural gas. Thus the battery powered cars are coal/natural gas cars. You don't even need to get into mining of battery material until the electricity at the charging stations is mostly, if not completely, supplied by renewable energy sources.
That's one argument they can't even bother with. It destroys their narrative.
Yep. And after the mining, comes the refining. Another good one.
Three words: Location, location, location.
I thought they were cobalt mines in Africa using child slave labor.
I'm green, but it's hard to talk about because I can count the number of legitimate green people I've met on one hand. Everyone else either really doesn't care, or wants to make everyone else give their freedom to government (never an answer) on the basis of things that aren't true.
The gasoline burned and converted to CO2 also feeds the trees, encouraging MORE greenery growth. YEAH SCIENCE BITCH! Photosynthesis! We learned this in 3rd grade!
https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2016/carbon-dioxide-fertilization-greening-earth
Now they talk about climate change in the article, which I think is junk science, but as you mention, it seems more C02 results in more greenery.
I think you're confusing carbon dioxide (what we breath out) vs carbon monoxide (what cars exhaust). Way different
From my searching it appears you're incorrect. Combustion produces carbon dioxide. The carbon monoxide comes from incomplete combustion, which it seems there is always some of, but regardless, it appears most of the gas produced from combustion is carbon dioxide.
edit:
from https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/engineering/carbon-monoxide:
So it seems any CO which was released oxidizes in the atmosphere.
from https://www.chemicool.com/elements/composition-of-air.html:
Looks like we shouldn't be worried about the concentrations of CO in the air.
And from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exhaust_gas:
If this chart is correct then carbon monoxide emission from a passenger car looks to be about 1/20th the carbon dioxide emission.
No, the leftists specifically mention carbon dioxide when talking about gasoline automobiles. While, yes, cars emit both carbon monoxide and carbon dioxide, they have never mentioned this in any of their campaigns against cars. I do agree though, carbon monoxide is dangerous and of course it's not good to pump too much of it into the air, but again, leftists never talk about reducing carbon monoxide, mainly because the levels that are emitted into the atmosphere are negligible.
Rare earth mining is so nasty the EPA won’t let the US do it. China can tho.
https://youtu.be/STWsUHk84xg
look how much trash I picked up in West Hollywood a few months ago on one block. Four face muzzles within like 500 feet. These people are beyond a joke. But they ban plastic straws. How they have any power at this point is frightening.
This is a fair point! Lithium mines do have their fair share of issues. However, the end result (hybrid cars vs gas) is better for the environment overall.
It's not perfect, but it's better than pipelines and gas emissions.
So if neither one is good for the environment, but one is just a teensy bit better, does it make sense to overhaul all the infrastructure and force everyone to get new vehicles? This is like putting a bandaid on a 6inch gash. You may stop some bleeding, but it’s not effective. There are better technologies out there and electric cars are definitely not the way.
I didn't say it was a teensy bit better. I think it's considerably better.
Explain the science please. You think it is? I actually went to school for this stuff. Would love to have a debate.
The science of hybrid cars vs standard cars? Emissions alone is what I'm basing it off of.
https://youtu.be/j_dkXeWsXio