The real voting totals tell a different story. Hopefully those will be made public sometime soon.
The MSM lies. They lie about everything. Think mirror (mirror-image opposite of reality). They lie to make people believe that the leftist minority is instead a majority.
People can get a fairly accurate idea of what is true just by applying this mirror principle to the things that are said by the MSM. Whatever they say, think of the mirror-image opposite being true.
With any luck, the MSM will be destroyed soon, and we won't have to do these sorts of mental gymnastics going forward.
I'm socially liberal. (Don't get that confused with cutting cocks off of small kids.) But I don't give a Frenchman's fuck if two dudes want to shack up. None of my business. All I'm concerned about is:
the Government minding it's own business
congress spending our money like a sixteen year old trust fund baby with daddy's black AMEX
the Deep State's existence
unending unjust unreasonable and unjustified wars
unreasonable taxes
the radical left and their ilk
stolen elections
I don't care if your Gay or whatever. I care if you're a Patriot. I'd just as soon enjoy a beer with Richard Grenell over any cuck in Congress. Including Republican "conservative" "Christians" ala Mike Pence the traitorous POS. Grenell may be gay, but Pence is a faggot!
No. Just about everything you describe is actually libertarian (small "L" - not the nutjob political party). Many people under the conservative banner are conservative on fiscal issues, but moderate (libertarian) on social issues. That is fairly common.
It also describes many independents as well. It is a big tent, with room for lots of different people that have the important things that really matter in common.
DS "uniparty" scumbags like Pence cloak themselves as social (religious) conservatives, and then... [think mirror]... do a lot of evil shit that goes against the teachings of every major religion.
Libertarians is a political part with characteristics of both left wing and right wing. in other words liberal and conservative characteristics. So it is natural that when person who is socially liberal briefly describes their views and professes to not be a democrat you might see them as libertarian but that does not mean that they are not a liberal. It just means that because they are not typical they don't fall into onen of your boxes.
Most people thought of Jordan Peterson as a right wing conservative because he was anti far left and did not fit into one of their boxes but he is definitely a liberal.
People who really think for themselves are often really difficult to fit into generic boxes.
Just like rainbows, leftists have distorted the true meaning of liberal. They are not liberals. They are socialists. Leftists. Totalitarians. They are fucking Cunts.
As Mel Gibson said... I just want "FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOM"
I'm also socially liberal, but have never seen any reason to back the democrats. Right now I find myself identifying more with conservatives and Republicans on many political issues due to the extremities that the left has gone.
Although I could not identify with George Bush Jr, even when he had the right supporting him, the NWO and NWO wars I still did not identify with the democrat party.
I'm not easily swayed and I don't confuse my social views with political views
Politically I think we should have very little government. I believe in human rights and equality so I believe in autonomy, liberty and freedom not government/laws in everybody's buissness.
I appreciate your comment and concise list: ALL of these are systems that were eventually used/outright designed to keep us divided, so finding that they have grown wildly our of line is not all that surprising and is a useful tool in waking people up.
Think about when these systems were humming along without a hitch at the behest of those who control economies while most folks were none-the-wiser.
The ideal prison is not only invisible to the prisoner, but appealing. Fortunately this prison has unwittingly allowed us to talk to one another, which will hasten our escape.
One of my 2 liberal daughters seems to be coming over from the dark side, the other one (in order to not admit she might have been wrong) is becoming a non player.
One of the reasons I don't talk politics to one of my kids right now is that I don't want him to say things that are so demonstrably untrue and then have his ego dig in. In the meantime, I am hoping his obsession with GME is a red pill high-colonic.
If he can understand that one part of the system/establishment is corrupt and untrustworthy...he will have an easier time when he learns it was ALL criminal. Media, DC, charities, medical industry/big pharma, NATO, social media, UN, WHO, CDC, all of it. Gotta start somewhere with most people.
That's what I am hoping. I mentioned the "suicide" of McAfee and he actually laughed. The GME boards on Reddit have some red pilled commenters - some might even be plants. But whatever it takes to wake him up.
I’m very proud of the job I did with my adult kids. My son calls himself a libertarian. My youngest claims not to talk politics but her statements reflect she is hard right. She has no tolerance for her peers “bullshit”. My only problem is my oldest. She is a teacher. Gotta hand it to her though. She homeschooled her two boys through this. So maybe she is awake and can’t admit it.
Most americans have always been socially liberal. It means minding your own business. What consenting adults do with each other or to their own bodies is nobodies business but theirs.
Yeah but many don't. Their are a lot of "closet" Trump supporting gays. As with any other group, if they're vocal about it, they get eaten by their own (and not in a good way lol)
Yep, "Classical" Liberalism is all about that. The fact that "liberal" now means "in favor of big government" is an inversion of its original meaning, just like Commies do with everything.
I never minded what they wanted to do in the bedroom.
I do mind they want to call it marriage, and used the courts to overturn our votes, and now threaten us personally if we keep to the actual definition of marriage.
I'm of the opinion that on a level playing field, liberal Dems would be lucky to get 20% of the votes.
This myth that our nation is divided 40/40 with 20% in the middle that could go either way is just so the Dem base doesn't lose heart + overconfidence because they know they have the fuckery in the voting tabulation sector to back them up.
TN here. I know of about a dozen hard-core lefties. Thats it. I am in public daily and talk to everyone for my businesses. I'd say 75 percent of folks are with us. In TN.
East Tennessee here, and my observations match yours, although maybe just a slight bit more toward conservative / libertarian. Had an interesting lunch with a Presbyterian minister yesterday, and he admitted to me that in his professional church life he has to appear non-partisan, but is a true libertarian and cannot admit that except to a very small group of people. I think it's quite possible that there are a lot of people who might answer any poll with whatever responses the pollster wants to hear, but privately hold quite different views.
My adult children of course are all in on the gay and trans agenda. I had no idea until one day I brought up that drag-queen story hour item, and I was shocked to find that they thought it was fine. Then they were distributing condoms at the Boy Scout jamboree. They thought that was ok too and I was being a bigot for thinking it was inappropriate.
So they all got programmed with these ideas and I never knew anything about it.
Since they are in the election steal up their filthy eyeballs, they are obligated to try and fabricate the support that pedo joe does not have. Pretending there are millions of lunatics out there that dont know what genders are and demand businesses get burned and that the nation elect a molester who can barely talk, and a drunken slave-owner hooker.
They have to conjure up literally 80 million plus crazy people. Talk about a tough sell.
Nope that’s a major fucking lie. I will never get everyone around me on the Trump Train there was just so much damage done to their psyche. But I have seen every single moderate who didn’t vote for trump around me flip. They are pissed. This is the biggest load of shit I’ve seen.
If they claim transgender they shouldnt be allowed in any sport. It's like wanting to play for both sides in the same game.
Pick a side and stay there.
Socially liberal does not mean you are liberal. It means you have less/no concern over what consenting adults do in private. It does not mean you support CRT, BLM, anarchy, socialism, communism, Marxism, UBI, open borders, et all which is likely what that poll would like readers to infer. I am not "socially liberal" but know several that are and they are as hardcore on 2A, national defense, anti-communism, etc. as I am.
After decades of rewriting past history, they are now working hard at writing future history.
It doesn't matter that we can see that every news headlines is a blatant lie, because they know that if they keep it up long enough, it will be the history that is taught to future generations.
A stupid poll, of which accuracy is highly questionable, is considered "Breaking News"? They are soooo pushing a narrative. It honestly comical at this point, it's so blatant.
These polls are almost always fictitious. Sampling only ~ 1K or l as is NOT a sampling of the general public as a whole. The 2020 elections proved that. [their] censorship of anything non liberally progressive is proof. [their] targeting of anything non liberally progressive is proof.
We are the not so silent majority. Always have been. Our "silence" is due to [their] tactics.
Anyone who still believe these polls are anything but wishful thinking on [their] part is an idiot.
Democrats socialists liberals are 100% for murdering babies at any time even after birth
Decent conservative Christians by tearing people of the earth by murdering babies the most important of practices and oppose it with every fiber of our being
It has always been and will always be the greatest divide in politics
It says 'socially liberal', it does not say politically liberal, or democrat.
Each of those terms are different things.
I am socially liberal but would never back the democrat party in anyway and never would have . I am also more old fashioned than many conservatives in my age group (46).
You can be socially liberal, but not be a leftist, or a democrat. You can be a conservative but vote democrat. You can be a democrat, but not actually be a real liberal, I. Fact Id say there are as many fake liberal democrats as there are are fake conservative Republicans.
A person who is actually liberal would not be a racist who seeks to stratify society.
The founding fathers would have been called liberals in today's terms, just like the first settlers who came here on the Mayflower would have been called conservatives using today's terms
Just like there are RINOs, there are LINOs.
Many people who are liberal have had their minds hijacked by the democrat party because the democrat party speaks of liberal ideals in the same way the RINOs hijacked the conservative mind when republican voters feverishly backed George Bush Jr when he did his part to usher in the NWO and started a bunch of wars for them..
I never take any polls anymore. They lie. Same way it's been said conservatives shouldn't be interviewed on MSM, I don't think we should be polled either.
Of course...everything is the opposite of what the fake news tells us. The real headline is "Democrats worried because more Americans have turned to traditional conservative values."
I had a conversation recently related to this subject. A friend, who is awake for the most part, tries to tell me that the world is trending to the left. I say now way, there's many more of us than them. I tell him that the media wants you to think that because the media and their handlers know that the sheep follow trends and want to be with the majority. The left and their handlers are cheating in elections worldwide and installing leftist candidates, making it look like people are voting left. They control the elections, the media, the polls, everything is a lie. My friend doesn't agree with me and that's OK with me. He's awake enough that he will eventually come around to the idea. I planted a seed and that's all I can do.
this bullshit is no different than the media trying to make the lgbtq gaggle of mental misfits the majority of Americans, too. they are a small minority, yet every chance you get to unfortunately see any mainstream propaganda all you see is gay pride and rainbows and other morally bankrupt bullshit!
I agree with this ... socially conservative meaning they support lgbt etc. and social justice programs.
However I think more people in general are waking up politically and geo political world, the fake news world etc. but put it this way... how many people are still wearing masks...?
Where I am in CT I’m still only one of the few I see with no mask is Home Depot, grocery stores, and so forth.... and no I did not get the jab.
I forget who said it, but I believe it was a political strategist who said that opinion polls are not a tool to gauge public opinion, but to affect it. Herd mentality and social pressure are a large factor in a lot of people's beliefs. That's why in Canada every other day we have a poll in the Communist Broadcasting Corporation that 70-90% of canadians support lockdowns and vaccine passports (even though if you look into the study it was only a handful of people in Ottawa)
I wouldn't trust any of these findings, even if Gallup has a good sampling and execution design, which it hasn't always used in the past. There's a tremendous likelihood of systematic bias in respondents, which hasn't been noticed in previous years. For example, this is a phone survey. . .who's home to take the survey calls? Respondents who are at home, probably watching a lot of MSM and bored enough to answer their stupid questions. Plus, with more than a year of socially engineered chaos and confusion, I doubt people think of themselves as "socially liberal" or "socially conservative" anymore. Brain fog doesn't make for meaningful survey responses.
The real voting totals tell a different story. Hopefully those will be made public sometime soon.
The MSM lies. They lie about everything. Think mirror (mirror-image opposite of reality). They lie to make people believe that the leftist minority is instead a majority.
People can get a fairly accurate idea of what is true just by applying this mirror principle to the things that are said by the MSM. Whatever they say, think of the mirror-image opposite being true.
With any luck, the MSM will be destroyed soon, and we won't have to do these sorts of mental gymnastics going forward.
I'm socially liberal. (Don't get that confused with cutting cocks off of small kids.) But I don't give a Frenchman's fuck if two dudes want to shack up. None of my business. All I'm concerned about is:
I don't care if your Gay or whatever. I care if you're a Patriot. I'd just as soon enjoy a beer with Richard Grenell over any cuck in Congress. Including Republican "conservative" "Christians" ala Mike Pence the traitorous POS. Grenell may be gay, but Pence is a faggot!
No. Just about everything you describe is actually libertarian (small "L" - not the nutjob political party). Many people under the conservative banner are conservative on fiscal issues, but moderate (libertarian) on social issues. That is fairly common.
It also describes many independents as well. It is a big tent, with room for lots of different people that have the important things that really matter in common.
DS "uniparty" scumbags like Pence cloak themselves as social (religious) conservatives, and then... [think mirror]... do a lot of evil shit that goes against the teachings of every major religion.
Libertarians is a political part with characteristics of both left wing and right wing. in other words liberal and conservative characteristics. So it is natural that when person who is socially liberal briefly describes their views and professes to not be a democrat you might see them as libertarian but that does not mean that they are not a liberal. It just means that because they are not typical they don't fall into onen of your boxes.
Most people thought of Jordan Peterson as a right wing conservative because he was anti far left and did not fit into one of their boxes but he is definitely a liberal.
People who really think for themselves are often really difficult to fit into generic boxes.
I live in California I don't think you could have said that any better If you tried.
That sounds a lot like "Classical Liberal" ( https://mises.org/library/what-classical-liberalism ) and I'm with you.
Just like rainbows, leftists have distorted the true meaning of liberal. They are not liberals. They are socialists. Leftists. Totalitarians. They are fucking Cunts.
As Mel Gibson said... I just want "FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOM"
I'm also socially liberal, but have never seen any reason to back the democrats. Right now I find myself identifying more with conservatives and Republicans on many political issues due to the extremities that the left has gone.
Although I could not identify with George Bush Jr, even when he had the right supporting him, the NWO and NWO wars I still did not identify with the democrat party.
I'm not easily swayed and I don't confuse my social views with political views
Politically I think we should have very little government. I believe in human rights and equality so I believe in autonomy, liberty and freedom not government/laws in everybody's buissness.
I appreciate your comment and concise list: ALL of these are systems that were eventually used/outright designed to keep us divided, so finding that they have grown wildly our of line is not all that surprising and is a useful tool in waking people up.
Think about when these systems were humming along without a hitch at the behest of those who control economies while most folks were none-the-wiser.
The ideal prison is not only invisible to the prisoner, but appealing. Fortunately this prison has unwittingly allowed us to talk to one another, which will hasten our escape.
One of my 2 liberal daughters seems to be coming over from the dark side, the other one (in order to not admit she might have been wrong) is becoming a non player.
One of the reasons I don't talk politics to one of my kids right now is that I don't want him to say things that are so demonstrably untrue and then have his ego dig in. In the meantime, I am hoping his obsession with GME is a red pill high-colonic.
If he can understand that one part of the system/establishment is corrupt and untrustworthy...he will have an easier time when he learns it was ALL criminal. Media, DC, charities, medical industry/big pharma, NATO, social media, UN, WHO, CDC, all of it. Gotta start somewhere with most people.
That's what I am hoping. I mentioned the "suicide" of McAfee and he actually laughed. The GME boards on Reddit have some red pilled commenters - some might even be plants. But whatever it takes to wake him up.
I’m very proud of the job I did with my adult kids. My son calls himself a libertarian. My youngest claims not to talk politics but her statements reflect she is hard right. She has no tolerance for her peers “bullshit”. My only problem is my oldest. She is a teacher. Gotta hand it to her though. She homeschooled her two boys through this. So maybe she is awake and can’t admit it.
Progress takes time and love despite the flaws you see; they'll come around :D
Most americans have always been socially liberal. It means minding your own business. What consenting adults do with each other or to their own bodies is nobodies business but theirs.
True. Too bad some force it on us then gripe when we disagree. We know the psychology behind it, and it is rather annoying.
Yeah but many don't. Their are a lot of "closet" Trump supporting gays. As with any other group, if they're vocal about it, they get eaten by their own (and not in a good way lol)
Yep, "Classical" Liberalism is all about that. The fact that "liberal" now means "in favor of big government" is an inversion of its original meaning, just like Commies do with everything.
Even think of the hippies of the 60's,
fear and distrust of 'the man',
limited government,
disliking of corporatist greed,
Distrust of political cronyism and cliques
anti-military industrial complex and foreign wars,
opposed to central banks and monopolies,
distrust of msm.
Peaceful protest and assembly
Just a Bunch of 'conspiracy theorists'
Who do they sound like today?
It's like Trump supporters have mixed the the political ideals of the 60's liberals with traditional Christian conservative beliefs.
Thank you for sharing, I don't hold them in a position of being faultless, but there are some commonalities.
Ive read quite a bit about how the hippie movement was a controlled counter culture by the CIA and others.
That touches on the origin of Hollywood and that the big rock stars of the period were all descendants of military intelligence officers.
Definitely and interesting period.
I never minded what they wanted to do in the bedroom.
I do mind they want to call it marriage, and used the courts to overturn our votes, and now threaten us personally if we keep to the actual definition of marriage.
Not a chance that so called poll is correct.
They had to pause the poll for three weeks till enough liberals creeped over the edge.
Gaslighting. Pure and simple.
I'm of the opinion that on a level playing field, liberal Dems would be lucky to get 20% of the votes.
This myth that our nation is divided 40/40 with 20% in the middle that could go either way is just so the Dem base doesn't lose heart + overconfidence because they know they have the fuckery in the voting tabulation sector to back them up.
Yep. Keep telling them what is obviously a lie is the truth, to normalize an agenda that easily 70% of the country is not cool with.
TN here. I know of about a dozen hard-core lefties. Thats it. I am in public daily and talk to everyone for my businesses. I'd say 75 percent of folks are with us. In TN.
East Tennessee here, and my observations match yours, although maybe just a slight bit more toward conservative / libertarian. Had an interesting lunch with a Presbyterian minister yesterday, and he admitted to me that in his professional church life he has to appear non-partisan, but is a true libertarian and cannot admit that except to a very small group of people. I think it's quite possible that there are a lot of people who might answer any poll with whatever responses the pollster wants to hear, but privately hold quite different views.
I'd classify myself constitutional conservative with some libertarian in there too.
Mountains of East TN here too. Hawkins
Originally from Scott County, now in Knox.
Hi neighbor. Sad story about the missing girl, Summer.
I am glad to hear this. ?
Mr. And Mrs. average IQ go with the flow. They listen to and agree with their particular flavor of the Uni-party. Thats what caused this mess...
THE CONFORMIST THE TRENDY
My adult children of course are all in on the gay and trans agenda. I had no idea until one day I brought up that drag-queen story hour item, and I was shocked to find that they thought it was fine. Then they were distributing condoms at the Boy Scout jamboree. They thought that was ok too and I was being a bigot for thinking it was inappropriate.
So they all got programmed with these ideas and I never knew anything about it.
Just goes to show their panic. “Don’t uprise, there are fewer of you” yeah... sure
Yeah, they're getting antsy and more importantly, they're out in the open now. No more pulling strings from the shadows.
The opposite is definitely true. There are conservatives in urban areas but there really aren't liberals in rural areas
Since they are in the election steal up their filthy eyeballs, they are obligated to try and fabricate the support that pedo joe does not have. Pretending there are millions of lunatics out there that dont know what genders are and demand businesses get burned and that the nation elect a molester who can barely talk, and a drunken slave-owner hooker.
They have to conjure up literally 80 million plus crazy people. Talk about a tough sell.
Nope that’s a major fucking lie. I will never get everyone around me on the Trump Train there was just so much damage done to their psyche. But I have seen every single moderate who didn’t vote for trump around me flip. They are pissed. This is the biggest load of shit I’ve seen.
They always phrase these polls in certain ways that get center and right wing people to vote, and then they skew what it means.
Like, "do you believe people should be able to be who they are"
"MORE PEOPLE THINK TRANSGENDERS SHOULD BE ABLE TO COMPETE AGAINST THE OPPOSITE GENDER!"
If they claim transgender they shouldnt be allowed in any sport. It's like wanting to play for both sides in the same game. Pick a side and stay there.
Socially liberal does not mean you are liberal. It means you have less/no concern over what consenting adults do in private. It does not mean you support CRT, BLM, anarchy, socialism, communism, Marxism, UBI, open borders, et all which is likely what that poll would like readers to infer. I am not "socially liberal" but know several that are and they are as hardcore on 2A, national defense, anti-communism, etc. as I am.
Exactly, it's not the same as politically left, or being a democrat.
After decades of rewriting past history, they are now working hard at writing future history.
It doesn't matter that we can see that every news headlines is a blatant lie, because they know that if they keep it up long enough, it will be the history that is taught to future generations.
A stupid poll, of which accuracy is highly questionable, is considered "Breaking News"? They are soooo pushing a narrative. It honestly comical at this point, it's so blatant.
LOL polls...Come the fuck on.
It’s just a pack of LIES. Every-last-poll.
They only do these polls when the truth isn't going their way.
These polls are almost always fictitious. Sampling only ~ 1K or l as is NOT a sampling of the general public as a whole. The 2020 elections proved that. [their] censorship of anything non liberally progressive is proof. [their] targeting of anything non liberally progressive is proof.
We are the not so silent majority. Always have been. Our "silence" is due to [their] tactics.
Anyone who still believe these polls are anything but wishful thinking on [their] part is an idiot.
The great divide is baby killing
Democrats socialists liberals are 100% for murdering babies at any time even after birth
Decent conservative Christians by tearing people of the earth by murdering babies the most important of practices and oppose it with every fiber of our being
It has always been and will always be the greatest divide in politics
It says 'socially liberal', it does not say politically liberal, or democrat.
Each of those terms are different things.
I am socially liberal but would never back the democrat party in anyway and never would have . I am also more old fashioned than many conservatives in my age group (46).
You can be socially liberal, but not be a leftist, or a democrat. You can be a conservative but vote democrat. You can be a democrat, but not actually be a real liberal, I. Fact Id say there are as many fake liberal democrats as there are are fake conservative Republicans.
A person who is actually liberal would not be a racist who seeks to stratify society.
The founding fathers would have been called liberals in today's terms, just like the first settlers who came here on the Mayflower would have been called conservatives using today's terms
Just like there are RINOs, there are LINOs.
Many people who are liberal have had their minds hijacked by the democrat party because the democrat party speaks of liberal ideals in the same way the RINOs hijacked the conservative mind when republican voters feverishly backed George Bush Jr when he did his part to usher in the NWO and started a bunch of wars for them..
I never take any polls anymore. They lie. Same way it's been said conservatives shouldn't be interviewed on MSM, I don't think we should be polled either.
They lie.
Of course...everything is the opposite of what the fake news tells us. The real headline is "Democrats worried because more Americans have turned to traditional conservative values."
Depends on their definition of "liberal". I consider myself a liberal, but I'm not a fucking retarded progressive commie.
Liberals are pro free speech.
Any sane liberal is a Trump supporter.
I agree, same here.
I had a conversation recently related to this subject. A friend, who is awake for the most part, tries to tell me that the world is trending to the left. I say now way, there's many more of us than them. I tell him that the media wants you to think that because the media and their handlers know that the sheep follow trends and want to be with the majority. The left and their handlers are cheating in elections worldwide and installing leftist candidates, making it look like people are voting left. They control the elections, the media, the polls, everything is a lie. My friend doesn't agree with me and that's OK with me. He's awake enough that he will eventually come around to the idea. I planted a seed and that's all I can do.
That’s ALL IT TAKES. Great job!
this bullshit is no different than the media trying to make the lgbtq gaggle of mental misfits the majority of Americans, too. they are a small minority, yet every chance you get to unfortunately see any mainstream propaganda all you see is gay pride and rainbows and other morally bankrupt bullshit!
When have lamestream media ever told the truth. #fakenews
I agree with this ... socially conservative meaning they support lgbt etc. and social justice programs.
However I think more people in general are waking up politically and geo political world, the fake news world etc. but put it this way... how many people are still wearing masks...?
Where I am in CT I’m still only one of the few I see with no mask is Home Depot, grocery stores, and so forth.... and no I did not get the jab.
I forget who said it, but I believe it was a political strategist who said that opinion polls are not a tool to gauge public opinion, but to affect it. Herd mentality and social pressure are a large factor in a lot of people's beliefs. That's why in Canada every other day we have a poll in the Communist Broadcasting Corporation that 70-90% of canadians support lockdowns and vaccine passports (even though if you look into the study it was only a handful of people in Ottawa)
Poll must’ve been done using Dominion machines.
These headlines are propaganda and meant to demoralize
I wouldn't trust any of these findings, even if Gallup has a good sampling and execution design, which it hasn't always used in the past. There's a tremendous likelihood of systematic bias in respondents, which hasn't been noticed in previous years. For example, this is a phone survey. . .who's home to take the survey calls? Respondents who are at home, probably watching a lot of MSM and bored enough to answer their stupid questions. Plus, with more than a year of socially engineered chaos and confusion, I doubt people think of themselves as "socially liberal" or "socially conservative" anymore. Brain fog doesn't make for meaningful survey responses.
“If you tell a lie often enough...”
Repeat a lie often enough until you no longer need to repeat it.