I got into an argument with someone today online. The guy said "fuck you antivaxer morons". So I shared the link from the FDA that was posted yesterday and said that the jab kills at a 5:1 ratio. Two idiots laugh reacted it. I'm thinking part of the 4-6%.
I don't have anything else to say, I'm just so angry and frustrated. Shit like this makes me wonder if we're making any damn progress with these people. Some positivity would be appreciated.
FUCK THEM
there ya go...
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Agreed. At this point there is nothing else to say. I'll be polite, but I will never forget who the zombies were. Oh, we are not out of this shit show yet.
It's not about evidence or truth.
To admit they were in the wrong would be a massive blow to their ego and identity. What else were they wrong about?
Their changing stance won't happen in five minutes and probably only when the herd changes direction.
Great observation!
And they will blame us for their discomfort for showing the herd "alternative facts" and causing the herd to dissipate. I already get much anger for disturbing the herd. My friend's boyfriend is furious with me for redpilling her.
"The shephard is struck and the sheep are scattered." Opportunity to round up the nervous sheep.
Excellent observation, Stitch!
which really makes me wonder how the world will react to learn the "Qtards" were right all along.
I'm sure many will try to twist the facts to show that they in reality were right and we were deceived, but every day it's going to get harder and harder.
We were right far too early. It doesn't count being right too early.
I have heard that before!
And authoritative sources like the MSM and the WHO. How can they be blamed? /s
Probably
think narcissism
You never know which straw will break the camel’s back. For all you know they are showing laughing emojis while shitting their pants!
There are two sides to everyone: what you see on the outside and what you don't see on the inside.
Taken from a meme I saw yesterday. On arguments: Ask them "what proof would it take to change your mind?"
If they can't give you an answer -- stop wasting your time.
Solid advice.
I rarely engage with these idiots but I saw another guy getting flamed for saying "I'm not anti vax, I'm anti Covid vax" and I couldn't bite my tongue. Should have just stayed quiet.
You're getting such great advice. I know many of us are benefitting. Thank you for creating this post. The response above us is the best yet, btw.
Discussions need to be 'in good faith'. If they are not, your energy us being wasted. As you grow older you will become more conservative with your precious energies.
Thanks, fren! I'm glad you like the post, I was a little worried people would get mad because it's not news. But I agree, definitely some serious words of wisdom and encouragement in this thread.
I feel your pain...I get a bit emotional about this whole situation and only want people to wake up....Just stop...completely STOP arguing with these people...I learned this the hard way...inadvertantly lost my good job and have created a rift in my relationships with my parents...“Arguing with a fool proves there are two.”..you will thank me..you need to fight the urge..
Like I said in another comment, I rarely engage but I was standing up for a fellow fren. Won't make that mistake again
ahh gotcha...didn't know the context..I can tell you're a good person...just fight urge..it's hard when you know the truth...very hard..good luck.
Thanks, fren!
Next time, tell them you are not a antivaxer, you are a Pure Blood, Non-GMO. Then wish them luck with their next 10 rounds of booster shots. Oh NVM, they were not approved because of safety and efficacy concerns.
In all fairness, the guy that made that statement in the 8 hour FDA conference, is not part of the FDA. We need to be more cautious as to what we post as truth. I’m surprised that original post was stickies for so long, when it’s not the truth
Which is true, but people are out to “deboonk” all claims if even one statement is incorrect. All I’m saying is we need to make sure we have all all our I’s dotted and T’s crossed
5>1
Kek!
Most people around here already know to exercise discernment.
If you have a problem with the presented data, refute it. Otherwise, your virtuous comments don't really do anything but add more fluff for people to sift through. Something to consider moving forward.
This is a very good point. If the vax was killing at a 5:1 ratio then we'd have millions dead by now. I understand that there is lots of fuckery going on with the numbers but I can't believe it at a ratio of 5:1.
Okay, maybe "killing at a 5:1 ratio" is bad wording.
The vax kills 5 for every life saved. So that would be a little over 100,000 dead in the US. And considering the vax deaths manifest as heart problems I think it's completely plausible math.
This assertion is actually tied to the vax makers assertions about effectiveness, which is measured in how many vaccinated are necessary to prevent a case ( and potential death). I can't imagine the statistical pretzles necessary to make such guesses. It is all guesses, especially in the original small studies that were done before the EUA and mass vaccinations.
it ain't over til the fat lady sings...Winter is Coming..
Could be talking to bots or paid.
Good point, pede. There are a shitload of bots on FB
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Everywhere online. There’s a good chance.
"t's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled. " -Mark Twain
Being wrong is seeming the worst thing in the world to them. It's even worse to them then the end of the world I am realizing. These people would rather end the world than admit they are wrong. Mentally ill.
I concur. Years ago I started researching state mental institutions, sadly almost all of them were closed down due to budget cuts in the 80s and 90s. Now we have all these insane people running around forcing us to listen to their insanity.
Since I got into Q I have started to wonder if we need to bring back those state institutions to house the 4-6% so their insane bullshit doesn't pollute policial discourse anymore and poison western society any more than it already is.
Like the goods book says. Fools despise wisdom and instruction.
Unfortunately (and by purposed design of our deep state controlled society), there are a lot of educated fools who believe themselves to be wise and cannot fathom how foolish they actually are.
Depending on how well you know people you are trying to red pill, you can take your current approach of just throwing information at them in direct opposition to their position, or you can start using the Socratic method of questioning which encourages them to research for themselves the answers to questions. Of course those questions should generally by design point out the glaring holes in the propaganda matrix most people eat, sleep, and live in. Then in theory the fools with an interest in seeking out truth might notice they are actually in a fishbowl of water instead of thinking they are seeing the whole world clearly.
Good luck. Don't be discouraged, it's not on you if you tell them the truth and they reject it.
You have to admit we are living at a time where none of us can believe anything we're told. Those guys are the same way, but started out on the other side of the fence.
You did your part which was telling them about the 5:1 ratio which was recently reported and providing a link so they could look into it for themselves.
Now it is 100% on them to research what you said and determine whether or not they believe it as well.
Very well said, fren!
Well, let them boost on then. There's something beautiful to realize you remain a "pure blood."
Take a deep breath, step back, and remember:
The Lion is not concerned with the opinions of the sheep.
You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make that horse less retarded...
LOL!
Do not cast your pearls before swine.
You tried. That's all you can do. Move on and keep your wits. That way you can try and help the next guy/gal. God bless you.
Thanks, fren! God bless
Been there, done that. What I learned is I calmly inform and step back. As soon as they call you names or become vulgar you know you've won the argument.
I'm finding that some regret getting the vax now that other info is out and they are scared. Take it out on you, blaming the nonvaxed because they cant face the decision they made.
they'll be dead soon, so jokes on them
Tell them you prefer the pronouns pure-blood/untainted.
If we are right... and they are wrong... no reason to be angry now. They will eventually know.
You’re talking to bots….even if they’re real people, they’re bots.
I got a shock today, I got the flu and my book keeper came by to do my books. She is a Liberal (but I don't think so) and got the vax both shots. Its been months and no symptoms. I had given her Ivers before her first shot and NAC after her last shot. She hasn't taken the Ivers since. Today as I was in the next room barfing she yells did you take some Ivers. I said no and she comes in with trash bags covering her and eye holes punched through. She brought me a dose and also brought me Vit C, D, and zinc. I was shocked, she had been paying attention all along. Try laughing while barfing, I had tears coming down and she started to comfort me which made it worse till I was on the floor laughing and rolling, and told her to look in the mirror. She then started laughing, and said hey maybe I can answer the door in this for Halloween. Covered in white trash bags with her glasses on over her head bag.
I feel so much better and my fever broke a couple hours ago.
Idiots or bots...same same...not worth your energy.
I get your frustration and have felt the same. The pastor I listen to on a podcast talks about how to deal with these people. It's really tough to think of them as children that you approach with nothing but love and patience, but it does help if you can get there. Most of the time now I just don't engage past an initial knowledge nugget drop. If that goes south, convo is over. I bow out, send them good vibes (as best I can), and go on my merry eyes-wide-open way. I actually have pity for them. The meaner they get, the more pressure they're feeling. This can't be easy for the sleepers.
Agreed!
Wait, you actually believe that the jab kills 5 out of 6 people???
sighs
I already addressed this in another comment. Bad wording.
In the video the data analyst claimed that 5 people die for every one life saved.
Which doctors? The ones saying the shot is bad or good?
Read my comments.
5 die for every life saved. The math checks out.
And 'listen to doctors'? HAHAHAHAHAHA! The same ones saying ivermectin is horse paste?
Eff off.
So your argument summarizes "trust muh science, questioning bad" got it!
Handshakes gonna handshake. Maybe you would feel more at home over on covidcult.win or maybe Super Weenie Hut Jr's.
count up the number of people dead after taking the vax, now divide that number by 5 = the theoretical number of people who were prevented from dying by all those vaccines that were injected. That is what it means.
Those who drank the covidian koolaid and took the vaccines and pushed others to take the vaccines, can be redeemed only if they find their way to humility. Otherwise they will be unable to accept they are wrong without also accepting pretty much everything they thought of themselves was wrong.
We have nothing against anyone who wants to take the vax to take it. We wont force you from taking it. You dont force us to take it.
If you promote it, and if the people who trusted your judgement took it and suffer in the future, their blood is on your hands. Just know that "I did not know, I was just following the experts" will not cut it, because here we are showing you the actual facts and data that should tell you that you are becoming part of a genocide.
So the only thing you have to remember is - no excuses of any kind.
Red flag alright but not the kind you think.
Also all the famous people dropping dead after taking the vax doesn't strike you as a red flag?
The VAERS say 13,000 AT LEAST dead from the jab. A handful of antivaxers dead doesn't hold a candle to those numbers.
Like I said, if you have truly been learning anything from Q, you will know that there is a lot more to these "news" we hear, but yeah, you obviously are not a Q supporter lol
Famous vaxxed people who died: Lisa Shaw, Andy Michael, Simon Fraser, DJ Miss K, Dom Busby, Richard Gilliland
The truth info is out there and more easily accessible then it was even at the start of the pandemic. At this point it’s willful. There are some organically naive folks but they are intellectually disabled. Cognitively typical people are willfully going along with the giver narrative.
The internet isn't real life. They can do literally do nothing except hurdle insults from the safety of their keyboard.
The problems is you. You let yourself get worked up over this and gave them what they wanted: a reaction. You need to learn to let go and to approach everything with logic and reason and control your emotions.
Also ask yourself, what is your goal? Being right or what is right?
With all due respect, I don't need a lecture on not taking things personally. I don't.
I get frustrated because people refuse to wake up. I am doing my part in trying to provide information and people will still not break the programming. That is the source of my frustration.
My intent is doing the right thing but if nobody will listen what's the use of even trying?
When you get a LOL response, I would take that as insecurity.
Not a bad interpretation!
The spiritual masters taught that one of the immediate effects of the sin of lust is a blinding of the intellect. The intellect is meant to know the truth and discern truth from error. Most people are dead in their sin and up to their eyes in porn and fornication. They are completely blind to the truth and reality because they have divorced themselves from Jesus Christ, who is the truth itself, by their sin.
So there is actually quite a bit of truth to the statement 'masturbating will make you blind.'
They laughed because deep down inside they know they fucked up. The laugh is the only defense measure they can put out in front of damning evidence. What you won’t see is in their own little quiet time they’re panicked and frightened.