well, its like this... the establishment has been able to create and dictate reality to everyone else, for thousands of years,
and its only since the availability of the internet that the common person is able to find "alternative" information.
i was in a room full of high school age kids, and i asked them each, in front of the entire group, if they believed that men had walked on the moon, and not one single one of them believed it.
this made me happy, and gave me hope for the future
Q said the moon landings were real, but I think at the very least the footage was faked. Assuming the moon landings are true, I'd say that NASA needed to have at least a plan to show footage of something for the people at home on TV because it would be rather lame for them to go all the way to the moon, only to find out that the video transmission failed. Just an idea.
Yet some people want you to believe (((they))) can control the weather with HAARP which cost a mere $290 million to build, or "portals to hell" with CERN, chem-trails... the list goes on.
All conceived to distract you from the Real conspiracies. To make you feel like Alice, tumbling down the rabbit hole.
There is some science you can't refute though. Those are the sorts of things where you can see the derivations & proofs. Science is about being honest with evidence & then finding patterns from it, which hold under scrutiny.
For instance Q makes statements along these lines, Q makes statements & correlations & implies it's a little too unlikely to be just co-incidence. Not exactly science but it's more along that trend
Exactly my fren! It is the very nature of science itself that it is always refutable! Einstein's theory of relativity proved that Newtonian physics is not quite right and you know what else? Einstein's theory of relativity rests on his postulate of the equivalence principle (that inertial mass is the same as gravitational mass) From that he proved that space is effectively "curved" Right?
Now, according to particle physics, the Higgs Boson is the carrier of inertial mass and the graviton should be the carrier of gravitation. They haven't found the graviton yet but one thing they do know is that it has no link to the Higgs boson - WHICH MEANS either particle physics isn't quite right or Einstein's theory is not quite right
and this is physics, the field of medicine is much more uncertain. There is NEVER a certain known undisputable truth. I often cite Galileo to the lame brained idiots that think the community of scientists know certain truth
I suspect the entire scene was scripted by hollywood.
First ObL acted like the typical cartoonish muslim terrorist, and used his wife as a human shield,
Then later they corrected the story, and said ObL did NOT use his wife as a human shield
Of course, many of us had suspected that ObL might not ever have existed, and was just a CIA cartoon cutout of a muslim terrorist.
The Bin Laden clan just happened to be long time family friends with the Bush family, supposedly a friendship build on oil, even though GHWB was probably always a CIA agent with a “Texas oil man” cover-story
“Oil man” GHWB called the FBI just before JFK was allegedly shot.
ObL codename Tim Osman
CNN found ObL in a cave, and got him to confess to 9/11 on video
ObL had been reported dead several times, even by Pakistani PM Benazir Bhutto
I like O’Neill but cannot for the life of me fathom the Pentagon approving his public life. I think they let him go on as long as he doesn’t divulge they killed a double. UBL died in Iran years prior. TBTB needed the UBL persona to carry on in order to carry out their ops.
Extortion 17 was supposed to be a clean up operation and it appeared successful until rumors of a survivor started to appear.
My husband said this in the beginning. He says, seals don't talk about their missions like Rob did. It does seem odd and it's most likely they approved him to be sort of a spokesperson for the whole obl snafu.
What about the wonderful, patriotic, amazing men who were on the teams that allegedly killed him?
They’re dead. They took down 3 Chinooks a week or two after the operation, killing about 27 SEALs. Initial media reports said that 9/10 dead were on the OBL op. By the time of congressional hearings the story changed… now its memory holed.
This was a huge affront to the Muslim community - the belief that being buried at see allows for the soul to be thrashed and thrown about for an endless eternity… proper Muslim burial requires the person to be facing Mecca and buried in the ground. OBL is alive and well living w/ his family on a west Texas ranch - tax payer funded of course ,…
Celebrities / politicians who are dirty & compromised; whether bribery or pedophilia; will be given the chance to "commit suicide" and have a respectable out; to not have their entire life and legacy burnt to the ground by revealing their degeneracy.
So if anyone is trying to keep anything about kobe hush-hush.... the most logical conclusion for me is.......he was into nasty, satanic shit......
Again; purely my speculation, but isn't that what Q has told us??
Q said "The Start" was Hillarys election which she obviously won against Jr. I hope he is alive, the first put into protection for what would play out over the next few decades. Yeah I know Q says Jr isn't, but do we honestly expect a different answer to that question? Why would Q have even addressed that question out of tons asked in the ama? It obviously served a purpose in the psyop. Who knows, just my .02
Let’s say he is alive: to answer your question on how he would survive hit squads over the years… in that instance only, I would ask what does he have on them… this only matters IF he is alive. He is an elite biggie. Keeping his secret would behoove them because of the insane amount of supporters filled with love for JFKjr. It would be absolute suicide for them to hurt/kill him or to spill his secret (IF he lives). I think if he is alive, he has it all on them.
Something that Q posted has bothered me from them dropping the post: ~Wait until you see who’s been talking to you here…~. It nags at me since very few people have the love and respect unmet by so many intelligent autists and pedes… JFKjr has earned such acknowledgment. I guess we’ll have to wait patiently and see “who” indeed has been talking to us on the Q board. WWG1WGA NCSWIC
If i had to speculate, he runs as VP under Trump. Trump serves 2 years of the term, then steps down as he has said "i only want to run the country ling enough till someone better steps up." Jr is president for 10 years.
I personally have a 50 dollar bet with my dad (far right, but normie) that Jr will be running for president in 2032.
1958 - 1962 Britannia Royal Naval College (18 - 22 yr.)
1962 - 1976 Royal Navy (22 to 36 years old)
1973 - 1977 The Warship / Co-creator / Writer BBC TV-Drama / Navy / 33 yr
1976 - A Slaying in September / Novel / 36 yr
1978 - Alliance Creator / Writer ITV TV Detective-Mystery Series / 38 yr
1978 / 1980 The Sandbaggers Creator / Writer / ITV TV / Espionage / 38 yr
1979 - Thundercloud Creator / Executive Producer / ITV TV WWII Navy / 38 yr
1979 - 7 July 1979 / Died? / Airplane Crash? / 38 yr
1st question.
Ian Mackintosh was / is a white hat.
2nd question.
If Ian Mackintosh were still alive he would be 81 years old, so it is certainly possible.
Below timestamped links to Episode 5 Season 2 of The Sandbaggers. Before Mackintosh disappeared in July of 1979 he had already written the scripts for Season 2 and the first three scripts for Season 3 (broadcast in the spring (S2) and summer (S3) of 1980.
This episode aired 7 months after Mackintosh disappeared. Not much of a stretch to assume his personal analysis is reflected in the dialog.
What I personally find interesting and intriguing is how this extremely prolific creator / producer / writer of Naval Operations (current and WWII), Espionage and Detective Mysteries...
and then 35000 miles away and 5 years later (1984) this insurance salesman https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Clancy writes this book https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hunt_for_Red_October about submarines, warships, aircraft carriers, naval intelligence, satellite ocean surveillance, the SOSUS (Sound Surveillance System), espionage and the defection of high ranking Russian Naval officers.
writes a fourth book, in the researching of he was hosted in Israel by its Intelligence Services and provided assistance in his research... writes this book https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sum_of_All_Fears (1991)
with the following dedication:
"For Mike and Peggy Rogers, a sailor and his lady---
and all the men and women of the U.S. Armed Forces, because
the noblest of ideas have always been protected by warriors"
It is unclear exactly when Rogers and Clancy become acquainted..
Was it before or after Roger's 1986 Naval Officer Designator changed from Surface Warfare Officer / Unrestricted Line to Special Duty Officer /Cryptology 1610 / Restricted Line.
1978 1979 1984 1986 1987 1989 1991
Anybody out there got a degree in comparative linguistics and want to take a stab at comparing Mackintosh's writing stylistics and Clancy's writing stylistics.
Just sayin...
As long as we're sitting around watching a movie... may as well write one of our own.
What about that 17 17 17 for the time (to the minute... who puts the time of an event in a wiki article down to the minute) day and year break out?
Your thoughts...
Still researching the Peggy / Dana question.
In the meantime... the movie script version is that Dana is a cover identity, Peggy is her real name, she's a deep cover S.A.S officer, child of British diplomat who spent her younger years growing up in the U.S. and then returned to the U.S. for college (no accent).
The Q plan is multi generational, multi national, and marriages between deep cover operatives of allied nations is not only common, it is encouraged.
Because Clancy is a ghost writer for Mackintosh, the representative handler for S.A.S. would be known to Clancy in true name (Peggy) and cover name, (Dana). Rogers was brought in take over as the U.S. handler (the guy who brought masterminded the Mackintosh plane crash retired), Peggy and Rogers being the gatekeepers for all things Mackintosh/Clancy.
Any number of plot devices could be used to account for the use of Peggy in the dedication in Sum of All Fears, a childhood nickname only close friends use, an inside joke between Clancy, Peggy/Dana and Rogers...etc.
Just spitballing for the movie while I go further down the rabbit hole.
Who would get the vaccine, who would die if they got it, who wouldn't be impacted if they were coerced into getting it, who would refuse to get it, who would be more outspoken against illegal activity, who would sacrifice jobs and livelihood stand up for freedom...
Lots of parameters that could be used to predict outcomes in people. Makes me think of Jacob and the Chosen from LOST
If the speech is no later than 2015 then this statement from the description of the speakers and program just below the video proper would be invalid if Cosgrove stepped down as CEO in 2017. He would still have been CEO and not described as the past CEO. Speech date has to be later that 2017:
Join Admiral Michael Rogers, Commander, U.S. Cyber Command; Director, National Security Agency/Chief, Cenpal Security Service and past Cleveland Clinic CEO and President, Toby Cosgrove, MD for this series.
Ideas for Tomorrow is an ongoing speaker series that provides a forum for the world’s most distinguished thinkers, speakers and personalities to engage in a dialogue with members of our community.
Concerning Adm Rogers statement about a "shooting in Texas two months earlier, here is a list of shooting that predate the June speech.
March 20: In Lancaster, someone fired shots from a vehicle into a crowd, killing one and injuring six.
March 26: Six days later, four men were shot by three other men near an elementary school in Amarillo.
April 24: A Killeen man allegedly went on a rampage at his apartment building, killing two and injuring three, including his girlfriend. The accused had been arrested on murder, robbery, and firearms charges in the past.
May 3: Two groups got into an argument at a Houston nightclub. Later, as one group drove away, members fired multiple rounds at the other group, standing on the sidewalk. Six were injured.
May 17: Texas’ biggest mass shooting of the year took place outside a Twin Peaks “reastaurant” in Waco, where nine people died and eighteen were wounded in a biker gang battle. You probably heard about this one; it made national headlines and was 2015’s third most deadly mass shooting nationwide.
All below was analysis that finally lead to being able to get the right search terminology to find the speech announcement in the link top of comment.
When the Toby Cosgrove is announce by an off camera speaker he is identified as "Cleveland Clinic CEO and President Toby Cosgrove."
The video written identification as "past CEO and President" is misleading since there is not annotation that the video is from 2015 and not 2021.
And none of that gets us any closer to reconciling Peggy / Dana.
Analysis of speech content argues for July 2015 date of speech:
Summer Whites - this bumps the 3 Feb 2018 date - would not be in white.
Duh...
Cannot reconcile doc with a 3 Feb 2018 ref date / reject this data point.
Makes a remark about a theoretical instance of having to consult with the A.G. and without mentioning a name says, "So, I would go to the A.G. and say 'Ma'mm, Here's the situation..." Loretta Lynch time frame - 2015
Makes a remark on coming up on 30 years in the intelligence field. Date of Designator change to 1610 was 1986 - 1986 to 2015 is 29 years.
Makes a reference to the shooting two months earlier in Texas... see link.
In the wiki article about the Waco Shootout the following, shoot out broke out at 12:27 PM CDT May 17, 2015. If this is the shooting Adm. Rogers is referring to then the speech could be in July.
On 24 June 2015 Adm Rogers has been Commander, U.S. Cyber Command and Director, National Security Agency/Chief, Central Security Service since April 2014.
14 Months.
Watch the video starting at 33: 26 when the question and answers segment of the presentation starts...
Blond woman, first questioner. Look to the right and up. Woman in light blue.
That's Gina Haspel. She becomes CIA Director 26 April 2018.
There is a whole in her bio from 7 May 2013 to 2 Feb 2017. Here's her wiki page... I can't find what she was doing between those dates... but there she is sitting in the audience for this Adm Rogers speech.
What's coming will shock the world! I don't believe has to do with Covid because people are slowly gradually awakening! Someone who's thought to be dead resurfacing and conforming the DS plans would be shocking! Research the final hours before the crash!
I really want people to return from the “dead” it has happened before. In the story Atlas Shrugged the wealthy capitalists all fake their deaths to plot together and save the country from communists. Why wouldn’t it be possible? Just because you have money, especially if you earned it yourself, you don’t have to be a bad guy. If you sell your soul To get wealth and power you’re a bad guy.
Why wouldn’t rich and powerful good people fight in secret against a threat to their way of life? Aren’t we a bunch of “regular” people (plus a couple bots and glowies) working together to inform each other and form a weapon against our enemies?
remember when they claimed they buried ObL at sea, in accordance with a sacred muslim tradition that doesn't actually exist?
How convenient that was, I can't wait for the day that they find out we aren't as dumb as they think we are.
well, its like this... the establishment has been able to create and dictate reality to everyone else, for thousands of years,
and its only since the availability of the internet that the common person is able to find "alternative" information.
i was in a room full of high school age kids, and i asked them each, in front of the entire group, if they believed that men had walked on the moon, and not one single one of them believed it.
this made me happy, and gave me hope for the future
Same. I still need to apologize to a friend I laughed at for suggesting it was faked.
Q said the moon landings were real, but I think at the very least the footage was faked. Assuming the moon landings are true, I'd say that NASA needed to have at least a plan to show footage of something for the people at home on TV because it would be rather lame for them to go all the way to the moon, only to find out that the video transmission failed. Just an idea.
The footage is real.
Consider the technology of the time. Apollo's computers were technologically equivalent to a pocket calculator. - https://www.thevintagenews.com/2017/03/27/the-computer-which-landed-apollo-11-on-the-moon-was-about-as-powerful-as-a-contemporary-pocket-calculator/
Yet some people want you to believe (((they))) can control the weather with HAARP which cost a mere $290 million to build, or "portals to hell" with CERN, chem-trails... the list goes on.
All conceived to distract you from the Real conspiracies. To make you feel like Alice, tumbling down the rabbit hole.
Misery loves company. Focus on Reality.
How do you know?
How do you know?
Armstrongs are known for faking things. One faked winning bike races by cheating and we all know what the other did.
Same, now if I could just finish waking my husband, son, daughters and son in laws
There is some science you can't refute though. Those are the sorts of things where you can see the derivations & proofs. Science is about being honest with evidence & then finding patterns from it, which hold under scrutiny.
For instance Q makes statements along these lines, Q makes statements & correlations & implies it's a little too unlikely to be just co-incidence. Not exactly science but it's more along that trend
Exactly my fren! It is the very nature of science itself that it is always refutable! Einstein's theory of relativity proved that Newtonian physics is not quite right and you know what else? Einstein's theory of relativity rests on his postulate of the equivalence principle (that inertial mass is the same as gravitational mass) From that he proved that space is effectively "curved" Right?
Now, according to particle physics, the Higgs Boson is the carrier of inertial mass and the graviton should be the carrier of gravitation. They haven't found the graviton yet but one thing they do know is that it has no link to the Higgs boson - WHICH MEANS either particle physics isn't quite right or Einstein's theory is not quite right
and this is physics, the field of medicine is much more uncertain. There is NEVER a certain known undisputable truth. I often cite Galileo to the lame brained idiots that think the community of scientists know certain truth
Humans are gullible retards. They prolong this deep state nightmare for the rest of us.
white hats made the internet?
It doesn't matter how dumb you are, it matters how dumb everyone is.
While I definitely agree that whole situation was extremely sketchy, The thing I can't reconcile is this;
What about the wonderful, patriotic, amazing men who were on the teams that allegedly killed him?
BOTH SEALs AND SOAR / Special aviation elements; so many involved.
Rob O'Neill is anything but shy and quiet, and on many occasions, he has clearly stated "I know who I shot."
So did the SEAL teams kill and grab the body of a double; were they all told / forced to go along with faking bin laden's death, or what?
How do you explain that?
I suspect the entire scene was scripted by hollywood.
First ObL acted like the typical cartoonish muslim terrorist, and used his wife as a human shield,
Then later they corrected the story, and said ObL did NOT use his wife as a human shield
Of course, many of us had suspected that ObL might not ever have existed, and was just a CIA cartoon cutout of a muslim terrorist.
The Bin Laden clan just happened to be long time family friends with the Bush family, supposedly a friendship build on oil, even though GHWB was probably always a CIA agent with a “Texas oil man” cover-story
“Oil man” GHWB called the FBI just before JFK was allegedly shot.
ObL codename Tim Osman
CNN found ObL in a cave, and got him to confess to 9/11 on video
ObL had been reported dead several times, even by Pakistani PM Benazir Bhutto
Interesting.... 'Tis a rabbit hole I need to go down, for sure...
100% whole thing was faked. Check out Miles Mathis blog for details. The JFK one would be the place to start
http://mileswmathis.com/jfkgay.pdf
Marilyn Monroe doesn't think he's gay. I'll tell you that much.
She was a beard.
nevermind; I figured it out. It is a legit site.
My browser is being a little over-sensitive, which is great in today's world.
What else can you tell me about this MILES WILLIAMS MATHIS guy?
Thanks for the link!
My browser is not letting me download your PDF; I went to the main site you linked to & it looks very weird.....
Is this legit or WTF?
It's legit http://mileswmathis.com/updates.html
Go to the blog linked above and search in page for JFK. I posted the direct link to the pdf no idea why it didn't work.
The pdfs are harder to memory hole cause they can be printed.
Yeah, I did some browsing around & see it is a legit site.
Like I said; my browser was just being weirdly over-protective....
Argh......
But I want to know where is his dialysis machine never saw one picture of it just porn tapes that he was supposedly watching
I like O’Neill but cannot for the life of me fathom the Pentagon approving his public life. I think they let him go on as long as he doesn’t divulge they killed a double. UBL died in Iran years prior. TBTB needed the UBL persona to carry on in order to carry out their ops.
Extortion 17 was supposed to be a clean up operation and it appeared successful until rumors of a survivor started to appear.
I pray this is true and they are avenged.
My husband said this in the beginning. He says, seals don't talk about their missions like Rob did. It does seem odd and it's most likely they approved him to be sort of a spokesperson for the whole obl snafu.
I’d agree. I don’t think he’s a bad guy. I just hope he watches his six.
In a month I’ll be fully outta DC forever! I can’t tell you how good this feels.
Sweeet. Leaving Maryland was like a nightmare had ended for me 👍🏽
Escaping Northern Virginiastan
Can I ask…where Ya headed?
Congratulations!
They’re dead. They took down 3 Chinooks a week or two after the operation, killing about 27 SEALs. Initial media reports said that 9/10 dead were on the OBL op. By the time of congressional hearings the story changed… now its memory holed.
This was a huge affront to the Muslim community - the belief that being buried at see allows for the soul to be thrashed and thrown about for an endless eternity… proper Muslim burial requires the person to be facing Mecca and buried in the ground. OBL is alive and well living w/ his family on a west Texas ranch - tax payer funded of course ,…
Fish filet.
They did the same thing to Kobes crash videos.
Wow serious??
I hadn't heard!
Doesn't that figure? What could they be hiding? Was it the Navy that allegedly rescued him?
I assume it would mean he was in dirty shit.
Isn't that what Q told us how this will work?
Celebrities / politicians who are dirty & compromised; whether bribery or pedophilia; will be given the chance to "commit suicide" and have a respectable out; to not have their entire life and legacy burnt to the ground by revealing their degeneracy.
So if anyone is trying to keep anything about kobe hush-hush.... the most logical conclusion for me is.......he was into nasty, satanic shit......
Again; purely my speculation, but isn't that what Q has told us??
What I find interesting is that this is from the Sydney Morning Herald.
Aussie press....
Good eye...
Very good eye.
Q said "The Start" was Hillarys election which she obviously won against Jr. I hope he is alive, the first put into protection for what would play out over the next few decades. Yeah I know Q says Jr isn't, but do we honestly expect a different answer to that question? Why would Q have even addressed that question out of tons asked in the ama? It obviously served a purpose in the psyop. Who knows, just my .02
Those numbers are way off, sir.
Let’s say he is alive: to answer your question on how he would survive hit squads over the years… in that instance only, I would ask what does he have on them… this only matters IF he is alive. He is an elite biggie. Keeping his secret would behoove them because of the insane amount of supporters filled with love for JFKjr. It would be absolute suicide for them to hurt/kill him or to spill his secret (IF he lives). I think if he is alive, he has it all on them. Something that Q posted has bothered me from them dropping the post: ~Wait until you see who’s been talking to you here…~. It nags at me since very few people have the love and respect unmet by so many intelligent autists and pedes… JFKjr has earned such acknowledgment. I guess we’ll have to wait patiently and see “who” indeed has been talking to us on the Q board. WWG1WGA NCSWIC
Um, most people in their 40's make it to 60. Not everyone. No but most. Not very hard math
Permanent residence at Trump Tower?
Wouldn't it be the greatest if he was still alive, had all the dirt on the scumbags that took out his dad and he ran for 2024? 😃
If i had to speculate, he runs as VP under Trump. Trump serves 2 years of the term, then steps down as he has said "i only want to run the country ling enough till someone better steps up." Jr is president for 10 years.
I personally have a 50 dollar bet with my dad (far right, but normie) that Jr will be running for president in 2032.
Deja vu?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Mackintosh
https://medium.com/the-true-crime-edition/an-unfortunate-accident-or-a-daring-escape-4c7d4f01b72f
https://check-six.com/lib/Famous_Missing/Mackintosh.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sandbaggers
If anyone could have contributed to writing [planning] the movie we are all watching...
It was Ian Mackintosh.
https://patriots.win/p/3s6b3nL/covfefe/
You believe mackintosh is a white hat and still alive?
1940 - 26 July 1940 / Ian Mackintosh / Born
1958 - 1962 Britannia Royal Naval College (18 - 22 yr.)
1962 - 1976 Royal Navy (22 to 36 years old)
1973 - 1977 The Warship / Co-creator / Writer BBC TV-Drama / Navy / 33 yr
1976 - A Slaying in September / Novel / 36 yr
1978 - Alliance Creator / Writer ITV TV Detective-Mystery Series / 38 yr
1978 / 1980 The Sandbaggers Creator / Writer / ITV TV / Espionage / 38 yr
1979 - Thundercloud Creator / Executive Producer / ITV TV WWII Navy / 38 yr
1979 - 7 July 1979 / Died? / Airplane Crash? / 38 yr
1st question.
Ian Mackintosh was / is a white hat.
2nd question.
If Ian Mackintosh were still alive he would be 81 years old, so it is certainly possible.
Below timestamped links to Episode 5 Season 2 of The Sandbaggers. Before Mackintosh disappeared in July of 1979 he had already written the scripts for Season 2 and the first three scripts for Season 3 (broadcast in the spring (S2) and summer (S3) of 1980.
This episode aired 7 months after Mackintosh disappeared. Not much of a stretch to assume his personal analysis is reflected in the dialog.
It Couldn't Happen Here / 25 February 1980
https://youtu.be/tV7QMAE8FgY?t=43 (timestamp / start 00:43 to 04:24)
https://youtu.be/tV7QMAE8FgY?t=675 (timestamp / start 11:14 to 13:02)
What I personally find interesting and intriguing is how this extremely prolific creator / producer / writer of Naval Operations (current and WWII), Espionage and Detective Mysteries...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Mackintosh disappears off the face of the earth in the summer of 1979
and then 35000 miles away and 5 years later (1984) this insurance salesman
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Clancy writes this book
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hunt_for_Red_October about submarines, warships, aircraft carriers, naval intelligence, satellite ocean surveillance, the SOSUS (Sound Surveillance System), espionage and the defection of high ranking Russian Naval officers.
Insurance salesman - Blockbuster Navy, Espionage, Spy, Action Thriller
Insurance salesman - Blockbuster Navy, Espionage, Spy, Action Thriller
Insurance salesman - Blockbuster Navy, Espionage, Spy, Action Thriller
One more time...
Insurance salesman - Blockbuster Navy, Espionage, Spy, Action Thriller
Then, in 1991, this guy, after writing two more books...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_Games (1987) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clear_and_Present_Danger (1989)
writes a fourth book, in the researching of he was hosted in Israel by its Intelligence Services and provided assistance in his research... writes this book
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sum_of_All_Fears (1991)
with the following dedication:
"For Mike and Peggy Rogers, a sailor and his lady--- and all the men and women of the U.S. Armed Forces, because the noblest of ideas have always been protected by warriors"
Now that Mike Rogers is this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_S._Rogers
It is unclear exactly when Rogers and Clancy become acquainted..
Was it before or after Roger's 1986 Naval Officer Designator changed from Surface Warfare Officer / Unrestricted Line to Special Duty Officer /Cryptology 1610 / Restricted Line.
1978 1979 1984 1986 1987 1989 1991
Anybody out there got a degree in comparative linguistics and want to take a stab at comparing Mackintosh's writing stylistics and Clancy's writing stylistics.
Just sayin...
As long as we're sitting around watching a movie... may as well write one of our own.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7gc7oHPfs0
Additional research links:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warship_(1973 BBC TV Series)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sandbaggers (1979 / 1980 ITV TV Series)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilde_Alliance (1978 ITV TV Series)
https://www.memorabletv.com/tv/thundercloud-itv-1979-derek-waring-sarah-douglas/ (1979 ITV TV Series)
https://irp.fas.org/program/collect/sosus.htm
What about that 17 17 17 for the time (to the minute... who puts the time of an event in a wiki article down to the minute) day and year break out?
Your thoughts...
Still researching the Peggy / Dana question.
In the meantime... the movie script version is that Dana is a cover identity, Peggy is her real name, she's a deep cover S.A.S officer, child of British diplomat who spent her younger years growing up in the U.S. and then returned to the U.S. for college (no accent).
The Q plan is multi generational, multi national, and marriages between deep cover operatives of allied nations is not only common, it is encouraged.
Because Clancy is a ghost writer for Mackintosh, the representative handler for S.A.S. would be known to Clancy in true name (Peggy) and cover name, (Dana). Rogers was brought in take over as the U.S. handler (the guy who brought masterminded the Mackintosh plane crash retired), Peggy and Rogers being the gatekeepers for all things Mackintosh/Clancy.
Any number of plot devices could be used to account for the use of Peggy in the dedication in Sum of All Fears, a childhood nickname only close friends use, an inside joke between Clancy, Peggy/Dana and Rogers...etc.
Just spitballing for the movie while I go further down the rabbit hole.
From above comment:
The Q plan is multi generational, multi national, and marriages between deep cover operatives of allied nations is not only common, it is encouraged.
Peggy / Dana British
Rogers American
Read 'moar' carefully before guessing, i.e. ass u me ing.
02 December 2021 theconservativetreehouse
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/12/02/cleveland-clinic-healthcare-system-suspends-vaccine-mandate/
I've been digging.
You?
Coincidence?
These kind of things are just spooky, eh?
Who would get the vaccine, who would die if they got it, who wouldn't be impacted if they were coerced into getting it, who would refuse to get it, who would be more outspoken against illegal activity, who would sacrifice jobs and livelihood stand up for freedom...
Lots of parameters that could be used to predict outcomes in people. Makes me think of Jacob and the Chosen from LOST
Check your fire! Check your fire!
Considering who Adm Rogers (Ret) is and his professional history, good luck confirming any personal data on the internet.
For example:
https://www.geni.com/people/Adm-Michael-Rogers/6000000050054406326
Post your source, looks like you may have info on a Representative Mike Rogers.
If the speech is no later than 2015 then this statement from the description of the speakers and program just below the video proper would be invalid if Cosgrove stepped down as CEO in 2017. He would still have been CEO and not described as the past CEO. Speech date has to be later that 2017:
Join Admiral Michael Rogers, Commander, U.S. Cyber Command; Director, National Security Agency/Chief, Cenpal Security Service and past Cleveland Clinic CEO and President, Toby Cosgrove, MD for this series.
Ideas for Tomorrow is an ongoing speaker series that provides a forum for the world’s most distinguished thinkers, speakers and personalities to engage in a dialogue with members of our community.
Repost link to source with 3 February 2018 date.
https://inclueded2424.blogspot.com/2019/12/healthcare-informatics-ideas-for_92.html
Still researching... finding conflicting data date of speech.
Oddly challenging.
Snark aside, trying to reconcile Dana / Peggy matter as well.
Found it...
Cleveland Clinic Presents: Ideas for Tomorrow
June 24, 2015 @ 5:00 pm - 7:00 pm
Cleveland Clinic invites you to attend this free event featuring
Admiral Michael Rogers Commander, U.S. Cyber Command and Director, National Security Agency/Chief, Central Security Service
https://www.ccwa.org/events/cleveland-clinic-presents-ideas-for-tomorrow/
Concerning Adm Rogers statement about a "shooting in Texas two months earlier, here is a list of shooting that predate the June speech.
March 20: In Lancaster, someone fired shots from a vehicle into a crowd, killing one and injuring six.
March 26: Six days later, four men were shot by three other men near an elementary school in Amarillo.
April 24: A Killeen man allegedly went on a rampage at his apartment building, killing two and injuring three, including his girlfriend. The accused had been arrested on murder, robbery, and firearms charges in the past.
May 3: Two groups got into an argument at a Houston nightclub. Later, as one group drove away, members fired multiple rounds at the other group, standing on the sidewalk. Six were injured.
May 17: Texas’ biggest mass shooting of the year took place outside a Twin Peaks “reastaurant” in Waco, where nine people died and eighteen were wounded in a biker gang battle. You probably heard about this one; it made national headlines and was 2015’s third most deadly mass shooting nationwide.
https://www.texasobserver.org/mass-shooting-2015-texas/
All below was analysis that finally lead to being able to get the right search terminology to find the speech announcement in the link top of comment.
When the Toby Cosgrove is announce by an off camera speaker he is identified as "Cleveland Clinic CEO and President Toby Cosgrove."
The video written identification as "past CEO and President" is misleading since there is not annotation that the video is from 2015 and not 2021.
And none of that gets us any closer to reconciling Peggy / Dana.
Analysis of speech content argues for July 2015 date of speech:
Summer Whites - this bumps the 3 Feb 2018 date - would not be in white.
Duh...
Cannot reconcile doc with a 3 Feb 2018 ref date / reject this data point.
Makes a remark about a theoretical instance of having to consult with the A.G. and without mentioning a name says, "So, I would go to the A.G. and say 'Ma'mm, Here's the situation..." Loretta Lynch time frame - 2015
Makes a remark on coming up on 30 years in the intelligence field. Date of Designator change to 1610 was 1986 - 1986 to 2015 is 29 years.
Makes a reference to the shooting two months earlier in Texas... see link.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Waco_shootout
In the wiki article about the Waco Shootout the following, shoot out broke out at 12:27 PM CDT May 17, 2015. If this is the shooting Adm. Rogers is referring to then the speech could be in July.
Seen this kind of stuff before
12:27 May 17, 2015
12:27 05 17, 2015
1+2+2+7+5 = 17
17
2+0+15=17
17 17 17
That and that view count on the video ...
What have you stumbled on?
Watch the video.
On 24 June 2015 Adm Rogers has been Commander, U.S. Cyber Command and Director, National Security Agency/Chief, Central Security Service since April 2014.
14 Months.
Watch the video starting at 33: 26 when the question and answers segment of the presentation starts...
https://youtu.be/MpgnRnHyV84?t=2006 (timestamp / pause to freeze frame)
https://youtu.be/MpgnRnHyV84?t=2802 (timestamp / pause to freeze frame)
Blond woman, first questioner. Look to the right and up. Woman in light blue.
That's Gina Haspel. She becomes CIA Director 26 April 2018.
There is a whole in her bio from 7 May 2013 to 2 Feb 2017. Here's her wiki page... I can't find what she was doing between those dates... but there she is sitting in the audience for this Adm Rogers speech.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gina_Haspel
This may be the same jacket...
https://www.ibtimes.com/sites/www.ibtimes.com/files/styles/embed/public/2018/03/15/gina-haspel.jpg
Compare the shape of the glasses in the video and in the photos below.
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Gina+Haspel+image&t=opera&iax=images&ia=images
Why is Adm. Rogers addressing this audience?
What am I not understanding?
Why has this video only just been uploaded on 26 March 2021.
View count finally started to move off 6,666 views. That was freaky.
Too many rabbit holes, not enough time.
Gonna try and dig on this Cleveland Council for World Affairs and see what shakes out.
https://www.ccwa.org/events/cleveland-clinic-presents-ideas-for-tomorrow/
Tossing this off to you for now, v8power.
What's coming will shock the world! I don't believe has to do with Covid because people are slowly gradually awakening! Someone who's thought to be dead resurfacing and conforming the DS plans would be shocking! Research the final hours before the crash!
I really want people to return from the “dead” it has happened before. In the story Atlas Shrugged the wealthy capitalists all fake their deaths to plot together and save the country from communists. Why wouldn’t it be possible? Just because you have money, especially if you earned it yourself, you don’t have to be a bad guy. If you sell your soul To get wealth and power you’re a bad guy.
Why wouldn’t rich and powerful good people fight in secret against a threat to their way of life? Aren’t we a bunch of “regular” people (plus a couple bots and glowies) working together to inform each other and form a weapon against our enemies?
Interesting that the article refers to John jnr, Mr. Kennedy and Mr. John F. Kennedy jnr, but never "JFK Jr."
Yes, but not JFK Jr.... jnr... perhaps just a stylistic issue
Next time you just happen to bump into a Kennedy ask them if the family really requested that, lol