When you are in a totally hostile environment, you need to play along. You can't save your kids by being a martyr so the hostiles remove you from the scene. You tried to tell them, now for your kids and your own integrity you need to stop arguing and remove yourself, let them forget you for now. Good luck.
This ^^^ I have one leg over the fence and one leg on the fence and I catch a lot of crap, but the one foot on the fence keep them from doing "that" to me. Instead of statements I only ask questions, which probably sends them into meltdown mode when they leave.
More importantly I am told to cuck it of I may lose custody of my children. I can simply tell them "Thank you for that opinion. I now have much to consider."
As long as I don't stir the pot too much, my children are safe in my decisions.
Well don't stay away too long. This is the only place you'll find a refreshing dose of sanity when you need it.
In a couple of years when everything you've told your friends/family proves to be true, don't accept their apologies right away. If you do that, they'll make excuses for their mistreatment of you. Instead, refuse their calls and emails for a few months or a year. Make them grovel. It's the only way to keep them honest.
The truth is, those kind of people don't apologize. They will be the ones that say things like "I knew it all along, I tried to tell people". You are right in that he should not accept their calls or apologies. He needs to do whatever he can to protect his kids though. I thank God I was able to get through to my kids (mostly) and they see what is up. They aren't that young anymore though.
Sorry to hear your struggles, fren. All of us have been vilified by friends or family through difference of opinion over the years. A line is drawn when fighting for our children!
For what it is worth, over the years I have learned that going head to head with NPCs to have them see your point of view is pointless - just bang your head on a brick wall and you'll know the experience.
Far better to ask questions, organized in such a way to let them see one fallacy, one illogical connection, in their thinking. Let them come to the light.
You, my Fren, are at the precipice. Stay strong, but also find ways to compromise so that you are not broken in the end. Perhaps not every battle is worth fighting in the moment. Hang in there. Your path is what many will face soon enough.
You can still love them, and pity them at the same time. Hopefully a day comes soon when the veil will be lifted for these many blind followers. I am unable to hide my disgust when they talk about vaccines and orange man bad now. I used to just stay quiet and not react because I am mostly non confrontational. Wellllll, that’s changed!
Sometimes, you may have to drop simplified or more reasonable-sounding redpills to win them over. Even though we have evidence, etc., these concepts are very difficult to understand and some will need time to come to terms with them.
Think about the way Trump speaks publicly. Despite being at the head of all of this, most of his televised appearances feature him speaking in easy-to-comprehend terms like "corrupt", etc. He doesn't jump straight to the most complex, because he knows he has to win people over and let them uncover more slowly and over time.
Most importantly, remain calm. Try to explain when they're ready rather than argue. Although it can be frustrating, showing that frustration is what may lead people to believe you've been 'brainwashed by the internet', etc., none of which are correct. Try to put yourself in the other person's shoes and think of ways to explain things that they might understand- WHEN THEY'RE READY. Drop subtle redpills about corruption in general when talking about other topics. Don't drop anything they've heard or associated with Q. Perhaps only focus on the topics that are of immediate concern, such as the following:
I know that there is some urgency in protecting your kids from the vaccine mandate. Here are a few things you may want to try:
Point out that Pfizer wanted to keep these documents sealed until 2076, before being court-ordered by a judge to release them.
Point out that children have a virtually 0% chance of dying from this so-called disease.
Point out that this is something new and experimental, and mandates are beginning to be overturned by courts across the country, etc. because people do not like the direction this is going in.
Show love and kindness, and request the same.
And finally, friend, have faith in and pray to the lord Jesus Christ, who gave his life so that we may have it everlasting.
This only works on reasonable people who will even bother to listen. We're at a point in the game now, where people are NOT going to listen, AT ALL. Everyone who is going to wake up, is pretty much awake now. There may be a few more stragglers, but the majority is awake. The only thing that will move it forward now is the mass arrests and executions of those who control it all... so I guess we sit here and continue to wait and hope like fuck it's not all a big lie.
I don't think it's a lie. What I mean in this post is to have conversations about other things and slowly open their eyes. Most people can agree that general things like govt. corruption, etc exists. Since this Great Awakening is so multi-faceted, maybe there's topics that they ask you about in certain areas of your expertise, and you can maybe tie in some examples of corruption.
Never EVER speak to a psychiatrist and never EVER speak to your blue pilled friends about topics they won’t understand. Always stay in their “sphere of acceptable opinion” and “push up against” the edges.
You have to move the Overton window gradually.
Don’t hit them with the craziest shit first or even at all until they’re closer to the truth.
Also, one friend at a time. Blue pilled faggots are all such drama queen fucking psychos!
Don’t trust them to have your best interests in mind.
It’s okay to step back when you need to care for your family first. You are already aware it can come to your city/town and home. So just worry about putting your family back together for now and ground yourself in the quiet of just day to day, with out media. We can hold your torch. That’s what family does. God bless you and your family Anon. WWG1WGA.
In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot.
Fren, It's good your children are not yet eligible for the vax. Fauci is working on that. He wants everyone eligible and eventually he wants everyone force vaxxed. I do not believe it will go so far as force jabs. How would God protect his people if everyone on the planet were force vaxxed? If Christ does not come soon, then it means God will use some other means to stop the jabbing. Everyone in my family is calling me a conspiracy theorist, by which they mean they think I am out of touch with reality. I don't even talk much about it! Just here and there. I have learned not to care (much). Christ said there would be divisions between family members and that the "world" would hate us. Shake the dust off your feet and look forward to the prize, which is eternal life with Christ. I think the others are under mass mind control about Covid, variants and poison jabs, which they believe are "good" for them. Focus on doing what you need to do to protect your little ones. Make a plan or two about changing your circumstances if possible. Go to safety. I will pray for you.
Hey, I lost my entire family including my wife and daughters. I lost my home and job because of the jab. I still wouldn’t change a single thing. You are in the fight. It might seem difficult but you have to keep going. Keep spreading the word
I’ve heard similar stories from many especially if you have good health insurance. It’s very common in certain states with a corrupt mental health system such as Georgia. You are not alone. Wear it like a badge of honor.
NCSWIC
Oh how could I forget that one. The Florida Baker Act is a travesty of justice especially for children. Teachers in that state are allowed to call police to remove combative children without the parents consent. Many of the children have autism, seizures or other physiological conditions and end up Baker Acted
If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you;
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too:
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or, being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise;
If you can dream - and not make dreams your master;
If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim,
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same:.
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build'em up with worn-out tools;
If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings,
And never breathe a word about your loss:
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: "Hold on!"
If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much:
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son!
If this is true then God bless you and God help you and your family. Replace your smart phone with a Bible and turn on your local Christian radio station. All will be well.
If this is just another shill tactic to frighten us- try again. Either way God bless you and keep you fren.
They think I have been brainwashed by the internet>
You found the Truth on the Internet, and their belief system comes-from? Tell-a-vision. Gotta laugh. Well good luck Patriot, but don’t “get rid of your smartphone”…the movie’s climax is ON TOP OF US!!!
Where your path leads you fren we are always here and WWG1WGA 🙏❤️ Never give up the faith that God Wins ! Many have been in this decades to experience pain sadness depression fight disbelief excitement on and on many emotions ..know that we are always in the place and time we are meant to be in and you are loved always (;
DAMN. I do realize that there are crazy struggles and go through quite a few myself, but sometimes I forget just how badly others are treated for seeing the truth as it is! I take it for granted sometimes that what I say will land me in a mental institute...I am so sorry and will make sure I pray for you, your kids and I'll pray for Jesus to lift the veil off of your family's eyes. NY is one of the craziest places right now and that makes me sad. My hometown of Boston is pretty bad too. Maybe talk about moving you two and the kids to Florida and get away from the rest of your blue family. Move your immediate family to a place where people aren't even really talking about Covid, you know?
For anyone who might ever face a situation where they are pressured or forced to have a "psyche eval" --
If necessary, meet with the psychologist.
The moment they ask the first question, you reply, "I cannot be forced to be a witness against myself, as that would violate my rights, secured by the Constitution. I stand on my 5th Amendment rights, and I have nothing further to say to you. Goodbye."
Get up, and walk away.
They cannot use your statement against you, or claim that you refused a legal obligation, since you have no legal obligation to talk to anyone for any reason.
Good luck, OP. When appropriate, you can show factual evidence to back up your opinons, and then ask the other side to provide factual evidence to back up theirs. They won't. They will refuse. Then, you point out that YOU are not the one refusing to have a discussion, THEY are. Over time, it is the only way to get through.
Let me hug you. They are thugs to your inner soul these so called medical care professionals. Soon thuggery will be gone. Stay strong inside. You are brave, that is your only crime.
Sounds like you brought this on yourself. I’m shocked that Q folks don’t realize how crazy it sounds to normies. I have a great relationship with my family because I don’t bring this stuff up. I pray something happens and I hope for it.. I don’t speak on it (except to my girlfriend)and I have a great time. Vote Trump 2024.
When you are in a totally hostile environment, you need to play along. You can't save your kids by being a martyr so the hostiles remove you from the scene. You tried to tell them, now for your kids and your own integrity you need to stop arguing and remove yourself, let them forget you for now. Good luck.
This ^^^ I have one leg over the fence and one leg on the fence and I catch a lot of crap, but the one foot on the fence keep them from doing "that" to me. Instead of statements I only ask questions, which probably sends them into meltdown mode when they leave.
THIS ^^^^
Play along. You ARE SANE. Now you have to convince the insane people around you that you are a normie.
Do whatever it takes (besides take the jab) to do so and keep your kids.
Yup! All of the above!
Hiding in plain sight...
Play along? Have fun dying. Fight with every fiber.
Exactly, THIS.
He will never reappear. He's gone in the most fundamental way.
He gave up his FINAL right.
You're dumb. Mental Hospital is on his permanent record... no different than if he had gone the fuck off and stood up for his rights.
We'll never see him again.
More importantly I am told to cuck it of I may lose custody of my children. I can simply tell them "Thank you for that opinion. I now have much to consider."
As long as I don't stir the pot too much, my children are safe in my decisions.
Well don't stay away too long. This is the only place you'll find a refreshing dose of sanity when you need it.
In a couple of years when everything you've told your friends/family proves to be true, don't accept their apologies right away. If you do that, they'll make excuses for their mistreatment of you. Instead, refuse their calls and emails for a few months or a year. Make them grovel. It's the only way to keep them honest.
The truth is, those kind of people don't apologize. They will be the ones that say things like "I knew it all along, I tried to tell people". You are right in that he should not accept their calls or apologies. He needs to do whatever he can to protect his kids though. I thank God I was able to get through to my kids (mostly) and they see what is up. They aren't that young anymore though.
You are needed here fighting on the front lines. Come back ASAP. Remember, you are not delusional. You are extremely clear minded. Come back fren
“In the land of the blind the one eyed man is king. In the darkness the man with a candle is an easy target.”
― Michael Grant
Sorry to hear your struggles, fren. All of us have been vilified by friends or family through difference of opinion over the years. A line is drawn when fighting for our children!
For what it is worth, over the years I have learned that going head to head with NPCs to have them see your point of view is pointless - just bang your head on a brick wall and you'll know the experience.
Far better to ask questions, organized in such a way to let them see one fallacy, one illogical connection, in their thinking. Let them come to the light.
God bless you and your family. We'll be here if you miss us 🇺🇸 ❤
You, my Fren, are at the precipice. Stay strong, but also find ways to compromise so that you are not broken in the end. Perhaps not every battle is worth fighting in the moment. Hang in there. Your path is what many will face soon enough.
MASS FORMATION PSYCHOSIS! They attack us free thinkers, because they are afraid of us. It’s pathetic and I’ve lost respect for many people in my life.
You can still love them, and pity them at the same time. Hopefully a day comes soon when the veil will be lifted for these many blind followers. I am unable to hide my disgust when they talk about vaccines and orange man bad now. I used to just stay quiet and not react because I am mostly non confrontational. Wellllll, that’s changed!
Same. Better to be confrontational and spread the truth than be quiet. Even if it means losing everything you have. The truth is more important
You seem like a shill
yeah his handle screams shill
The username, the handshake, and his comment history scream shill
Good eye.
Sometimes, you may have to drop simplified or more reasonable-sounding redpills to win them over. Even though we have evidence, etc., these concepts are very difficult to understand and some will need time to come to terms with them.
Think about the way Trump speaks publicly. Despite being at the head of all of this, most of his televised appearances feature him speaking in easy-to-comprehend terms like "corrupt", etc. He doesn't jump straight to the most complex, because he knows he has to win people over and let them uncover more slowly and over time.
Most importantly, remain calm. Try to explain when they're ready rather than argue. Although it can be frustrating, showing that frustration is what may lead people to believe you've been 'brainwashed by the internet', etc., none of which are correct. Try to put yourself in the other person's shoes and think of ways to explain things that they might understand- WHEN THEY'RE READY. Drop subtle redpills about corruption in general when talking about other topics. Don't drop anything they've heard or associated with Q. Perhaps only focus on the topics that are of immediate concern, such as the following:
I know that there is some urgency in protecting your kids from the vaccine mandate. Here are a few things you may want to try:
Show them the recently released documents from Pfizer themselves on adverse reactions: https://phmpt.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/5.3.6-postmarketing-experience.pdf
Point out that Pfizer wanted to keep these documents sealed until 2076, before being court-ordered by a judge to release them.
Point out that children have a virtually 0% chance of dying from this so-called disease.
Point out that this is something new and experimental, and mandates are beginning to be overturned by courts across the country, etc. because people do not like the direction this is going in.
Show love and kindness, and request the same.
And finally, friend, have faith in and pray to the lord Jesus Christ, who gave his life so that we may have it everlasting.
This only works on reasonable people who will even bother to listen. We're at a point in the game now, where people are NOT going to listen, AT ALL. Everyone who is going to wake up, is pretty much awake now. There may be a few more stragglers, but the majority is awake. The only thing that will move it forward now is the mass arrests and executions of those who control it all... so I guess we sit here and continue to wait and hope like fuck it's not all a big lie.
I don't think it's a lie. What I mean in this post is to have conversations about other things and slowly open their eyes. Most people can agree that general things like govt. corruption, etc exists. Since this Great Awakening is so multi-faceted, maybe there's topics that they ask you about in certain areas of your expertise, and you can maybe tie in some examples of corruption.
Never EVER speak to a psychiatrist and never EVER speak to your blue pilled friends about topics they won’t understand. Always stay in their “sphere of acceptable opinion” and “push up against” the edges.
You have to move the Overton window gradually.
Don’t hit them with the craziest shit first or even at all until they’re closer to the truth.
Also, one friend at a time. Blue pilled faggots are all such drama queen fucking psychos!
Don’t trust them to have your best interests in mind.
Correct. Strategy over idealism.
God bless. :)
It’s okay to step back when you need to care for your family first. You are already aware it can come to your city/town and home. So just worry about putting your family back together for now and ground yourself in the quiet of just day to day, with out media. We can hold your torch. That’s what family does. God bless you and your family Anon. WWG1WGA.
Exactly this. I will only do more now, to help pick up the slack.
In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot.
Well quoted Anon! Well quoted.
So they called your bluff and you pussied out and let them escort you away. Lame.
Fren, It's good your children are not yet eligible for the vax. Fauci is working on that. He wants everyone eligible and eventually he wants everyone force vaxxed. I do not believe it will go so far as force jabs. How would God protect his people if everyone on the planet were force vaxxed? If Christ does not come soon, then it means God will use some other means to stop the jabbing. Everyone in my family is calling me a conspiracy theorist, by which they mean they think I am out of touch with reality. I don't even talk much about it! Just here and there. I have learned not to care (much). Christ said there would be divisions between family members and that the "world" would hate us. Shake the dust off your feet and look forward to the prize, which is eternal life with Christ. I think the others are under mass mind control about Covid, variants and poison jabs, which they believe are "good" for them. Focus on doing what you need to do to protect your little ones. Make a plan or two about changing your circumstances if possible. Go to safety. I will pray for you.
Seriously. It’s like complaining about getting on the train to the concentration camp.
You knew it was dangerous and stupid but did it anyway?
Makes it hard for me to find any sympathy.
Hey, I lost my entire family including my wife and daughters. I lost my home and job because of the jab. I still wouldn’t change a single thing. You are in the fight. It might seem difficult but you have to keep going. Keep spreading the word
Gods speed fern
Godspeed my friend...stay strong.
I’ve heard similar stories from many especially if you have good health insurance. It’s very common in certain states with a corrupt mental health system such as Georgia. You are not alone. Wear it like a badge of honor. NCSWIC
Arizona too. When this shit show is past its peak the mental health system must be addressed.
Also Florida - Baker Act. Someday they will get it in every jurisdiction if they do not already have it.
Oh how could I forget that one. The Florida Baker Act is a travesty of justice especially for children. Teachers in that state are allowed to call police to remove combative children without the parents consent. Many of the children have autism, seizures or other physiological conditions and end up Baker Acted
Wow, that’s awful!!
Remember that things always work out at the end. If things aren't working out... you aren't at the end yet.
When you arrive, your duped family will realize the truth. So no worries mate.
"If" by Rudyard Kipling
If you can keep your head when all about you Are losing theirs and blaming it on you; If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you, But make allowance for their doubting too: If you can wait and not be tired by waiting, Or, being lied about, don't deal in lies, Or being hated don't give way to hating, And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise;
If you can dream - and not make dreams your master; If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim, If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster And treat those two impostors just the same:. If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools, Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken, And stoop and build'em up with worn-out tools;
If you can make one heap of all your winnings And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss, And lose, and start again at your beginnings, And never breathe a word about your loss: If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew To serve your turn long after they are gone, And so hold on when there is nothing in you Except the Will which says to them: "Hold on!"
If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue, Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch, If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you, If all men count with you, but none too much: If you can fill the unforgiving minute With sixty seconds' worth of distance run, Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it, And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son!
I absolutely love this advice! It encompasses ego, patience, and communication.
where is the wife? they don't see eye to eye on this shit?
If this is true then God bless you and God help you and your family. Replace your smart phone with a Bible and turn on your local Christian radio station. All will be well.
If this is just another shill tactic to frighten us- try again. Either way God bless you and keep you fren.
You found the Truth on the Internet, and their belief system comes-from? Tell-a-vision. Gotta laugh. Well good luck Patriot, but don’t “get rid of your smartphone”…the movie’s climax is ON TOP OF US!!!
Godspeed and God bless you. I pray your children are healthy and safe and find a path to God themselves.
Time to move to FL.
Where your path leads you fren we are always here and WWG1WGA 🙏❤️ Never give up the faith that God Wins ! Many have been in this decades to experience pain sadness depression fight disbelief excitement on and on many emotions ..know that we are always in the place and time we are meant to be in and you are loved always (;
DAMN. I do realize that there are crazy struggles and go through quite a few myself, but sometimes I forget just how badly others are treated for seeing the truth as it is! I take it for granted sometimes that what I say will land me in a mental institute...I am so sorry and will make sure I pray for you, your kids and I'll pray for Jesus to lift the veil off of your family's eyes. NY is one of the craziest places right now and that makes me sad. My hometown of Boston is pretty bad too. Maybe talk about moving you two and the kids to Florida and get away from the rest of your blue family. Move your immediate family to a place where people aren't even really talking about Covid, you know?
For anyone who might ever face a situation where they are pressured or forced to have a "psyche eval" --
If necessary, meet with the psychologist.
The moment they ask the first question, you reply, "I cannot be forced to be a witness against myself, as that would violate my rights, secured by the Constitution. I stand on my 5th Amendment rights, and I have nothing further to say to you. Goodbye."
Get up, and walk away.
They cannot use your statement against you, or claim that you refused a legal obligation, since you have no legal obligation to talk to anyone for any reason.
Good luck, OP. When appropriate, you can show factual evidence to back up your opinons, and then ask the other side to provide factual evidence to back up theirs. They won't. They will refuse. Then, you point out that YOU are not the one refusing to have a discussion, THEY are. Over time, it is the only way to get through.
My gosh I pray that you and your family can reconcile, God bless friend.
Let me hug you. They are thugs to your inner soul these so called medical care professionals. Soon thuggery will be gone. Stay strong inside. You are brave, that is your only crime.
I wish you the best and I hope and pray that everything works out for you and your children. You will be missed fren.
Unfortunately there are a lot of people out there that are simply stupid - including our own friends and family. Proceed with caution.
Bonhoeffer‘s Theory of Stupidity
Praying for you, your children, and the environment you’re in!!!
Sounds like you brought this on yourself. I’m shocked that Q folks don’t realize how crazy it sounds to normies. I have a great relationship with my family because I don’t bring this stuff up. I pray something happens and I hope for it.. I don’t speak on it (except to my girlfriend)and I have a great time. Vote Trump 2024.