I have no issue with Trump being pro-vax and I am happy that he is strongly anti-mandate.
What I do have an issue with is his WORDS stating that is the unvaccinated who are the ones getting sick, going into the hospital….because they don’t take the vaccine.
TRUMP QUOTE
The vaccine is one of the greatest achievements of mankind … I came up with three vaccines, all are very good … The ones that get very sick and go to the hospital are the ones that don’t take the vaccine, but it’s still their choice.”
These WORDS are what are giving ammunition to the pro-vaccine crowd...that it is the unvaccinated who are to BLAME for the hospitals being full and the reason that society is still shut down.
In my country...they blame the unvaccinated for everything…not being able to travel, businesses closing down, breakthrough covid in the vaccinated, killing grandma…etc.
It is these WORDS…”the ones that get very sick…that don’t take the vaccine.”
These WORDS are what caused people to lose or quit their jobs, these words are the reason people are attacking the unvaccinated as if they were “selfish untouchables” they cannot invite to Christmas dinner.
These WORDS are the reason the unvaccinated have become “verboten”… just as the Jews were in 1930s Germany.
If Trump or anyone in his inner circle can “explain” the reasoning of why they would shoot these arrows at the unvaccinated…it would be greatly appreciated.
Ultimately this entire conversation needs to open up “to the truth” as to why young athletes are getting myocarditis, and why so many others are getting injured from the vaccine. Is this the truth? Or is the DS using more disinformation on the unvaccinated?
Are all these stories just fake news to incite fear in people and to prevent people from getting the vaccine and therefore causing more division?
What is the end game?
Where are the strategical thinkers?
Where is the Anon’s brilliant hive mind on this issue?
I think that may be an angle but why did he have to say all the hospitalized people are the ones that didn’t take it. He didn’t really have to mention that specifically.
It is war and the White Hats are measuring metrics on a daily basis in order to gauge when to make things happen for the best benefit.
How do you know what they can and cannot say? Remember back when Trump was in office, he used to tweet the dangdest things? It was to make the DS react a particular way that would advance the war effort.
If this is part of his strategy, I really don't see any benefit in continuing to support the "vaccines". Could he be waiting to see if any more cockroaches step out from the shadows?
I just wish he would stop bringing it up.
Trump is brilliant, but he has made mistakes in the past. Endorsing candidates that win political positions and turn around and stab him in the back.
Whether or not this is strategy we've not privy to, there ARE people who will get the jab, or jab their kids BECAUSE of his recent statements. And some will die.
I am as baffled as everyone else. The clearest message is that he demands credit for the vaccine development. Take the vaccine but your choice is contradictory. More unvaccinated are dying is obfuscated and not really certain because of all the games over defining "vaccinated" and with vs. from and manipulated statistics.
He’s sacrificing the pawns to win the game. We’re pawns in this game and let’s not pretend we’re anything else. Lost Jobs, livelihood…. This is a war for crying out, stop whining! Have the faith frens. Those who survive to see the sun rise will be rewarded.
From a spiritual perspective I am on the forefront of this battle.
I am talking with my fellow warriors about what our General is doing. I will not retreat from this war, I am asking about what is the messaging that we are getting about the next hill that we have to fight on.
Aren’t they counting the people who have had only 2 shots unvaxxed now until they get the booster? Maybe the ones in hospitals & who are dying who have taken 2 shots are now considered to be unvaxxed when they enter the hospital. To boost up the so called “unvaxxed” numbers. I don’t know but I still won’t get the shots and still pushing it home to my kids & husband about not getting it.
My husband is so fed up & stressed at his job (non-vaxx related, they don’t at all demand anyone get the jab or tested) that he is looking for another job that’s federal related but knows they are most likely going to demand he get the jab, and he is on the verge of considering it. I told him he WILL NOT get the vaxx! One day he asked me “so will you divorce me if I get it?” I said yes I will, so you better decide which is more important to you! Mind you we have been married for over 30 yrs and have 3 grown children together. I know I stressed him out even more knowing that any job requiring the jab is out of the question, but I couldn’t live with myself if I didn’t try hard to keep him from subjecting himself to it just so he can make sure I’m taken care of because I can’t work. I really don’t cost much, I don’t ask for much, as a matter of fact since he had no idea what to get me for Christmas, he didn’t get me anything. I know at least 2 of our kids can’t afford to get me anything so I don’t expect anything. So I “may” get one gift this holiday from our middle child. I’ll be happy if my family never gets another vaxx ever and that they are happy & healthy. That’s my wish for the holidays.
This is what is making everyone crazy, we always want predictability and there is a campaign to keep us confused. Sticking just to the statement that more vaccinated are dying in hospitals, how do we know? We don't know, just from that, that they died OF Corona, or WITH it, or from denied or biased treatment: besides stories about differential care, there is the financial reward to hospitals. We don't know if they just had a shot and really died of a vaccine injury, but they were counted as unvaccinated. We don't know how many vaccinated people are dying outside of hospitals for whatever reason so we can't really make an overall comparison of the two groups when we only talk about " in the hospital." This is the result of massive lying and manipulation for almost two years now by vaccine makers and the people getting rich from them, including media and politicians.
I could believe that if I didn't personally know of a healthy and hard working 18 year old who died in her sleep 8 days after getting vaxxed and feeling severely fatigued every day after.
Imagine if he said “I am responsible for a lot of deaths related to Warp Speed. I accept the death penalty for my actions, and everyone else who negligently harmed millions should do the same.”
He is responsible for signing an executive order in September 2019 that allows for nano bots and nano particles and etc. etc. but if he didn’t understand what that was should’ve had it explained to him before he signed it that’s what he’s responsible for
It is becoming clear that he can be bought and he’s been bought with his own ego-he is unable at this point to look at the situation objectively factually medically and reasonably. Don’t get me wrong I vote for him again in a heartbeat he gave us four years of peace and prosperity but on this issue I cannot compromise
You must have missed elliptical sentences in grammar. "I am as baffled as anyone else who is baffled." Also, anyone =/= everyone. Nice to know not all of us are baffled. They should be able to enlighten us with their clarity of thinking. Merry Christmas!
Europa, I couldn’t agree with you more. It’s one thing to have to stick to being for the vaccine, but it’s totally different to promote with lies. Stating they are highly effective and that you’re not going to get really sick or die if vaxxed etc…Then to promote fear if you’re not vaxxed you will. There have been plenty of vaxxed people that were hospitalized and some have died. To deny this is to lie.
I’m glad to see this sentiment being expressed here.
But, there is no such thing as “your truth”. That statement is part of the problem. There is only the truth, whether one chooses to believe it or not is up to them.
Pres Trump said something many here find unpleasant and disagree with, it's what good Politicians and Leaders do, make tough decisions. And he came to the decision, that in his opinion, he is very much advising all who listen to get the vaccine. People can spin this with 'disinfo is necessary, 5D chess' etc all you want. When the rubber met the road, he himself has said now multiple times he is very much Pro-Vax while also being Anti-Mandate. The 2 can coincide.
I don't see how its "a complete 180 from his earlier vax position". Such comments suggest vaxx obsessed hyperbole.
As a Great Reset savvy anti vaxxer, imo fearful obsessives, both pro and anti vaxx, are serving the Global Psychopaths agenda. All fearfuls are in my prayers.
this. just because he’s proud of how fast his administration got the vaccines out doesn’t mean he can’t ALSO be fully against mandates. he supports the vaccines HE made but he doesn’t support mandates and is still very pro freedom. everyone relax
"I came up with a vaccine, no, the three vaccines, all are very good … " You cannot argue his words on the original interview. "I" he says. He takes ownership. Done and done.
I think both of you are right? I mean, as POTUS, he was responsible for WARPSPEED. Leaders are accountable for their decisions. He didn't create the jab himself, but he was responsible for unleashing it into the world at the accelerated pace it was.
He is saying 'greatest achievement', 'safe', 'all those dying are unvaxxed'. Stop lying to yourselves folks.. he thinks this. To say otherwise is calling him a liar.
Ok what you said is not wrong. You have a point we should be cautious. Just wanted to point out an interesting body language observation when he said “all three vaccines are very very good” he shook his head like “no it’s not”. @4:30
Everyone suffers and eventually dies. Thats unavoidable.
Fighting and winning a world war requires embracing and being motivated by the inevitable suffering, sacrifices, casualties, deaths and martyrs just as our ancestors did.
Is life meaningful or pointless? Each person decides. Everyone dies. For some death isn't fatal.
If anyone other than Trump had done this, everyone here would be out with torches and pitchforks looking for them.
I hate thinking it, but it does give credence to those who say Trump supporters are a cult of personality.
Just imagine what you would do if some Democrat president had pushed through an experimental vaccine program, named it Operation Warp Speed, constantly brag about how THEY were responsible for it, constantly told people that THEY had taken it and that it was safe and that everyone SHOULD take it, but said "Hey, it's your choice." so they wouldn't be held responsible when something inevitably went wrong.
Be honest. What would you do?
EVERYTHING Trump does that we don't like is just brushed aside with that "5D" chess bullshit.
I wouldn't be surprised at all if this post gets me booted from here, but it needed to be said.
Maybe it needed to be said, but it’s your opinion and not necessarily fact. That’s the problem with this attitude - that we, who really know VERY little about what’s going on around us, know better than the guys in the trenches. You’re entitled to your opinion, and to voice it, but it illuminates your lack of insight - not ours. Doom away.
Step back from the situation for a moment and look at it from an outsider's perspective.
People here are constantly told to think for themselves, don't be a sheep, do your research, etc..
But also there is the overwhelming consensus of "Don't say anything against our group think, and if what you believe differs from the group on a single matter, you are obviously a shill/doomer!"
"Just imagine what you would do if some Democrat president had pushed through an experimental vaccine program, named it Operation Warp Speed, constantly brag about how THEY were responsible for it, constantly told people that THEY had taken it and that it was safe and that everyone SHOULD take it, but said 'Hey, it's your choice.' so they wouldn't be held responsible when something inevitably went wrong."
If that's all they did, then no problem. There is no responsibility if one exercises freedom of speech, expresses an opinion, and people go along with it. They had the opportunity to think for themselves, research the subject, and walk away. When people act like sheep, they get eaten by wolves.
The PROBLEM is that we have a real Democrat president, and governors, who push a compliance mandate in contravention of our rights and liberties, and forbid humane and effective treatment in preference to systematic homicide and fear-mongering. Trump is nowhere close to doing that.
Trump gave us 4 years of the most resolutely freedom-oriented administration in modern times. He is possibly the greatest president since George Washington, and we have been deprived of his second term by an evil plan that stole the election from us, as an act of war by foreign powers. He is apparently at work to oppose this. I think he is worth extending an extraordinary measure of judgment withheld until all is revealed.
It is very clear that he is playing a role, and part of that role is to remain invisible. So long as he goes along---in seeming spirit---with the vaccines, the press will NOT cover him. He is hewing the party line...therefore he gets no special coverage, because they begrudge him any praise. Had he not, there would have been unrelenting attack and attention. They now see him as a inconsequential piece on the chessboard. Fine. That is the way he wants it. (And I suspect that when he is booed at rallies for advocating the vaccines, he is inwardly gratified to know that his public is not fooled.)
Meanwhile, the grassroots have begun to expose the lies and mendacity behind this whole affair. THAT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY. Trump can't do everything. Q has trained us up to question and research and spread the word. We are at war. If we somehow have failed to grasp that the Hour Is Now and Our Duty Is Clear, then the fault is with us. If Trump is invisible (because compliant), but the resistance is mounting...they can't blame him. It will not be Trump leading us into battle, but us leading our fellow countrymen into battle. This will be the condition for a rejection of the false election results and a reinstatement of Trump. He has to be pulled back into office by a grateful and righteous populace. Can it really work any other way?
So, if you have grief with Trump, walk away and don't look back. The first rule of warfare is "Don't step on a land mine." We have discovered that a distressing proportion of our countrymen are functioning idiots, willing to step on the spot marked "X." Well, how did we get into this pickle, were it not for the long-standing deterioration of public wisdom? It's not a spectacle I ever wanted to see, but we have no one to blame but ourselves. What we can do is continue warning people, and continue pressing the complaint about the stolen election. Be steadfast, and keep faith with the one mortal who has done the most to prepare us for this struggle. And be mindful of God, that He appoints mortals to execute His work on Earth.
Except we do have a democrat president that says the vaccine is so good and you DOnT have a choice whether you want it or not …AND we’re still not going to be responsible for it if smth bad happens.
Biden's mandates are mostly him blowing hot air and posturing for liberals. During his campaign, he admitted that any vaccine mandate he issued would most likely be unenforceable.
Just look at how many lawsuits have been issued over the mandates and how many have been ruled unconstitutional.
You ALWAYS have a choice. The mandates are not for the general population, but are attached to employment. We are not slaves. We work by our own free will. And there is the choice between getting the vaccine or getting a weekly covid test.
The choices might royally suck, but there ARE choices. Sometimes life sucks and you get the short end of the stick, but that's not the same as not having a choice. I believe it's important to understand the differences and to acknowledge them.
In our family my husband and I are the only ones not vaccinated. We did warn everyone they know the vaccines are dangerous and can kill you but all we got was my job, my vacations, my bars etc. But at least we all have family gatherings and no one cares that we are not vaccinated. I hear lots of families torn apart from this but in our family no one even mentions it. We have family gatherings often regardless of what the government says such as tonight Christmas eve we will all be together and no one cares about the vax.
One person in our immediate family has been jabbed because he was given no choice - either get the jab or lose his career. He’s young, has a mortgage and a car payment and a family to feed. We tried to warn him because we love him, not because we want to be right. He didn’t want to do it, and I pray he’ll be okay - and I will NEVER ostracize him. We will spend Christmas, with him included, both tonight and tomorrow. Fear is the enemy we have to fight against. I am no different than those who ostracize the unvaxxed if I allow myself to fear those who’ve felt they had no other choice than to be jabbed. Remember, their goal is to DIVIDE US!
I’m happy to say that I drilled that message into both sides of my family and NOT A SINGLE ONE OF THEM has gotten the jab. They all now see this for what it is.
Ditto for my immediate family. Don't give two fucks about the extended family; i.e. step mother, step brothers and all their brood, since they've never ever given me the time of day, much less listen to any "conspiracy theories" I tried to warn them about in the past. They're now suffering effects I warned them about from the jabs. Shit thing is, my older step brothers wife is an RN. Absolutely belittled and demeaned me after warning about the COVID BS. Screw her...never liked her anyway, pompous cunt.
MY Family, is safe, aware, and follows my lead.....as it should be.
To add to that, right now it seems that the vaccines are not all bad, but that certain batches of the vaccines are bad.
Maybe in the future it will become clear that the Deep State purposefully contaminated certain batches to injure and kill people and that that was their main plan.
What I've never understood is why the DS is killing off their own useful idiots while their main enemy is staying far from their death shots? What sense does that make?
I don't fully believe the whole "some batches are ok" argument going around, but who the hell really knows anymore?
Whole heartedly agree. People need to realize we are at WAR. We have to get our emotions under control now because crazier shit is probably coming that we need to be sound minded and ready for. Buck up
The world should be full of opposing opinions and a free exchange of information -- even what some people claim is 'misinformation'. (If we disagree with that, we get cancel culture and censorship.)
A properly functioning individual then analyzes the info, and figures out what is true.
If we don't learn how to do that again, we will always be at the mercy of whoever wants to lie to us. (And there willalwaysbe someone who wants to lie to us.) Our defense is to distinguish lies from truth - no matter who is telling the story.
Trump is willing to 'take the slings and arrows' even from our side in order to teach us this lesson.
So if this is trump's vaccine and he wants full credit, then doesnt he get full credit and responsibility for the vaccine's damages? Sounds like trump should be tried for crimes against humanity next to fauci.
When POTUS says something that triggers, I just let it go because I figure it's comms beyond my comprehension or he's playing some 4D chess. IMO, many ofd the "triggered" are not MAGA and come here and go to other sites to shake our faith in POTUS. Sorry bros and broettes, it doesn't work.
There must be something that Trump is gonna use as an argument against them. Maybe Trump was funding something completely different that they have delivered and Trump is able to prove it when the truth about vaccines comes out.
Yes and on that thought. Statistically far more liberals then conservatives will get the jab. You're killing off a generation of liberals.Remember we are at war.
I just watched this short 15 minute breakdown of what the theory of Trump's jab comments is. Interesting insight. Not sure who this guy is. https://t.me/PatriotNewsGroup/21795
That's Clif High. That's some interesting interpretation, given as Clif points out they fucked with the definition to the point where even HCQ and Ivermectin could be called "vaccines". Has Trump actually stated which vax and booster he's taken? By Clif's logic I'm giving myself a "booster" every day that I take the Zelenko Protocol.
Trump tried saying the real cures, but got shot down and banned. The shot isn't a vaccine, but "they" changed the definition to include almost anything. So what Trump called for at first would now be called a vaccine in the new terminology. He may not be calling for any of us to get shots, but to take the medicines we know about.
I consider the possibility that the statistics and bad press about vaxx could be a huge bullshit ploy. But anything Fauci pushes, is, to me, automatically an evil genocidal America-hating plot. Therefore it makes more sense to be suspicious of the vaxx. There never has been such an elaborate and desperate push to manipulate the masses before, worldwide, towards a Big Pharma goal. There is some wicked shit going down!
I have no issue with Trump being pro-vax and I am happy that he is strongly anti-mandate.
What I do have an issue with is his WORDS stating that is the unvaccinated who are the ones getting sick, going into the hospital….because they don’t take the vaccine.
TRUMP QUOTE
These WORDS are what are giving ammunition to the pro-vaccine crowd...that it is the unvaccinated who are to BLAME for the hospitals being full and the reason that society is still shut down.
In my country...they blame the unvaccinated for everything…not being able to travel, businesses closing down, breakthrough covid in the vaccinated, killing grandma…etc.
It is these WORDS…”the ones that get very sick…that don’t take the vaccine.”
These WORDS are what caused people to lose or quit their jobs, these words are the reason people are attacking the unvaccinated as if they were “selfish untouchables” they cannot invite to Christmas dinner.
These WORDS are the reason the unvaccinated have become “verboten”… just as the Jews were in 1930s Germany.
If Trump or anyone in his inner circle can “explain” the reasoning of why they would shoot these arrows at the unvaccinated…it would be greatly appreciated.
Ultimately this entire conversation needs to open up “to the truth” as to why young athletes are getting myocarditis, and why so many others are getting injured from the vaccine. Is this the truth? Or is the DS using more disinformation on the unvaccinated?
Are all these stories just fake news to incite fear in people and to prevent people from getting the vaccine and therefore causing more division?
What is the end game?
Where are the strategical thinkers?
Where is the Anon’s brilliant hive mind on this issue?
Speak your truth here.
^^^This
Yea look neutral but he’s got a point. Why did Trump have to bring up the unvaxed are the ones getting hospitalized?
What do you think he’s implying?
It is litmus testing to see how many provax are still out there.
I think that may be an angle but why did he have to say all the hospitalized people are the ones that didn’t take it. He didn’t really have to mention that specifically.
It is war and the White Hats are measuring metrics on a daily basis in order to gauge when to make things happen for the best benefit.
How do you know what they can and cannot say? Remember back when Trump was in office, he used to tweet the dangdest things? It was to make the DS react a particular way that would advance the war effort.
Yep, I love Trump but this was disappointing. It’s OK to be disappointed. That doesn’t make me weak. It just makes me objective
If this is part of his strategy, I really don't see any benefit in continuing to support the "vaccines". Could he be waiting to see if any more cockroaches step out from the shadows? I just wish he would stop bringing it up.
Trump is brilliant, but he has made mistakes in the past. Endorsing candidates that win political positions and turn around and stab him in the back.
Whether or not this is strategy we've not privy to, there ARE people who will get the jab, or jab their kids BECAUSE of his recent statements. And some will die.
I am as baffled as everyone else. The clearest message is that he demands credit for the vaccine development. Take the vaccine but your choice is contradictory. More unvaccinated are dying is obfuscated and not really certain because of all the games over defining "vaccinated" and with vs. from and manipulated statistics.
Thank you for your input…we need to figure this out.
I can understand all the mental gymnastics of the Art of War, deceiving your enemies. I can understand the latest angle of attack.
But why would he blame the unvaccinated? It is the reason so many lost their jobs, friends and family.
He’s sacrificing the pawns to win the game. We’re pawns in this game and let’s not pretend we’re anything else. Lost Jobs, livelihood…. This is a war for crying out, stop whining! Have the faith frens. Those who survive to see the sun rise will be rewarded.
From a spiritual perspective I am on the forefront of this battle.
I am talking with my fellow warriors about what our General is doing. I will not retreat from this war, I am asking about what is the messaging that we are getting about the next hill that we have to fight on.
WWG1 WGA
He isn't blaming. He's making a statement that may be of questionable truth.
That’s my question about what is “questionable truth”
Is the vaccine really safe?
Or is someone lying to us?
By making fake videos and faux posts about the vaccine maiming and killing people..as yet just another tactic to divide us.
Aren’t they counting the people who have had only 2 shots unvaxxed now until they get the booster? Maybe the ones in hospitals & who are dying who have taken 2 shots are now considered to be unvaxxed when they enter the hospital. To boost up the so called “unvaxxed” numbers. I don’t know but I still won’t get the shots and still pushing it home to my kids & husband about not getting it.
My husband is so fed up & stressed at his job (non-vaxx related, they don’t at all demand anyone get the jab or tested) that he is looking for another job that’s federal related but knows they are most likely going to demand he get the jab, and he is on the verge of considering it. I told him he WILL NOT get the vaxx! One day he asked me “so will you divorce me if I get it?” I said yes I will, so you better decide which is more important to you! Mind you we have been married for over 30 yrs and have 3 grown children together. I know I stressed him out even more knowing that any job requiring the jab is out of the question, but I couldn’t live with myself if I didn’t try hard to keep him from subjecting himself to it just so he can make sure I’m taken care of because I can’t work. I really don’t cost much, I don’t ask for much, as a matter of fact since he had no idea what to get me for Christmas, he didn’t get me anything. I know at least 2 of our kids can’t afford to get me anything so I don’t expect anything. So I “may” get one gift this holiday from our middle child. I’ll be happy if my family never gets another vaxx ever and that they are happy & healthy. That’s my wish for the holidays.
You are a Keeper!!!
Atta girl!
This is what is making everyone crazy, we always want predictability and there is a campaign to keep us confused. Sticking just to the statement that more vaccinated are dying in hospitals, how do we know? We don't know, just from that, that they died OF Corona, or WITH it, or from denied or biased treatment: besides stories about differential care, there is the financial reward to hospitals. We don't know if they just had a shot and really died of a vaccine injury, but they were counted as unvaccinated. We don't know how many vaccinated people are dying outside of hospitals for whatever reason so we can't really make an overall comparison of the two groups when we only talk about " in the hospital." This is the result of massive lying and manipulation for almost two years now by vaccine makers and the people getting rich from them, including media and politicians.
I could believe that if I didn't personally know of a healthy and hard working 18 year old who died in her sleep 8 days after getting vaxxed and feeling severely fatigued every day after.
Imagine if he said “I am responsible for a lot of deaths related to Warp Speed. I accept the death penalty for my actions, and everyone else who negligently harmed millions should do the same.”
He is responsible for signing an executive order in September 2019 that allows for nano bots and nano particles and etc. etc. but if he didn’t understand what that was should’ve had it explained to him before he signed it that’s what he’s responsible for
Maybe they need the nanobots to repair the damage to the clotlings?
It is becoming clear that he can be bought and he’s been bought with his own ego-he is unable at this point to look at the situation objectively factually medically and reasonably. Don’t get me wrong I vote for him again in a heartbeat he gave us four years of peace and prosperity but on this issue I cannot compromise
Prefacing this psyop scripted Drumpf bEtrAyEd uS narrative with "Its becoming clear" inspires 😂😂😂😂😂😂.
You must have missed elliptical sentences in grammar. "I am as baffled as anyone else who is baffled." Also, anyone =/= everyone. Nice to know not all of us are baffled. They should be able to enlighten us with their clarity of thinking. Merry Christmas!
Europa, I couldn’t agree with you more. It’s one thing to have to stick to being for the vaccine, but it’s totally different to promote with lies. Stating they are highly effective and that you’re not going to get really sick or die if vaxxed etc…Then to promote fear if you’re not vaxxed you will. There have been plenty of vaxxed people that were hospitalized and some have died. To deny this is to lie.
I’m glad to see this sentiment being expressed here.
But, there is no such thing as “your truth”. That statement is part of the problem. There is only the truth, whether one chooses to believe it or not is up to them.
Yes I stand correct.
Truth..there is only one.
Well said!!! Thank you
Pres Trump said something many here find unpleasant and disagree with, it's what good Politicians and Leaders do, make tough decisions. And he came to the decision, that in his opinion, he is very much advising all who listen to get the vaccine. People can spin this with 'disinfo is necessary, 5D chess' etc all you want. When the rubber met the road, he himself has said now multiple times he is very much Pro-Vax while also being Anti-Mandate. The 2 can coincide.
I pray this is just part of a calculated move to get people with TDS to wake up
At this point I’ll take my chances with the Wu flu and I have ivm/hcq/monoclonal antibodies if it gets crazy.
Lying isn’t cool.
I don't see how its "a complete 180 from his earlier vax position". Such comments suggest vaxx obsessed hyperbole.
As a Great Reset savvy anti vaxxer, imo fearful obsessives, both pro and anti vaxx, are serving the Global Psychopaths agenda. All fearfuls are in my prayers.
this. just because he’s proud of how fast his administration got the vaccines out doesn’t mean he can’t ALSO be fully against mandates. he supports the vaccines HE made but he doesn’t support mandates and is still very pro freedom. everyone relax
No.
"I came up with a vaccine, no, the three vaccines, all are very good … " You cannot argue his words on the original interview. "I" he says. He takes ownership. Done and done.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXDY1rkSnyY&t=262s
I think both of you are right? I mean, as POTUS, he was responsible for WARPSPEED. Leaders are accountable for their decisions. He didn't create the jab himself, but he was responsible for unleashing it into the world at the accelerated pace it was.
Perhaps rewatch Qs YT link to the famous scene "Combat tactics, Mr Ryan" from the movie "Hunt for Red October".
President Trump was dealing with the Globalists inescapable covid vaccine torpedoes. How did he ACCELERATE? Operation Warp Speed.
Watch this 2 minute video and tell me what the man in the video is saying:
https://youtu.be/IXDY1rkSnyY?t=203
He is saying 'greatest achievement', 'safe', 'all those dying are unvaxxed'. Stop lying to yourselves folks.. he thinks this. To say otherwise is calling him a liar.
Actually he is liar, thing is our liar or their liar.
Ok what you said is not wrong. You have a point we should be cautious. Just wanted to point out an interesting body language observation when he said “all three vaccines are very very good” he shook his head like “no it’s not”. @4:30
Everyone suffers and eventually dies. Thats unavoidable.
Fighting and winning a world war requires embracing and being motivated by the inevitable suffering, sacrifices, casualties, deaths and martyrs just as our ancestors did.
Is life meaningful or pointless? Each person decides. Everyone dies. For some death isn't fatal.
Merry Christmas. 😘
^^^^ Gets it.
If anyone other than Trump had done this, everyone here would be out with torches and pitchforks looking for them.
I hate thinking it, but it does give credence to those who say Trump supporters are a cult of personality.
Just imagine what you would do if some Democrat president had pushed through an experimental vaccine program, named it Operation Warp Speed, constantly brag about how THEY were responsible for it, constantly told people that THEY had taken it and that it was safe and that everyone SHOULD take it, but said "Hey, it's your choice." so they wouldn't be held responsible when something inevitably went wrong.
Be honest. What would you do?
EVERYTHING Trump does that we don't like is just brushed aside with that "5D" chess bullshit.
I wouldn't be surprised at all if this post gets me booted from here, but it needed to be said.
Maybe it needed to be said, but it’s your opinion and not necessarily fact. That’s the problem with this attitude - that we, who really know VERY little about what’s going on around us, know better than the guys in the trenches. You’re entitled to your opinion, and to voice it, but it illuminates your lack of insight - not ours. Doom away.
Step back from the situation for a moment and look at it from an outsider's perspective.
People here are constantly told to think for themselves, don't be a sheep, do your research, etc..
But also there is the overwhelming consensus of "Don't say anything against our group think, and if what you believe differs from the group on a single matter, you are obviously a shill/doomer!"
Your whole premise is wrong.
"Just imagine what you would do if some Democrat president had pushed through an experimental vaccine program, named it Operation Warp Speed, constantly brag about how THEY were responsible for it, constantly told people that THEY had taken it and that it was safe and that everyone SHOULD take it, but said 'Hey, it's your choice.' so they wouldn't be held responsible when something inevitably went wrong."
If that's all they did, then no problem. There is no responsibility if one exercises freedom of speech, expresses an opinion, and people go along with it. They had the opportunity to think for themselves, research the subject, and walk away. When people act like sheep, they get eaten by wolves.
The PROBLEM is that we have a real Democrat president, and governors, who push a compliance mandate in contravention of our rights and liberties, and forbid humane and effective treatment in preference to systematic homicide and fear-mongering. Trump is nowhere close to doing that.
Trump gave us 4 years of the most resolutely freedom-oriented administration in modern times. He is possibly the greatest president since George Washington, and we have been deprived of his second term by an evil plan that stole the election from us, as an act of war by foreign powers. He is apparently at work to oppose this. I think he is worth extending an extraordinary measure of judgment withheld until all is revealed.
It is very clear that he is playing a role, and part of that role is to remain invisible. So long as he goes along---in seeming spirit---with the vaccines, the press will NOT cover him. He is hewing the party line...therefore he gets no special coverage, because they begrudge him any praise. Had he not, there would have been unrelenting attack and attention. They now see him as a inconsequential piece on the chessboard. Fine. That is the way he wants it. (And I suspect that when he is booed at rallies for advocating the vaccines, he is inwardly gratified to know that his public is not fooled.)
Meanwhile, the grassroots have begun to expose the lies and mendacity behind this whole affair. THAT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY. Trump can't do everything. Q has trained us up to question and research and spread the word. We are at war. If we somehow have failed to grasp that the Hour Is Now and Our Duty Is Clear, then the fault is with us. If Trump is invisible (because compliant), but the resistance is mounting...they can't blame him. It will not be Trump leading us into battle, but us leading our fellow countrymen into battle. This will be the condition for a rejection of the false election results and a reinstatement of Trump. He has to be pulled back into office by a grateful and righteous populace. Can it really work any other way?
So, if you have grief with Trump, walk away and don't look back. The first rule of warfare is "Don't step on a land mine." We have discovered that a distressing proportion of our countrymen are functioning idiots, willing to step on the spot marked "X." Well, how did we get into this pickle, were it not for the long-standing deterioration of public wisdom? It's not a spectacle I ever wanted to see, but we have no one to blame but ourselves. What we can do is continue warning people, and continue pressing the complaint about the stolen election. Be steadfast, and keep faith with the one mortal who has done the most to prepare us for this struggle. And be mindful of God, that He appoints mortals to execute His work on Earth.
Very nicely stated.
Except we do have a democrat president that says the vaccine is so good and you DOnT have a choice whether you want it or not …AND we’re still not going to be responsible for it if smth bad happens.
Just look at how many lawsuits have been issued over the mandates and how many have been ruled unconstitutional.
The choices might royally suck, but there ARE choices. Sometimes life sucks and you get the short end of the stick, but that's not the same as not having a choice. I believe it's important to understand the differences and to acknowledge them.
If the ends justifies the means we have adopted the same ideology as the satanists.
absolutely. People need to stop putting hope in Trump. He's just a man.
In our family my husband and I are the only ones not vaccinated. We did warn everyone they know the vaccines are dangerous and can kill you but all we got was my job, my vacations, my bars etc. But at least we all have family gatherings and no one cares that we are not vaccinated. I hear lots of families torn apart from this but in our family no one even mentions it. We have family gatherings often regardless of what the government says such as tonight Christmas eve we will all be together and no one cares about the vax.
One person in our immediate family has been jabbed because he was given no choice - either get the jab or lose his career. He’s young, has a mortgage and a car payment and a family to feed. We tried to warn him because we love him, not because we want to be right. He didn’t want to do it, and I pray he’ll be okay - and I will NEVER ostracize him. We will spend Christmas, with him included, both tonight and tomorrow. Fear is the enemy we have to fight against. I am no different than those who ostracize the unvaxxed if I allow myself to fear those who’ve felt they had no other choice than to be jabbed. Remember, their goal is to DIVIDE US!
Ditto for my immediate family. Don't give two fucks about the extended family; i.e. step mother, step brothers and all their brood, since they've never ever given me the time of day, much less listen to any "conspiracy theories" I tried to warn them about in the past. They're now suffering effects I warned them about from the jabs. Shit thing is, my older step brothers wife is an RN. Absolutely belittled and demeaned me after warning about the COVID BS. Screw her...never liked her anyway, pompous cunt.
MY Family, is safe, aware, and follows my lead.....as it should be.
Nah.he ain't your just working for the commies. You should get crappy coal.
If was actually pro-choice, he would be coming down hard against the mandates like others. He just isn't doing that.
He's repeatedly come "down hard against the mandates". If you haven't heard him the problem lies with you.
Infantalized Americans expecting a TV Daddy to save them with magic words is also a problem. A problem that President Trump is helping to reveal.
To add to that, right now it seems that the vaccines are not all bad, but that certain batches of the vaccines are bad.
Maybe in the future it will become clear that the Deep State purposefully contaminated certain batches to injure and kill people and that that was their main plan.
What I've never understood is why the DS is killing off their own useful idiots while their main enemy is staying far from their death shots? What sense does that make?
I don't fully believe the whole "some batches are ok" argument going around, but who the hell really knows anymore?
A lot of there enemy took em too.but you must wonder
Whole heartedly agree. People need to realize we are at WAR. We have to get our emotions under control now because crazier shit is probably coming that we need to be sound minded and ready for. Buck up
I agree, sadly as a latecomer I didn't have them time to convince anyone of anything except my impending madness...
I didn't manage to convince anyone either.
Ah, sorry fren. We tried.
Saved a lot of friends, lost a lot of family. Worth? Idk.
When you do the right thing, you don't have to deal with the guilt.
this is what leadership looks like
The world should be full of opposing opinions and a free exchange of information -- even what some people claim is 'misinformation'. (If we disagree with that, we get cancel culture and censorship.)
A properly functioning individual then analyzes the info, and figures out what is true.
If we don't learn how to do that again, we will always be at the mercy of whoever wants to lie to us. (And there will always be someone who wants to lie to us.) Our defense is to distinguish lies from truth - no matter who is telling the story.
Trump is willing to 'take the slings and arrows' even from our side in order to teach us this lesson.
The survival of humanity depends on it.
The VAX is an IQ test. Some pass some fail.
Trump was never the start of Q..... Q recruited Trump and he is part of the plan not the planner......
WWG1WGA
We are the ones we’ve been waiting for.
So if this is trump's vaccine and he wants full credit, then doesnt he get full credit and responsibility for the vaccine's damages? Sounds like trump should be tried for crimes against humanity next to fauci.
"Wants" be tried (and proven innocent) or should be tried indeed.
Could potentially be leading them into a trap trial. How do you present evidence and all that.
But also everyone here wants to give him credit and forgets what giving him credit entails (liability).
When POTUS says something that triggers, I just let it go because I figure it's comms beyond my comprehension or he's playing some 4D chess. IMO, many ofd the "triggered" are not MAGA and come here and go to other sites to shake our faith in POTUS. Sorry bros and broettes, it doesn't work.
This. 👆👆👆. 100% this.
There must be something that Trump is gonna use as an argument against them. Maybe Trump was funding something completely different that they have delivered and Trump is able to prove it when the truth about vaccines comes out.
Good!! All good!!
Quite Right. We are at war. And ain't got time to bleed.
Yes and on that thought. Statistically far more liberals then conservatives will get the jab. You're killing off a generation of liberals.Remember we are at war.
Go take another booster and STFU. Just because you choose to raionalize bullshit doesn't mean anyone else has to.
I just watched this short 15 minute breakdown of what the theory of Trump's jab comments is. Interesting insight. Not sure who this guy is. https://t.me/PatriotNewsGroup/21795
That's Clif High. That's some interesting interpretation, given as Clif points out they fucked with the definition to the point where even HCQ and Ivermectin could be called "vaccines". Has Trump actually stated which vax and booster he's taken? By Clif's logic I'm giving myself a "booster" every day that I take the Zelenko Protocol.
Trump tried saying the real cures, but got shot down and banned. The shot isn't a vaccine, but "they" changed the definition to include almost anything. So what Trump called for at first would now be called a vaccine in the new terminology. He may not be calling for any of us to get shots, but to take the medicines we know about.
5D chess and all that.
So by this new definition am I taking a "booster" every day when I take Quercitin or NAC?
Maybe that's what Trump means.
Good job on saving both sides of tje famy. That is strong leadership ability.
Clif_High talks about why Trump says the vaxx saved lives... https://www.bitchute.com/video/WVUaNNbB02yA/ Worth listening...
I consider the possibility that the statistics and bad press about vaxx could be a huge bullshit ploy. But anything Fauci pushes, is, to me, automatically an evil genocidal America-hating plot. Therefore it makes more sense to be suspicious of the vaxx. There never has been such an elaborate and desperate push to manipulate the masses before, worldwide, towards a Big Pharma goal. There is some wicked shit going down!
Agreed!
THAAAAANK YOOOUU! Tighten up and keep your powder dry pedes!
Harsh but true .