This is probably going to rustle some feathers given that thread a mod stickied a while back, but it has to be said. EVERYTHING going on right now in regards to the trans crap and pedophilia is because of the forced acceptance of the gay agenda. You can say that they're piggybacking all you want, but the fact remains that the slippery slope "fallacy" has all but been proven true at this point.
Most people will generally agree that what two consenting adults do in private is between them and God. I won't say I don't care, because I don't want them to go to hell, but it's none of my business what they do in private, and I don't want to know what they do in private.
But this constant gay agenda acceptance push, legalizing gay marriage (personally I think marriage shouldn't be a government institution anyway, but that's another story), forcing everyone to compromise their beliefs and faith to make appease a fringe minority, etc. etc. has done nothing but cause a moral degradation of society.
Personally, I think it's a neurological defect. Which used to be the official psychologist narrative for decades until all of a sudden all mental health problems were "misdiagnosed because of intolerance" for hundreds of years. So I firmly believe there's probably a treatment for it just like how there's hundreds of cures for basically every disease, virus, and sickness known to man that's been held from us by the cabal.
But the point remains, and you can disagree if you want but everyone knows I'm right when I say this. If we don't rip out the entire rainbow tree out by the root, we'll just end up right back here in a few generations. It's just like any form of corruption, if you don't completely get rid of it, it'll fester and grow and come back once again.
And I don't know about everyone else, but anything that ultimately leads to satanic transhumanism and pedophilia is not something I find "acceptable" in any way, shape, form, or how.
I just want the rainbow back, and don't want pedos to have more rights than my children. Fastest slippery slope in history.
The Rainbow flag was deliberately chosen to attract children. Just look at all the products made for children over the decades. Always colorful.
This is likely true, but let the pendulum swing all the way in the other direction, and lets now recognize lgb persons as mentally ill and needing some counselling. I'm willing to try that direction for a while. Maybe they just have an imbalance in the brain or something. Starting to think this is the wrath of God or something.
I saw an informative video on YouTube (which I am sure is long gone) that discussed how it was a diagnosable mental illness, but TEH GAYZ took over the APA and removed it. It said that there was a drug that was prescribed up to the '70s that eliminated cross dressing. It's not like I hate anyone. I want these people to get help because transgenders have a 40% suicide rate, as well as another substantial percentage have regrets post-surgery, etc.
The trap we've allowed to accumulate is for saying that the gayness is 100% a lifestyle choice while the other side say it is 100% genetic and nothing can be done. Most of them are trapped in it through trauma, abuse, etc. Never having a father, witnessing domestic violence or a divorce, being molested, etc. Then there's the aspect of chemical disruption because yes, Atrazine is the chemical in the water that turns the frickin' frogs gay. We have no way of measuring those trace chemicals' effects on our bodies, and who is more susceptible to it. All the pesticides and herbicides play an issue too. Then yes, there is the issue with the wrath of God. I think Paul was talking directly about the debauchery of the Romans and Greeks, but it could very well apply today.
But the rainbow flag is actually Jewish in origin:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Autonomous_Oblast
pretty sure God gave the rainbow to everyone lol :)
Just about to say this. The rainbow was created by God for the purpose of us remembering His promise to never flood the world again. The lgbtxyz123 movement which was probably orchestrated by the DS (let's be real) is them mocking God whether people realize it or not. The devil seeks to twist God's creation into his own perverted image. The devil seeks to destroy that which God created. Every. Single. Thing.
My daughter and I had this conversation. Her thoughts are that they are Low on their particular hormone and this is what gives them the feelings for their same sex. She thinks; and I believe, that if they are given their hormone to bring it back to the levels needed, they would be 'normal.' Then there are those who have been 'brainwashed' into believing/like the transgender children, that they prefer same sex and are bisexual. All Hogwash in our beliefs.
And my daughter believes that the mutations of Amorphradites; which is not of their choosing since born that way, should be given the chance to choose at or before puberty and tested for which amount of hormones they have the most of; before being operated on. This should help all aspects of sexuality.
If this isn't the case, then God forgive me and my daughter for saying, "They should all go back into the closet and nail that sucker shut." Amen. We do NOT want this to influence young minds in our future generations. It is an abomination to God.
Simply pumping testosterone into these boys isnt going to solve anything. With regards to the women, they have more estrogen than ever - it is in everything. I would even argue that due to the presence of this amount of estrogen has made them even more malleable to social suggestion, which is precisely why they are only now deciding to transition after a strong push by our culture to get them to do precisely that.
(as an aside, probably the only benefit has been much larger breasts and wider hips in women, so. You know. There's that).
Regarding the boys, mind you, simply having more testosterone isnt going to help figure out their issues. Boys need to hone and develop their masculinity, and that takes effort and self-discipline - and that is at the bare minimum.
Before, it was expected that there would be a "coming of age" moment where a boy has to face death itself in order for him to become a man. We have nothing of the sort in our current civil structure. The vast majority of men around me that I respect have had their "coming of age" moment where they had to face some kind of death: physical, ego, spiritual, existential, etc.
Nah, this culture itself is not capable of building men and helping women. It needs a full overhaul.
Fathers involved in their sons lives would solve all of this.
Fathers who are leaders in their marriage, their family, and in their neighborhood is a huge key to this part. Aggressive feminism has emasculated men and given them permission to play Peter Pan. I say this loving women, and cherishing their God-given role in the family and world. It's just simply not to dominate over their husband.
It may not be, but it is their God-Given role to fucking try. And Men can only withstand that not individually, but collectively.
Fraternity wasn't extolled during the Revolutionary period because it was fashionable - it is the quintessential strength of a nation and the men within.
Feminism took aim first and foremost at Fraternity for that very reason - even if the rationale didn't acutely say so.
Are you referring to the curse in Genesis 3:16? "And you will desire to control your husband, but he will rule over you." Their role isn't "to try" it's to reject the consistent temptation to do so.
Just as men have to struggle against the curse "Cursed is the ground because of you; through painful toil you will eat food from it all the days of your life." ie, having a constant battle to provide food and shelter.
That is one way to look at it - but helping the resistance of such temptation is knownig that she is with a man who fulfills his own end of the bargain, so to speak.
However, the desire to dominate and consume is a hallmark of femininity when masculinity is weak.
One thing I've observed about a lot of women is that they will do whatever needs to happen in order for something they deem important to get done. So they may be disgusted by their man in their life but they will suck it up and do things they don't want to in order to ensure it gets done. The downside of that burden is they get bitter, withold, and basically lose interest and respect in their man. But when men step up and take over those responsibilities, they relax, are more feminine, fun-loving and generally mellow out. The problem is, we have generations of men who haven't been taught how to be the leader of their family.
So you think a man can't control his own wife but men are going to control women.
No way. It starts at home.
If men respected their own roles as the leader of the house we wouldn't have the 19th ammendment and we wouldn't have a lot of this mess.
Amen
Men have to become impressive enough to be fathers rather than sperm donors for this to be a thing at all.
Because your average 'father' in a family in today's culture is practically a cuck compared to what men were three generations ago.
Yeah. I thought exactly this as I was writing that thinking of how I was raised in the ‘60s and ‘70s but didn’t have the momentum to think it to the keyboard.
Such ignorance these days of how to live an actual productive balanced successful responsible life.
Good news is that good men still come around in times like this, they just are going to get less of everything.
But instead of bitching, moaning, getting angry, going their own way, whatever, they are going to take it on the chin, start small, give what they can to their kids, but do whatever they can to get their children to not believe any of the lies that were taught to them growing up.
There is no great rebound that people are hoping for - the comeback is going to take multiple generations.
Very good explanation. Thanks, I'll discuss it with my daughter. And you are right too about it needing a full overhaul.
Very true. Gay men aren't always the effeminate ones who try to act more like a girl than actual girls do. A heck of a lot of them are the protein drink-guzzling body builder types at the gym.
Nice.
I don't think it's hormones. It's all brainwashing from the cabal to destroy the family and also to destroy men, particularly white men. Also there are links to homosexuality being a product of child sexual abuse.
The people pouring billions of dollars into LGBT propaganda will be in prison. It will still exist but will stop being pushed on us.
Actually a pretty good point. We've seen what's happened with ANTIFA and BLM when their funding dried up. They literally died off within a few months. So stands to reason the same will happen with pretty much every woke liberal agenda when their bank strings get cut.
So true. I hadn't thought about it. We haven't heard from Antifa and BLM for a while. They were probably all shipped to Ukraine to be Nazis.
I just want the word gay back, for crying out loud. In my day, it meant "happy and carefree", nothing more...
You pede, are a gay person.
Thanks fren! I try.
I remember warning people about the "slippery slope" back in 2013. Of course they didn't believe me.
Then 2015 and gay "marriage" came along. Then 2017 and annual gay months and pride parades everywhere came along. Then 2019 and the extreme push for trans pride and trans kids came along. Then 2021 and showing kids porn in school came along, and teaching 5 year olds about sex, how to do anal, how to apply condoms, how to keep it a secret from your parents, how the government would take your children away if you didn't lap up their gay and trans brainwashing from school.
It wasn't a slippery slope. It was a cliff, and the US jumped head first off of it.
To be fair Europe did first
"Bad" how?
i can't believe im becoming this person but... a degenerate society is created by degenerate people
I don't disagree, but the thing about that is how do you actually enforce such a thing if you were to try and prevent or ban it? We can't have cops just busting down peoples doors for being accused of having butt sex. That's basically what the left want with red flag laws.
A good dose of brimstone is needed
I agree. Everyone I’ve met with a warped sexuality (homosexuality, being promiscuous, aggressive pornography use for example) had some sort of childhood trauma that affected how they relate to the opposite or same sex in regards to relationships. Everything is through a sexual lens and not an neutral one. It’s scary how many humans are waking around broken because another abused them.
Without supporting data, this is your opinion. I however have done research and actually talked to people. They had these feelings of attraction at a young age with now previous foul play involved.
While what you claim may not be entirely wrong it is NOT absolutely correct.
What is the homosexual gene called then? If they are born that way they must have a different biology than heterosexual people.
But did they have loving parents from day 1? When a baby boy is born, his eyes are already seeking out his father figure. You may know people who have claimed to have had those feeling from a young age, but did they have single mothers, etc? I know my cousin was not born a lesbian. She got married and really wanted to have children, but the bastard she married really wrecked her. Plus her mom was a cumslut and my uncle divorced her. He wasn't even her true father anyway as she looks nothing like the rest of the family. My ex-aunt was cheating on my uncle behind his back with his "best friend". Now my cousin is "married" to some woman in Texas and won't even reply to my emails.
I was always the person in the room who said things people didn't like. I don't necessarily have a problem with what people do in their bedroom because their bedroom is not my business. I have however, always held the opinion that marriage is a sacrament and therefore no gay people should be married. They should be 'garried'.
The second they got gay marriage there was like 5 articles on it then back to fisting at pride marches and wanting to read "The fat hairy man came to nursery" books to kids of BPD single mothers.
I was fine with gays having civil unions. There was a prop bill to ban gay marriage in Arizona and civil unions, and I voted against it because I don't mind if they have unions. Just don't call it "marriage" and definitely don't let them have children. If gayness is natural, than they wouldn't have the desire to emulate heterosexual behavior and have children. Adoption should be a big no-no, too. Check out "The Boy with the Henna Tattoo" documentary. Sick. Two gays in Australia trafficked their adopted son all over the world to elite pedos. They were raping the boy since he was tiny, so heavy Stockholm Syndrome factored into him being removed from the degenerates.
That's terrible for the boy. I'm torn on the parenting though. It's not the best situation for kids but not all heterosexuals are great parents.
Even though in many ways I do believe that being gay is nature's way of controlling the population, & therefore one could assume nature doesn't want them to procreate; you can't tell a lesbian not to get pregnant.
But if a lesbian is truly a lesbian, she cannot get pregnant through natural means. If it is nature's population control, they shouldn't bring kids into this world. That said, my sister was saying that she knows a family situation in which a druggie mom was fighting for custody of her children who were staying with their lesbian grandmother or aunt or whomever is taking care of the kids. The kids are better off with the lesbo than the tweaker mom. It shows that the lesbian didn't used to be a lesbian. It's mental illness.
I do believe it's nature's way of trying to control the population but I also believe that a lot of people who think that they're homosexual are not but are encouraged to be so because of the society that we're living in. It was just really late and it's a very deep subject that could go on forever...... 😴
Marriage is a religious tradition. It has no place being decided by government and you have no right to decide other people's lives. That is the very basis of totalitarianism.
I can't tell if you're agreeing or disagreeing. I don't think there should be any government. Marriage should be between the church and the people.
Parasite cleanse. I've ready that parasites dictate behavior of their host so they can more easily replicate. Case in point: toxoplasmosis affects rat behavior so they're more easily caught by cats. I've read anecdotal evidence that a good parasite cleanse has eliminated homosexual desires in affected individuals. If true, ivermectin and other anti-helminthic drugs could affect society a lot more than curing covid and cancer...
Using this as a control method is a step in the right direction and something that should be done voluntarily.
Even if we get supporting data, we can't force people to take the drug. That would make us exactly the same as the vaccine pushers. But I do support an initiative to test these theories as long as everyone involved is open minded to the end result: it may not do exactly as you expect and the gays may actually in fact be who they are.
Agreed. And there are NO trans children, just abusive parents and school systems.
I am already FLAMBOYANTLY AGAINST IT
I voted to legalize Gay marriage in Washington State in 2012 hoping that by passing that they would shut the fuck up. Boy was I wrong.
This LGBTQ agenda has infiltrated EVERYTHING. I can barely go anywhere in Western WA without seeing at least one pride flag.
Actually, most of them did. A majority of homos are very much against all the pedo and forced trans gender shit. Your average homo just wants to be treated like a regular ass American. And this might come as a shock, but a lot of them are just that. They are not doing this to offend any God. They are not going out of their way to make you uncomfortable and the ones who are, again, do not represent the sum.
Make sodomy a crime again.
How about instead you move to a country where it already is?
Sure thing groomer. Err I mean Disney.
You aren't being very specific about what you want banned. For the government to ban something, means you get fined or go to prison if you do that thing.
What do you want people fined or imprisoned for? Do you want them punished for "LGBTQ yadda yadda yadda"? How do you envision this being enforced?
With regards to marriages being an official government status:
The government must be involved in marriage because there are basic legal issues there. For example, you and your wife are one before the law. Which means she cannot be compelled to testify against her husband or vice versa.
If there was nothing official about marriage then anybody could say they are married to anybody and use that in court to avoid testifying.
And marriage also changes tax status and so on. It has to be official.
Not really, are we forgetting that up until 2012 all of this crap was illegal in most parts of the country and not socially acceptable. Not hard to revert back to that and tack a few laws banning gay propaganda and restricting activism. Russia, Poland, and Hungary are VERY good examples of how to do this the right way. Kill off the means of it spreading and contain what exists and it will die off on it's own. You can't ban or imprison people for what they do in private, that's a line that shouldn't be crossed. But you can create limits on what is allowed in the general public, and public institutions (colleges, schools, libraries, etc. etc.).
Likewise you can regulate what public corporations are allowed to do as far as donations go. Personally, I believe they shouldn't be allowed to donate to any sort of agenda. All donations should either be general good will (Feed the homeless, build low income housing, clothing for underprivileged children, etc.), or something that will help society as a whole (Medical research, Tesla-ish engineering, etc.).
As for marriage being a legal institution, I understand that. I'm saying it shouldn't be marriage. Call it a legal union if you want, but marriage in and of itself is typically a religious ceremony and shouldn't be beholden to the government. This is how you get scenarios like a pair of gays suing a pastor or preacher because they won't oversee the "wedding". Or bakeries being sued for refusing to bake a wedding cake for a "gay marriage".
This really isn't as hard as people make it out to be. There's precedent in other nations that show how to do it right and how to make it work.
"Love is love" "Diversity is our strength" "All in it together" "Our Democracy" "Nation of Immigrants"
"The government MUST be involved in marriage because they're already involved with marriage and we need them more involved to solve the problems of them being involved." - Lapstrake
This has been going on since the beginning of man.
Over time, our ancestors realized it works the best if these sexual aberrations stay in the closet.
We need to return to that.
Fascist.
Pretty clear the slippery slope was never a fallacy.
Good post.
No it isn't. It's extremely anti-American and anti-freedom.
In a Free country, wielding the ban hammer is another kind of slippery slope.
Freedom of Speech is the most fundamental imo, it allows us to call out the BS, and speak the Truth.
If this entire LGBTQ bs is a 'neurological defect' as you say, then the battlefield is of the mind... not the Law. There is no greater weapon than idealogy.
No matter what we do on this Earth, we will go through this cycle again... and again.
I understand this kind of thinking, but honestly, I'm so sick of it I'm at the point I no longer care. It's that kind of thinking that has got us where we are now. "We can't ban (insert random morally dubious idea) because we're a free country." That's how we started down this slippery slope. It honestly started with Roe V Wade. Oh all of a sudden, now we can kill babies. Then the gay agenda go their way. Suddenly marriage now means nothing. And now look where we are. Transvestites dressed as literal demons reading to 5 year olds and pedophiles openly identifying themselves as "MAP"s while demanding we respect their "rights and freedoms".
Sometimes you have to compromise on things and not be an absolutist, otherwise you get what we're currently dealing with. In an ideal world you'd be right, but we're in a far from ideal world, so we have to make do and make the hard decisions.
Pedophilia is evil, transgenderism is evil, and the root of it all lies in abortion and the gay agenda.
We live in a 'broken' world, one that is constantly sinking, slowly decaying. If the Good people of this world become complacent, the ultimate end-game is decay.
There are nations in the world where everything you say is actually illegal and punishable by death, per their Law ... not a pretty picture imo.
I have the same opinion about people who don't care they're making logical and principles based errors as long as they reach a moral conclusion.
I'm just fucking sick of people making dumb fucking arguments for things they believe when they COULD make good ones that ultimately have a similar conclusion.
A slippy slope implies you SLIPPED DOWN IT.
This country was fucking pushed. Nobody SLIPPED down the slope of the gay agenda.
Nobody SLIPPED down the slope of using FREEDOM to create tyranny.
Pushed. Not slipped. I know you said you have to compromise your values to be realistic.
If ANYONE slipped... it's people like you.
Anyone else was pushed.
The arguments you're making are the same arguments that got us into basically every cabal war of the last 30 years.
There are good arguments that don't require you to compromise your commitment to the truth and your commitment to God that would get you the same resulting conclusions.
And yet you choose to make an argument for the abridgement of freedom of speech instead.
Who slipped?
So by your logic we should allow everyone freedom to believe what they want so long as it doesn't "affect" anyone. Alright, so I suppose so long and the pedophiles don't actually touch a kid we should just let them be then? Or as long as the satanists "satisfy themselves" with animal sacrifices but never cross the human sacrifice boundary they should be left alone as well?
I also suppose you're one of those "freedom of speech" types that believe people should be able to say literally anything without consequence so long as nothing actually happens? I believe the classic example is screaming fire in a theatre? Another example would be to threaten to murder or rape someone but not actually go through with it.
I also noticed you didn't provide any alternative argument that "doesn't require you to compromise your commitment to the truth and your commitment to God that would get you the same resulting conclusions."
So please, do provide such an argument. I'd genuinely like to see it given the faulty logic behind the absolutist stance you seem to hold. Can't wait to see you somehow justify the San Fran gay men's chorus literally singing a "joyful" song about forcibly converting children to homosexuality against their parents will because of "free speech".
Fascist.
Call me what you want but you can't argue my point when there are literal demons preaching propaganda to children and open pedophiles demanding rights. It was a slippery slope from the start. We all said it was. We were ignored, and now here we are. Sometimes you can't be an absolutist otherwise evil people will take advantage of that.
I don't agree with banning things like that.
I care about cancel culture, child abuse and destroying the country for the sake of a small percentage of people.
I literally don't care who you fuck as long as they are a consenting adult. I don't care how two consenting adults choose to fuck either.
I care about my rights being infringed, I care about the safety of children and their future. I do not need to ban them.
Additionally, anyone who isn't a defense attorney trying to ensure that they do their job to clarify the facts for a fair sentencing that defends any behavior putting children at risk needs to be investigated.
I cannot abide pedophilia normalization.
What I would agree with banning is these nude "pride" parades. And also, for a bonus, also ban bringing children to any non-nude adult celebrations. That goes for straight ones too.
Kids don't need to see schlongs and vageen bouncing and giant dildos and shit.
We have common decency laws that prevent this for everyone else, and not for them.
Special privileges or the term "protected class" are inherently an infringement on the rights of everyone else. Equality, not equity. Fuck equity.
ya i know. totally agree. this shit was heinpus 20 years ago and now its starting to become normalized
The push for transgenderism onto the public is so artificially enforced
The sf gay mens choir (the one with sexual predators in it) said it it best when they literally said “we’re coming for your children”
We go back to the beginning.
Adultery is punished by death.
Marriage is permanent. No divorce.
Public decency means no porn of any sort.
That is how you keep the perverts away from your kids.
Events will transpire of such a magnitude & importance that anyone still talking about The Gay by year's end will be looked at as tone deaf & childish.
Woke dies next Spring.
Same with any person with (insert any color that doesn't exist in nature here) hair and maybe the snowflakes would benefit from re-education camps... Get all of the cell or the tumor grows back.
Me and my friends used to have a running joke about "what people do in their own homes"
It started by one person saying "Whatever people want to do in their own homes is not my business"
Then we would keep adding qualifiers like
"Whatever people want do, NO MATTER HOW DISGUSTING, is not our business"
So we keep topping eachother an after a while it becomes something like
"No mater what people do, dont care how disugsting, how repulsive and sick , don matter if god should strke them down, dont matter if they would be shunned by everyone if they knew, dont matter if they would be kicked onto a deserted island and huned like prey......etc.....that is their business"
You aren't getting rid of gay people. They've been around since ancient Greece, at least. You aren't removing them from the culture as even when they were forced into the closet they were some of the most influential cultural icons we had.
The problem isn't gay people. Even many of them are saying this shit is way off the deep end. Also most don't identify with the trans movement because they are entirely different issues.
Ask yourself why a sexual desire movement ended up tied to a sexual identity one even though they have no obvious connection beyond being oppressed. IMO, it's just as Tucker talked about last week. When gay marriage was made legal suddenly a bunch of NGOs no longer had an objective. There were no anti-gay laws, they could get married and it seemed all of that was behind us. But those people still want their paychecks and don't want to end the grift so they need to find a new group.
The problem is an incentive one. The problem is the free money coming from the government and the influence all that money can buy. If money was a representation of real value then stuff like this would have a hard time getting funded.
You need to change the culture of victimhood which makes people want to donate to this shit. Meaning we need to create people who reward those who overcome their hardships rather than pride themselves on being broken and helpless.
We also need to stop the government debasing all of our hard work by taking the representation of our value, our money supply, and giving it to these pet projects which work to further each other's goals. The NGO gets the money and the politician gets the vote. That's assuming there aren't more nefarious intentions like the theories of intentional depopulation through pushing trans and gay movements.
I'm not gay/trans, I don't have any in my life, I have no dog in that fight. I just don't see anything getting better by shoving them back into the closet only to deal with them wanting revenge again at a later date putting us in this endless cycle of taking revenge on each other and forgetting how we got there.
Change the incentives that create this destructive nonsense rather than attack the people who are mostly just puppets of self interested, greedy, fucking monsters.
Of course we're not going to get rid of gay people, there have been gays since the dawn of time. I don't disagree with most of what you said, but you'd be a fool to ignore history. Every single time in history that a nation comes to "accept" this kind of thing it leads to moral degradation and eventually they either completely collapse (ala ancient greece and rome), or some kind of political revolution with immense consequences (The Weimar Republic and Nazi Germany).
History repeats itself and its not hard to see the pattern.
Then bringing gay people away from the bath houses into marriage is a way to stop that degradation. Converting them to a more respectable lifestyle will have better results than trying to force them to not be part of society.
And yet, since gay marriage was legalized and not just "accepted" but forced down the throats of people, we've continued to degrade to the point we now have trannies dressed as demons preaching propaganda to children, open pedophiles demanding we "respect their rights" in the form of "MAP"s, and gay choirs openly singing about forcibly converting straight peoples children to homosexuality against the will of their parents.
Yeah, that worked out "so well".
Taking it back won't make things better. Also, the gay scene did improve. We now see gay couples acting the same as nuclear families. The more wild aspects of gay culture is going away in favor of more traditional lifestyles.
The people who are trying to make MAP a thing are trying to hijack that movement. The more degenerate gays from the 80s and 90s were working really hard to stop the association between gays and pedophilia. There's many today who are enraged that people who claim to be in their camp are bringing back those associations they fought so hard to break.
I not only understand your rage, I share it but I just don't think beating up on the gay community, trying to undo gay marriage or shove them back into the closet will have any positive effects.
Assimilation is what made Irish and Italians go from comparable to black people to just like every other white person. You're more likely to reach your objectives making gay people more like you than pushing them back to the fringes. The problem we have is incentives and bad people, who probably live traditional lives themselves, in control.
I honestly don't care about LGBTQLMNOP+++ shit tbh, I just want the child grooming to end. what started off as people asking to not be hated for a feeling that's beyond their control was corrupted into a means to exploit children. THAT'S the problem.
"Congress shall make no laws respecting an establishment of religion..."
We are NOT a Christian nation. If we were, we'd be under the Torah, but we're not. We're under the Constitution which guarantees all citizens their right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, a pursuit that you nor any of the other faggotty ass closeted anti-American fascists get to deicide. If you don't want to see it, turn off your TV. If you don't want to be around it, then figure out something in your community.
But if you truly stand for America and freedom, then you need to learn to overcome the issue in a more respectful and tolerant way. Shame and making rules only bolsters people's resistance and breeds more rebellion and division, whereas talking to our neighbors and finding common ground will help heal us as a whole and bring us to a better tomorrow.
You need to stop associating pedophilia with sexual degeneracy. They are not the same. Pedophilia is not a sexual desire, it is an evil affliction that some people have to overcome. But it is NOT a result of degeneracy. It is rape plain and simple. You are playing into the normalization by calling it a mere sexual desire when it is not. Sexual degeneracy at it's worst is sinful. Harming children is evil. And no sin does not equal evil. Never has. This is a key detail that a lot of people have been indoctrinated to view as the same thing when they most certainly are not. There is forgiveness for our sins and consenting adults wallowing in sin is their business. Again, you are helping the normalization of pedophilia by linking the two. Unlike you, I have actually talked to homos and so far ALL of them agree the pedophilia is wrong and gross and those who engage in it need to be punished hard. Stop trying to control people. You sound no different than a leftist totalitarian with your rhetoric. Talk to your neighbors and focus on uniting. As friendly reminder, Jesus said to love our enemies and what you are doing is the opposite.
"Tolerance" is what got us where we are now. Or are we just going to ignore that? Besides, the fact you started out with "We are NOT a Christian nation" shows your ignorance of American history, but for the sake of a neutral argument, I won't go into this from a religious perspective. Rather, I'll take a historical one.
Acceptance of morally degenerate behavior, specifically homosexuality and all of it's derivatives, is almost always a sign of a nation nearing it's lifespan. When things like homosexuality start being openly accepted, one of two things almost always happen to a nation. It either collapses soon after, or it experiences a revolution of some sort. The ancient Greeks and the Roman Empire are the obvious low hanging fruit given they both collapsed and are semi-well known for this, but I'll pick a different, more recent historical example.
The Weimar Republic and Nazi Germany. Post WW I, Germany was basically experiencing EXACTLY what we are now. Incompetent liberal government pushing every possible agenda while ignoring their own citizens, overprinting of the Mark to create hyper inflation, and finally creating policies that supported the moral degradation of society starting with, you guessed it, open acceptance of homosexuality and transgenderism. In fact, the first gender reassignment surgery was performed in the Weimar republic.
This is just one of many factors that led to the rise of Hitler. The people of Germany rejected the overt moral degeneracy being forced upon them. Of course I'm vastly oversimplifying but its not like I can write an entire novel in this one post. But my point stands. Even if you're not religious, there's a historical context for this, and those that don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.