Better yet, how did the shooter get into the building.....with the cops in pursuit, who then themselves were locked out of the building for almost an hour and didn’t have a key?
????????????
Commercial SS doors of the types used in schools and municipal buildings require a key to both lock and unlock them....? How were the cops locked out if the shooter had just entered before them reaching the door?
This is what I have been puzzled about as well. He supposedly goes online and says he's going to kill his grandmother and then go shoot up a school. He posts on social media that he just killed his grandmother and is on his way to the school. Local law enforcement engage him in a shoot out outside the school yet Somehow he is Able to not just enter the school but a classroom as well? I am sorry but either local cops are idiots for engaging a shooter outside an elementary school yet Not ensuring the school was Completely locked down beforehand. If they did then Someone with Knowledge of the Incoming shooter had to not just let him in but guide him to the clasand FBI sroom of choice. IMHO- the shooter was killed Before he could make it to the school and just like parkland, someone else already inside the school did the shooting. The patsy was already dead before Any child was shot. And who knows, maybe he fought against the programming and didn't kill his grandmother so they killed them both then and FBI carried out the who thing?
If they were in a gun fight with this person, why wouldn't they have put themselves between the shooter and the school? You know, like you would do to protect the ones incapable of protecting themselves? This thing GLOWS so hard.
his grandfather says the kid didn't know how to drive or have license, that someone would have had to take the kid to buy the guns and train to use them.
"The parents of a severely mentally disabled man are speaking out on how the FBI groomed him as a right-wing terrorist, knowing he’s a paranoid schizophrenic...."
"....the FBI gave our son the means to make this happen. He has no job, no money, no vehicle, and no driver’s license....The FBI came and picked him up from our home, they gave him a vehicle, gave him a fake bomb, and every means to make this happen none of which he had access to on his own..."
Did you see the pictures of the fedbois that perpetrated the Gretchen Witchmer abduction hoax? None of them look like stable individuals. The FBI looks for these types to groom.
could you let me know where you heard this info? not that I necessarily doubt the veracity, I just want to tell some friends. it can be "some thread on /pol/" or similar.
Whats truly puzzling are the reports that the cops waited an hour before they went into the school. If they engaged him outside first, then why let him in, and not pursue him inside, and then let him remain for an hour inside. Sounds like they were given a stand down order.
That’s what I want to know. I think the more and more I look at it... he was a cartel thug and someone paid him to shoot up the school. You know who I mean.
I saw a comment on pol yesterday that said the school was all kids of ICE/BP agents and that this was a cartel hit.... there was, of course, no source to any of this, but I found it interesting that it was Border Patrol that entered the building and ended all this. It would also make more sense as to how the 18 year old got the expensive weapons, ammo and body armor.
Yes. Locally all school doors are locked and visitors have to press a button and be let in by the front office. Even once they are let in the only place they have access to is the front office, all other doors remain locked. There are security cameras everywhere as well as armed resource officers.
Insider help. If we dig deep, I bet that law enforcement is involved somehow, either FBI, Border Patrol, local police, school security or a little of all the above.
There is also video of inside a classroom of a school...kids just sitting up against the wall and the teacher sitting on a chair in the middle of the class on his computer like it is a normal drill. You would think there would be mass hysteria, especially since I’m sure no matter where you are in that school you would be hearing gunshots echoing
There is also the conflicting report that as soon as he got onto the grounds someone popped him before he even got off a single shot. Almost like they were waiting on him.
If you can find the clip online, be sure to save it off-line. They always let a little too much truth out at first, that gets memory holed really fast.
He was allowed to enter the building. Spent the last 14 years of my career installing these secure entry doors and portals in schools across five states. There are NO provisions to allow keeping a door unlocked or holding it open. They are not considered fire exits and never have panic push bars. Many are electronic locksets with only a push/pull and unkeyed and often with additional mag-locks through bolted in the frame. Most were monitored triple security test controlled entry points. After entering the vestibule in a glass front facility you must gain security approval to be allowed to proceed. If approved you may be buzzed in to reception and continue with security checks. If you are a known non-threat (teacher returning to campus) you can be buzzed in directly to the corridor through the next set of impact resistant glass doors. Had the monitors exited the reception area through their reception counter side door, the assailant would have had to fire repeatedly into the corridor entry doors until the impact resistant glass failed. All this with armed cops on site? IMO this was allowed to occur.
In fairness, on this particular day my sons school was having an end of the year wrap up party with an awards ceremony, everything was crazy and people were roaming in and out. This is not a regular school week in Texas
I went through the same scenario this week at my grandchildren's school. Awards and field day. My local conditions may be different than yours. Two armed officers on site, not a gun free zone and I guarantee many of the attendants were armed or had access to a defense tool. I do know Grandmother and Father were packing. In my part of the world arming yourself is like putting on your glasses or sticking a ball point pen in your shirt pocket.
Could someone inside have opened a door? Shades of Jan. 6...crooked cops... also isn’t it funny how mass shootings increase when a Dem is in charge? They think we’re stupid...
Did it ever cross anyone's mind that they said police pursued him because the deep state thought it sounded good? Then once they realized things were locked and their was push back, they had to backtrack the pursuit story. Why were they even "pursuing" him in the first place? Even if you always speed, it usually takes a months of speeding before you get caught. Even if you have a gun in your trunk a cop isn't going to know from you driving around. They won't even know if they pull you over for a simple traffic violation if you don't tell them. The whole pursuit side of the story makes no sense.
It's seems like when their is a shooting, the deep state throws shit against the wall. If it seems like it's not sticking or is contradictory, they just say that detail was unconfirmed or they completely write the detail out and act like it never happened. At that point they may keep what their left with or they might add a new detail or 2 to help spin their new "refined" narrative.
REALLY good question!! It was a set up, fren. They gave the freak his truck, the guns and ammo, and maybe a couple of miniskirts, and let him rip. Probably was getting VoG instructions along the way.
The husband of one of the teachers died a day after this incident, of a heart attack. No idea how common that is after having your world shattered but it seems pretty suspect.
Methinks you need a certain age to get that reference... :)
Funny you should mention this now. They're still getting it, but at this point it's mostly the memes that keep it relevant.
Probably; those who don't can google.
Or better still they can yandex.
Better yet, how did the shooter get into the building.....with the cops in pursuit, who then themselves were locked out of the building for almost an hour and didn’t have a key?
????????????
Commercial SS doors of the types used in schools and municipal buildings require a key to both lock and unlock them....? How were the cops locked out if the shooter had just entered before them reaching the door?
Lol Columbo was one of the first detective shows I watched as a kid, and my Grandpa and I would watch Quincy.
This reminds me of 9/11 so much chaos and misdirection.
Jackie Chan Adventures uncle?
Would've been criminal if no one mentioned Jackie Chan Adventures
Columbo and Rockford Files are two of my favorite shows all time. Throw in Magnum PI, The A-Team and Breaking Bad.
How did he have a shoot out with police near the school and the school not be alerted. I remember going on lockdowns just for robberies near by.
This is what I have been puzzled about as well. He supposedly goes online and says he's going to kill his grandmother and then go shoot up a school. He posts on social media that he just killed his grandmother and is on his way to the school. Local law enforcement engage him in a shoot out outside the school yet Somehow he is Able to not just enter the school but a classroom as well? I am sorry but either local cops are idiots for engaging a shooter outside an elementary school yet Not ensuring the school was Completely locked down beforehand. If they did then Someone with Knowledge of the Incoming shooter had to not just let him in but guide him to the clasand FBI sroom of choice. IMHO- the shooter was killed Before he could make it to the school and just like parkland, someone else already inside the school did the shooting. The patsy was already dead before Any child was shot. And who knows, maybe he fought against the programming and didn't kill his grandmother so they killed them both then and FBI carried out the who thing?
They say he shot her in the forehead but she survived. Wonder what the odds are on that'n.
The only person I think who would survive such a shot would be Biden, since there's nothing in there anyhow.
He's all skull and no brain lol
Lol... true
I’ve had patients shot in the head and survive, point blank in the eye. Blew out the orbit but the bullet stayed intact.
Not with a rifle though.
With a AR-15 chambered in 5.56 nato, it seems to be almost non existent.
If they were in a gun fight with this person, why wouldn't they have put themselves between the shooter and the school? You know, like you would do to protect the ones incapable of protecting themselves? This thing GLOWS so hard.
THEY were just following orders. Always the same lame ass excuses from the gubmit.
his grandfather says the kid didn't know how to drive or have license, that someone would have had to take the kid to buy the guns and train to use them.
Huh! Sounds an awful lot like this 2017 news report:
Parents Catch FBI In Plot To Force Mentally Ill Son To Be A Right Wing Terrorist
https://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/parents-catch-fbi-plot-force-mentally-ill-son-right-wing-terrorist/
Here's an excerpt:
"The parents of a severely mentally disabled man are speaking out on how the FBI groomed him as a right-wing terrorist, knowing he’s a paranoid schizophrenic...."
"....the FBI gave our son the means to make this happen. He has no job, no money, no vehicle, and no driver’s license....The FBI came and picked him up from our home, they gave him a vehicle, gave him a fake bomb, and every means to make this happen none of which he had access to on his own..."
There's that mental deficiencies popping up again. I wonder if he was on psychotropic drugs.
Did you see the pictures of the fedbois that perpetrated the Gretchen Witchmer abduction hoax? None of them look like stable individuals. The FBI looks for these types to groom.
This can't be true. The FBI is full of good guys. Wink, wink.
18-year old who does not drive?
That's rare.
Especially if he owns an F-250.
Adds more the the pile of bullshit in this story.
could you let me know where you heard this info? not that I necessarily doubt the veracity, I just want to tell some friends. it can be "some thread on /pol/" or similar.
I found this article which has this statement at the end of the article:
"His grandson did not know how to drive and did not have a driver's license, said Reyes, who said he was unsure how Ramos had purchased the weapons."
https://abcnews.go.com/US/texas-school-shooting-suspects-grandfather-speaks/story?id=84966002
thanks a lot, much appreciated and archived.
https://archive.ph/m4CMa
reported from an interview with the grandfather. have not seen a video of interview firsthand though.
Bigger question is how did he get into the Country? Illegal Alien you say? The Dems own this one too!
Whats truly puzzling are the reports that the cops waited an hour before they went into the school. If they engaged him outside first, then why let him in, and not pursue him inside, and then let him remain for an hour inside. Sounds like they were given a stand down order.
the donuts hadn't arrived yet. Can't start a tactical rescue without carb loading.
The Capitol Police let him in.
Does anybody else read that as the state taking away your kids and locking them up for 6hrs a day?
Sounds like a prison to me.
That’s what I want to know. I think the more and more I look at it... he was a cartel thug and someone paid him to shoot up the school. You know who I mean.
I saw a comment on pol yesterday that said the school was all kids of ICE/BP agents and that this was a cartel hit.... there was, of course, no source to any of this, but I found it interesting that it was Border Patrol that entered the building and ended all this. It would also make more sense as to how the 18 year old got the expensive weapons, ammo and body armor.
Yes. Locally all school doors are locked and visitors have to press a button and be let in by the front office. Even once they are let in the only place they have access to is the front office, all other doors remain locked. There are security cameras everywhere as well as armed resource officers.
If this actually happened and we're not getting fed a bunch of bullshit, he was probably LET IN BY THE FBI.
Insider help. If we dig deep, I bet that law enforcement is involved somehow, either FBI, Border Patrol, local police, school security or a little of all the above.
Know what else has secured entry with ID check, limited visiting hours, perimeter fence, security cameras, every door locked, and armed guards?
Prison
There is also video of inside a classroom of a school...kids just sitting up against the wall and the teacher sitting on a chair in the middle of the class on his computer like it is a normal drill. You would think there would be mass hysteria, especially since I’m sure no matter where you are in that school you would be hearing gunshots echoing
Any chance you have a link to that video?
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There is also the conflicting report that as soon as he got onto the grounds someone popped him before he even got off a single shot. Almost like they were waiting on him.
On the very first local news they said he was killed in the parking lot. That was never reported again. Wtf
If you can find the clip online, be sure to save it off-line. They always let a little too much truth out at first, that gets memory holed really fast.
He was allowed in.
He was allowed to enter the building. Spent the last 14 years of my career installing these secure entry doors and portals in schools across five states. There are NO provisions to allow keeping a door unlocked or holding it open. They are not considered fire exits and never have panic push bars. Many are electronic locksets with only a push/pull and unkeyed and often with additional mag-locks through bolted in the frame. Most were monitored triple security test controlled entry points. After entering the vestibule in a glass front facility you must gain security approval to be allowed to proceed. If approved you may be buzzed in to reception and continue with security checks. If you are a known non-threat (teacher returning to campus) you can be buzzed in directly to the corridor through the next set of impact resistant glass doors. Had the monitors exited the reception area through their reception counter side door, the assailant would have had to fire repeatedly into the corridor entry doors until the impact resistant glass failed. All this with armed cops on site? IMO this was allowed to occur.
So like Jan 6 then...
Just like Jan 6th.
Yes, keep questioning.
me thinks we should go back to the video tapes... certainly they have them... we may find some "helpers" from one of the alphabet agencies!
In fairness, on this particular day my sons school was having an end of the year wrap up party with an awards ceremony, everything was crazy and people were roaming in and out. This is not a regular school week in Texas
I went through the same scenario this week at my grandchildren's school. Awards and field day. My local conditions may be different than yours. Two armed officers on site, not a gun free zone and I guarantee many of the attendants were armed or had access to a defense tool. I do know Grandmother and Father were packing. In my part of the world arming yourself is like putting on your glasses or sticking a ball point pen in your shirt pocket.
The official statement on this is that he entered peacefully and without gun fire after being confronted by an armed SRO.
The unofficial statement is that he shot out the glass after a firefight outside the school.
I don't know why the media and government are lying, but they for sure are.
Could someone inside have opened a door? Shades of Jan. 6...crooked cops... also isn’t it funny how mass shootings increase when a Dem is in charge? They think we’re stupid...
Gasp! It was the lockpicking lawyer!
19 students and 2 teachers killed. Well, that's all I have for you today.
Did it ever cross anyone's mind that they said police pursued him because the deep state thought it sounded good? Then once they realized things were locked and their was push back, they had to backtrack the pursuit story. Why were they even "pursuing" him in the first place? Even if you always speed, it usually takes a months of speeding before you get caught. Even if you have a gun in your trunk a cop isn't going to know from you driving around. They won't even know if they pull you over for a simple traffic violation if you don't tell them. The whole pursuit side of the story makes no sense.
It's seems like when their is a shooting, the deep state throws shit against the wall. If it seems like it's not sticking or is contradictory, they just say that detail was unconfirmed or they completely write the detail out and act like it never happened. At that point they may keep what their left with or they might add a new detail or 2 to help spin their new "refined" narrative.
REALLY good question!! It was a set up, fren. They gave the freak his truck, the guns and ammo, and maybe a couple of miniskirts, and let him rip. Probably was getting VoG instructions along the way.
I read that the door to the school was unlocked. How convenient.....
The husband of one of the teachers died a day after this incident, of a heart attack. No idea how common that is after having your world shattered but it seems pretty suspect.
https://nypost.com/2022/05/26/husband-of-irma-garcia-slain-in-texas-school-shooting-dies-of-grief/