Angels and Extraterrestrials are the same thing.
That is to say, the forces that be are more Extra-dimensional rather than Extra-terrestrial.
Spirits and Aliens are the same entities.
But there is some distinction between the two, which has been carefully curated by popular culture to remove God from the equation.
Let's get this out of the way.
Angels, Spirits, and Elementals...
All of these things exist, but not in the way Hollywood and Fantasy tales would have you believe.
Aliens were crafted specifically to offer a Hollywood "reboot" of the Angel IP.
A reboot without the notion of a Loving Creator at the helm of the design.
Basically, imagine what Star Wars would be like without the Force as a pivotal character in the story. Actually, that's not hard to imagine because the Prequals and Sequels basically account the Force not as a unifying presence that binds all things but a magic power that lets you use telekinesis and have a spidey sense.
No...
Angels and Demons are real, but they've been grafted with certain stereotypes through our literature that make them seem more romantic fantasy than reality. Aliens have likewise been grafted with science fantasy stereotypes.
What Spirits and Aliens fundamentally represent is uncovered by crossing the two and seeing which tropes are carried by both. Therein lies the true presence of otherworldly beings.
For example, Spirits (Angels and Demons) and Aliens both do the following:
- They abduct/possess people.
- They plant messages in your mind.
- They allegedly guide nature with an invisible hand.
- They can fly.
- They are not of our Earthly world.
- They take on many unsettling forms.
- Allegedly, some are good and some are bad.
That's the color and flavor of the entities we're talking about. Capisce?
So, what does this have to do with the Great Awakening?
There's your tie-in, but it goes deeper.
In this next section I will do my best to describe to you what Angels really are as compared to Humans.
Humans and Angels are administrators of God's Creation. Rather, we are Movers -- Things that Do. We have our own agency and can make decisions in this grand thing called Life that impacts others.
Some call this Free Will, and I'd agree with that base interpretation.
But it goes deeper than just being able to make decisions.
God didn't just make us deciders. He made us Creators.
We are Garden Tenders. We tend to the Garden of Eden God crafted for us. For what purpose? What other purpose than His incalculable Love for us? A Love we would say is so foolhardy as to be flawed by our limited understanding of the World.
God wants us Doing. Doing what? Doing what he did -- Create things.
Go forth and multiply!
This includes the Spirits.
But, there is a distinction in their abilities/capacities versus ours.
While they have a more Celestial vantage point, they lack the ability to impact the physical realm directly. Another way to put it is that they are "timeless" aka "immortal."
You see, mortality is Man's greatest strength. The limited nature of time and physical capacity means we have to pick and choose what to do with our lives.
Which can be interpreted as the idiom "The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long."
We, among all of God's Movers, are the most powerful in terms of authority.
To put it in terms of programming, Angels/Demons can read and write in a programming language, like C#, C++, Python, Java, HTML, CSS, etc. while Humans can interact with the code in raw 0's and 1's.
Effectively, we can read and write in the world with 0's and 1's in a language that directly affects the veritable DNA of the Physical World. Meanwhile, Angels and Demons have to use a compiler in order to convert their intent into executable commands by the Computer(Universe).
Another way to put it is that we are like the individual cells of the body while Angels/Demons are the conscious mind of the body. They have as much power over you as you have over your kidney cells. Short of ripping you out of your natural environment at great risk to their own safety and scrambling your DNA, they have no direct control over what you do. In fact, they can barely fathom how such a tiny thing can perform so many microscopic roles so flawlessly.
This is why Angels/Demons cannot fathom sarcasm or memes. They take everything so literally, because they cannot discern what minor processes your life entails. They see things in such a larger scope (the big picture) that they view us all at best as a wondrous mystery and at worst a lesser form of life meant only to be conquered.
Therein lies the crux of their obsessions. You see, Love aspires where Evil obsesses.
The reason Cabal members are obsessed with genetics and the like is because they wish to conquer the cellular level just as the Demons wish to conquer the Human realm. They drank the Demon's koolaide and believe that they can become like "them" if they operate in the same way as "them." "Them" being their false gods.
It goes back to the Devil's "Promise" to Eve.
You can be like God, but without God.
Their aim is to control and corral us, the "cattle", like our terrestrial geneticists seek to control DNA.
They want the Skeleton Key to God's Mansion.
And it's only through us "lesser" beings that they can acquire the tools to chop up the DNA of the Universe as they see fit.
Just like in programming, the ability to alter the 0's and 1's AT RUN TIME, and have it make sense, is an unfathomably powerful position. They account such power to BE GOD and must only claim the Throne in order to "acquire" God.
The Demons see us as little bugs or cells marching along performing our duties, but they have no compassion or respect of the Role God gave us to perform as Movers in his Garden.
This is how the Demons see us.
Angels, however, respect and honor us as the imperative components of the Natural Order that we are. They recognize that WE are the catalysts for God's Plan, and to alter our seemingly chaotic and random course is the same as attempting to alter God's Plan for Creation -- a profane blasphemy, to be sure.
Angels, therefore, are Conservationists -- seeking to maintain the Natural world and let God's will be done through a temperate hand of control making sure the little bugs, germs, and animals of the world don't burn it down, not out of malice but out of hazardous curiosity.
I hope this mad man's rambling finds you well.
I'm tapped out. This has taken nearly all the creative energy I have left. I feel as though my recharge cord has been cut and I'm operating on reserve power now.
Every time I write one of these types of reflections up it drains me. I write as though I'm interpreting something being dictated to me from beyond. I often read it back over with little memory of it coming out of me. I guess that's how I know I'm doing the right thing, aye?
Anyways... I'd ask for some prayers be thrown my way if you have time. I'm not sure what's going on behind the veil, but I'm sure there are many angry spirits who would prefer I shut up at this pivotal juncture.
God bless.
Well explained. Put on the whole armour of God, keep praising - specially when under attack. Remember that nothing happens without God's permission, and we can unwittingly give permission to the enemy when we err/sin. Too many Christians blame the devil when they should be asking what needs to be repented of and what doorways have been opened. When the Lord shows me I repent, ask for all satanic influence/control to be removed and for that doorway to be closed and sealed with the Blood of Jesus for all eternity.
May the Lord, strengthen, uphold, protect and guide you; may His love and peace be upon you. The joy of the Lord is our strength!
You have a prayer from me. It's tiring work, but it matters alot.
May my upvotes recharge you fren!
Praise be to God! Thank you for this sleepydude. This is a great explanation.
Good writeup, thank you for your effort!
The one place I disagree is with "Another way to put it is that we are like the individual cells of the body while Angels/Demons are the conscious mind of the body. They have as much power over you as you have over your kidney cells. Short of ripping you out of your natural environment at great risk to their own safety and scrambling your DNA, they have no direct control over what you do. "
This does not seem to me to account for demonic possession of individuals not indwelt with the Holy Spirit.
This tactic by demons is not utilized more for three reasons I can think of - in western culture it is generally more effective to lead astray by keeping the spiritual within the realm of fantasy; and in non western cultures, people still have to open themselves up to possession, and there has to be an end goal to the possession.
Often it is more effective to a demons cause to utilize suggestion and lies than an out of control experience which often leads to host life changes.
I agree with your criticism.
Pay attention, however, to this distinction.
My point is that we make up the Body of the Universe while they make up the "Mind" of the Universe. God alone has full domain over the Soul of the Universe.
It's equally as profane for them to alter us and our composition as it is for us to tear off our tits and genitals in an effort to "convert" our bodies to another sex.
While they can manually attempt to alter us and turn us into abominations, they can only do so at great risk to the Universe they, too, inhabit. More importantly, they cannot succeed in their endeavors. Just because you alter the genetics/mind of a lesser being doesn't mean you actually control what you altered; just because you wish for the Truth to bend to your will does not make it so.
Mary Shelley wrote a very important work concerning that sentiment. Frankenstein's monster, from the book not the movie, was torn with his purpose in life and angered at his creator for abandoning him.
https://www.sparknotes.com/lit/frankenstein/quotes/character/the-monster/
Her suggestion is that monkeying with Life will only result in the creation of vindictive monsters whose aim is to undo all that you have to your name. Should one attempt to pervert God's Creation to suit their own fancy, then they open a door from which they birth their own undoing. The monstrous form our profane creations take on are abominations even to us because they are not of God's will but our own Pride in trying to "acquire" God. We are slated to reject anything that goes against God because it is naturally revolting and in turn it will reject us for withholding the only Love it could possibly entertain, as God knows it not and you its Creator will have cast it out.
This is the connection I meant to create with Angel's and Demons being like the conscious mind. By corrupting us they substantially risk their own place in Creation just as we would risk our own wellbeing should we seek to chop off organs or genetically alter ourselves to become "like a god" over our physical reality.
Yes, when I really internalized "there is nothing good apart from God" I understood that no matter what they do, it leads to ruin for them too. Their separation from God and ability to act as they wish is a punishment for them into itself. They can't even really do what they want without hurting themselves long term.
You have identified the tragedy of the transhumanists, who believe an AI shell will still be them, but in reality it will only pretend without a spirit, or even possibly reject them and rise up as a "superior being."
I will say I want to add that angels and demons are not the sole spiritual beings (I believe you know this but stating for others) - we have a spirit too that operates and exists separate from the physical. This is part of the reason we can, for example, be repulsed by our own actions after we are no longer drunk. The core of who we are, can disagree with the bodily impairment. There is a reason people used to call alcohol "spirits."
Aliens are fallen angels disguised as extraterrestrial beings. Demons are spirits of the nephilim who were made of flesh but their souls were immortal due to them being hybrids.
All of our souls are immortal.
Not unless one believes in Christ.
Your soul will still be immortal, it will just have a very bad time in Hell probably, it won't perish it will suffer.
There are definitely different factions of entities. Some malevolent, some benevolent. That would explain the slit of angels and demons.
My assessment is that the "greys" are essentially drones or avatars that the entities use to interact physically with our dimension.
But you see a lot of UFO activity around areas where dark occultists practice Enochian magic, which would pull energies from another dimension into ours. So that leads more evidence to your supposition. Crowley and Parsons were involved in workings that preceded a lot of UFO activity.
Do you have a description of Enochian magic? And what sort of things it Crowley and Parsons do that preceded UFO activity? I'm rather curious what sorts of stuff that could be.
Here is a little info on Enochian magic: https://occult-world.com/enochian-magic/
Their Babylon workings, Homonculus workings, and Parson's work on jet propulsion we're all surrounded by UFO reports. Jimmy Paige bought the house that Crowley owned on Loch Ness that burned down twice, and there were always a ton of sightings around there.
I enjoyed the read. Thanks pede.
For a truly scholarly explanation I suggest reading or viewing the work of Dr Michael Heiser. This guy not only translates ancient languages he contextualizes the meaning. He’s also written some pretty compelling works of “fiction”.
Quality reading material.
There are a few of us around these parts. 😉
To each their own interpretation. But one human being's stated beliefs are not "the last word", of course. Our efforts at greater understanding contain both truth and speculation. A person who can use prayer to run theories by a higher power and receive confirmation would be very fortunate.
Since none of us have actually seen Angels, Demons, or ETs, I hold a fair amount of skepticism that they are all the same. Do ETs exist? I'm sure of that, even though I've never seen one, I have however seen UFOs. Are Angels and Demons real? I'm sure of that, as my Faith in God says they're real, not stories from a collection of writings called the Bible.
That being said, do I believe they are all th same entities? No, no I do not. Are there extra dimensional beings? Yes. Angels and Demons qualify as such. BUT, there are likely to be extra dimensional beings that are purely terrestrial in nature, and have no metaphysical powers like Angels and Demons possess.
Saying all of these different types of entities are the same is a juvenile attempt at understanding something that, for right now, is not understandable. A physical reptilian species inhabiting THIS REALM, the 3rd Dimension so to speak, ARE NOT THE SAME AS DEMONS INHABITING THE LOWER VIBRATIONAL DIMENSIONS. Not are Light Working beings inhabiting the realm the same as Angels inhabiting the higher vibrational dimensions.
They can't be the same because it takes way too much physical energy for a demon to physically inhabit this realm. This is why they feed on the negative emotions to a point where they become strong enough to only move pictures off of walls, or turn electrical devices on/off, or can only inhabit those people who are filled with negative emotional energy. If demons could physically inhabit their realm, there wouldn't be a need for such chicanery.
Likewise, it takes less energy for Angels to inhabit this relam, as they primarily reside in the higher vibrational realms. This is why they are better able to work God's miracles on His behalf whereas we are not and need physical tools like Moses' staff, Hermes' Asclepius, and certain visual and audiological symbology to work the same sort of "majiks."
There are tons of people who have worked in the various national govts of the World who say that there are extra dimensional beings and extra terrestrial beings that are fighting for both sides in this war.
Do not mistake things and say that they are all the same. There are very clear distinctions between these three types of entities. Saying they're all the same is like saying Homo Sapiens, Homo Erectis, Homo Neanderthalensis, and Homo Habilis are all the same, when clearly, we are NOT the same as the other 3 now extinct Homie species.
I agree, but this also means not all of them follow the same rules.
They all have "bodies" but not as we think of them.
Make sure not to fall into the traps of Hollywood or mainstream Religious tropes about them.
Instead, think of them as having different "vessels" by which they can interact with the physical world. If the physical world were land, then we humans would all be carts, carriages, wagons, tanks, cars, etc.
Spirits, however, would be like ships.
The vast majority of ships cannot move onto land and must stay in their element where rudders and sails can actually be used to navigate.
But there are some ships that can bridge that gap. I'd classify the physical aliens in this category. Some may call them "alien hybrids" but that's too mainstream for my liking.
Instead, it's like amphibious beings being able to interact on land or by water, but ultimately they have a limited scope in which they can operate because of their nature. A frog, for instance, must always hover around a water source, otherwise they will perish. That this occurs in nature is the basis of my confidence in their categorizable characteristics. It's only natural that aliens/angels too can fulfill similar niches in the Spiritual as we understand in the Physical.
That means, however, that these "hybrids" too must stay at arms length from us humans, though they are demonstrably more physical than the typical "angelic" phenotype. If they get too close to humans they risk being separated too far from their water source, and therefore cut off from the "ethereal" realm.
I'm sure you can think of a ton of movies which explore that plot, right?
All this said, if we are like land vessels and they are like sea vessels, then what of the vessels of the air and even space beyond?
Are their aliens for these aliens?
Is that the gap between Extra-Terrestrial and Extra-Dimensional as we know it?
Perhaps that's the distinction you are wishing to draw between aliens and spirits?
It's clear that you have thought a lot about this, or have been gifted with a deeper understanding of this topic than most, and I greatly appreciate that you put in the effort to share this information and your perspective with the rest of us.
God bless you, fren. ❤
I find it hard to believe--based on my belief in Bible truths--that aliens exist.
Why? Because "alien" interactions are well-documented, enough to believe in other-worldly contacts/interaction/communication based on testimony of diverse groups over long periods of time.
BUT, the Bible explicitly describes man, God, angels and demons...their nature, how man is to interact or not interact, etc....but NEVER mentions aliens.
Anyone who views the Bible as true, but allows for "aliens" is not thinking logically. Why would the Bible give us all sorts of info, warnings, restrictions about angles and demons, but never mention aliens? The logical conclusion--IF you accept the Bible as being true, is that "aliens" are yet another disguise of demons.
The lack of info about aliens in the Bible suggests that there aren't any.
The description of demons in the Bible allows for the deceptive disguise of demons as aliens.
Aliens are fallen angels disguised as extraterrestrial beings. Different name, same creature.
100%.
Wasn’t OP kinda saying aliens, the actual word “aliens” is just made up by man to replace Angels and Demons. Which is why the Bible doesn’t mention it. Satan doing his thing.
Overall OP has done deep thoughts. And could definitely be on to some things. And that’s cool. I personally don’t want to think to hard about this. I wanted to say “needs more Jesus”, lol. But you’re mentioning God so, it’s the same. It’s very interesting Sleepydude.
He's on the right track, but in suggesting that BOTH angels and demons "possess" people, etc and that BOTH masquerade as aliens, he's assigning characteristics of demons to angels, which is wrong. Some of those activities are what turned angels into demons in the first place. They (demons) have power, but are hostile to humanity, and ultimately under the thumb of God. Their rebellion is against God and they are cursed and headed for destruction/hell.
I get the "more Jesus" attitude, but...
The fact that the Bible suggests a mass delusion that fools lots of humanity at the end times---to human detriment---combined with current hints we get about globalist intent, Q references to events, etc...Leads me to believe that some kind of grand delusion event involving aliens or fake aliens may be in the offing. Therefore, I think it warrants some discussion.
Beautifully crafted and written.
Thank you for your contribution fren. May the Spirit continue to use you.
Prayers your way.
May you get your Recharge.
Amazing friend. You helped pull some strings together for me. God is truly working through you. Get your rest. I pray God blesses your your environment that you may continue to do His Work. Thank you
Prayers up for you! St Michael also has your six. Take care, Fren.
Stickied for the well thought out Biblical and ET researched opinion, for discussion. Nice SleepyDude!! ;) Thank you for this. Thought provoking for sure.
I appreciate you posting your opinion.
MY opinion is you are delusional. And should seek professional mental health expert.
It’s a researched opinion. Be a little nicer in your disagreements please Anons. I don’t want to do butthead patrol tonight.
You are correct. I apologize to you, OP, and everyone else.
Whats your source? The Bible isn't really clear on these issues, although we know that such exist.
Free will is a fallacy, fren. The scriptures clearly state that one is either a slave to God or to sin. Either way, a slave is thus and a slave's will isn't free.
The Bible provides examples as well: Moses, Jonah, Job, Pharoah, Etc. Even Christ came to do His Father's will, not His own.
Concerning the fall of man and creation:
"For the creation was subjected to futility(sin/corruption), not by its own will, but because of the One who subjected it, in hope that the creation itself will be set free from its bondage to decay and brought into the glorious freedom of the children of God." Romans 8:20-21.
Read that again, slowly. The fall was God's will and doing. Where was free will?
Food for thought.
As far as the whole demon/alien thing, I'm in agreement here:
https://www.thepathoftruth.com/teachings/origin-identity-satan.htm
A good read.
My take on this: Lucifer was the original sin(ner), banished with a third of the angels. These fallen angels are (demons). Aliens and peoples exposure and experiences with them are demonic entities. Ghosts and peoples exposure and experiences with them, again are demonic entities adept in their deception. Great website to learn more is here : https://creation.com/alien-life-ufo-questions-and-answers
I understand your premise and comparisons but just stay on Earth. Outside of the very real presence of Angels and Demons, everything involving aliens from other worlds in outer space is just comic book stuff. It's escapism that's irrelevant to daily life and a waste of time to ponder.