According to Gonzalo the United States is the only party that had motive and opportunity. The Russians had the ability to simply turn off the tap without destroying the whole infrastructure. Someone with submarines had the resources to attack both pipelines within 24 hours. It was probably done with explosives. This is likely intended to insure that Europe has maximum suffering in order to prolong a war with Russia. Fixing pipelines like this can take years, not weeks. Goodbye Europe.
The United States has outdone itself compared to the atrocity committed on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
I'm not a seismic expert, but I do remember that when the initial explosion (malfunction) on the Soviet sub Kursk occurred, a Norwegian seismic station recorded the event. The secondary much larger explosion was recorded as far as Alaska.
Any qualified Seismicfags know how to navigate the tools with precision?
I agree with Gonzalo, but I do not agree that the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were atrocities. They were legitimate acts of war against military targets of a nation we had spent 4 terrible years fighting, the alternative to which would have been a conventional invasion of Japan that would have resulted in an estimated million casualties. This is selective outrage. You are apparently not concerned for the fire-bombing of Tokyo with more damage and casualties.
Anything’s possible. But the horrors they’ve perpetrated for hundreds of years, stunted and painful existences for generations of people, make Nord Stream seem small.
Who confirmed the sabotage/damage? Curious if it’s real or part of the psyop to freak EU citizens out and turn them against their governments? If the pipelines are functioning everyone could live with the belief at any moment the gas could be turned back on. Now the threat of a cold winter looks more like a grim reality.
The fact that fully redundant systems don't crash at the exact same time confirms sabotage, and nobody suspects Russia or any European government as none would have any motive to destroy this infrastructure.
Everyone's looking at the US and NATO now, especially the Bidet administration is highly suspected. After all Biden bragged about doing this back in February.
Well the Germans are accusing Russia of doing it, but thats just politics. Theres no logical reason for Russia to do this at all. Only US or UK would have the potential means to do it in theory
Exactly, the only ones that stand to benefit from this is the U.S. and it's largely why we created a party war, dragging everyone into it.
The pipeline shutting down fucks Germany and their economic growth. Ruins any near future alliance with Russia, along with preventing alliance with France, Italy and Britian. Because Germany bears the brunt of EU funding, crashing Germany will also fuck the EU. Thus ensuring their continued dependence on us and because the euro will collapse, the dollar will become international default standard again only because it'll be basically what's left.
I mean look at Germanys situation, we created that. We pushed green energy bullshit soo fucking hard that they dutifully went all in on green energy only to create a situation where theyre energy dependent on everyone else, and are potentially facing complete collapse with lack of russian gas. Trump proved the u.s. can quickly become energy independent, but Germany already burned that bridge by switching to green energy.
*** tl;dr*** We're fucking Europe because they're slowly becoming less dependent on us.
Im curious what you mean, please explain more than just "intensify war"? They were doing just that, ref the partial mobilization that just happened. Why does the sabotaged gas pipeline give them any more cover?
Nothing is confirmed today, remember that Jeffrey Epstein did not kill himself, the Mandalay bay was not an arms deal gone wrong, the people in Afghanistan did not cling to a leaving Transport plane.
You are only receiving a news report. Now if you have been on site in a control station and have clocked the sensors personally, we could use a confirmation.
Two powerful underwater explosions happened at the Nord Stream pipelines, Sweden's National Seismic Network says. One of the explosions had created magnitude of 2.3 Earthquake.
Oh I know - just pointing out none of us knows what it actually is, or if the video is real, or if it was something from 5 years ago in a different body of water.
It's annoying but we are in a time now when anything we see can be faked.
I think this might be the pretext for the scare event. Time will tell.
Oh the blame is on NATO and the Biden administration, everyone knows they are responsible but it's not yet proven how it happened. Some theories suggests a submarine has been launching explosives, in that case it's probably already put on surveillance, it's not like it can escape anywhere in the enclosed area. Especially not with all surrounding countries looking for it.
Other related analysts like the Saker and Andrei Martyanov do not appear to be white hat / Q aware. Maybe Martyanov is being coy. He's as smart as a whip.
Im getting kind of fed up with people justifying really atrocious actions by saying its the white hats doing it like it somehow makes it less atrocious and genocidal... like the vaxx for instance.
Its kind of hard to wake up and bring down the cabal when your fucking DEAD.
Now of course i have no idea if this is true or who done it but thousands will die around Europe this winter if there is no gas for electricity/heating and those deaths will lie firmly at the feet of whoever carried out such an action...
Whatever colour hat they happen to be wearing.
Intentionally targeting civilian populations is a war crime don't cha know.
This has pissed me off, my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.
Also, what if it is white hat propaganda to concentrate their minds and that is all.
Remember that the plan is to take people to the precipice not over, so the whole thing being fake and the gas flowing again the second this is resolved would not surprise me at all.
Sometimes I think it’s more like a chess game than controlled demolition.
Black hats’ are backed into a corner and do something irrational. When Q says “patriots in control” I think that means they control the flow of the game. Black hats will do stuff to cause damage but patriots have the upper hand - it’s their game to lose.
Sometimes a pawn is left unguarded - because to guard it would lead to more damage.
It cuts the nose off their own face, EU citizens will pop off on their own governments now. False flag attacks are not supposed to cut the perpetrator's own dick literally off.
I am going with White Hat, or white hat propaganda. Depriving Germany and the EU of all heating does not further the deep state's causes and guarantees internal unrest in short order.
Freezing and starving people are going to remove their own governements in short order. They are already losing a war with Russia (the whole of NATO) have you forgotten?
They already have war so that motive is not looking so crash hot.
I like Pepe and his outstanding reporting. Germany does build submarines. In fact, they are some of the most advanced subs in the world. Israel not too long ago was "gifted" with several submarines built in Germany.
Recall Germany was first to cancel Russian NG imports, which caused a sharp increase in energy prices across Germany. The German people were very upset by this. I believe public backlash was beginning to make the government waver. So, there is a motive for the German government to side-rail growing protests across Germany. The government has a good excuse now for the lack of energy in Germany.
How did Germany do this? I'm sure they asked Biden to carry the sabotage out. Joe Biden's own words let's the cat out of the bag when he said Nord Stream will be ended if Russia invades Ukraine. After being asked to be more specific, he doubled down and smirked. That always left an odd feeling in me.
He left out the global elites, the WEF & the Committee of 300. They can undoubtedly afford mercenaries. The Great Reset, famine, climate change, the Central Banks. Stop dividing us. It is not about nation states, it’s about who wants a world government.
Is this a real event? Was Nord 1 & 2 actually destroyed or just being reported as such? So far there's been ZERO conformation that this sabotage actually occurred. To me at this point this seems to be part of the show. No, the pipes are not cut. You can fake this by just dropping the pressure to zero and say "OMG! Someone did a sabotage what do we do now?!" Trumps military (and he's in control if it) would NOT do this! He's right, this would be some evil shit to no end if this were real. I don't believe it is.
Did the damage happen on the 24th? Then I would understand the German comment about the date being remembered. It was in Germanys control according to Biden.
I appreciate the elderly toddler putting his threats on the record. When some people overseas show up here with guns looking for answers, I can point them to Biden. There may be less smirking at that point. Hopefully Gen. Milley finished turning out his new recruits and got them all vaccinated, and is willing to temporarily put his army fashion runway shows on hold for the war they started. They can't count on me participating. I am only here to point them toward Biden.
According to Gonzalo the United States is the only party that had motive and opportunity. The Russians had the ability to simply turn off the tap without destroying the whole infrastructure. Someone with submarines had the resources to attack both pipelines within 24 hours. It was probably done with explosives. This is likely intended to insure that Europe has maximum suffering in order to prolong a war with Russia. Fixing pipelines like this can take years, not weeks. Goodbye Europe.
The United States has outdone itself compared to the atrocity committed on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
I wonder how many of Ghislaine Maxwell's friends also have submarine licenses. 🤔
Like u/TSearch said below, if this is real; I don't see how a genuine US Navy sub goes rogue and starts blowing holes in gas lines.
USGS Earthquake map shows ABSOLUTELY NO seismic activity anywhere near the Baltic Sea.
I'm not a seismic expert, but I do remember that when the initial explosion (malfunction) on the Soviet sub Kursk occurred, a Norwegian seismic station recorded the event. The secondary much larger explosion was recorded as far as Alaska.
Any qualified Seismicfags know how to navigate the tools with precision?
Edit: I fine tuned the map to include all seismic activity between 1.0 and 3.0 Richter.
Still, Absolutely nothing on the map.
No subs needed.
It's less then 100m there, technical divers can reach 450m.
USS Kearsarge was nearby at the time, maybe they launched from there.
No divers either right?
Drones
I agree with Gonzalo, but I do not agree that the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were atrocities. They were legitimate acts of war against military targets of a nation we had spent 4 terrible years fighting, the alternative to which would have been a conventional invasion of Japan that would have resulted in an estimated million casualties. This is selective outrage. You are apparently not concerned for the fire-bombing of Tokyo with more damage and casualties.
He forgets the global elite.
He briefly mentions them at the end.
This is truly evil but our government has done FAR worse. I don’t understand how people can believe otherwise.
Some folks seem to think that they may blow up a whole fucking city here stateside.
Anything’s possible. But the horrors they’ve perpetrated for hundreds of years, stunted and painful existences for generations of people, make Nord Stream seem small.
Who confirmed the sabotage/damage? Curious if it’s real or part of the psyop to freak EU citizens out and turn them against their governments? If the pipelines are functioning everyone could live with the belief at any moment the gas could be turned back on. Now the threat of a cold winter looks more like a grim reality.
The fact that fully redundant systems don't crash at the exact same time confirms sabotage, and nobody suspects Russia or any European government as none would have any motive to destroy this infrastructure.
Everyone's looking at the US and NATO now, especially the Bidet administration is highly suspected. After all Biden bragged about doing this back in February.
Well the Germans are accusing Russia of doing it, but thats just politics. Theres no logical reason for Russia to do this at all. Only US or UK would have the potential means to do it in theory
Exactly, the only ones that stand to benefit from this is the U.S. and it's largely why we created a party war, dragging everyone into it.
The pipeline shutting down fucks Germany and their economic growth. Ruins any near future alliance with Russia, along with preventing alliance with France, Italy and Britian. Because Germany bears the brunt of EU funding, crashing Germany will also fuck the EU. Thus ensuring their continued dependence on us and because the euro will collapse, the dollar will become international default standard again only because it'll be basically what's left.
I mean look at Germanys situation, we created that. We pushed green energy bullshit soo fucking hard that they dutifully went all in on green energy only to create a situation where theyre energy dependent on everyone else, and are potentially facing complete collapse with lack of russian gas. Trump proved the u.s. can quickly become energy independent, but Germany already burned that bridge by switching to green energy.
*** tl;dr*** We're fucking Europe because they're slowly becoming less dependent on us.
Russia can turn off the taps, no need to sabotage.
Im curious what you mean, please explain more than just "intensify war"? They were doing just that, ref the partial mobilization that just happened. Why does the sabotaged gas pipeline give them any more cover?
"After all Biden bragged about doing this back in February." Ooo I hope someone has that video to post...
There's a sticky on PDW right now: https://scored.co/c/TheDonald/p/15JnFyoSZx/272022--biden-if-russia-invadest/c
🐸👌❤
Nothing is confirmed today, remember that Jeffrey Epstein did not kill himself, the Mandalay bay was not an arms deal gone wrong, the people in Afghanistan did not cling to a leaving Transport plane.
You are only receiving a news report. Now if you have been on site in a control station and have clocked the sensors personally, we could use a confirmation.
Watch the actor resident come out and suggest Europe buy gas off of the US... that's tick them off something fierce...
Reading comprehension.... what do you even mean???
No probs man, I was a bit confused.
Carry on !
Two powerful underwater explosions happened at the Nord Stream pipelines, Sweden's National Seismic Network says. One of the explosions had created magnitude of 2.3 Earthquake.
Smells like bull 💩.
See my comment below, there is NOTHING on the map anywhere around the Baltic Sea. Is the media really becoming this sloppy, or are all the seismic stations hiding the facts?
Edit: I fine tuned the map to include all seismic activity between 1.0 and 3.0 Richter.
Still, Absolutely nothing on the map.
https://t.me/Aq701/17811
Are they actually damaged? I think that’s the question. I could be misreading.
Very good point indeed.
The precipice has been created - for Europe.
There is video of the bubbles of gas on the surface
There is a video of bubbles of something on the surface.
I'm not saying it's absolute proof just 5:5
Oh I know - just pointing out none of us knows what it actually is, or if the video is real, or if it was something from 5 years ago in a different body of water.
It's annoying but we are in a time now when anything we see can be faked.
I think this might be the pretext for the scare event. Time will tell.
We'll, I'm scared so...
Didn't Ghislaine Maxwell get her submarine licence?
Point is, cabal own billion dollar planes and yachts, maybe they have a few subs as well for some black ops to blame America to try to force war.
Or what about China even? People in China trying to bring America to war, so blow it themselves to blame?
Who knows at this point. I need some popcorn.
u/#q4623
ahahaha they sent Maxwell as a special op in her submarine ahah
Here's the Rumble link for anyone who prefers to not use Skrootube:
https://rumble.com/v1lor3t-2022-09-27-the-americans-declared-war-on-europe.html
Thanks friend!
Western people should blame it on NATO which they never voted to join.
Oh the blame is on NATO and the Biden administration, everyone knows they are responsible but it's not yet proven how it happened. Some theories suggests a submarine has been launching explosives, in that case it's probably already put on surveillance, it's not like it can escape anywhere in the enclosed area. Especially not with all surrounding countries looking for it.
The hunt for Red October with a twist...
Very interesting info although this guy has no 40,000 ft aerial view perspective to speak of.
If the US did this it is most certainly the white hats as this will drive a stake right into the heart of the deep state.
There is simply no way Europe avoids popping off now.
Drag these WEF motherfuckers !
Gonzalo Lira is a great geopolitical analyst, especially on Ukraine, Russia and America, but I don't think he is white hat / Q aware.
He's going to be so pleased when he figures it out.
Yeah, I get a sense of that.
Other related analysts like the Saker and Andrei Martyanov do not appear to be white hat / Q aware. Maybe Martyanov is being coy. He's as smart as a whip.
Im getting kind of fed up with people justifying really atrocious actions by saying its the white hats doing it like it somehow makes it less atrocious and genocidal... like the vaxx for instance.
Its kind of hard to wake up and bring down the cabal when your fucking DEAD.
Now of course i have no idea if this is true or who done it but thousands will die around Europe this winter if there is no gas for electricity/heating and those deaths will lie firmly at the feet of whoever carried out such an action...
Whatever colour hat they happen to be wearing. Intentionally targeting civilian populations is a war crime don't cha know. This has pissed me off, my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.
"It's kind of hard to wake up and bring down the cabal when your fucking DEAD."
At least they will die on their feet and hopefully their governments first.
This is a war. The complacent motherfucking normies have guaranteed that "not everything will be clean"
During WWII the English blew the fuck out of the French Fleet.
War is not clean
https://warfarehistorynetwork.com/why-did-the-royal-navy-sink-the-french-fleet-in-world-war-ii/
Also, what if it is white hat propaganda to concentrate their minds and that is all.
Remember that the plan is to take people to the precipice not over, so the whole thing being fake and the gas flowing again the second this is resolved would not surprise me at all.
Buckle up.
Sometimes I think it’s more like a chess game than controlled demolition.
Black hats’ are backed into a corner and do something irrational. When Q says “patriots in control” I think that means they control the flow of the game. Black hats will do stuff to cause damage but patriots have the upper hand - it’s their game to lose.
Sometimes a pawn is left unguarded - because to guard it would lead to more damage.
Wow this is definitely going to stir the shit pot
Indeed. There's alot of chan chatter going on too.
It makes sense when you realize that "America" is actually just a province of China now thanks to Democrats.
NATO had motive and opportunity.
What motive?
They want war
It cuts the nose off their own face, EU citizens will pop off on their own governments now. False flag attacks are not supposed to cut the perpetrator's own dick literally off.
I am going with White Hat, or white hat propaganda. Depriving Germany and the EU of all heating does not further the deep state's causes and guarantees internal unrest in short order.
War with Russia and suffering of the people to force them into slavery.
Freezing and starving people are going to remove their own governements in short order. They are already losing a war with Russia (the whole of NATO) have you forgotten?
They already have war so that motive is not looking so crash hot.
Damn right!
I like Pepe and his outstanding reporting. Germany does build submarines. In fact, they are some of the most advanced subs in the world. Israel not too long ago was "gifted" with several submarines built in Germany.
Recall Germany was first to cancel Russian NG imports, which caused a sharp increase in energy prices across Germany. The German people were very upset by this. I believe public backlash was beginning to make the government waver. So, there is a motive for the German government to side-rail growing protests across Germany. The government has a good excuse now for the lack of energy in Germany.
How did Germany do this? I'm sure they asked Biden to carry the sabotage out. Joe Biden's own words let's the cat out of the bag when he said Nord Stream will be ended if Russia invades Ukraine. After being asked to be more specific, he doubled down and smirked. That always left an odd feeling in me.
Yup. My thoughts. This whole "it was the Americans" comes a bit too soon and too intense. The Germans have a motive, as you said.
Or, it's all just smoke and mirrors. We'll see.
Absolutely. We must always think in terms of what is the motive and who benefits.
He left out the global elites, the WEF & the Committee of 300. They can undoubtedly afford mercenaries. The Great Reset, famine, climate change, the Central Banks. Stop dividing us. It is not about nation states, it’s about who wants a world government.
it's obviously Nato, controlled by the lizardmen who want us to eat insects. ( I'm mostly serious kek )
this is definitely white genocide. make europeans weak and vulnerable for complete wipe out
I hope this leads to all of Europe abandonning the EU
Is this a real event? Was Nord 1 & 2 actually destroyed or just being reported as such? So far there's been ZERO conformation that this sabotage actually occurred. To me at this point this seems to be part of the show. No, the pipes are not cut. You can fake this by just dropping the pressure to zero and say "OMG! Someone did a sabotage what do we do now?!" Trumps military (and he's in control if it) would NOT do this! He's right, this would be some evil shit to no end if this were real. I don't believe it is.
https://greatawakening.win/p/15JnFypHzV/the-swedish-national-seismic-net/c/
I understand but still having a hard time buying any of this. It makes ZERO sense for the USN follow this type of order knowing the result.
Did the damage happen on the 24th? Then I would understand the German comment about the date being remembered. It was in Germanys control according to Biden.
"dark winter"
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1574437810274467840.html
These are grown children and elderley toddlers we are dealing with. Italy happened, they panicked, and went ahead and destroyed the pipeline.
I appreciate the elderly toddler putting his threats on the record. When some people overseas show up here with guns looking for answers, I can point them to Biden. There may be less smirking at that point. Hopefully Gen. Milley finished turning out his new recruits and got them all vaccinated, and is willing to temporarily put his army fashion runway shows on hold for the war they started. They can't count on me participating. I am only here to point them toward Biden.
Oh boy, God help us. Optics are bad.
I doubt the likes of Macron or Merkel will be without anything.
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