Our founding fathers would be considered right wing fanatics to the lefty Dems today. Anyone who doesn’t agree with their commie thoughts is an ultra conservative.
They know that it will be a huge MAGA win with 8 state general assemblies already giving their electors to Trump - To me this is just a get your base fired up and ready yo riot piece.
Each of the leaders of those countries ostensibly “won” elections that were structurally rigged to virtually guarantee they could not lose.
But election fraud and rigging is impossible! Who is this author?
The heart of the Moore case is a formerly fringe legal notion called the Independent State Legislature (ISL) theory. This theory posits that an obscure provision in the US constitution allowing state legislatures to set “time, place, and manner” rules for federal elections should not be subject to judicial oversight. In other words, state legislatures should have the absolute power to determine how federal elections are run without court interference.
My sides! My sides!
Yes, the FOUNDERS inserted "fringe legal notions" all over the US Constitution. Doesn't everybody know that? Everyone knows that the "obscure provisions" in the US Constitution don't matter. Golly gee! It's not like the Founders didn't spend months writing it and rewriting it, and then doing so again. It's not like our country lived under the Articles of Confederation for almost a DECADE to figure out that it was highly flawed and needed to be amended. In fact, the amendments were so extensive they decided to throw the Articles of Confederation out and start all over with the US Constitution!
And do you really think The States goal of retaining power from the federal government, and making their own decisions, was an obscure provision? My Lord, that was almost the ENTIRE POINT of the US Constitution. It was the single biggest goal, because our Founders single greatest fear was an all powerful centralized government!
I know for certain that some of the best legal minds of the day were just flat out lazy. They were tired, folks. I mean, can we really blame them for inserting "fringe legal notions" and "obscure provisions" in at the last moment just to get the whole thing done and over with?
Steven Donziger, thank you for producing one of the stupidest things I have ever read. Are you a gleaming example of the education system or what? You're the damn golden boy poster child of all time. Thanks so much for making your mark in the annals of false history.
If Trump had succeeded, he would have “won” the election via the electoral college (itself an anti-democratic relic)
You're god damn right it is. This leftest turd is trying to use "relic" in a negative term, but doesn't realize it means "an object esteemed and venerated" and anything "anti-democratic" is generally a good thing.
They can't do anything but side with the Constitution, so this will definitely be a win for us, making it more difficult for the dems and rinos to cheat.
I have to agree with you. It seems like he may be pressured to behave better lately, though, because of their last few rulings. I hope...but won't count on it, yet, like you said.
Donziger sounds like he wants to change the Constitution, and not using the process set up for it. He wants the popular vote to rule the elections and throw out the Electoral College. One of the greatest safeguards set up by our Founding Fathers. These people are commies through and through. The need to be stopped ASAP.
I cant read that. The opening two paragraphs alone are unhinged. These people are nutcases and cannot be reasoned with because they live in an alternate reality.
So would this be a win for us if upheld? How does it limit cheating?
the individual state legislatures... being able to assert that 10th amendment power... is more authoritarian than big fed dominating the whole country? this is some low tier gaslighting, cognitive dissonance crap here.
Just one Moore example of people within our government doing their best to give us our rights and freedoms back, and the left freaking out and calling it fascist... They will beg for their slaver, just as the Hebrews did in the desert, crying out to Moses saying, "You lead us out of Egypt for this!?!" Dolts. Humans gonna human.
If the court u̶p̶h̶o̶l̶d̶s̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶r̶o̶g̶u̶e̶ d͟o͟e͟s͟ ͟n͟o͟t͟ ͟u͟p͟h͟o͟l͟d͟ ͟t͟h͟e͟ ͟c͟o͟n͟s͟t͟i͟t͟u͟t͟i͟o͟n͟a͟l͟l͟y͟ ͟c͟o͟r͟r͟e͟c͟t͟ 'Independent State Legislature’ theory, it would put the US squarely on path to authoritarianism
I am always astonished at how delusional these idiots are who write this propaganda, and how stupid the people are who waste time reading it and, worse yet, believing it.
Issue: Whether a state’s judicial branch may nullify the regulations governing the “Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives ... prescribed ... by the Legislature thereof,” and replace them with regulations of the state courts’ own devising, based on vague state constitutional provisions purportedly vesting the state judiciary with power to prescribe whatever rules it deems appropriate to ensure a “fair” or “free” election.
IN OTHER WORDS....can judges SIDE-STEP the Constitution...
SCARY STUFF HERE....GIVEN HOW THE LIB'S ARE CONTINUALLY "CHANGING THE ELECTION RULES" at the last minute....like they did in 2020!
Independent state legislature theory? Is that like states being able to exercise autonomy? Able to create reasonable laws that don't violate our Natural Rights?
intense competition between democracy, authoritarianism and fascism is playing out
They talk as if democracy cannot be authoritarian, and that fascism is not inherently democratic / populist. It comes from the Latin fasces and represents the idea that while individual voters are weak, they can bundle together - ie democracy - to force their will on the minority. Fascism is simply authoritarian democracy. Or more simply fascism is democracy. They’re the same thing.
an obscure provision in the US constitution allowing state legislatures to set “time, place, and manner” rules for federal elections
Leave it to fascists to construct a straw man. There is no federal election for POTUS. States appoint electors, the electoral college votes for President. The federal elections are for representatives of the house and (now) senate.
I read halfway through that piece of crap article and now I think I have AIDS.
“Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch.”
“Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote!”
– Ben Franklin
LOL. Probably Monkey Pox too.
The K is silent.
Yeah, it leans so far left I fell out of my chair.
Obviously need a couple boosters.
CovAIDs-17
I guess "ultra-conservative" means: honor the Constitution
u/#correct
Steven Donziger gets the Idiot of the Month Award with this piece of drivel.
Apparently he doesn't know that the US is a Constitutional Republic. Nor does he understand the function and reason for the Electoral College.
He is obviously one of Stalin's 'Useful Idiots', which always precedes the execution of the 'Useless Idiots' when the Communists take over.
He knows, he understands and he is on the side that recognizes it as the primary thing standing in their way to seize total control.
Our founding fathers would be considered right wing fanatics to the lefty Dems today. Anyone who doesn’t agree with their commie thoughts is an ultra conservative.
They know that it will be a huge MAGA win with 8 state general assemblies already giving their electors to Trump - To me this is just a get your base fired up and ready yo riot piece.
great dig!
Irrelevant question, is "house arrest" constitutional? They can say it's "legal' all they want, but is it constitutional?
But election fraud and rigging is impossible! Who is this author?
My sides! My sides!
Yes, the FOUNDERS inserted "fringe legal notions" all over the US Constitution. Doesn't everybody know that? Everyone knows that the "obscure provisions" in the US Constitution don't matter. Golly gee! It's not like the Founders didn't spend months writing it and rewriting it, and then doing so again. It's not like our country lived under the Articles of Confederation for almost a DECADE to figure out that it was highly flawed and needed to be amended. In fact, the amendments were so extensive they decided to throw the Articles of Confederation out and start all over with the US Constitution!
And do you really think The States goal of retaining power from the federal government, and making their own decisions, was an obscure provision? My Lord, that was almost the ENTIRE POINT of the US Constitution. It was the single biggest goal, because our Founders single greatest fear was an all powerful centralized government!
I know for certain that some of the best legal minds of the day were just flat out lazy. They were tired, folks. I mean, can we really blame them for inserting "fringe legal notions" and "obscure provisions" in at the last moment just to get the whole thing done and over with?
Steven Donziger, thank you for producing one of the stupidest things I have ever read. Are you a gleaming example of the education system or what? You're the damn golden boy poster child of all time. Thanks so much for making your mark in the annals of false history.
You get a gold star for this one fren
u/#updoot
I share your sentiments
Truly, it must be painful to be so cognitively impaired.
They called Trump a "dictator." Dunno how they arrived at that.
They always accuse others of what they're guilty of. It's even one of Alinsky's Rules for Radicals.
Projection
Sweet bootlicking sugartits, that is cross-eyed levels of retarded to read.
You're god damn right it is. This leftest turd is trying to use "relic" in a negative term, but doesn't realize it means "an object esteemed and venerated" and anything "anti-democratic" is generally a good thing.
They can't do anything but side with the Constitution, so this will definitely be a win for us, making it more difficult for the dems and rinos to cheat.
...and refuse to hear cases.
True. It has been bad. It seems to have reversed directions a bit, though.
dont count your chickens yet. People like Roberts chicken out of everything when the heat is turned up
I have to agree with you. It seems like he may be pressured to behave better lately, though, because of their last few rulings. I hope...but won't count on it, yet, like you said.
Well, his wife stood her ground, so that's promising.
They just use hot-button terminology designed to get clicks, without regard to whether it's 180 degrees opposite of the truth.
Authoritarianism would be the national govt overruling the states. Not vice versa.
Clown world.
Donziger sounds like he wants to change the Constitution, and not using the process set up for it. He wants the popular vote to rule the elections and throw out the Electoral College. One of the greatest safeguards set up by our Founding Fathers. These people are commies through and through. The need to be stopped ASAP.
This is so backwards, it descends to hellish levels.
I love the adjectives coming from the left these days. Conditioning at its finest.
I cant read that. The opening two paragraphs alone are unhinged. These people are nutcases and cannot be reasoned with because they live in an alternate reality. So would this be a win for us if upheld? How does it limit cheating?
I forced myself to read it; you can too.
Even the normies brains will have problem gelling those those two words together!
Another Left Wing propaganda article.
Yes and I wish somebody would've warned me before I started reading it.
the individual state legislatures... being able to assert that 10th amendment power... is more authoritarian than big fed dominating the whole country? this is some low tier gaslighting, cognitive dissonance crap here.
Just one Moore example of people within our government doing their best to give us our rights and freedoms back, and the left freaking out and calling it fascist... They will beg for their slaver, just as the Hebrews did in the desert, crying out to Moses saying, "You lead us out of Egypt for this!?!" Dolts. Humans gonna human.
We are there already
It did, of course, have the current fav phrase of leftists, tho: "THREAT TO DEMOCRACY".
Perfect headline. This certainly IS fear.
I am always astonished at how delusional these idiots are who write this propaganda, and how stupid the people are who waste time reading it and, worse yet, believing it.
Extra retarded fuck of an author. These people smell their own farts and love it.
Farts will forever be funny.
The linked article is clearly labeled "OPINION"
I guess the question is this: is humanity so dumbed down they don't know what an OPED is?
What a line of BS!
OBSCURE? I learned about that in High school. You Brits need to stay in your lane.
HERE'S THE SCOTUS CASE..."Moore v Harper"
https://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/moore-v-harper-2/
Issue: Whether a state’s judicial branch may nullify the regulations governing the “Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives ... prescribed ... by the Legislature thereof,” and replace them with regulations of the state courts’ own devising, based on vague state constitutional provisions purportedly vesting the state judiciary with power to prescribe whatever rules it deems appropriate to ensure a “fair” or “free” election.
IN OTHER WORDS....can judges SIDE-STEP the Constitution...
SCARY STUFF HERE....GIVEN HOW THE LIB'S ARE CONTINUALLY "CHANGING THE ELECTION RULES" at the last minute....like they did in 2020!
The author: https://www.timesofisrael.com/free-after-993-days-of-detention-us-lawyer-vows-to-continue-fighting-chevron/
Guardian of what? The insane asylum?
ROUGE ‘Independent State Legislature’? What? socialist tripe.
Independent state legislature theory? Is that like states being able to exercise autonomy? Able to create reasonable laws that don't violate our Natural Rights?
They talk as if democracy cannot be authoritarian, and that fascism is not inherently democratic / populist. It comes from the Latin fasces and represents the idea that while individual voters are weak, they can bundle together - ie democracy - to force their will on the minority. Fascism is simply authoritarian democracy. Or more simply fascism is democracy. They’re the same thing.
Leave it to fascists to construct a straw man. There is no federal election for POTUS. States appoint electors, the electoral college votes for President. The federal elections are for representatives of the house and (now) senate.
The article is absolute horseshit.
Wut?