https://www.uncoverdc.com/2022/12/02/urgent-action-fda-plans-to-ban-homeopathic-medicines/
If it poses any threat to the mainstream narrative, the FDA and Big Pharma want it shut down. Years ago I attended some lectures on the subject, but I stopped going because it sounded too much like Hogwarts. The dilution factors often exceeded Avogadro's number, and it was hard to understand (or at least validate) its therapeutic efficacy. Like acupuncture, it's been around a long time, and there seems to be virtually no harm in trying these agents. The fact the FDA wants to ban them automatically makes me wonder if there is more to them than originally thought.
I'm with you.....Anything the FDA wants to ban..... must have value. Do your homework and try it. Avoid Mayo Clinic.
Yeah, it is like Pawlow's dog to me. Whenever fact checkers says something, I believe the opposite. FDA's reputation is right down that line...
Seek out Native American Indian and Amish ways. I can also attest to natural medicines being the inly ones that work for me after years if horrible side affects from synthetic pharmaceutical prescription meds that made me sick something fierce.
IMO, the fact that the FDA wants to ban them is because they do work and the FDA wants allopathic pharmacy to have no competition, and to harm as many people as possible with the Big Pharma side effects.
At least with HCQ and Ivermectin we had hard evidence it works. What evidence do YOU have?
I've used a number of natural medicines over the past 25 years for both myself and my animals with much success. Also, it seems others on this thread have, as well.
I've been an advocate of natural medicines for years, but I'm not naive enough to think that any natural medicine will be effective if you don't have an adequate dose of it.
I agree. I usually have to play around with them a bit to find the right dose for me...and what works for me may not work for someone else.
For one thing, the Indians were healthy til the white brought their diseases. The Amish also thrived and I personally know some people who live by natures medicines alone.
Well, I have used homeopathics for over 40 years and I most certainly can attest to their efficacy. While there may be aspects that seem out of the ordinary..like Bach Flower Remedies...there is absolute proof that the foundational tenets have merit. I would be extremely sad if the FDA banned them. Yeah...that wouldn't happen if they weren't effective. Like any study...you have to learn and experience makes a difference. My daughter used a Lyme nosode when she was bit by an infected deer tick and recovered. It is safe...but can be deadly if not used properly. Respect is the key.
Same.
They've been threatening to cut off our access to all health supplements for years. We can only pray they won't succeed.
Just imagine when drug dealers are making deals in alleyways and street corners for Vitamins and minerals. Full blown clown world. 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🌏🌎🌍
We need to systematically dismantle the FDA before they get the chance to do this.
The FDA is NOT the protector of the public which we once thought it was. Most of the government bureaus need to be disbanded: IRS, FBI, CDC, FDA, DOE, NIH, CIA, NPR (not a government bureau, but a government funded propoganda machine), FEMA, DHS, DCFS, etc. Anything that keeps people healthy and circumvents Big Pharma, the government wants banned because they want you sick or dead.
Agree-the sooner the better. Can we please also take out the IRS, FBI, CIA and worthless COS as well?!?
Another 3 letter agency we dont need.
If they ban homeopathics, they should also ban vaccines, because -- the same principle.
"I diluted it enough that it's 50% water. It's not working. Make it 90% water, that's the ticket!"
You need to think about water retaining memory....emoto website....then you will understand homeopathy
Causticum 30c helped my keep my kid from bedwetting. Then it wore off, so I was planning a consult with a homeopath to put together a plan for us as I think there might be more going on. I guess I need to do that sooner than later. I have sent a protest comment via a homeopathic organization.
The definition of homeopathic medicine is “natural medicine” that works without the use of pharmaceuticals, right? How the hell is the FDA going to ban “natural medicines”? Besides, if they couldn’t keep folks from getting Ivermectin and HCQ during their “covid” propaganda and vaxx push they won’t be able to ban homeopathic medicines. Folks will find a way to get them from other countries. If you can keep drugs out of prison you’re not going to be able to keep homeopathic medicines out of a “supposedly “free” society.
Nope. Homeopathic means treating a condition with an almost undetectable amount of a substance, which if given in a larger dose would cause the condition.
In other words, people are claiming that a practically undetectable amount of something can affect your health.
There is no logical way that could do anything, outside of the placebo effect.
You have missed the essence of it as well. A proper preparation needs have no original substance. In fact, best practice is to stop dilution when original substance is no longer detectable. The memory left in the water carries the morphic resonance of the substance only. The desired effect is to trigger a "sympathetic harmonic resonance" in the auric, then physical body.
BS.
Utter BS.
Bulls don't have utters...could be cow shit.
Cows don't have "utters" either. So?
Tiotropium bromide in spiriva was only around 0.0008% of the formulation of a dry power inhaler and that dose was effective for people with COPD in providing instant relief. Such a dilute amount of something can still be very effective
Homeopathic is much lower amounts. Perhaps more like tossing one tiny salt crystal in a swimming pool of water.
Sounds pretty silly to me then, I make tinctures from herbs (spearmint, thyme, rosemary, sage for clearing congestion, turmeric, ginger, black pepper for inflammation) and I feel like the more i take of them the more relief I get
Because they do work
That's what logic would say. Homeopathic doses are so low, you might get one molecule in a dose. Or maybe not. It's a way for a nutjob to take 10 cents worth of medicine and make a million dollars from it. It's a scam, even if the person believes it works.
So, does that mean treating with a minuscule amount of a pharmaceutical drug?
You need to look up how they actually make this stuff. The point is to dilute out any trace of the original substance. With an allopathic medicine, you can take the dose, put it into a mass spectrometer and detect the medicine. With a homeopathic preparation, you're supposed to only retain the "essence" of the source plant.
If you do the math, they do enough serial dilutions in some cases to achieve dilutions higher than Avogadro's number. That means the solution is so diluted, there is not a single molecule of source material left in the water. It's quite literally just water.
No. Miniscule is huge compared to the amounts in homeopathic medicine. There might be one molecule in a dose. You've heard of chicken soup that tasted like they just waved the chicken over the pot?
That's a good question. Under the Obama Administration they were gunning to claim 'Walnuts' were a pharmaceutical because it is well known to be good for the heart. It seems whenever a demwit gets in office the threat of tyranny coming from the FDA is imminent. I believe this is all part of the mandatory vaxx campaign for transhumanism. Transhumanism appears to be a GMO patentable human. Why is there a mad push for the FDA to fast-track more and more mRNA jabs for myriad ailments?
They’d have to ban every plant and tree ever grown.
Samuel Hahneman, founder of homeopathy. Like Cures Like. Cross species. Every animal (including humans), mammal, avian, etc benefits in similar manner. Easier to understand if you include energy/essence/spirit into overall health, instead of limiting thinking into only one aspect, ie physical, or further, one organ instead of entire person, as example. The “one aspect” nonsense is what Allopaths follow, and what has gotten us into so much trouble over the last 100 or so years. As we have all learned, there is no money in healthy people.
Change the name to homopathic and they'll probably start promoting it.
Why do all your therapies need to be administered rectally?
Let them try!!!
Homeopathic products are governed by the same law as are other drugs per 21 USC 321(g)(1)(A) “articles recognized in the official USP, official Homoeopathic Pharmacopoeia of the United States or National Formulary, or any supplement.”.
Supplement here is not referring to dietary supplements, but supplements to the respective Pharmacopoeiae.
FDA could not with a broad stroke or regulation just take away homeopathic therapies without Congress first repealing this part of US Code.
Back in the 1930's when the FD&C Act was being debated/discussed homeopathic health providers prevailed on Congress to make certain that the emerging drug industry at that time would not de-legitimize homeopathic treatments.
A number of Congressmen at the time were under such providers' care taking homeopathic preparations, and they swore by them. A provision was made for homeopathics in law then, and it still exists in law today.
Goodbye fda. Those people uave names. Don't let them hide behind the institution.
The FDA allowed GMOs in all our foods. What does that tell you about them?
Life long homeopathic medicine user here, I’ve seen the remedies cure anything from staph/mrsa to abscesses to autism and alcoholism. It’s about (((vibration))) and frequency, an energetic miracle. When used properly it can change lives; mind, body & spirit. FDA can’t have any of that…
one oldtime remedy is a way to have your body expell gallstones...blew my desk mind because he was the one who felt them and recommended surgery...after i expelled them he checked me again and no gallstones and no surgery...expelled gallstones were big marble size down to bb size..lemme know if you want the remedy👍
blew my drs mind.....sorry bout that..i dont even own a desk 🤣
this is no joke...since 2012 i have purged gallstones four times but the elders in church do this twice a year...the night before just before going to bed drink 10 to 12 ozs of EXTRA VIRGIN OLIVE OIL then go to bed and sleep 8 hrs on your right side(if at any time during the night you wake up and are in any other position turn to your right side down)...in the morning as soon as you rise mix two heaping tablespoons of EPSON SALT in at least 20 ozs of warm water(you could go with 25 or 30 ozs of water just more to drink just go no less than 20 ozs) drink it down quik...now wait..you will probably have a normal bowel movement at first and then it will be like a ball valve opening and closing🤣but afterwards you will see the gallstones floating on top of the water in all different sizes and they will have a green tint due to the bile absorbed into them...you may want to do this on a weekend or take a day from work because you will go several times throughout the day but will be more than fine the following day...like i said you can do this twice a year but; have done it every three to four years since 2012 and havent had as many purged as i did that first time but rest assured it will get them out...i really appreciate the elders for this for i was facing expensive surgery when God allowed them to work this miracle through their wisdom...thank me by enlightening others👍
that was EPSOM SALT not epson thoroughly dissolved in at least 20 ozs of as warm of water as you can drink quickly...there will be no pain just pressure before relieving yourself👍
EDTA?
So are they going to ban pee drinking? Fasting? Ice baths? Good luck with that
The only shop that sold homeopathic remedies have stopped. Owner a russian oligarch ...friend of obumas?
Nah, I'm not defending homeopathics. I have been a long time advocate for natural medicine, but you need to have an actually adequate dosage of any medicine for it to have effects.
If that were true we would not have psychosomatic illnesses, psychic healing, faith healing, bed side manor and a desire to live in the patient would be irrelevant, and placebo effect unknown. You have failed to grasp the essence of it.
The placebo effect works 30% of the time on people who know it's placebo. I need some actual evidence. At least with HCQ and Ivermectin we HAVE evidence.
Are you serious?! Have you seen the recipe for Hydroxychloriquine? The main ingredient is boiled down grapefruit peel. Could you get anymore natural?
Who do you expect to have paid for the study?
Are there studies that show that it doesn't work?
It's not worth engaging in a polemic that demands proving minutia that ends up being different for every individual. It's an impossible feat. Every synthetic drug is a boilerplate dosage that hundreds, if not thousands are harmed by. It's obvious that every individual has a very unique immune system is built with unique experiences, genetics, and more. This is something Allopathic medicine never understands. It does do purposely for the reason I stated above. However, using boilerplate dosages helps Big Pharma's bottom line. God tells us we are all unique. To treat us like we are all the same like that of herd animals is dehumanizing and contrary to Nature. The pharmaceutical industry uses a Bell curve analysis in their studies. It use to be less than a 1% adverse reaction 'tail' for a passing grade for approval. Now, it must be 95% or less. You are absolutely correct though. In bio-medical academics, even Immunologists will admit they know less than 1% of how the human immune system works. This in itself is very telling of how insane it is taking any vax☠xine. More than 99% is unknown to the short term and long term adverse reactions.
Don't be a moron. Somehow they managed to come out with plenty of studies in support of hydoxychloroquine and ivermectin despite being fought by the establishment tooth and nail. So, why can't homeopathic medicine do the same?
Because it doesn't fucking work.
Do some research on homeopathic provings! My mother has been practicing homeopathic medicine fire 40 years and has been writing a book about her cases and provings, based on chart notes and years of dedicated patient/doctor visits. It’s truly amazing what can be done with homeopathic medicine! My dear husband smashed his hand at the mill recently and I’ve been dosing him with Arnica 200c. Swelling, throbbing down, remarkably, healing up nice and quick. Don’t knock it before you try it
Cite me literally one peer-reviewed study.
Wow, you sound like my atheist socialist brother.
http://revista.aph.org.br/index.php/aph/article/view/414
One among many. All it takes is a little digging, as you should know.
Homeopathic Nux Vomica for women suffering from morning sickness, works, and can be taken as often as necessary. Of course, no remedies are offered by mainstream doctors after the Thalidomide debacle, and women are told to eat dry crackers, or sweet tea. Awesome, if everything comes straight back up.
Why would one deny such a simple remedy? If you think they are not effective than do go ahead and try something else (hint: you can't). But for someone gripped with morning sickness, a few drops can offer relief, and that is greatly appreciated by a sufffering and newly pregnant woman, even if she has to sit there gripping a little bottle. Psychosomatic? Whatever.
Just seek out healing herbs and foraging books.
I'd agree here, but:
The FDA's role here is the question. Homeopathic preparations are just water. So long as they're done in clean conditions, there is no harm. FDA's job there is to ensure the shops are clean and that they're not getting bacteria or fungal contaminants.
It is true the FDA also arbitrates efficacy. However, numerous types of healing with no demonstrable benefit are legal in this country. You can stick needles in your body, get massages, get a shaman to wave a stick over you and chant. All of that is safe and legal. Is it effective? Probably no more effective than a placebo (placebo effect), but the FDA doesn't ban it.
If we're going to start banning homeopathy, it needs to be consistent across the board, and it needs to be done as an act of Congress, not an arbitrary declaration from Pfizer's cronies using the FDA to clear out the competition.
Why?
Homeopathic medicine is being banned because it's ineffective. I have never seen any evidence whatsoever from a properly conducted placebo-controlled clinical trial that shows any homeopathic treatment works. If you have a study, I'd love to see it, but I haven't yet.
If you understand how it works, what they do is assess the character of your symptoms. They get described and then matched with a plant, herb, tree bark, etc that supposedly bears similar character. It's an exceedingly long list of things to memorize. This works for this. That works for that, and it's based on the experience of the homeopath.
In order to produce their "medicines," they mash up the plants then extract them into water. They do what is called strikes, where they forcefully pull the solution down, as if you're swinging a hammer down, but with a vial in your hand. This is supposed to concentrate the medicinal elements in some way before rediluting the product. Numerically, you reduce the actual content of the plant chemicals to some meaninglessly small number. In case cases, the dilution actually exceeds Avagadro's number, meaning there is no chance that even a single molecule of the plant is left in the solution. It's just water. Quite literally.
Now, there is some truth to the placebo effect. The mind is indeed powerful and if it wants to heal, it has been repeatedly demonstrated that simple force of will can improve health outcomes. This may be how they operate.
As far as the FDA is concerned, they've always prioritized safety over efficacy. Water is safe. FDA limits the claims homeopaths can make as to efficacy on the packages of their products, but if there's no harm, they've allowed people who believe in these products to use them. This should continue. A ban on such products should be something the Congress decides, not something the FDA does unilaterally. Again, there's no harm as long as they meet FDA inspections. It's just water.
The FDA is not interested in doing any studies with natural remedies. They are a for-profit organization. Utilizing things that we have been using for millions of years already that is free hurts their bottom line.
That's not a good excuse. We have studies on HCQ and Ivermectin for C19 even though FDA blocked it at every turn.
Try harder.
Glad to see someone else here actually knows some real science.
Too many reactionary anti-sheep are quick to jump on literally anything just because they want to do the opposite of what the FDA does. Yes, we know the FDA is corrupt, that doesn't mean homeopathy works worth a damn.
If it was effective you'd be able to cite me some actual studies to show that it works.
You know, like you can with hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin.
If you can't show me at least the same level of proof that we have for hydroxychloroquine or ivermectin, then stop wasting our time.
I KEEP NOTICING ALL THE PEOPLE THAT DOWNVOTE ME WHEN I SAY THIS CANT PROVIDE ME ANY FUCKING EVIDENCE.
LESS DOWNVOTING MORE EVIDENCE, YOU HACKS.