Credit to u/LordKekingtonEsquire for this post two weeks ago. https://communities.win/c/GreatAwakening/p/16ZXaBH1Jm/trump-to-kevin-mccarthy-on-givin/c
I was curious why Trump would endorse someone as corrupt as McCarthy. I have enough faith in Trump, and the military guiding him ( the military is the only way,) to realize there has to be a dire reason he would endorse an obvious RINO for such a critical position. Luckily, I stumbled across LordKekingtonEsquire's post with these vital quotes.
Speaking on the opposition which includes Republican Reps. Matt Gaetz (FL), Ralph Norman (SC), Bob Good (VA) and Matt Rosendale (MT) who have placed their support behind Rep. Andy Biggs (AZ), he told the outlet, “Now, I’m friendly with a lot of these people who are against Kevin. I think almost every one of them are very much inclined toward Trump, and me toward them. But I have to tell them, and I have told them, you’re playing a very dangerous game.
“You could end up with the worse situation. I don’t even want to say what it is,” Trump cautioned, “but I could tell you it’s a worse situation. You could end up with some very bad situations.”
I'll postulate on what these situations could be but at the end of the day, with such an ominous warning from Trump, we should heed his advisement and once again, trust the man and the plan he is a part of.
Theory: The RINOs will not vote for anyone else but McCarthy. Especially someone as dangerous as Jordan. The position is too powerful and at this stage in the war, they and their handlers simply can't afford to lose Speaker. With a razor thin lead in the house, the RINOs may sabotage the vote entirely. Giving the speakership to Democrats instead of risking losing so much power to a true patriot like Jordan, or worse. McCarthy 'warned' of this in November:
"This is very fragile, that we're the only stopgap for this Biden administration, and if we don't do this right, the Democrats can take the majority. If we play games on the floor, the Democrats can end up picking who the speaker is."
A 'warning' or, coming from a RINO, a threat from the deep state. ' Let the RINO be Speaker or we'll only make it worse for you.' It may be too early in the game to make a powerplay like this. The deep state will simply go scorched earth before giving up such a powerful position to someone like Jordan who could do serious damage. As bad as everyone wants that we have to remember this is war and a carefully orchestrated plan is being executed. To take Speaker from the deep state now may be akin to cornering a dangerous foe. Risking the escalation that comes with fighting an adversary that truly believes there is no escape.
Even Jim Jordan is alluding to that being the case as he nominated McCarthy in the second round of voting. Jordan is a smart man but most importantly, he listens to Trump. He knows Trump is being guided by advanced intel. So I believe, after Trumps warning Jordan realized the truth of the matter. The deep state simply won't let us have such a powerful position and they will do anything to keep it from happening, and I do mean anything. Including even the possibility of another false flag or an assassination.
Trumps cautionary remarks of 'a very dangerous game' and 'I don't even want to say what it is' gives me the impression the deep state will do anything to keep someone like Jordan from taking Speaker. Someone as patriotic and intelligent as Jordan would be akin to Caesar crossing the Rubicon. The power he would wield is simply too great. Potentially cornering the deep state, they can and will do anything to avoid such a dangerous maneuver. Including false flags that escalate the situation. Not only putting the few patriots in DC at risk but even patriots abroad.
One of the guns the deep state is holding to our head is a false flag they will use to ramp up persecution of patriots. When I say assassination I'm not talking about taking out one of ours but a sacrifice of one of theirs. A sacrifice they will capitalize on and use to great effect. By now I would hope most of you understand who we are dealing with and how they operate.
Remember their little show on the 15th? Right before Trumps big announcement? A missile launched by 'Russia' into Poland. That was a prestaging of a hot WW3 narrative they were going to use to cut the feeds if Trump started dropping proverbial nukes. Trumps announcement of running was great news but that demonstration should have sent chills down everyone's spine. They will use false flags to derail the campaign if we move too quickly. What happened on the 15th served as a reminder as to why we have to handle this so carefully and with such measured tempo.
We have to be realistic in our goals and always remain grounded in the reality of this war and our enemies capabilities. The primary strategy is to slowly, safely deplete their resources while simultaneously peeling back the grasp the deep state has on the minds of citizens. The best is truly yet to come but discretion is the better part of valor. You never corner an adversary and risk invoking a last stand with potentially nuclear consequences. It's better to let them retreat with false hope. Whittling them down one by one.
"When you surround an army, leave an outlet free. Do not press a desperate foe too hard."
- Sun Tzu
"The object is to make him believe that there is a road to safety, and thus prevent his fighting with the courage of despair. After that, you may crush him."
- Tu Mu
Trump also supported Mitch as well? What happened?
Mitch back stabbed Trump.
That's the problem here.
We could blindly follow Trump and put in Mc. Then behind the scenes Mc backstabs us.
https://www.weforum.org/people/kevin-mccarthy
Same reason. The deep state can not and will not relinquish such a powerful position. It would be too costly and far too dangerous to wrestle that power away from the cabal. They would simply not allow it. Resorting to any measure needed to avoid it.
If this was as dangerous as you say. I would expect Trump to physically get involved.
He cannot just sit back on social media and tell us who to pick.
If you look at any polling right now.
No one wants Mc.
So if Trump still says go with Mc. He will be doing so against the people's will.
If McCarthy is part of "the plan" then positioning him as such has been executed extremely poorly.
The plan is supposed to be flexible.
Trump needs to have multiple options.
If the people don't like Mc. Then Trump should already have another option ready.
This isn't that hard.
Ok where is option number #2?
There needs to be one. That's the fight we are having right now.
There is. Option #2 is losing Speaker or worse. Jordan is listening to Trump. The other reps are not. If it escalates then the strategy on the board shifts and a new path forward is implemented. More collateral damage will likely ensue but we still march forward.
Exactly. As Q stated, this will not be clean. The best- laid plans of mice and men often go awry. Especially during war. There are optimal outcomes and choices and then there is reality.
I like the fight with Trump.
One thing the deep state likes to do.
"If you do not support our approved candidate... we will make it worse for you".
At some point. The people will have to stick to our guns no matter what.
This also shows the world. MAGA isn't some cult that will follow our leader blindly.
Divide and conquer is their primary tactic. Tearing Trumps base away from him is the cabals modus operandi. When they stop calling you a cultist is when you should be concerned.
McCarthy being an asshole is disrupting the plan
Much like the between life/death state RBG was kept in for more than a year because they could not give up her seat. When they finally had to admit she was dead, they were nice enough to share her last wishes with us. There at the end, what she wanted more than anything was for a Republican to not get her seat. That's what concerned her as she was "dying." (already gone)
As long as Trump remains unwilling to explain why he is endorsing that RINO, then I don't see any way he is going to sway anyone.
He may in fact have his reasons, but he better start communicating them, and they better be genuinely good reasons, if he truly wants to go down this road. I'm lucky enough to have a rep that is voting against McCarthy, and I'm continuing to tell her to hold the line.
Smoky backroom deals is not the way government is supposed to be. And if we wind up with Jeffries as a result, I accept the consequences. I don't believe a Uniparty speaker of the Democrat flavor will be any worse than a Uniparty speaker of the Republican flavor.
It's not like our vote has actually mattered for the last 2 years anyway. So it's either going to matter in full this time, or it won't. No half measures. Trump better start to accept that the electorate is pissed off.
What about Scalise?
I would like to know what the "bad" thing is. It's it really worse than what's already happening? The government releasing bioweapons and poisoning citizens by the millions?
Remember all the rioting in the cities, oh, wait, the "peaceful protests" that included fires, guns, attacking police officers, broken windows and grand theft? I seem to remember democrats saying that they and the pResident could stop it. So, if the swamp could stop it, that means the swamp started it. Those rampages seemed to be absolutely NOTHING to them, they lied about it constantly, if it was even mentioned, and I'm sure they could do much worse.
You have to consider that, when Trump is talking, the 'White Hats' are speaking.
He stated, "... I have told them, you’re playing a very dangerous game... You could end up with the worse situation. I don’t even want to say what it is..."
The 'White Hats' likely have McCarthy like a puppet on a string. The guy is so compromised that they control him completely. McCarthy is a scumbag... but he's a scumbag who will do as he's told.
I would like to believe that, but communication is important. We're not NPCs. We don't follow blindly.
The White Hats have to do better than this if they want us to go with McCarthy.
This is the kind of next-level anaylsis I was hoping to find on the McCarthy vote. Thank you!
Well then maybe he SHOULD say what it is. Playing smoke and mirrors with cryptic vagueries is an insult to the base.
Give me a legitimate reason why supporting another RINO is a good idea, because I have mile long list of reasons why it's more of the same failed bullshit.
Is there someway that Trump could privately read us in on all their strategy without reading in the enemy too? If the enemy knows our strategy, they can counter it. Another tactic we could take is to just trust that those on our side playing the game know what they're doing and are doing it to the best of their ability. If not, we're lost anyone. Don't trust and we lose. Trust, and we might lose, but we might win. I'll go with trust.
If WE know, the DS then knows..............
Is what happened on the 15th not enough to convince of the deep states resolve?
Why do we assume Trump is right about everything? Its our job to question even if its someone we like.
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I think Trump is supporting McCarthy to look uninvolved. He’s supporting the reasonable & responsible choice to remove his influence. This allows the Rinos to be exposed. Remember he did NOT do this while he was in office. He took big big risks and didn’t mind playing the fool. I think it’s lining up for the Patriots to take a stand and wield the actual power they have. We’ve needed a precipice and to take a demonstrative stand. Here it is. I think this could truly be the beginning we’ve been waiting for.
I would like to agree with you if Trumps warnings weren't so dire. I don't think saving DC is even in the cards. I don't think that's the plan.
Plausible. If there is going to be a successful revolt over the Speaker, it does not need to look like a Trump led effort. The DS will actually be more freaked out over a revolt that was not Trump led.
I agree with you. I've said for a long time that we never think about the kind of blackmail that someone like Trump lives with every minute of every day.
This includes monstrous death threats against not just him, not just his family, but ALL of us here in the United States.
These creatures would not hesitate to blow a suitcase nuke or a dirty bomb in a U.S. city, or throw some kind of horrible stuff in the water supply, or any other nightmare situations you can think of, if Trump and his supporters don't do what they want.
People still act like this is all done through honest means, like voting. Not even close.
Precisely. DC can not be saved and we are dealing with a ruthless enemy that is capable of anything.
You mean like releasing a virus and then mandating a poison "cure"? And stealing trillions at the same time? Fuck blackmail, let them do their worst
"Give the victory to your enemy or they won't like you and will be mean." The GOP.
Interesting that we fear them but they don't fear us. That's the problem right there.
I think many here are under the impression that saving DC or relying on DC to fix this is still possible. Trump told us quite the contrary in 2016.
Well, they are psychopaths and we are not. That's always a problem.
5D chess it is.
In chess it can be said there is a beginning, middle and end.
What seems to determine high end games are the players end game ability.
Many have been taken, one sacrificed as their secret white RINO knight makes it to the other side.
Replacing their queen with a new queen of their own might be endgame.
Few pieces are left before end game strategy begins.
The chess analogy is the best way to understand this war. Qs references to historic games where Queens were sacrificed to win should not be taken lightly.
We have to be realistic? The RINOs voted for Biden's buttfuckery bill that makes them all richer and gives that tranny Ukraine dickcheese yet more money. The border is unprotected. The Jan 6 prisoners sit in a gulag, treated worse than the psychopaths who blew up the twin towers. McCarthy refuses to budge on anything that will help us (the actual tax-paying citizens of this once great country).
Trump can say whatever he wants, but McCarthy will just hit the gas pedal on the cabal's plans to finish off what's left of this country. To vote for that is insanity. Better to force McCarthy's hand and let him show more about his true lack of character and just a what a low-life, America-hating piece of shit he truly is.
It still amazes me that people in this forum actually think we can count on DC to fix this.
And it still amazes me that people on this forum actually think that giving our enemies more power to use against us will fix this.
You should rewatch Trumps speech from 2016. We don't hold any power there to give, my friend.
So the solution is to support evil?
I don't have any power to defeat the devil. That doesn't mean I'm going to throw my support to him. Nor does it mean I will try to convince others to do the same. When you do that, you pick the wrong side. The Freedom Caucus picked the right side.
Supporting McCarthy is the wrong side, no matter how much you or anyone else wants to twist this into some 5d chess garbage. Sometimes, you have to make a stand, even knowing you're going to lose. Otherwise, you're just as bad as the ones you should be fighting against.
I don't think you and I will see eye to eye on this, so I'll leave it at that, fren. Hope when you get your way and McCrappy is the speaker, you enjoy him fucking us all sideways.
I'm just telling you what Trump told us from the start. Watch the speech again. Listen to the man. There is no fixing DC. If you think that's part of the plan you haven't been paying attention.
Good points. Some people will toss pragmatism aside for principle no matter the cost. We can go on choosing the right and getting fucked by the cabal because we think it makes Jesus smile if we want. Or…we can nut up and win this damn thing once and for all.
Many here would throw the entire war to win some small hills.
Makes perfect sense but if these people are guilty of crimes against humanity and we have undeniable evidence to that fact then it would make sense to me that we are at the precipice and the military stepping in at this point would go over in a matter of weeks. Once the evidence e is presented to the people and the military makes arrests then we could just hold the trials and let the chips fall where they may. Cannot blame Trump at this point, he “has” no power. It would appear as a military intervention. Arrest the bankers first. Then their puppets. Most of the puppets are in DC as we speak. Then go after the media. It’s dragging out too far and if “we caught them all” and “have the evidence” what else is there to do besides wait for many more people to die? Unless, wh are not in control?
let the chips fall where they may.
That could include nukes flying and ultimately losing the war. No point in pulling the trigger early against an enemy that can and will go scorched earth when we can continue down this path and assure victory. That and people are assuming saving DC in it's current state is part of the plan...
In that case, let’s just wait until the antichrist orders you to take the mark. Then we’ll be in a position to take down the swamp. Changing government will not stop the BANKERS from getting what they want. Go arrest the bankers and pray that God will provide just as he did everytime he has allowed America to advance in the past. Why procrastinate the inevitable?
The federal government locking up and collapsing under it's own weight and corruption would stop the bankers. What kills DC kills the Fed. Replacing DC is the only way forward. All of these moves will make more sense when people give up on the notion of fixing DC.
No taxation without proper representation. Where they vote according to their constituents. Stop paying taxes and show the people that the government dosnt need money to print money and spend money we don’t have. We all should stop paying taxes for 1 quarter. That’s all it would take.
Expand your thinking. “We have it all” may not mean “We have it all the moment you read the words ‘We have it all.’” If future proves past then it might make sense to think of Q as a voice from the future. In that future we might have it all. In that future the Patriots might be in control. In that future Donald Trump may have “caught the swamp” (“I caught the swamp. I caught them all”), but that doesn’t mean we’re experiencing that reality just yet. But we have the assurance that nothing can stop those things from coming, so why stress about it whilst we wait for their realization? Is faith stress? Is it worry? Is it frustration? This voice from the future told us to enjoy this show, not stress about it. That should help us release the need to form unnecessarily rigid opinions about matters such as this. Maybe it seems like Jordan would make a better Speaker, but if it’s just not in the cards and nothing can stop Q’s future from coming where’s the benefit in getting worked up over it? How angry do you get in action movies when the bad guys seem to gain the upper hand but you know there’s still 20 minutes left for the good guys to pull off the impossible?
Trump backed turtle head and apologized for it
What's 2 more years of bullshit when you've been getting screwed for 50. Fuck McCarthy.
Biden is incompetent to be President.
Kamala's parents were citizens of India and Jamaica at the time of her birth, and so she fails the natural born citizen test.
Speaker of the house is next in line to be President, hence all the fighting now over who gets to be Speaker.
I think Trump wants McCarthy to be given a second chance to do the right thing or expose himself over the next 2 years so he does not have him as Speaker in 2025 when he returns as POTUS. Trump is always a man of second chances - I think it is a failing of his.
Yes, whatever Trump says to do, we should do.
Trump also touts the jab and supported mitch. If the white hats need mccarthy for the plan to work they have lost. And if they have lost we may as well send this into overdrive and really wake up the masses. A rino is no different than a dem. It doesnt makr any difference if mccarthy is speaker or pelosi is speaker. They olay for tge same team. If rinos go with the dems it will only expose them more.
We are the people, if we unite they cannot stop us.
POTUS's endorsing of McCarthy & McConnell could be for looks, as well. How can we expect our few principled MAGAs in congress to fold like cheap suits?
Indeed, it could be for optics but the foreboding warning makes me think it may be something more.
I want Biggs or Scalise.
After a certain point, my reaction to "trust the Plan" is "What Plan?" I have learned in my life of leadership that trust must first be extended, in order to be summoned.
I think we are all aware that our most dangerous enemy are the RINOs. It is necessary to get the GOP house in order and unified around MAGA. Then we can go head to head with the Democrats, without traitors cutting our hamstrings from behind.
Trump told you in 2016 what the plan was. Since then, there has been a mountain of evidence that a plan is indeed being followed. If you are having trouble seeing there is a plan, don't take this the wrong way man, but you haven't been paying attention. You've been on this forum for two years and you don't see the machinations of a plan?! How is that possible?
It's more like being in Plato's cave. Occasionally, shadows move across the wall. There is so much hype and Rorschach blot interpretation among the enthusiasts, that any sense of reality is gone. If there is a good reason to install McCarthy as Speaker, I would be glad to hear it. But in the absence of a good reason---there is no good reason. And if we are supposed to "act," it cannot be on blind faith, contrary to reason.
I've seen two years of people convincing themselves there are machinations of a plan. I am scientifically trained in objectivity, so I am resistant to delusions and wishful thinking.
If you're a man of science then you can't honestly say there isn't a plan. It's been proven mathematically. It is simply impossible that Q and the hundreds of occurrences are mere coincidence. It's mathematically impossible. You need to study all the proofs. Or don't but if you don't you can't make such a claim when you haven't even looked at the evidence because it can not be refuted at this point.
You make me laugh. So many people on this board prate about "mathematically impossible" who cannot, to save their lives, produce a calculation to substantiate this. What is worse is the arcane interpretation of Rorschach blots, extracting meaning from them that is 95% imagination. Not hard to "verify" the existence of a plan, when it is mostly a creature of surmise.
I spent my career in engineering programs. You want to see a plan? Look at what goes into an airplane development project. Lots and lots of detail, and close tracking of results. Plus, it succeeds only by it being known to the key personnel. So, I have to conclude that anons are not key personnel, because they are not being clued-in to the plan.
I notice peculiar events and transitions that I am willing to ascribe to "a plan," but unless there is more to it than that, there is no knowledge of what the plan IS. It was more convincing when Q was posting to keep us attuned to the drift of the plan, but that has been discontinued. Perhaps for better Operational Security. But the whole point of secrecy is to create the background of nothing happening, so you can't have that and still say the plan is obvious. Long ago, "the plan" was to overturn the Cabal government with military means. Now, people turn themselves into pretzels trying to square the lack of this happening with a belief in "devolution."
I prefer to wait and see. Right now, I am hopeful over the seeming fact that McCarthy continues to have deteriorating support. Which means he is political roadkill. Couldn't happen to a more deserving guy.
Four paragraphs to tell me you haven't studied the proofs. You're the engineer. Actually study the proofs and then do the calculations or don't but don't go on these rants about there being no plan when you haven't even looked at the proofs.
The only "proofs" I saw were proofs that Q was traveling with Trump. A travelogue is not a plan.
Look, what is the plan? Can you express it in a few sentences? A plan for what? You can't begin to tell whether a plan is being followed unless you can compare results to its objectives. And you are the same: lots of lordly talkdown, but you can't seem to condense the plan at all. Nobody can tell if devolution is a thing or not, and that would be a huge element if it were true.
If you don't like the number of paragraphs, take out the line spaces.
So you have absolutely no idea what the proofs are. Meaning you haven't studied them, at all. Which explains why you don't know the plan. If Q was traveling with Trump that takes beyond an internet troll doesn't? That didn't inspire you to dive deeper? Q multiple times linked the speech by Trump in 2016 telling us the plan. If you're asking for detailed outlining's of a plan above top secret then you also prove you haven't even read the drops. It's always the same with the doomers in this forum.
You think you've got it all figured out but every single time, not one of you have actually read the drops or proofs. The same people that 'wouldn't tell you the plan' probably told you the same thing I'm telling you now. Study. You're not going to listen to us. Learn like we did because you've been here two years and you still haven't learned from the thousands of post discussing the plan and that speech, you're never going to put it together until you come to the truth yourself.
We have shit either way. Rather the left gets blamed for the shit. Ffs leave the old ball sack herself there.
People are waking up to the vaxx and they feel Trump pushed it at warp speed. That’s what I’m hearing and the MAGA people aren’t sycophants. It’s a bit of a pickle.
I did a piece explaining why Trump had no choice to initiate Op Warp Speed. He stopped a dark age with it. You can dig through my history and find it in my post. It helps make sense of things.