I find this event far more disturbing than UFOs and balloons. From the article I read, chickens died within minutes of the explosion from the toxic wind. People WILL start dying from this over time.
It's almost like someone's trying anything to kill off large groups of people and animals. I say that for the people who haven't been paying attention, of course. Nothing can stop what's coming, but I'm starting to wonder how many of us will be around to see it.
I will say after tracking and watching seismic activity for years, I have never seen anything like the powerful unzipping in Turkey. There are only two options...it was either intentional by man or it is biblical. Either way things are seriously moving.
They're along the same latitude gridline as San Francisco, where Tesla's earthquake machine caused seismic activity. Is it possible that energy lines were manipulated in the process?
you are correct. I've stopped warning people and talking about stuff. I have just focused on stocking up on canned goods and eggs ( I have a shit ton lol ), weapons and ammo.
"This method is known as “water glassing” eggs. Preserving eggs in this fashion allows farm-fresh eggs to be preserved whole in their rawest form, shell and all. Water glassing eggs allows the eggs to be consumed as if they were collected that same day. Preserving eggs utilizing the water glassing method allows farm-fresh eggs to remain fresh between one year to 18 months."
My friend had up to 60 at one time. Gave many to the local church for others. Says 'longhorn' breed were good layers. Fed them turkey feed as it was higher in protein and they laid more eggs.
The disposition products were phosgene and hydrogen chloride.
Phosgene (COCl2) is on Schedule 3 of the Chemical Weapons Convention and was used in World War I as a poison gas weapon. Toxic effects can result from concentrations that cannot be detected by smell. It is DENSER THAN AIR and will therefore concentrate near the ground, which will explain the vulnerability of animals that are close to the ground, like foxes or chickens. The main effect is pulmonary edema. A lethal dose can manifest in 2-3 days.
Hydrogen chloride (HCl) is slightly heavier than air and will combine with water to form hydrochloric acid (stomach acid). This will happen if inhaled into the lungs.
I am astounded and appalled that the officials either were not aware of what they were doing or did not fully inform the public. (It will be an interesting question if the "homeless" were also affected like the animals, considering they tend to sleep close to the ground.)
Well what can those people do to lessen the lethal effect if they live under that cloud....And there were days that the government caused the Los Angeles clouds to resemble the cotton bubble look in the sky.
Surrounding areas should have been evacuated for a certain period of time (with an abundance of caution)
What these people can do is go visit family or a hotel for a bit of an extended vacation if they're able, and if they have to commute to the area, make arrangements for that.
Due to the nature of what was there, the lower to the ground you are the more susceptible, think carbon monoxide: You could be totally safe on your bed and drop off and suddenly die without knowing it.
I am unsure if there are consumer products for testing for what was released, but I would be looking for them / asking people I knew about them that work in industries where these sort of chemicals and gases were used.
Those gases are heavier than air. The people are either in the cloud or walking around with the cloud at their ankles. Their cats and dogs are in the cloud. With any luck, the gases should have dissipated, but not a good idea to sleep on the rug. I have to wonder if the source chemical, vinyl chloride, would have been less dangerous.
Edit: I went and checked. Vinyl chloride might be worse. No good outcome.
With luck, the stuff will abate, dilute, and degrade in a short while. As long as symptoms are not noticed, things will be okay going forward. My concern is that they failed to warn the farmers that their animals would be more vulnerable, due to the ground-hugging nature of the gases. God only knows what it did to the population of earthworms.
It was an accident. You don't have any basis for thinking otherwise. Just because evil Martians could have derailed the train doesn't mean they did. There are about 11,000 rail accidents each year, from small to large. The fatalities range from 700 to 900 per year. You really need to abandon this "there are no accidents" superstition. Life is full of accidents. We are lucky there aren't more.
This sounds like a “the sky is blue” statement. Of course shit is gunna die, it’s toxic chemicals being released from that thing. It should be a bigger story overall; basically a mini Chernobyl
Chernobyl wasn't toxic. It was radioactive particles shot out in every direction, contaminating everything in a massive radius.
Toxicity can be prevented, in many cases filtered out and diluted in the air to harmless PPB. It can also be more readily cleaned up because of that.
There's little that can be done to combat the radioactive mess. Expensive specialized equipment, burying and time -- ignoring the giant creepy mass of radiation that still exists there.
Essentially, you can responsibly evacuate and clean up toxic chemicals and aside from water supplies likely be okay.
The more accurate thing, if this is really the cause (blah blah causality does not blah blah corroboration blah) is that it is once again being covered up by corruption, and that is the main parallel to Chernobyl.
If I were an actual investigative reporter, I would have been swarming this area endlessly from the moment it happened because this was not some every day accidental occurrence.
TL;DR: Evacuation should have happened until it was safe, which shouldn't take that long if they got on top of it to stop it at the source. I'm not clear on if they evacuated as I knew this happened but hadn't tracked, but the evacuation should have lasted longer.
The article mentioned "phosgene gas" as a by-product of burning the rail car tanks contents. Phosgene is extremely poisonous and was used as a chemical weapon during World War I, where it was responsible for 85,000 deaths. It is a highly potent pulmonary irritant and quickly filled enemy trenches due to it being a heavy gas.
So, the RR & Warrent Buffet/Berkshire Hathaway & the official that gave the burn it order have authorized a chemical attack.
I will post it again. We know someone from railroad also. I have to be careful of what is said.
My husband's son lives there and was evacuated. Norfolk Southern had a meeting there last night. They are really screwing with these people. The people are afraid they have no idea how safe it is.
They knew the bearing box on the axle, called a hot box, was on fire 30 miles before this town. The railroad told them to keep going don't stop. We know this for fact.
They have lawyers and the people of the town will nor let it go. His son is like a dog with a bone.
I dont think anyone here is saying this is fake GG. We know its real. I think what people are alluding to when they say FF is that it was done with intent and for an evil purpose. Just like the 9/11 FF or the Las Vegas FF. We know people died. When we say FF we are questioning the narrative surrounding the events.
No it wasn't. It was total negligence on the railroad. I saw the picture of the axle it was given to lawyers. I wish I could post it. The person who released it could lose his job. Trust me I am the first to believe in false flags. This isn't one.
The axle, what they call the hot box, was on fire 30 miles outside of East Palestine. They railroad told them do not stop keep going. This is standard procedure direct from the horses mouth.
The axle, what they call the hot box, was on fire 30 miles outside of East Palestine. The railroad told them do not stop keep going. This is standard procedure direct from the horses mouth.
I have had a very uneasy feeling on this one for some days now. It's a completely insane time and when the derailment occurred I guess the general public just overlooked it or was made to overlook it. This is very, very serious.
The reporter was arrested, we would have to assume wasn't covering the event the way some people wanted him to. Seems to me that more clampdowns are happening and threats of arrest to anyone filming/reporting.
Here's the thing, I am near this within a few hours, and in the days after it was reported locally as "Dangerous chemicals completely cleared now and disposed of. Nothing to worry about."
And so now, it is like that story never was given.
My husband's son lives there and was evacuated. Norfolk Southern had a meeting there last night. They are really screwing with these people. The people are afraid they have no idea how safe it is.
They knew the bearing box on the axle, called a hot box, was on fire 30 miles before this town. The railroad told them to keep going don't stop. We know this for fact.
They have lawyers and the people of the town will nor let it go. His son is like a dog with a bone.
This area of rail is owned by Vanguard and JP Morgan. Since they are major advertisers, of course the media is going to ignore and downplay this event.
Please I ask you refrain from saying this is a part of the black hat plans. I will repeat what I said.
My husband's son lives there and was evacuated. Norfolk Southern had a meeting there last night. They are really screwing with these people. The people are afraid they have no idea how safe it is.
They knew the bearing box on the axle, called a hot box, was on fire 30 miles before this town. The railroad told them to keep going don't stop. We know this for fact.
My husband's son lives there and was evacuated. Norfolk Southern had a meeting there last night. They are really screwing with these people. The people are afraid they have no idea how safe it is.
They knew the bearing box on the axle, called a hot box, was on fire 30 miles before this town. The railroad told them to keep going don't stop. We know this for fact.
I would say at minimum this can classify as an Accountability issue that needs to raise awareness.. Ohio has a bad track record(no pun intended) of hazardous material train derailments.
See Miamisburg 1986 White Phosphorus Derailment
I find this event far more disturbing than UFOs and balloons. From the article I read, chickens died within minutes of the explosion from the toxic wind. People WILL start dying from this over time.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1624051231554510848.html
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FonazRGaYAENvGd.jpg
It's almost like someone's trying anything to kill off large groups of people and animals. I say that for the people who haven't been paying attention, of course. Nothing can stop what's coming, but I'm starting to wonder how many of us will be around to see it.
Right? Seems like the Turkey earthquake may have been intentional.
I will say after tracking and watching seismic activity for years, I have never seen anything like the powerful unzipping in Turkey. There are only two options...it was either intentional by man or it is biblical. Either way things are seriously moving.
Well, God is ultimately in charge, so there's that.
They're along the same latitude gridline as San Francisco, where Tesla's earthquake machine caused seismic activity. Is it possible that energy lines were manipulated in the process?
True. It’s been a good run helping wake up the people. Thanks for nothing Q (jk)
you are correct. I've stopped warning people and talking about stuff. I have just focused on stocking up on canned goods and eggs ( I have a shit ton lol ), weapons and ammo.
If you are able to get fresh unpasteurized eggs, check out water glossing. Can store eggs for up to a year.
Thank you for this info!! I'm starting TODAY.
"This method is known as “water glassing” eggs. Preserving eggs in this fashion allows farm-fresh eggs to be preserved whole in their rawest form, shell and all. Water glassing eggs allows the eggs to be consumed as if they were collected that same day. Preserving eggs utilizing the water glassing method allows farm-fresh eggs to remain fresh between one year to 18 months."
https://backyardpoultry.iamcountryside.com/eggs-meat/water-glassing-eggs-for-long-term-storage/
thank you for this
How many chickens and how much do they yield?
My friend had up to 60 at one time. Gave many to the local church for others. Says 'longhorn' breed were good layers. Fed them turkey feed as it was higher in protein and they laid more eggs.
I though that chickens ate insects and worms, which are naturally high in protein. Why feed them processed stuff? You don't know what's in it.
A lot of anons feel this way. Ask an old friend if he's prepared, He said, "For what?" Haven't spoken since.
The sky is falling!
I believe the white hats are allowing as many to die as possible before showing "LOOK, THE PRECIPICE, ARE YOU ON IT YET?"
Ah, the telltale behavior of noble humans, to let everyone die.
Nothing to do with white hats.
The disposition products were phosgene and hydrogen chloride.
Phosgene (COCl2) is on Schedule 3 of the Chemical Weapons Convention and was used in World War I as a poison gas weapon. Toxic effects can result from concentrations that cannot be detected by smell. It is DENSER THAN AIR and will therefore concentrate near the ground, which will explain the vulnerability of animals that are close to the ground, like foxes or chickens. The main effect is pulmonary edema. A lethal dose can manifest in 2-3 days.
Hydrogen chloride (HCl) is slightly heavier than air and will combine with water to form hydrochloric acid (stomach acid). This will happen if inhaled into the lungs.
I am astounded and appalled that the officials either were not aware of what they were doing or did not fully inform the public. (It will be an interesting question if the "homeless" were also affected like the animals, considering they tend to sleep close to the ground.)
Well what can those people do to lessen the lethal effect if they live under that cloud....And there were days that the government caused the Los Angeles clouds to resemble the cotton bubble look in the sky.
Surrounding areas should have been evacuated for a certain period of time (with an abundance of caution)
What these people can do is go visit family or a hotel for a bit of an extended vacation if they're able, and if they have to commute to the area, make arrangements for that.
Due to the nature of what was there, the lower to the ground you are the more susceptible, think carbon monoxide: You could be totally safe on your bed and drop off and suddenly die without knowing it.
I am unsure if there are consumer products for testing for what was released, but I would be looking for them / asking people I knew about them that work in industries where these sort of chemicals and gases were used.
My husband's son lived .8 miles from epi center. He was not evacuated until 2 days later.
It is a shit show.
I think such advice should be given to the people. Their minds are probably so filled with chemicals they cant think for themselves. Thx
Those gases are heavier than air. The people are either in the cloud or walking around with the cloud at their ankles. Their cats and dogs are in the cloud. With any luck, the gases should have dissipated, but not a good idea to sleep on the rug. I have to wonder if the source chemical, vinyl chloride, would have been less dangerous.
Edit: I went and checked. Vinyl chloride might be worse. No good outcome.
Well hopefully people posted instructions for those residents on how to survive it long term
With luck, the stuff will abate, dilute, and degrade in a short while. As long as symptoms are not noticed, things will be okay going forward. My concern is that they failed to warn the farmers that their animals would be more vulnerable, due to the ground-hugging nature of the gases. God only knows what it did to the population of earthworms.
Well that is mostly good news.
Polyvinyl chloride is known as PVC
It's literally one of the safest chemicals on earth.
PVC is a polymer of vinyl chloride. Vinyl chloride itself is very toxic. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinyl_chloride
PVC is a solid... long chains of vinyl. Not like vinyl chloride which is only two carbons long and very light for the non chemists
So is it heavy for chemists? (Askin' for a fren.)
;)
Not if it is vinyl chloride monomer (what you start with to make PVC). It is a deadly poison. Don't take my word for it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinyl_chloride
It was an accident. You don't have any basis for thinking otherwise. Just because evil Martians could have derailed the train doesn't mean they did. There are about 11,000 rail accidents each year, from small to large. The fatalities range from 700 to 900 per year. You really need to abandon this "there are no accidents" superstition. Life is full of accidents. We are lucky there aren't more.
This sounds like a “the sky is blue” statement. Of course shit is gunna die, it’s toxic chemicals being released from that thing. It should be a bigger story overall; basically a mini Chernobyl
Chernobyl wasn't toxic. It was radioactive particles shot out in every direction, contaminating everything in a massive radius.
Toxicity can be prevented, in many cases filtered out and diluted in the air to harmless PPB. It can also be more readily cleaned up because of that.
There's little that can be done to combat the radioactive mess. Expensive specialized equipment, burying and time -- ignoring the giant creepy mass of radiation that still exists there.
Essentially, you can responsibly evacuate and clean up toxic chemicals and aside from water supplies likely be okay.
The more accurate thing, if this is really the cause (blah blah causality does not blah blah corroboration blah) is that it is once again being covered up by corruption, and that is the main parallel to Chernobyl.
If I were an actual investigative reporter, I would have been swarming this area endlessly from the moment it happened because this was not some every day accidental occurrence.
TL;DR: Evacuation should have happened until it was safe, which shouldn't take that long if they got on top of it to stop it at the source. I'm not clear on if they evacuated as I knew this happened but hadn't tracked, but the evacuation should have lasted longer.
Exactly how many people died, or even got cancer, in Chernobyl, aside from the firefighters who were in close proximity to the active core?
This is more like Bhopal India and Union Carbide from 1984.
The article mentioned "phosgene gas" as a by-product of burning the rail car tanks contents. Phosgene is extremely poisonous and was used as a chemical weapon during World War I, where it was responsible for 85,000 deaths. It is a highly potent pulmonary irritant and quickly filled enemy trenches due to it being a heavy gas. So, the RR & Warrent Buffet/Berkshire Hathaway & the official that gave the burn it order have authorized a chemical attack.
There must be a chicken/egg farm or meat rendering plant nearby the deepstate wants to sabotage.
Interesting take and with a the "accidents" that have been happening with our food, that is something that certainly makes you go "hmm"
No there isn't and nothing to do with black hats.
How can a definitive statement like this be made?
Ready comments.
I will post it again. We know someone from railroad also. I have to be careful of what is said.
My husband's son lives there and was evacuated. Norfolk Southern had a meeting there last night. They are really screwing with these people. The people are afraid they have no idea how safe it is.
They knew the bearing box on the axle, called a hot box, was on fire 30 miles before this town. The railroad told them to keep going don't stop. We know this for fact.
They have lawyers and the people of the town will nor let it go. His son is like a dog with a bone.
It is a shit show.
I dont think anyone here is saying this is fake GG. We know its real. I think what people are alluding to when they say FF is that it was done with intent and for an evil purpose. Just like the 9/11 FF or the Las Vegas FF. We know people died. When we say FF we are questioning the narrative surrounding the events.
No it wasn't. It was total negligence on the railroad. I saw the picture of the axle it was given to lawyers. I wish I could post it. The person who released it could lose his job. Trust me I am the first to believe in false flags. This isn't one.
The axle, what they call the hot box, was on fire 30 miles outside of East Palestine. They railroad told them do not stop keep going. This is standard procedure direct from the horses mouth.
That still doesnt mean that negligence wasnt intentional. Even set up to happen.
OMG.
Did you read what I wrote?
The axle, what they call the hot box, was on fire 30 miles outside of East Palestine. The railroad told them do not stop keep going. This is standard procedure direct from the horses mouth.
Isn't it supposed to mean something when the canary dies?
Toxins, and/or low oxygen levels in a mine.
I thought that it was natural gas which is odorless.
H2S us odorless
Natural gas is given a rotten egg smell when it's captured
Yup.
Lol yeah - get out NOW
I have had a very uneasy feeling on this one for some days now. It's a completely insane time and when the derailment occurred I guess the general public just overlooked it or was made to overlook it. This is very, very serious. The reporter was arrested, we would have to assume wasn't covering the event the way some people wanted him to. Seems to me that more clampdowns are happening and threats of arrest to anyone filming/reporting. Here's the thing, I am near this within a few hours, and in the days after it was reported locally as "Dangerous chemicals completely cleared now and disposed of. Nothing to worry about." And so now, it is like that story never was given.
My husband's son lives there and was evacuated. Norfolk Southern had a meeting there last night. They are really screwing with these people. The people are afraid they have no idea how safe it is.
They knew the bearing box on the axle, called a hot box, was on fire 30 miles before this town. The railroad told them to keep going don't stop. We know this for fact.
They have lawyers and the people of the town will nor let it go. His son is like a dog with a bone.
It is a shit show.
Remember Bhopal India, Union Carbide? Wiped out almost 4,000 in less than a day, deadly gas.
Please make sure you take some activated charcoal if you live there. Give them to your animals also.
I'm about 8 air miles away from the site. Very concerned for these people.
Please make sure you take some activated charcoal.You can get it in pill forms.
I actually have the pills in my cabinet. Took them for a GI issue I had. Thanks for the tip!
You are welcome!
I would add Collodial silver to the water for animals.
I grew up not too far from you then. Praying for all of you there. Get your water tested, too.
This is disturbing…
“Out of nowhere, he just started coughing really hard, just shut down, and he had liquid diarrhea and just went very fast,” Holzer said.
What other kind of diarrhea is there?
Don't answer that
I am so sorry.
ThanQ
Why hasn't Russia been blamed yet?
The evacuation is over, they are letting people go back to their homes.
If deep state players couldn't get the jab forced on everyone, they wouldn't be too sad if people died from the radiation instead.
It is not safe. My husband's son lives there. See my other comments.
Funny I live in Se Ohio and this is the first I have heard of this, WTF E, Palestine is not that far, not good. Thanks
Everything within close proximity of that cloud will die from cancer in 2yrs or less. Just watch.
"In the village of East Palestine"
Where Jesus was born
https://twitter.com/FalconryFinance/status/1624087503786631168 From the 10th. Good videos of poison. Some foul mouthed language.
This area of rail is owned by Vanguard and JP Morgan. Since they are major advertisers, of course the media is going to ignore and downplay this event.
Advertisers control your information.
TRUTH.
Please I ask you refrain from saying this is a part of the black hat plans. I will repeat what I said.
My husband's son lives there and was evacuated. Norfolk Southern had a meeting there last night. They are really screwing with these people. The people are afraid they have no idea how safe it is.
They knew the bearing box on the axle, called a hot box, was on fire 30 miles before this town. The railroad told them to keep going don't stop. We know this for fact.
It is a shit show.
My husband's son lives there and was evacuated. Norfolk Southern had a meeting there last night. They are really screwing with these people. The people are afraid they have no idea how safe it is.
They knew the bearing box on the axle, called a hot box, was on fire 30 miles before this town. The railroad told them to keep going don't stop. We know this for fact.
It is a shit show.
I would say at minimum this can classify as an Accountability issue that needs to raise awareness.. Ohio has a bad track record(no pun intended) of hazardous material train derailments. See Miamisburg 1986 White Phosphorus Derailment
https://www.wdtn.com/news/local-news/timeline-1986-fiery-train-derailment-in-miamisburg/
It has nothing to do with false flags. Read my comments.
This is serious. Thus has nothing to to with black hats irr scare tactics.
Please stop thus narrative.